AB GENERAL 68 RE WWW NIZKOR ORG IS A TAX SCAM AND YOU THE TAX PAYER ARE FOOTING THE BILL R 13

AB GENERAL 68 RE WWW NIZKOR ORG IS A TAX SCAM AND YOU THE TAX PAYER ARE FOOTING THE BILL R 13

From: "Ken McVay" (kmcvay@no-spam)

Subject: Re: WWW.NIZKOR.ORG IS A TAX SCAM AND YOU, THE TAX PAYER, ARE FOOTING THE BILL!....R_13

Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 13:17:30 -0700

"Disgusted" <unknown@no-spam> wrote in message news:o7p8gv0mqj3l9ie3k7uqkk7l8ojleojlcu@no-spam > http://nizkor.org/hweb/people/g/grosvenor-william/make-my-year.html
Great link, Bill!

From: Ken McVay (KenMcVay@no-spam)

Subject: Re: WWW.NIZKOR.ORG IS A TAX SCAM AND YOU, THE TAX PAYER, ARE FOOTING THE BILL!....R_13

Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2003 17:23:39 -0600

So what?

On Thu, 03 Jul 2003 11:17:06 -0600, Disgusted <unknown@no-spam>
wrote:

>On Sun, 13 Jan 2002 22:16:42 -0600, IIIII ><-t-a--v-i-sh-4--8@no-spam Remove_ Hyphens 2_ Mail>
>wrote:
>
>>From April 25, 2001
>
>>Straight from CCRA: "we have no record of a registered charity by the name of >>Nizkor.org." >
>
>> THIS POST TO BE FILED WITH CCRA >
>>FOREWORD: Canadian revenue payers you need to contact CCRA and ask them how a >>website is able to receive "exempt donations" when it is neither a registered >>charity or a Non Profit Organization. A letter (included below) from CCRA >>advises me they never heard of NIZKOR.ORG so you all should be asking how Nizkor
>>is offering: "Donations over $10.00 will receive a Canadian tax receipt" when it
>>is nothing more than a website!
>>
>>It's YOUR tax dollars financing a man who pays himself to defame private >>citizens!
>>
>>http://www.nizkor.org/funding.shtml >>Click here to learn how to make an exempt donation (Canadian receipt)
>>
>>CCRA said: "we have no record of a registered charity by the name of >>Nizkor.org." (Letter included below) Only registered charities are allowed to >>issue "Canadian receipts"!!
>>
>>"A registered charity is a charity that has specifically applied to the Canada
>>Customs and Revenue Agency for registration and has been accepted as such. A >>registered charity can issue charitable receipts for tax purposes." CCRA rule
>>included below with web link for verification!
>>
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>>From: Charity webmail <Charities-Bienfaisance@no-spam>
>>Sender: "Langdon, Blaine" <Blaine.Langdon@no-spam>
>>To: Scott Bradbury <xxxxxx@no-spam>
>>Subject: Registered charity question.
>>Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 16:23:26 -0500
>>X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19)
>>
>>Thank you for your e-mail.
>>
>>The Charities Directorate of the Canada Customs and Revenue Agency is >>responsible for the registration and compliance of charities in Canada.
>>These organizations are similar to "exempt organizations" as are registered in
>>the United States. However, we have no record of a registered charity by the >>name of Nizkor.org.
>>
>>Additionally, due to the confidentiality provisions of the Canadian Income >>Tax Act, I am unable to disclose information concerning a particular >>organization's tax affairs, including measures taken or to be taken by the >>Department resulting from complaints. However, I wish to assure you that all >>complaints received by the Department are treated seriously and are fully >>investigated, where appropriate.
>>
>>Finally, the annual information returns of Canadian registered charities are >>available to the public. However, as you will note from the above,
>>Nizkor.org is not a registered charity. The non-profit information return >>which you describe is not available to the public.
>>
>>Thank you for bringing your concerns to our attention.
>>
>>Sincerely,
>>
>>Blaine Langdon >>Charities Directorate >>
>> ~~~~END~~~~
>>
>>LURKERS here is how Ken McVay and his Nizkor is robbing you:
>>
>>Folks I am getting CCRA's attention and you all should be putting forth the >>effort to find out just how and why a "website" receives "exempt donations" and
>>the proprietor "pays himself" from such donations and also his website has >>issued "tax receipts." This is a scam which bilks the Canadian Tax Payer!
>>
>>LOOK!
>>
>>http://www.ccra-adrc.gc.ca/tax/nonprofit/menu-e.html >>Non-profit organizations - Canadian Customs and Revenue Agency >>
>>http://www.ccra-adrc.gc.ca/
>>Canadian Customs and Revenue Agency >>
>>Remember Canadian Tax Payers- It is YOU who is subsidizing Nizkor! Do you want
>>your tax dollar subsidizing this web site?
>>
>>http://groups.google.com/groups?q=Nizkor=&rnum=16&seld=909625816&ic=1&filter=0

>>From: kmcvay@no-spam (Kenneth McVay, OBC)
>>Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,bc.general,can.general,tor.general,on.general >>Subject: Re: ATTENTION NIZKOR: Income Tax Guide to the Non-Profit Organization
>>(NPO) Information Return Form T1044
>>Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 01:52:00 +0000 (UTC)
>>Organization: The Nizkor Project, http://www.nizkor.org/
>>Message-ID: <99oro0$259r$1@no-spam>
>>References: <eghvbtgm6r3tsa0efu2o9rl1ossu4v8o2c@no-spam>
>><3abfe742$0$195@no-spam>
>>
>>On Tue, 27 Mar 2001 01:52:00 +0000 (UTC), kmcvay@no-spam (Kenneth >>McVay, OBC) wrote:
>>
>>>Poor Mr. Bradbury... if he had a brain, he would be dangerous.
>>>
>>>Nizkor is neither an NPO nor a Charity. Nizkor is a website.
>>
>>Glad to see you making that a public record. Care to explain how a website not
>>being either an "NPO nor a Charity" can operate as you do and issue tax >>receipts? No personal attacks now McVay because I WILL HOLD YOUR FEET TO THE >>FIRE! I think CCRA would be interested in what you just declared too!
>>
>>>Paranoia is a terrible thing, particularly when coupled with Mr.
>>>Bradbury's abysmal ignorance.
>>
>>Personal attack is all people have when they can't argue their position! Has >>everyone ever noticed that trait in people who have something to hide?
>>
>>Why do you accept "exempt donations" and issue tax receipts you bold faced liar
>>and sleaze bag? Answer that instead of making with the wise cracks.
>>
>>You are NOT allowed by law to grant tax receipts according CCRA statutes which
>>you so conveniently deleted. The more you act like a pompous arrogant ass- the
>>more it makes me want to put you in your place.
>>
>>YOU ARE A LIAR!
>>
>>Canadian revenue payers take note of this sleazer! He's being subsidized at your
>>expense!
>>
>>What sleaze bag McVay deleted because he doesn't want to deal with it:
>>
>>http://www.ccra-adrc.gc.ca/E/pub/tg/t4117eq/t4117eq.html#P131_12645
>>
>>Income Tax Guide to the Non-Profit Organization (NPO) Information Return >>Includes Form T1044
>>Visually impaired persons can get information on services available to them, and
>>can order publications in braille or large print, or on audio cassette or >>computer diskette, by calling 1-800-267-1267 weekdays from 8:15 a.m. to 5:00
>>p.m. (Eastern Time).
>>
>>[...]
>>
>>An NPO described in paragraph 149(1)(l) of the Income Tax Act is a club,
>>society, or association that is organized and operated solely for:
>>
>>social welfare;
>>civic improvement;
>>pleasure or recreation;
>>or any other purpose except profit.
>>
>>Also, no part of the income of these organizations can be payable to or >>otherwise available for the personal benefit of any proprietor, member, or >>shareholder, unless the proprietor, member, or shareholder was a club,
>>society,or association whose primary purpose was to promote amateur athletics in
>>Canada.
>>
>><<I don't think Nizkor promotes amateur athletics in Canada! Please note that >>the law states above: "no part of the income of these organizations can be >>payable to or otherwise available for the personal benefit of any proprietor.."

