AB GENERAL 23 RE WHY ZHID ABORTIONISTS KILL BABIES FOR MILLION
From: Sailor57 (sailor572001@no-spam)
Subject: Re: Why ZHID Abortionists Kill Babies-FOR MILLION$!!
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 22:19:04 -0600


Notice that Morgentaler is not apologising for making MILLIONS from killing babies.
Could it be that it is almost wholly non-Jew babies he and his ilk are killing?

On 22 Feb 2003 21:55:08 -0000, Morgentaler$$ <million$$@no-spam>
wrote:

>Posted by: Boris Dynin = NAMBLA executive &
>Henry<hermcam@no-spam>
>CALL late nights to discuss: (408) 773-0984
>Email me: boris@no-spam , or even >VISIT me at:
>55 Chumasero Drive, Daly City, San Francisco 94132
>
>Kenneth McVay,SOBC, convicted of child molesting >and car theft in California and Oregon, the >well-known fag in Canada,Fag McVay of Vancouver,
>also a convicted car thief and all round molester,
>and still unemployed gas pump boy, mastermind of >the Canadian branch of NAMBLA, wants all to know >about all his fellow criminals and perverts.
>Here is the latest.......
>
>From: "kenmcvay@no-spam"
>Subject: JEW GETS MILLIONS KILLING BABIES!!!
>Newsgroups: alt.abortion >
>From: Joe Kamenar <joelkamenar@no-spam>
>Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian.romancatholic,
>soc.culture.usa,soc.culture.canada,alt.abortion >Subject: --> Abortion Is Murder >Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 16:06:41 -0500
>
>If an aborted baby has a heartbeat and functioning >organs (like a brain), then to take its life is murder.
>This is not CHOICE.
>People who support unlimited abortions and partial >birth abortions should be banned from society.
>How can anyone argue otherwise?
>
>
>From: bmccandlss@no-spam (BMcCandlss)
>Newsgroups: alt.abortion >Subject: Re: MILLIONS FROM KILLING BABIES!!!
>>Date: Sun, 21 November 1999 02:06 PM EST >>On 21 Nov 1999 18:35:34 GMT, bmccandlss@no-spam >>(BMcCandlss) wrote:
>>> apifar@no-spam (Craig Chilton) wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 21 Nov 1999 12:17:54 -0500 (EST),
>>>> "boris@no-spam" <anonymous@no-spam> wrote:
>
>>> Sorry dude, the American Revolution was founded on the >>> principle that all are created with the RIGHT to LIFE,
>>> so your "Benediction" is given with foot in mouth.
>
>Keep dreaming.
>Our founding documents were based on principles of >English law, which DID ascribe these rights to the unborn;
>it's cited right in Roe v. Wade.
>
>Likewise, our founding documents state that >"all Men are created equal, that they are >endowed by their creator with the right to life..."
>
>Note it says CREATED, not BORN.
>NO "Men" were EVER born; only little babies are BORN.
>Clearly this "creation" refers to something other than birth.
>
>Likewise, "Men" are not "created," we >don't pop into existence fully formed.
>
>Simply put, abortion was tolerated only due to primitive >ob/gyn practices of the day, nothing more-- your argument,
>being based on them, dies with them.
>
>And yes, the unborn DO have intrinsic value in terms >of their promise of a future as adults, just like infants >do, which is why they are protected by law, as opposed to >being shipped to the pound to be gassed with the cats >and dogs which, although equally intelligent now, will >NEVER reach adult human intellect.
>
>Maybe the unborn had no value BEFORE conception,
>but by the time they're big enough to be aborted that's >no longer the case; the die is cast, so those cast >must not die.
>
>***VERY VALID POINTS OPPOSING >***THE MURDERING ABORTIONISTS!!!
>
>From: "Mark" <mark1w@no-spam>
>Newsgroups: edm.general,can.general >Subject: Re: MORGENTALER MAKES $17 MILLIONS KILLING BABIES!!!
>Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1999 10:36:57 -0700
>
>Melanie Piper wrote in message <3831CB3F.E0753FBC@no-spam>...
>>boris.spetznatz@no-spam wrote:
>>> From: bk469@no-spam (John Lauzon)
>>> Subject: MORGENTALER: THE $17 MILLION/YEAR ABORTION MAN >
>Man alive just did a show on Morgentaler. I was amazed >that he survived both Auschwitz and Dachau and yet still >has such a callous view of life. His humanist views developed >before WWII by the influence of his humanist father.
>
>I've been doing some reading on humanism lately. All of the >worst people this century has seen were humanists. Hitler,
>Stalin, Mao, and Pol Pot were all humanists. So it isn't >surprising to me that Morgantaller, who signed the Humanist >Manifesto II, would be just as willing to kill as they were.
>
>On an aside, he was also very willing to cheat on his wife,
>and did so constantly.
>
>>> abortionist Henry Morgentaler, one can >>> ascertain that Morgentaler makes at least $17,083,764
>>> per year >
>>Do you want your reader to be jealous of his income? How is >>his income relevant to whether or not his beliefs or activities >>should/should not be supported?
>
>I've heard coimments from reformed abortionists that they >did it for the incredible amount of money they make.
>Morgantaler has personally performed 75,000 abortions,
>at the going rate of about $600, that amounts to $45,000,000!!
>
>>> from his business of killing unborn babies.
>
>>Your choice of word for what he does. Sure wouldn't be mine.
>
>I have yet to hear a pregnant woman refer to her unborn baby >as a featus, or a lump of flesh. "Oh, feel my tummy dear,
>our lump of flesh is really kicking".
>
>
>>> A province by province breakdown of abortion >>> provision is provided by CARAL at >>> http://www.caral.ca/situation1.html .
>
>>> The site lists the number of abortions performed per >>> week at the Morgentaler abortuaries.