>>yet Ken McVay is the proprietor or director of Nizkor (a website) and he is on
>>public record (also shown below) as responding to this question: "Does Ken McVay
>>pay himself a salary for his work for Nizkor?" with "Yup." Plainly this violates
>>the above and seeing how Nizkor operates as a back room operation from the >>"proprietor's" own house (proven below) this operation should be very >>questionable! Finally note that Ken McVay announced in a public posting above:

>>"Nizkor is neither an NPO nor a Charity. Nizkor is a website." How does a >>"website" warrant receiving "exempt donations"? Doc Tavish Comments>>
>>
>>Distinguishing non-profit organizations from registered charities >>An NPO is not a registered charity. A registered charity is a charity that has
>>specifically applied to the Canada Customs and Revenue Agency for registration
>>and has been accepted as such.
>>
>>A registered charity can issue charitable receipts for tax purposes. An NPO does
>>not have to register either federally or provincially to maintain its privileged
>>tax status.
>>
>>Generally, registered charities also have to disburse 80% of the funds for which
>>they issued charitable receipts on their own charitable activities or as gifts
>>to qualified donees. NPOs cannot issue tax receipts for donations or membership
>>fees contributed, and they are not required to disburse a specified percentage
>>of their earnings.
>>
>><End of CCRA web page>
>>
>>Notice what CCRA said about "issu[ing] charitable receipts for tax purposes"?
>>Look at McVay's operation and see if it complies with the law stated above:
>>"NPOs cannot issue tax receipts for donations.." yet Ken McVay's very own NIZKOR
>>page says: "Donations over $10.00 will receive a Canadian tax receipt." Ken >>McVay also claims that NIZKOR is NOT a charity >>as shown down further in this post.
>>
>>http://www.nizkor.org/funding.shtml >>Click here to learn how to make an exempt donation (Canadian receipt)
>>http://www.nizkor.org/league-donation.html >>
>> The Nizkor Project is pleased to announce its cooperative affiliation >>with the League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada. The League is a >>national volunteer organization dedicated to combatting antisemitism,
>>racism and bigotry, and to promoting human rights for all Canadians.
>> Donors wishing to use their VISA or MASTER CARD for their donation may >>call B'nai Brith directly, at 1-416-633-6224, and advise the receptionist >>that they wish to make a donation to the Nizkor Project; If you prefer,
>>you can print this form and send to:
>>
>>The Nizkor Project >>c/o >>The League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada >>15 Hove Street >>Toronto, Ontario M3H 4Y8
>>
>>Name:________________________________________
>>Street Address:________________________________________________
>>City_________________State/Province__________Postal Code_______
>>E-Mail Address:_________________________________
>>Amount Enclosed: $___________
>>
>>Please make your donations payable to "The League for Human Rights of >>B'nai Brith Canada," and add the words "Nizkor Trust Fund" to the cheque's >>memo section. A portion of amounts donated to the Trust Fund is used to >>build the Nizkor Endowment Fund. If you prefer that all of your donation >>be invested for Nizkor's future needs, please earmark your cheque or draft >>with the notation 'For The Nizkor Endowment Fund Only. (All bequests >>should be to the 'Nizkor Endowment Fund, Care of The League for Human >>Rights of B'nai Brith Canada'.)
>>
>>Donations over $10.00 will receive a Canadian tax receipt.
>>[#0235903-43-13]
>>
>>-----------------------
>>
>>Notice what is said above? Look what Ken Mcvay has said not too long ago:
>>
>>http://groups.google.com/groups?q=charity=&rnum=4&seld=955885050&ic=1
>>From: Kenneth McVay, OBC (kmcvay@no-spam >>Subject: Re: JEWS DUMPED FAG MCVAY!!!
>>Newsgroups: alt.revisionism >>Date: 2000-12-05 13:46:34 PST >>
>>"McVay/Nizkor" has never issued tax receipts of any sort, Mr.
>>Grosvenor, so it's rather silly to suggest we got "caught at it."
>>
>><end>
>>
>>Notice how McVay says one thing and then says another? His very own "website"
>>says: "Donations over $10.00 will receive a Canadian tax receipt."
>>http://www.nizkor.org/league-donation.html >>Yet in the post just above McVay said: "McVay/Nizkor" has never issued tax >>receipts of any sort, Mr. Grosvenor, so it's rather silly to suggest we got >>"caught at it." McVay is a LIAR anyway you look at it! I provided the links to
>>all of my proofs so that you all, the concerned citizenry may verify my claims.