>
>>"abortuaries"--again a choice of words designed to inflame >>and influence; a less-biased choice of words would be what >>the facilities are actually termed within the conventional >>medical and health-care "establishment": clinics.
>
>ROTFL. You call the guy an anti-semite and then you have the >nerve to talk about inflamatory language. A mill is exactly >what they are, get them in and out as fast as they can.
>132,000 abortions were performed in 1996, that's one out >of every five pregnancies.
>
>>Ah, what the hell. I support your right to your opinions, but >>I just couldn't resist. I was taught to "read critically" in >>about Grade Nine and sometimes the "button-pushers" just jump >>out at me.
>
>Reading critically isn't worth much if you only read propaganda.
>
>Markw >
>
>From: bk469@no-spam (John Lauzon)
>Subject: MORGENTALER: THE $17 MILLION/YEAR ABORTION MAN >
>MORGENTALER: THE $17 MILLION/YEAR ABORTION MAN >
>OTTAWA, Nov 10 (LSN.ca) - From statistics and figures >published on the website of the Canadian Abortion Rights >Action League (CARAL) and the website of notorious >Canadian Jewish abortionist Henry Morgentaler, one can >ascertain that Morgentaler makes at least $17,083,764
>per year from his business of killing unborn babies.
>
>Health researcher Isabelle Begin who discovered the >information informed LifeSite News that Morgentaler >owns and operates 8 clinics in 7 provinces in Canada.
>
>Adding the numbers of abortions performed in the >Morgentaler clinics (save for the Edmonton clinic figures,
>which are unavailable) and multiplying by the average >cost of these abortions (as compiled from information >on Morgentaler's website) one can conclude that >destroying pre-born humans makes a substantial >contribution to Morgentaler's comfortable livelihood.
>The calculation goes like this:
>Average yearly revenue: $607.25/abortion x 28,133
>+ (no info for Edmonton) = $17,083,764
>minimum yearly gross revenue.
>
>A province by province breakdown of abortion >provision is provided by CARAL at http://www.caral.ca/situation1.html >
>
>I am together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
>We like young children, so that we can train them our way.
>I like late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
>Christian Identity, PAMYAT, HAMAS or Aryan Nations,etc.
>
>CALL late nights best, or even VISIT me:
>Donald Ray Ellis >aka Pat Blakely/RevWhite/Mike Kalvatis/Rob Stewart ET AL >108 E. Victory Street >Star City, Arkansas 71667
>Tel: (870) 628-1437
>Email: voiceofreason@no-spam >
>Arkansas Criminal Details:
>
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>Docket number 20 1988 18
>DOB Jul 7 1955
>Disp type Felony >File type Felony >
>Name ELLIS,DONALD R.
>Docket number 06 1988 21
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>
>My associate in Canada who is like me, is:
>Dr Laurence B. Shiff (Nazihunter)
>327 Cortleigh Boulevard >Toronto, Ontario M5N 1R2 CA >Tel: 416-785-4574.
>
>alternate >
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>(FAX) 416-789-5691
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>
>Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!
>
>"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth >is a revolutionary act."
>(George Orwell)
>
>David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'
>
>"All truth passes through three stages.
>First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
>and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
>(Arthur Schopenhauer)
>
>"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
>but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak >falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if >they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used >against them -- except force." -- John Bryant >
>"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an >acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer >and impossible to ignore."
>--John Bryant >
>
>If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>then visit www.freedomsite.org >
>
>Posted courtesy of : Paul Kneisel, who likes late >night discussions, even from Christian Identity,
>Pamyat, Aryan Nations, Stormfront, HAMAS, etc.
>I am together with McVay and L.Schiff,
>regional managers for NAMBLA.
>We like young children, so that we can train them our way.
>
>CALL, best late nights (718)390-8692
>or even VISIT me:
>Outerbridge, Peter >54 Wall St,
>Staten Island, NY 10301-1869
>
>My business contact is:
>Outerbridge, Peter >tallpaul@no-spam >NAMBLA.org >200 East Tenth Street #603
>New York,, NY 10003
>(212)-568-6690
>
>Posted by: Boris Dynin = NAMBLA executive &
>Henry<hermcam@no-spam> who like >late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
>Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
>
>CALL late nights to discuss: (408) 773-0984
>Email me: boris@no-spam , or even >VISIT me at:
>55 Chumasero Drive, Daly City, San Francisco 94132
>
>Ken McVay invites callers to his homosexuals escorts office:
>1-250-616-9431
>Or, VISIT at:
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>For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the website for JEW-WATCH:
>http://www.jewwatch.com >
>Or, other useful websites include:
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>
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From: myhome_is@no-spam
Subject: Re: Why ZHID Abortionists Kill Babies-FOR MILLION$!!
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 12:35:59 -0500

X-No-Archive: Yes On Wed, 25 Jun 2003 11:34:14 -0400, John Lauzon <bk469@no-spam> wrote:

>Sailor57 wrote:
>> >> Notice that Morgentaler is not apologising for making MILLIONS >> from killing babies.
>
>...he believes he is killing a life, but it is only a 'piece of tissue'.
>
>
>> Could it be that it is almost wholly non-Jew babies he and his ilk are >> killing?
>
>...I heard something similar years ago, that he won't abort >Jewish children.
>

I'd like to know how he's get away with that now that the government is going to fund the clinics.


From: myhome_is@no-spam
Subject: Re: Why ZHID Abortionists Kill Babies-FOR MILLION$!!
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 12:43:40 -0500

X-No-Archive: Yes On Wed, 25 Jun 2003 11:34:14 -0400, John Lauzon <bk469@no-spam> wrote:

>Sailor57 wrote:
>> >> Notice that Morgentaler is not apologising for making MILLIONS >> from killing babies.
>
>...he believes he is killing a life, but it is only a 'piece of tissue'.
>
>
>> Could it be that it is almost wholly non-Jew babies he and his ilk are >> killing?
>
>...I heard something similar years ago, that he won't abort >Jewish children.
>

I'd like to know how he'd get away with that now that the government is going to fund the clinics.


From: John Lauzon (bk469@no-spam)
Subject: Re: Why ZHID Abortionists Kill Babies-FOR MILLION$!!
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 14:28:35 -0400

Fred wrote:
> > He does not get away with that since it's bullshit. Call his clinics, say > you name is Moshe Cohen and your wife wants an abortion and you will get an > appointment.

...I doubt that he personally would abort a Jewish child.