>>
>>It is also plain that McVay does not claim Nizkor to be a charitable >>organization as shown here:
>>
>>http://groups.google.com/groups?q=charitable=&rnum=1&seld=943267125&ic=1
>>From: Kenneth McVay, OBC (kmcvay@no-spam >>Subject: Re: Is Ken McVay's WWW.NIZKOR.ORG A Sham Which Gets its Director >>Spending Money? R 2
>>Date: 2001-01-06 00:00:08 PST >>
>>In article <8kjd5t0el7tbd9lv4o7tsg7hii3qmsgns9@no-spam>,
>>Doc Tavish <doc_tavishREMOVE@no-spam> wrote:
>>>We know that the Nizkor website relies on charitable donations in order to >>>survive. We also accept that any organization whose survival depends on >>>charitable donations should make its records open to the public. Will Ken >>>McVay answer these questions as he is the director of Nizkor!
>>
>>How does Mr. Bradbury "know" these things?
>>How does Mr. Bradbury "know" that Nizkor is a "charitable >>organization?" (Can he show that anyone from Nizkor has ever claimed to >>be such an organization?)
>>
>><end>
>>
>>Well now we know Nizkor is not a "charitable organization" so it has to be an >>NPO?! So why does Ken McVay's NPO declare at its web page: "Donations over >>$10.00 will receive a Canadian tax receipt" which would be in violation of:
>>"NPOs cannot issue tax receipts for donations" but Ken McVay lies to a person >>who's an object of his smear campaign: "McVay/Nizkor" has never issued tax >>receipts of any sort.." Then again KcVay admitted higher up in this post:
>>"Nizkor is neither an NPO nor a Charity. Nizkor is a website." See how NIZKOR >>skirts all criteria of the tax laws?
>>
>>Does Nizkor or does Nizkor not look crooked?
>>
>>Seeing how Ken McVay's Nizkor accepts "exempt donation[s]" it would be >>interesting to see why the Canadian Government actually approves an >>organization with such tax status to operate under the conditions Ken >>McVay's Nizkor does. To this very day Ken McVay will not answer these >>questions:
>>
>>1) What is the tax number of Nizkor?
>>2) What is the physical address of Nizkor?
>>3) What is the phone number of Nizkor?
>>4) Where can one find the organizational papers for Nizkor?
>> a) How many people compose the Nizkor staff?
>> b) What are the financial responsibilities of Nizkor?
>>5) What is the evidence offered that Nizkor is authorized to >> solicit tax free contributions?
>>6) How much money does Nizkor Org receive yearly as charitable donations?
>>7) You show below that you pay yourself-- what is your yearly pay?
>>
>>Subject: Re: How much of a cut does the B'nai Brith get from Nizkor?
>>Date: 05/08/2000
>>Author: Kenneth McVay, OBC <kmcvay@no-spam>
>>
>>>f) Does Ken McVay pay himself a salary for his work for Nizkor?
>>
>>Yup - I also appreciate revenue from public speaking and site advertising.
>>
>>~~~~~~~End Archival Excerpt~~~~~~
>>
>>8) Is Nizkor proper (it's office and main facilities) located in a back >>room of your own residence as this says?
>>http://www.Xgeocities.com/dcjarviks/Idler/vIn15.htmlX >>(Remove the X's to view the site, this is to help prevent McVay from >>spamming the search engines. Link active March 24, 2001)
>>
>>"A Voyage to Nanaimo-- It takes two hours to cross the Georgia Strait by >>ferry from Vancouver, British Columbia, another half-hour by jitney from >>the Nanaimo terminal to reach the home of Kenneth N. McVay, webmaster for >>The Nizkor Project . The address is an ordinary suburban split-level in a >>middle-class neighborhood. There is nothing distinctive about its >>location. .... I am taken to a back room, filled with computer equipment,
>>monitors, and books... Seated in front of the array is McVay, apparently a >>50-something computer nerd. He is tall, thin, with short hair and glasses,
>>wired to the world through his ISP. The Nizkor project which McVay runs >>from this room in the back of his house... " <END>
>>
>>A question for all reading this:
>>How many organizations which receive charitable contributions operate from >>the backroom of the director's home? He claims to be non-profit and it >>appears that he would have a low overhead-- so how much money does Ken >>McVay receive for his backroom operation? Why won't Ken McVay make public >>his budget?
>>
>>9) What sort of legitimate organization keeps files on private citizens >>and publicly defames people on its "hit list" as Nizkor does?
>>This link shows how he keeps files on private citizens:
>>http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/
>>Here are some links to files in which Ken McVay through his Nizkor defames >>private citizens:
>>http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/ftp.py?people//g/grosvenor.william >>http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/ftp.py?people//g/giwer.matt >>http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/ftp.py?people//b/bradbury.scott >><<the above link has files concerning a lawsuit in which a final decision >>has not been made and most if not all of the complaints have been proven >>false and furthermore the plaintiff implicated himself as being a person >>who made criminal incitements to murder which are currently in "que" to be >>investigated. See these links:
>>http://groups.google.com/groups?q=digsig=&rnum=1&seld=914072558&ic=1
>>"John Morris Condones Criminal Acts By Mentally Disturbed Allentown >>Attorney Yale F. Edeiken.."
>>http://groups.google.com/groups?q=digsig=&rnum=1&seld=913445492&ic=1
>>"Canada's Very Own Nizkor's Lies, Smears, and Defamation Answered"
>>http://groups.google.com/groups?q=digsig=&rnum=5&seld=921850669&ic=1
>>"Pathological Liar Tubby Edeiken's Perjured Fabricated Evidence"
>>To continually propagate information which has been proven false,
>>perjurious, and fabricated and by a person who incited murder against >>the person he has litigated is most deplorable BUT this is what Ken >>McVay's Nizkor does with "exempt donation[s]." An organization such as >>Nizkor would not be able to operate in this manner in the United States >>and perhaps this is why Ken McVay left the United States to operate from >>Canada!>>
>>
>>Time will tell. Those interested in finding out why Nizkor can operate in this
>>manner should contact: http://www.ccra-adrc.gc.ca/contact/
>>Which is the Canada Customs and Revenue Agency.
>>
>>Nizkor would not be allowed to operate in the manner it does in America and >>perhaps this is why Ken McVay, director of Nizkor, diverts attention from having
>>an American money pot!
>>
>>LOOK!
>>
>>http://groups.google.com/groups?q=San+Antonio=&rnum=1&seld=943818623&ic=1
>>From: Kenneth McVay, OBC (kmcvay@no-spam >>Subject: STILL Waiting for Donnie..... (Or "Bradbury: Wrong Again")
>>Newsgroups: alt.revisionism >>Date: 2001-01-04 16:32:12 PST >>
>>Mr. Bradbury, wishing to demonstrate how ill-equipped he is to deal with >>evidence of any sort, offers the following information:
>>
>>====================== Begin Bradbury Quote ========================
>>
>>[...]
>>
>>For those who are curious, here the details of >><http://www.geektools.com/cgi-bin/proxy.cgi?query=MAZAL.ORG>
>>the neutral people behind Mr Mazal:
>>His above website is registered by the >>"San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund" c/o BASIC of >>600 Sandau Suite 400,
>>San Antonio, TX 78216, in Texas, USA.
>>The billing contact is Mr Harry Mazal of the same address:
>>San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund c/o BASIC,
>>600 Sandau, Suite 400, San Antonio, TX 78216,
>>and their phone number is 210-377-2422.
>>Somebody might like to check them out in more details. We will be >>happy in the spirit of openness to post all that we are told of >>these people. It is the old Nizkor gang at work again.
>>
>> ~~~~END~~~~
>>
>>My reply to Ken McVay and other Nizkook heckles:
>>
>>On 3 Jan 2001 21:01:01 GMT, kmcvay@no-spam (Kenneth McVay, OBC)
>>wrote:
>>
>>>In article <szkofxojqyf.fsf@no-spam>,
>>>Patrick L. Humphrey <patrick@no-spam> wrote:
>>>>Jeff F. Davis <jeff_f_davis@no-spam> writes:
>>>>
>>>>>Start pulling up as many of Ken McVay's denials of having Nizkor >>>>>operations in Texas from the archives. I would do it but I have to go to >>>>>work now. Rev is digging them up also as we speak.
>>
>>>>Of course, Donnie -- so you can spam them a few hundred times, or produce a >>>>cut-and-paste forgery like you did last year with that newswire article you >>>>ripped off from Reuters and massaged it to make it look like I'd been >>>>arrested in a city I didn't visit until five months after the story's date.
>>>>Who do you think you're fooling this time?
>>
>>>It should be interesting waiting for Donnie to produce evidence that >>>any such "operation" exists. I figure I should be able to work through >>>several million additional web pages while we wait.....
>>
>>I just proved you to be a liar Ken McVay with the information posted >>above! Notice the info is fairly current and is not outdated by any means!
>>Your organization is named! Care to deny it now liar?
>>
>>>He seems to have a problem with his reading comprehension :-)
>>
>>How does your reading comprehension interpret the info below? (snicker >>snicker)
>>
>>Whois: mazal.org >>Server: -automatic-
>>
>>Registrant:
>>San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund c/o BASIC (MAZAL2-DOM)
>> 600 Sandau Suite 400
>> San Antonio, TX 78216 US >>
>>====================== End Bradbury Quote ========================
>>
>>What Mr. Bradbury has failed to demonstrate is that The Nizkor Project, which I
>>direct, has any association whatsoever with the "San Antonio Area Foundation -