> It's typical ignorant crap that John + Co. like to splatter on the Internet
...not typical, he has been in the papers and on tv, he has said many things.

> <myhome_is@no-spam> wrote in message > news:6pnjfvkegc9nh1bluvsav8idggm6aae3fo@no-spam > > X-No-Archive: Yes On Wed, 25 Jun 2003 11:34:14 -0400, John Lauzon > > <bk469@no-spam> wrote:
> >
> > >Sailor57 wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Notice that Morgentaler is not apologising for making MILLIONS > > >> from killing babies.
> > >
> > >...he believes he is killing a life, but it is only a 'piece of tissue'.
> > >
> > >
> > >> Could it be that it is almost wholly non-Jew babies he and his ilk are > > >> killing?
> > >
> > >...I heard something similar years ago, that he won't abort > > >Jewish children.
> > >
> >
> > I'd like to know how he'd get away with that now that the government is > > going to fund the clinics.


From: "Fred" (nospam@no-spam)
Subject: Re: Why ZHID Abortionists Kill Babies-FOR MILLION$!!
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 18:32:29 GMT

> ...I doubt that he personally would abort a Jewish child.

Do you know this you racist, ignorant, lump of shit, or are you assuming this based on your ignorance?

>
>
> > It's typical ignorant crap that John + Co. like to splatter on the Internet >
> ...not typical, he has been in the papers and on tv, he has said > many things.
>

I was talking about YOUR type ignorant posts
> > <myhome_is@no-spam> wrote in message > > news:6pnjfvkegc9nh1bluvsav8idggm6aae3fo@no-spam > > > X-No-Archive: Yes On Wed, 25 Jun 2003 11:34:14 -0400, John Lauzon > > > <bk469@no-spam> wrote:
> > >
> > > >Sailor57 wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> Notice that Morgentaler is not apologising for making MILLIONS > > > >> from killing babies.
> > > >
> > > >...he believes he is killing a life, but it is only a 'piece of tissue'.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> Could it be that it is almost wholly non-Jew babies he and his ilk are > > > >> killing?
> > > >
> > > >...I heard something similar years ago, that he won't abort > > > >Jewish children.
> > > >
> > >
> > > I'd like to know how he'd get away with that now that the government is > > > going to fund the clinics.


From: Ivan Gowch (gowch@no-spam)
Subject: Re: Why ZHID Abortionists Kill Babies-FOR MILLION$!!
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 15:50:05 -0400

On Wed, 25 Jun 2003 11:34:14 -0400, John Lauzon <bk469@no-spam>
wrote:

==>Sailor57 wrote:
==>> ==>> Notice that Morgentaler is not apologising for making MILLIONS ==>> from killing babies.
==>
==>...he believes he is killing a life, but it is only a 'piece of tissue'.
==>
==>
==>> Could it be that it is almost wholly non-Jew babies he and his ilk are ==>> killing?
==>
==>...I heard something similar years ago, that he won't abort ==>Jewish children.

Geez, you guys are a couple of sick motherfuckers.

Don't forget to wash your brown shirts, and keep your lynching ropes at the ready, OK?


From: "Ed" (no@no-spam)
Subject: Re: Why ZHID Abortionists Kill Babies-FOR MILLION$!!
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 23:59:03 GMT

What a bunch of low life idiots. I guess there are no Christian doctors assholes?

You can be for or against abortion, and I can see both sides, but the relgion comments shows what jerks you are
"Ivan Gowch" <gowch@no-spam> wrote in message news:u2vjfv0mlv7lef80ur1cdifdc445nqvka3@no-spam > On Wed, 25 Jun 2003 11:34:14 -0400, John Lauzon <bk469@no-spam>
> wrote:
>
> ==>Sailor57 wrote:
> ==>>
> ==>> Notice that Morgentaler is not apologising for making MILLIONS > ==>> from killing babies.
> ==>
> ==>...he believes he is killing a life, but it is only a 'piece of tissue'.
> ==>
> ==>
> ==>> Could it be that it is almost wholly non-Jew babies he and his ilk are > ==>> killing?
> ==>
> ==>...I heard something similar years ago, that he won't abort > ==>Jewish children.
>
>
> Geez, you guys are a couple of sick motherfuckers.
>
> Don't forget to wash your brown shirts, and keep > your lynching ropes at the ready, OK?
>
>