>>Nizkor Fund."
>>
>>That is because Mr. Bradbury is not very bright.
>>
>> The Nizkor Project has no operations of any sort whatsoever within the United
>>States Neither The Nizkor Project nor Ken McVay has ever received any money >>from the "San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund"
>>
>>For further information, review the file which Mr. Ellis and Mr. Bradbury >>continue to ignore:
>>http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/m/mcvay.ken/2000/San_Antonio_Area_Foundation_donation
>>
>>I am compelled once again remind Mr. Ellis, and thus Mr. Bradbury, that my >>challenge stands:
>>
>>If you have any _evidence_ that The Nizkor Project has _any_ sort of >>organization in the United States, produce it.
>>
>>While waiting for Don Ellis (or anyone else in the Wading Pool) to >>produce evidence that there exists some sort of "Nizkor Organization"
>>in San Antonio, Texas, I have archived 64 new files.
>>
>>1,999,936 to go.
>>
>>http://www.nizkor.org/ftp-whats-new.cgi >>
>><<YAWN>>
>>
>> ~~End of GOOGLE Archive~~
>>
>>See how McVay answers proven fact with name call and personal insult?
>>BTW everyone click this link and it will still show that there is still a Nizkor
>>Fund in San Antonio, Texas.
>><http://www.geektools.com/cgi-bin/proxy.cgi?query=MAZAL.ORG>
>>
>>I just clicked it and it said the same as what I posted above and it did claim:

>>"Database last updated on 30-Mar-2001 15:11:00 EST."
>>
>>I guess Ken McVay will tell us that there are two Nizkors now!?
>>
>>What can you expect from a liar and a defamer of men?
>>
>>Canadian tax payers- you're subsidizing this sleazer!
>>
>>Here is your money being used to finance this:
>>
>>Sample of Ken McVay's (funded through B'nai Brith) defamations:
>>
>>http://groups.google.com/groups?q=digsig=&rnum=1&seld=909770571&ic=1
>>
>>On 14 Jun 2000 04:48:42 GMT, kmcvay@no-spam (Kenneth McVay, OBC) wrote:
>>
>>>In article <0af6a0a0.a9d5d6ab@no-spam>,
>>>BIRKENAU <michael872NOmiSPAM@no-spam> wrote:
>>>>Why interesting? Brought to you courtesy of Mr.
>>>>Winkler.
>>
>>>Nope. Only one idiot that adds Winkler's name to his "anonymous" posts, and >>>that's William Grosvenor.... it's most likely one of his bits of vomit - he >>>is a well known hatemonger and documented liar. See >>>http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/g/grosvenor-william >>
>>Let us use the example link Ken McVay gave above:
>><http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/g/grosvenor-william>
>>
>>File Name Size Date >>
>>about-grosvenor 26.6K Feb 21 1999
>>background-grosvenor 18.3K Jun 04 1996
>>background-gruber 4.6K Nov 27 1997
>>gruber-10q 13.7K Apr 24 2000
>>gruber-10q.pl 13.0K Jan 01 1999
>>
>>[...]
>>
>>From: kmcvay@no-spam (Kenneth McVay, OBC)
>>Newsgroups: alt.revisionism >>Subject: Re: Question for Hilary Ostrov >>Date: 5 Jan 2001 19:07:34 GMT >>Organization: The Nizkor Project, http://www.nizkor.org/
>>Message-ID: <93561m$dbm$1@no-spam>
>>
>>On 5 Jan 2001 19:07:34 GMT, kmcvay@no-spam (Kenneth McVay, OBC)
>>wrote:
>>
>>>In article <3A562749.981FA7@no-spam>,
>>>Buck Turgidson <deppitybob@no-spam> wrote:
>>>
>>>>"Jeff F. Davis" wrote:
>>>
>>>[...]
>>>
>>>>> I am not sure but the B'nai Brith (which controls Nizkor by the way >>>>> rather Ken admits this or not) is so powerful in Canada they had the >>>>> nerve in a Canadian court that they should be able to illegally harass >>>>> people because of the nature of the holocaust and all the good they have >>>>> done to fight racism.
>>
>>>>Looks like Li'l Tommy doesn't bogart HIS joints!
>>
>>I'd have guessed Mid-Hootch Giwerundean, actually. We used to see a >>lot more of it here, but I gather the Sterno shortage of '98 led to a >>steep decline.
>>
>>Of course, Donnie could simply have been sniffing gasoline.
>>
>><end>
>>
>>From: kmcvay@no-spam (Kenneth McVay, OBC)
>>Newsgroups: alt.revisionism >>Subject: Re: Just In to the Tavish Hotline!...
>>Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 21:37:02 +0000 (UTC)
>>Organization: The Nizkor Project, http://www.nizkor.org/
>>Message-ID: <9a2u9u$19dg$1@no-spam>
>>
>>On Fri, 30 Mar 2001 21:37:02 +0000 (UTC), <9a2u9u$19dg$1@no-spam>
>>kmcvay@no-spam (Kenneth McVay, OBC) wrote:
>>
>>[...]
>>
>>>I understand that Bradbury may need money to buy an old trailer after >>>his house is turned into a Jewish daycare center....
>>>
>>>I guess there's no way it'll ever be kosher, tho, what with all that >>>lard...
>>>
>>>--
>>>"...I note that on the few occasions of which I am aware where purveyors of >>>anti-Semitic propaganda have endeavoured to justify their materials in >>>court on the facts and the merits, they have been singularly unsuccessful..."

>>> (http://www2.ca.nizkor.org/hweb/people/s/scully-olga/reason.html)
>>
>>Anyone perusing: http://groups.google.com/advanced_group_search >>and using Nizkor Ken McVay's e-mail address >>kmcvay@no-spam entered into GOOGLE'S >>"Author Return only messages where the author is:" search now and using key >>words such as Sterno Giwerundean Ignoramus etc. can see how Canadian >>tax payers have subsidized for years a "website" which engages in petty attacks
>>against private citizens.
>>
>>More examples:
>>
>>From: kmcvay@no-spam (Kenneth McVay, OBC)
>>Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,bc.general,can.general,tor.general,on.general >>Subject: Re: ATTENTION NIZKOR: Income Tax Guide to the Non-Profit Organization
>>(NPO) Information Return Form T1044
>>Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 01:52:00 +0000 (UTC)
>>Organization: The Nizkor Project, http://www.nizkor.org/
>>Message-ID: <99oro0$259r$1@no-spam>
>>References: <eghvbtgm6r3tsa0efu2o9rl1ossu4v8o2c@no-spam>
>><3abfe742$0$195@no-spam>
>>
>>On Tue, 27 Mar 2001 01:52:00 +0000 (UTC), kmcvay@no-spam (Kenneth >>McVay, OBC) wrote:
>>
>>>Poor Mr. Bradbury... if he had a brain, he would be dangerous.
>>>
>>>Nizkor is neither an NPO nor a Charity. Nizkor is a website.
>>
>><end>
>>
>>I asked why should a "website" be awarding tax receipts and I get personally >>attacked!
>>
>>More examples of either keeping files on private citizens and/or defaming them:

>>
>>http://groups.google.com/groups?q=bonehead=&rnum=1&seld=911008830&ic=1
>>From: Kenneth McVay, OBC (kmcvay@no-spam >>Subject: Re: Neya Kulturny proltariat >>Date: 2001-03-23 07:57:07 PST >>
>>Followups to Giwer trolls should be redirected to Mr. Giwer's special >>newsgroup, alt.bonehead.matt-giwer, where they will be appropriately >>ignored (the group has no users - it's just a convenient toilet for >>Matt's vomitus). If your site does not carry alt.bonehead.matt-giwer,
>>redirect non-Holocaust articles to alt.politics.white-power,
>>an equally vapid dumping ground for Giwerundian babblings.
>>
>><end>
>>
>>Same defamation and the same invitation to FLOOD other news groups can be seen
>>at these links too!
>>http://groups.google.com/groups?q=bonehead=&rnum=2&seld=911187938&ic=1
>>http://groups.google.com/groups?q=bonehead=&rnum=3&seld=914643309&ic=1
>>http://groups.google.com/groups?q=bonehead=&rnum=4&seld=915710792&ic=1
>>
>>http://groups.google.com/groups?q=bonehead=&rnum=5&seld=916119887&ic=1
>>From: Kenneth McVay, OBC (kmcvay@no-spam >>Subject: Matt Giwer: disgusting troll >>Newsgroups: talk.politics.mideast, soc.culture.british, soc.culture.canada,
>>soc.culture.usa >>Date: 2001-03-09 10:18:49 PST >>
>>In article <98b6av$3pt$1@no-spam>,
>>William Black <black_william@no-spam> wrote:
>>>
>>>Roger Alexander <rlalexNOSPAM@no-spam> wrote in message >>>news:3AA82DCD.2AB55FD1@no-spam >>>> Mr. McVay is spamming the NG. He repeats this defamation of the poster >>>> time after time after time, and since he has it on a file, it takes him >>>> not time at all to put it forth. He is to be castigated for doing it,
>>>> and if it continues I will take it up with his ISP.
>>
>>>But the shit Giwer needs persecuting, the truth is no defamation.
>>
>>Mr. Giwer isn't being persecuted, he's being exposed. He is, without >>question, a troll of the worst sort, and, whether Mr. Alexander likes >>it or not, I will continue to warn others.
>>
>><end>
>>
>>Canadian taxpayers- do you wish to subsidize Ken McVay attacking and defaming >>private citizens? You currently are subsidizing McVay whether you all know it or
>>not!
>>
>>http://groups.google.com/groups?q=bonehead=&rnum=13&seld=935054917&ic=1
>>From: Kenneth McVay, OBC (kmcvay@no-spam >>Subject: Re: The wacky adventures of Matt Giwer >>Newsgroups: sci.skeptic, soc.history.ancient, alt.revisionism >>Date: 2001-01-24 09:47:43 PST >>
>>In article <Orac-EFD9B7.12262624012001@no-spam>,
>>Orac <Orac@no-spam> wrote:
>>
>>>Matty is lying, of course.
>>
>>Of course. That's what Mr. Giwer does. (With any luck at all, we may >>be entertained with Full-Hootch Giwerundean during this thread, if the >>Sterno holds out.)
>>
>><end>
>>
>>http://groups.google.com/groups?q=bonehead=&rnum=20&seld=978476551&ic=1
>>From: Kenneth McVay, OBC (kmcvay@no-spam >>Subject: Re: Matt Giwer -- troll and drunkard >>Newsgroups: soc.history.ancient, alt.history.ancient-worlds, talk.origins,
>>alt.revisionism >>Date: 2000-10-11 08:40:15 PST >>
>>In article <39E4723C.437FE1FE@no-spam>,
>>David Gehrig <zemblan@no-spam> wrote:
>>
>>[speaking to a troll]
>>
>>>Now, now, Matty, you know that the man who runs the site isn't Jewish >>>and doesn't belong to the Anti-Defamation League. Why lie?
>>
>>Mr. Giwer is, as far as I can determine, a troller whose only >>interest is in causing fights. While he can sound superficially >>plausible, he has lied** about what has been said in exchanges (while >>accusing others of lying), refused to document claims..
>>
>><end>
>>
>>The truth is Matt Giwer did not lie. Ken McVay's Nizkor is financed by "exempt
>>donations" funneled through B'nai Brith the mother organization of ADL as shown
>>higher up in this post.
>>
>>http://groups.google.com/groups?q=sterno=&rnum=2&seld=979137702&ic=1
>>From: Kenneth McVay, OBC (kmcvay@no-spam >>Subject: Re: Gourd McFee >>Newsgroups: alt.revisionism >>Date: 2000-10-09 19:03:24 PST >>
>>In article <catamont-EB657B.19395709102000@no-spam>,
>>Sara Salzman <catamont@no-spam> wrote:
>>
>>[...]
>>
>>[Some drunk wrote]
>>
>> [ What's more incredible is that this Susie thinks you have to count >> whatever Gourd types have spent time at when all you have to do is >> type in its name and there the number is. We can do the same thing >> with "Susie" and get thousands and they would all be just like what >> he/she/it has put out here. ]
>>
>>[an understandably perplexed human with a working mind asked...]
>>
>>I know the words are English, but what language is this?!
>>
>>>I believe it is Full-Hooch Giwerundian. Ask Ken McVay, I believe he >>>studied it a few years ago.
>>
>>I must agree... the cited text has every appearance of being a sample >>of Full-Hootch Giwerundean. That is quite beyond dispute.
>>
>>Whether this suggests that the Moron has further degenerated to the >>Full Pits or has simply begun the endless Sterno Cycle is not known.
>>Additional samples will, as always, provide scientists with valuable >>clues.
>>
>>Perhaps the real question for research scientists is this: If a Moron >>ingests several gallons of Sterno, would anyone notice?
>>
>><end>
>>
>>Well Canadian taxpayers do you wish to subsidize a "website" and its director in
>>their campaign to call people drunks and drinkers of Sterno? You're doing it!
>>
>>http://groups.google.com/groups?q=drunk=&rnum=2&seld=922213860&ic=1
>>From: Kenneth McVay, OBC (kmcvay@no-spam >>Subject: Re: I can't believe this >>Newsgroups: alt.revisionism >>Date: 2001-02-22 17:20:07 PST >>
>>But then, as the Tampa drunk would say, you knew that.
>>
>><end>
>>
>>The above was in reference to Mr. Matt Giwer.
>>
>>Again- Canadian tax payers- do you wish to subsidize Ken McVay?
>>
>> Doc Tavish >>---
>>"Why don't you filthy swine stop tormenting me with your libel? Now >>even that 'ole "Nazi"-hunter, Ken McVay, is assaulting me with his propagandized
>>lies." -- Martin S. Singleton >>Archived around: 8 Feb 1995 20:25:19 GMT >>http://www.cs.ruu.nl/wais/html/na-dir/net-legends-faq/part2.html >>
>> --digsig >> Authentic Doc Tavish >> Chyeer+xvAMg6mRtq2niuMN+bMnEkGsy0ShVPm2xATn >> 9u0tiFsEAFt47Bw1LDGBfz9G5tfqiGL+rIF8UWr9
>> 4Gu2vR73xxnnHMNfiIQhtvysThNplaok+9SkUmgHA