From: "MadRedHatter" (mee@no-spam)
Subject: Re: Why ZHID Abortionists Kill Babies-FOR MILLION$!!
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 00:02:05 GMT

"John Lauzon" <bk469@no-spam> wrote in message news:3EF9E9D3.397BA947@no-spam > Fred wrote:
> >
> > He does not get away with that since it's bullshit. Call his clinics,
say > > you name is Moshe Cohen and your wife wants an abortion and you will get an > > appointment.
>
> ...I doubt that he personally would abort a Jewish child.
>
And what do you base this extremely racist claim on??


From: "Ed" (no@no-spam)
Subject: Re: Why ZHID Abortionists Kill Babies-FOR MILLION$!!
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 00:28:56 GMT

Ummmmmmmmmmmm... Racist idiots don't base claims on anything. They make up things to prove their warped world view
Pulled it out of a hat, you could say!

"MadRedHatter" <mee@no-spam> wrote in message news:1KqKa.311627$Vi5.8181551@no-spam >
> "John Lauzon" <bk469@no-spam> wrote in message > news:3EF9E9D3.397BA947@no-spam > > Fred wrote:
> > >
> > > He does not get away with that since it's bullshit. Call his clinics,
> say > > > you name is Moshe Cohen and your wife wants an abortion and you will get > an > > > appointment.
> >
> > ...I doubt that he personally would abort a Jewish child.
> >
> And what do you base this extremely racist claim on??
>
>


From: "MadRedHatter" (mee@no-spam)
Subject: Re: Why ZHID Abortionists Kill Babies-FOR MILLION$!!
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 01:24:33 GMT

"Ed" <no@no-spam> wrote in message news:c7rKa.15431$H9q1.5321@no-spam > Ummmmmmmmmmmm... Racist idiots don't base claims on anything. They make up > things to prove their warped world view >
>
> Pulled it out of a hat, you could say!
>
Actually for people like John Lauzon most of his thoughts come straight out of his ass. ;)


From: johnl (johnl@no-spam)
Subject: Re: Why ZHID Abortionists Kill Babies-FOR MILLION$!!
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 01:42:57 -0400

Fred wrote:
> > > ...I doubt that he personally would abort a Jewish child.
> > Do you know this you racist, ignorant, lump of shit, or are you assuming > this based on your ignorance?

...I know you would be happy if he aborted Jewish children since you're a Jew hater.

> > > It's typical ignorant crap that John + Co. like to splatter on the > Internet > >
> > ...not typical, he has been in the papers and on tv, he has said > > many things.
> >
> > I was talking about YOUR type ignorant posts
...now if you want ignorant and STUPID posts, just read your own.


From: johnl (johnl@no-spam)
Subject: Re: Why ZHID Abortionists Kill Babies-FOR MILLION$!!
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 01:47:15 -0400

Ivan Gowch wrote:
> > On Wed, 25 Jun 2003 11:34:14 -0400, John Lauzon <bk469@no-spam>
> wrote:
> > ==>Sailor57 wrote:
> ==>>
> ==>> Notice that Morgentaler is not apologising for making MILLIONS > ==>> from killing babies.
> ==>
> ==>...he believes he is killing a life, but it is only a 'piece of tissue'.
> ==>
> ==>
> ==>> Could it be that it is almost wholly non-Jew babies he and his ilk are > ==>> killing?
> ==>
> ==>...I heard something similar years ago, that he won't abort > ==>Jewish children.
> > Geez, you guys are a couple of sick motherfuckers.
> > Don't forget to wash your brown shirts, and keep > your lynching ropes at the ready, OK?

...his not killing Jewish children bothers you eh?


From: Boris Dynin (boris@no-spam)
Subject: Re: Why ZHID Abortionists Kill Babies-FOR MILLION$!!
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 09:48:21 -0600

Since he admits to being a JEW, does this mean he does a BRONFMAN on the tax department, and pays no taxes??

On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 22:19:04 -0600, Sailor57 <sailor572001@no-spam>
wrote:

>Notice that Morgentaler is not apologising for making MILLIONS >from killing babies.
>Could it be that it is almost wholly non-Jew babies he and his ilk are >killing?

>On 22 Feb 2003 21:55:08 -0000, Morgentaler$$ <million$$@no-spam>
>wrote:
>
>>Posted by: Boris Dynin = NAMBLA executive &
>>Henry<hermcam@no-spam>
>>CALL late nights to discuss: (408) 773-0984
>>Email me: boris@no-spam , or even >>VISIT me at:
>>55 Chumasero Drive, Daly City, San Francisco 94132
>>
>>Kenneth McVay,SOBC, convicted of child molesting >>and car theft in California and Oregon, the >>well-known fag in Canada,Fag McVay of Vancouver,
>>also a convicted car thief and all round molester,
>>and still unemployed gas pump boy, mastermind of >>the Canadian branch of NAMBLA, wants all to know >>about all his fellow criminals and perverts.
>>Here is the latest.......
>>
>>From: "kenmcvay@no-spam"
>>Subject: JEW GETS MILLIONS KILLING BABIES!!!
>>Newsgroups: alt.abortion >>
>>From: Joe Kamenar <joelkamenar@no-spam>
>>Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian.romancatholic,
>>soc.culture.usa,soc.culture.canada,alt.abortion >>Subject: --> Abortion Is Murder >>Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 16:06:41 -0500
>>
>>If an aborted baby has a heartbeat and functioning >>organs (like a brain), then to take its life is murder.
>>This is not CHOICE.
>>People who support unlimited abortions and partial >>birth abortions should be banned from society.
>>How can anyone argue otherwise?
>>
>>
>>From: bmccandlss@no-spam (BMcCandlss)
>>Newsgroups: alt.abortion >>Subject: Re: MILLIONS FROM KILLING BABIES!!!
>>>Date: Sun, 21 November 1999 02:06 PM EST >>>On 21 Nov 1999 18:35:34 GMT, bmccandlss@no-spam >>>(BMcCandlss) wrote:
>>>> apifar@no-spam (Craig Chilton) wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, 21 Nov 1999 12:17:54 -0500 (EST),
>>>>> "boris@no-spam" <anonymous@no-spam> wrote:
>>
>>>> Sorry dude, the American Revolution was founded on the >>>> principle that all are created with the RIGHT to LIFE,
>>>> so your "Benediction" is given with foot in mouth.
>>
>>Keep dreaming.
>>Our founding documents were based on principles of >>English law, which DID ascribe these rights to the unborn;
>>it's cited right in Roe v. Wade.
>>
>>Likewise, our founding documents state that >>"all Men are created equal, that they are >>endowed by their creator with the right to life..."
>>
>>Note it says CREATED, not BORN.
>>NO "Men" were EVER born; only little babies are BORN.
>>Clearly this "creation" refers to something other than birth.
>>
>>Likewise, "Men" are not "created," we >>don't pop into existence fully formed.
>>
>>Simply put, abortion was tolerated only due to primitive >>ob/gyn practices of the day, nothing more-- your argument,
>>being based on them, dies with them.
>>
>>And yes, the unborn DO have intrinsic value in terms >>of their promise of a future as adults, just like infants >>do, which is why they are protected by law, as opposed to >>being shipped to the pound to be gassed with the cats >>and dogs which, although equally intelligent now, will >>NEVER reach adult human intellect.
>>
>>Maybe the unborn had no value BEFORE conception,
>>but by the time they're big enough to be aborted that's >>no longer the case; the die is cast, so those cast >>must not die.
>>
>>***VERY VALID POINTS OPPOSING >>***THE MURDERING ABORTIONISTS!!!
>>
>>From: "Mark" <mark1w@no-spam>
>>Newsgroups: edm.general,can.general >>Subject: Re: MORGENTALER MAKES $17 MILLIONS KILLING BABIES!!!
>>Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1999 10:36:57 -0700
>>
>>Melanie Piper wrote in message <3831CB3F.E0753FBC@no-spam>...
>>>boris.spetznatz@no-spam wrote:
>>>> From: bk469@no-spam (John Lauzon)
>>>> Subject: MORGENTALER: THE $17 MILLION/YEAR ABORTION MAN >>
>>Man alive just did a show on Morgentaler. I was amazed >>that he survived both Auschwitz and Dachau and yet still >>has such a callous view of life. His humanist views developed >>before WWII by the influence of his humanist father.
>>