From: sailor572001@no-spam (sailor57)

Subject: Re: WWW.NIZKOR.ORG IS A TAX SCAM AND YOU, THE TAX PAYER, ARE FOOTING THE BILL!....R_13

Date: 3 Jul 2003 21:19:13 -0700

"Ken McVay" <kmcvay@no-spam> wrote in message news:<be231q0orq@no-spam>...
> "Disgusted" <unknown@no-spam> wrote in message > news:o7p8gv0mqj3l9ie3k7uqkk7l8ojleojlcu@no-spam > > http://nizkor.org/hweb/people/g/grosvenor-william/make-my-year.html > > Great link, Bill!

Listen up, Ken.With all the allegations of criminal behavior, fraud and sexual misconduct idiots like Grosvenor and the BellevilleFreeloader publicly throw at you, there has to be a way you can sue these bastards. Can't you prove any sort of financial loss as a result of their fucking lies? I know the USA is very stingy with damages in tort actions, but how about Canada? Canada appears to penalize some kinds of speech. Have you ever checked with a Canadian lawyer on this? I know very little about Canadian law, since I went to law school in the USA.

From: Siegfried Reinhardt Tavische (t-a---vi-sh--8@no-spam)

Subject: Re: WWW.NIZKOR.ORG IS A TAX SCAM AND YOU, THE TAX PAYER, ARE FOOTING THE BILL!....R_13

Date: 4 Jul 2003 10:58:37 GMT

On Thu, 03 Jul 2003 17:23:39 -0600, <hne9gv8q6pd353pmr1mo9sptehokjrok90@no-spam>

Ken McVay <KenMcVay@no-spam> wrote:

>So what?

What about this?

----NIZKOR.ORG Director Ken McVay's Numerous Lies Regarding His Funding----
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=07qc8vguuom77pvmugliksb3dmdf8pp82r%404ax.com&rnum=6

Subject: Did NIZKOR.ORG Director Ken McVay Pay Tax On Those $50k+ Donations He

Denies Receiving From the San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund Message-ID: <07qc8vguuom77pvmugliksb3dmdf8pp82r@no-spam>

Date: 30 Mar 2003 03:49:22 GMT

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=453fevk7jgu8ctdt45a4coabbfgo9k5dns%404ax.com&rnum=1

Subject: Article on Ken McVay _mcvay@no-spam (Also Helps Prove He's a

Liar) R_0611

Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 15:20:32 -0500

Message-ID: <453fevk7jgu8ctdt45a4coabbfgo9k5dns@no-spam>

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=67qc8v8192tumoaivq4joitsquts3t5bs8%404ax.com&rnum=7

Subject: NIZKOR.ORG Director Ken McVay Caught Lying About San Antonio

Connection! (Those Two U.S. Servers!) V2.0

Date: 30 Mar 2003 03:49:12 GMT

Message-ID: <67qc8v8192tumoaivq4joitsquts3t5bs8@no-spam>

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=rhao2v4fbuij94mcmi6sicj73sa4eifsns%404ax.com&rnum=1

Subject: Nizkor LHR Fund; Just Another Self Serving FUND Like the Nizkor

Endowment and Trust Funds?

Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 10:56:49 -0600

Message-ID: <rhao2v4fbuij94mcmi6sicj73sa4eifsns@no-spam>

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=3e060868_1%40news2.uncensored-news.com&rnum=1

Subject: Is NIZKOR Running a Self Serving Endowment Fund Scam?

Message-ID: <3e060868_1@no-spam>

Date: 22 Dec 2002 18:46:15 GMT

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=3e0608d2_1%40news2.uncensored-news.com&rnum=1

Subject: NIZKOR.ORG and B'nai Brith's Apparent Funding Kick Backs and Tax Scam

Message-ID: <3e0608d2_1@no-spam>

Date: 22 Dec 2002 18:48:04 GMT

B'nai Brith also funded communist David Lethbridge:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=8hqsdv4c67ida5vp7bfdl9f9rt8cj405hd%404ax.com&rnum=1

Subject: Tax Exempt Religious Org (B'nai Brith) Gave Communist Financial and

Moral Support Message-ID: <8hqsdv4c67ida5vp7bfdl9f9rt8cj405hd@no-spam>

Date: 4 Jun 2003 21:52:32 GMT

______________________________________________________________________
Posted Via Uncensored-News.Com - Still Only $9.95 - http://www.uncensored-news.com
<><><><><><><> The Worlds Uncensored News Source <><><><><><><><>

From: Sean Cyril O'Tavish (SCO'Tavish@no-spam)

Subject: Re: WWW.NIZKOR.ORG IS A TAX SCAM AND YOU, THE TAX PAYER, ARE FOOTING THE BILL!....R_13

Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2003 07:04:42 -0500

On 3 Jul 2003 21:19:13 -0700, <aca9dd48.0307032019.5e85f56b@no-spam>
sailor572001@no-spam (sailor57) wrote:

>Xxxxxxx
Seeing how people like to post where I live then I will post where the people live who made such info public in the first place!
Sara Salzman http://www.westword.com/issues/11209/4/image.gif 4015 S Killarney Way Aurora, Colorado 80013
I am being harassed by having my confidential information being posted along with death threats, forged child porn ads being posted which give out my address
etc., having phoney sex offender lists posted which give out my address, having magazine and catalog subscriptions forged in my identity etc. FOR A FACT it was Yale F. Edeiken and Yale F. Edeiken alone who subpoenaed my confidential info from my ISP and made the subpoenaed info public-- now let him receive justice under the Law of Moses:
Just as has been done to me and is still being done to me and solely because of Yale F. Edeiken exclusively I will apply the LAW he claims to observe to him:

Leviticus 24:19-20 :: New International Version (NIV)
19 If anyone injures his neighbor, whatever he has done must be done to him: 20 fracture for fracture, eye for eye, tooth for tooth. As he has injured the other, so he is to be injured.
Yale F. Edeiken 465 W Linden St Allentown PA 18102-3453
Tel 610 435-9820

Source: Public Knowledge:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=39A60D74.40A0B998%40israelmail.com.xx&rnum=2

Message-ID: <39A60D74.40A0B998@no-spam>
If Yale does not like getting back in kind what he has dished out in kind under the Law of Moses then he should either:
1) Re-file his nut case lawsuit in the proper jurisdiction and get charged with numerous criminal counts of perjury and legal system abuse OR 2) Encourage his THUG allies to stop harassing me and invading my privacy!
The choice is his!

From: Sara Salzman (catamont@no-spam)

Subject: More from Dogpatch

Date: 06 Jul 2003 15:50:14 GMT

In article <c24ggv800mn3oaff1sis5jec50dd2sbgli@no-spam>,
Jew-Hating T. Cornpone <SCO'Tavish@no-spam> wrote:

Stonewall Jackson got his name by standing firm in the fray.
Who was known to all his men as good ol' "Paper Mache?"
Why it was Jubilation T. Cornpone; Old "Tattered and torn - pone."
Jubilation T. Cornpone, he really saved the day!

-- First in war, first in peace, first to holler "I QUIT!"
Jubilation T. Cornpone, Scott Bradbury's obvious mentor.

From: fenimoore01@no-spam (James Fenimoore)

Subject: Re: More from Dogpatch

Date: 7 Jul 2003 00:18:01 GMT

In article <catamont-21727E.09495906072003@no-spam>, catamont@no-spam says...
>
>In article <c24ggv800mn3oaff1sis5jec50dd2sbgli@no-spam>,
>Jew-Hating T. Cornpone <SCO'Tavish@no-spam> wrote:
>
>Stonewall Jackson got his name by standing firm in the fray.
>Who was known to all his men as good ol' "Paper Mache?"
>Why it was Jubilation T. Cornpone; Old "Tattered and torn - pone."
>Jubilation T. Cornpone, he really saved the day!
>
>-- >First in war, first in peace, first to holler "I QUIT!"
> Jubilation T. Cornpone, Scott Bradbury's obvious mentor.

Why do you remind me of a grunting sow?

Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2003 01:03:55 GMT

From: Count 0f Monty CriscoTabishe (Count_of_Monty_Crisco_Tabishe@no-spam)

Subject: JEWS LIBEL GREAT GENERAL CORNPONE!! Re: More from Dogpatch

On 06 Jul 2003 15:50:14 GMT, Sara Salzman <catamont@no-spam>
wrote:

>In article <c24ggv800mn3oaff1sis5jec50dd2sbgli@no-spam>,
>Jew-Hating T. Cornpone <SCO'Tavish@no-spam> wrote:
>
>Stonewall Jackson got his name by standing firm in the fray.
>Who was known to all his men as good ol' "Paper Mache?"

It is because you commie bastards put pocket weasels in the pouch with his orders. That's why you lie about him being "Paper Mache:" your pocket weasels shredded his vital documents!!

Now you need to keep telling lies about this fine upstanding soldier.

From: "Gord McFee" (gord.mcfee@no-spam)

Subject: Re: More from Dogpatch

Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2003 02:42:06 GMT

In news:beae7o$2hcnh$2@no-spam James Fenimoore <fenimoore01@no-spam> typed:

> In article <catamont-21727E.09495906072003@no-spam>,
> catamont@no-spam says...
>>
>> In article <c24ggv800mn3oaff1sis5jec50dd2sbgli@no-spam>,
>> Jew-Hating T. Cornpone <SCO'Tavish@no-spam> wrote:
>>
>> Stonewall Jackson got his name by standing firm in the fray.
>> Who was known to all his men as good ol' "Paper Mache?"
>> Why it was Jubilation T. Cornpone; Old "Tattered and torn - pone."
>> Jubilation T. Cornpone, he really saved the day!
>>
>> --
>> First in war, first in peace, first to holler "I QUIT!"
>> Jubilation T. Cornpone, Scott Bradbury's obvious mentor.
>
> Why do you remind me of a grunting sow?