>>I've been doing some reading on humanism lately. All of the >>worst people this century has seen were humanists. Hitler,
>>Stalin, Mao, and Pol Pot were all humanists. So it isn't >>surprising to me that Morgantaller, who signed the Humanist >>Manifesto II, would be just as willing to kill as they were.
>>
>>On an aside, he was also very willing to cheat on his wife,
>>and did so constantly.
>>
>>>> abortionist Henry Morgentaler, one can >>>> ascertain that Morgentaler makes at least $17,083,764
>>>> per year >>
>>>Do you want your reader to be jealous of his income? How is >>>his income relevant to whether or not his beliefs or activities >>>should/should not be supported?
>>
>>I've heard coimments from reformed abortionists that they >>did it for the incredible amount of money they make.
>>Morgantaler has personally performed 75,000 abortions,
>>at the going rate of about $600, that amounts to $45,000,000!!
>>
>>>> from his business of killing unborn babies.
>>
>>>Your choice of word for what he does. Sure wouldn't be mine.
>>
>>I have yet to hear a pregnant woman refer to her unborn baby >>as a featus, or a lump of flesh. "Oh, feel my tummy dear,
>>our lump of flesh is really kicking".
>>
>>
>>>> A province by province breakdown of abortion >>>> provision is provided by CARAL at >>>> http://www.caral.ca/situation1.html .
>>
>>>> The site lists the number of abortions performed per >>>> week at the Morgentaler abortuaries.
>>
>>>"abortuaries"--again a choice of words designed to inflame >>>and influence; a less-biased choice of words would be what >>>the facilities are actually termed within the conventional >>>medical and health-care "establishment": clinics.
>>
>>ROTFL. You call the guy an anti-semite and then you have the >>nerve to talk about inflamatory language. A mill is exactly >>what they are, get them in and out as fast as they can.
>>132,000 abortions were performed in 1996, that's one out >>of every five pregnancies.
>>
>>>Ah, what the hell. I support your right to your opinions, but >>>I just couldn't resist. I was taught to "read critically" in >>>about Grade Nine and sometimes the "button-pushers" just jump >>>out at me.
>>
>>Reading critically isn't worth much if you only read propaganda.
>>
>>Markw >>
>>
>>From: bk469@no-spam (John Lauzon)
>>Subject: MORGENTALER: THE $17 MILLION/YEAR ABORTION MAN >>
>>MORGENTALER: THE $17 MILLION/YEAR ABORTION MAN >>
>>OTTAWA, Nov 10 (LSN.ca) - From statistics and figures >>published on the website of the Canadian Abortion Rights >>Action League (CARAL) and the website of notorious >>Canadian Jewish abortionist Henry Morgentaler, one can >>ascertain that Morgentaler makes at least $17,083,764
>>per year from his business of killing unborn babies.
>>
>>Health researcher Isabelle Begin who discovered the >>information informed LifeSite News that Morgentaler >>owns and operates 8 clinics in 7 provinces in Canada.
>>
>>Adding the numbers of abortions performed in the >>Morgentaler clinics (save for the Edmonton clinic figures,
>>which are unavailable) and multiplying by the average >>cost of these abortions (as compiled from information >>on Morgentaler's website) one can conclude that >>destroying pre-born humans makes a substantial >>contribution to Morgentaler's comfortable livelihood.
>>The calculation goes like this:
>>Average yearly revenue: $607.25/abortion x 28,133
>>+ (no info for Edmonton) = $17,083,764
>>minimum yearly gross revenue.
>>
>>A province by province breakdown of abortion >>provision is provided by CARAL at http://www.caral.ca/situation1.html >>
>>
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>>
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>>(George Orwell)
>>
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>>
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>>and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
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>>
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>>
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>>
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>>
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