Because you have a pig fetish?

-- Gord McFee I'll write no line before its time
Visit the Holocaust History Project http://www.holocaust-history.org

From: Brian Blank (BrianBlank@no-spam)

Subject: Re: WWW.NIZKOR.ORG IS A TAX SCAM AND YOU, THE TAX PAYER, ARE FOOTING THE BILL!....R_13

Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2003 10:59:28 -0600

From: Paul Kneisel (tallpaul@no-spam)

Subject: Re: WWW.NIZKOR.ORG IS A TAX SCAM AND YOU, THE TAX PAYER, ARE FOOTING THE BILL!....R_13

Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 08:11:10 -0600

On Sun, 13 Jan 2002 22:16:42 -0600, IIIII <-t-a--v-i-sh-4--8@no-spam Remove_ Hyphens 2_ Mail>
wrote:

>From April 25, 2001

>Straight from CCRA: "we have no record of a registered charity by the name of >Nizkor.org."
> --
> THIS POST TO BE FILED WITH CCRA
>FOREWORD: Canadian revenue payers you need to contact CCRA and ask them how a >website is able to receive "exempt donations" when it is neither a registered >charity or a Non Profit Organization. A letter (included below) from CCRA >advises me they never heard of NIZKOR.ORG so you all should be asking how Nizkor
>is offering: "Donations over $10.00 will receive a Canadian tax receipt" when it
>is nothing more than a website!

>It's YOUR tax dollars financing a man who pays himself to defame private >citizens!

>http://www.nizkor.org/funding.shtml >Click here to learn how to make an exempt donation (Canadian receipt)
>
>CCRA said: "we have no record of a registered charity by the name of >Nizkor.org." (Letter included below) Only registered charities are allowed to >issue "Canadian receipts"!!

>"A registered charity is a charity that has specifically applied to the Canada >Customs and Revenue Agency for registration and has been accepted as such. A >registered charity can issue charitable receipts for tax purposes." CCRA rule >included below with web link for verification!

> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

>From: Charity webmail <Charities-Bienfaisance@no-spam>
>Sender: "Langdon, Blaine" <Blaine.Langdon@no-spam>
>To: Scott Bradbury <xxxxxx@no-spam>
>Subject: Registered charity question.
>Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 16:23:26 -0500
>X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19)
>
>Thank you for your e-mail.
>
>The Charities Directorate of the Canada Customs and Revenue Agency is >responsible for the registration and compliance of charities in Canada.
>These organizations are similar to "exempt organizations" as are registered in >the United States. However, we have no record of a registered charity by the >name of Nizkor.org.
>
>Additionally, due to the confidentiality provisions of the Canadian Income >Tax Act, I am unable to disclose information concerning a particular >organization's tax affairs, including measures taken or to be taken by the >Department resulting from complaints. However, I wish to assure you that all >complaints received by the Department are treated seriously and are fully >investigated, where appropriate.
>
>Finally, the annual information returns of Canadian registered charities are >available to the public. However, as you will note from the above,
>Nizkor.org is not a registered charity. The non-profit information return >which you describe is not available to the public.
>
>Thank you for bringing your concerns to our attention.
>
>Sincerely,
>
>Blaine Langdon >Charities Directorate >
> ~~~~END~~~~
>
>LURKERS here is how Ken McVay and his Nizkor is robbing you:
>
>Folks I am getting CCRA's attention and you all should be putting forth the >effort to find out just how and why a "website" receives "exempt donations" and
>the proprietor "pays himself" from such donations and also his website has >issued "tax receipts." This is a scam which bilks the Canadian Tax Payer!
>
>LOOK!
>
>http://www.ccra-adrc.gc.ca/tax/nonprofit/menu-e.html >Non-profit organizations - Canadian Customs and Revenue Agency >
>http://www.ccra-adrc.gc.ca/
>Canadian Customs and Revenue Agency >
>Remember Canadian Tax Payers- It is YOU who is subsidizing Nizkor! Do you want >your tax dollar subsidizing this web site?
>
>http://groups.google.com/groups?q=Nizkor=&rnum=16&seld=909625816&ic=1&filter=0
>From: kmcvay@no-spam (Kenneth McVay, OBC)
>Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,bc.general,can.general,tor.general,on.general >Subject: Re: ATTENTION NIZKOR: Income Tax Guide to the Non-Profit Organization >(NPO) Information Return Form T1044
>Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 01:52:00 +0000 (UTC)
>Organization: The Nizkor Project, http://www.nizkor.org/
>Message-ID: <99oro0$259r$1@no-spam>
>References: <eghvbtgm6r3tsa0efu2o9rl1ossu4v8o2c@no-spam>
><3abfe742$0$195@no-spam>
>
>On Tue, 27 Mar 2001 01:52:00 +0000 (UTC), kmcvay@no-spam (Kenneth >McVay, OBC) wrote:
>
>>Poor Mr. Bradbury... if he had a brain, he would be dangerous.
>>
>>Nizkor is neither an NPO nor a Charity. Nizkor is a website.
>
>Glad to see you making that a public record. Care to explain how a website not >being either an "NPO nor a Charity" can operate as you do and issue tax >receipts? No personal attacks now McVay because I WILL HOLD YOUR FEET TO THE >FIRE! I think CCRA would be interested in what you just declared too!
>
>>Paranoia is a terrible thing, particularly when coupled with Mr.
>>Bradbury's abysmal ignorance.
>
>Personal attack is all people have when they can't argue their position! Has >everyone ever noticed that trait in people who have something to hide?
>
>Why do you accept "exempt donations" and issue tax receipts you bold faced liar
>and sleaze bag? Answer that instead of making with the wise cracks.
>
>You are NOT allowed by law to grant tax receipts according CCRA statutes which >you so conveniently deleted. The more you act like a pompous arrogant ass- the >more it makes me want to put you in your place.
>
>YOU ARE A LIAR!
>
>Canadian revenue payers take note of this sleazer! He's being subsidized at your
>expense!
>
>What sleaze bag McVay deleted because he doesn't want to deal with it:
>
>http://www.ccra-adrc.gc.ca/E/pub/tg/t4117eq/t4117eq.html#P131_12645
>
>Income Tax Guide to the Non-Profit Organization (NPO) Information Return >Includes Form T1044
>Visually impaired persons can get information on services available to them, and
>can order publications in braille or large print, or on audio cassette or >computer diskette, by calling 1-800-267-1267 weekdays from 8:15 a.m. to 5:00
>p.m. (Eastern Time).
>
>[...]
>
>An NPO described in paragraph 149(1)(l) of the Income Tax Act is a club,
>society, or association that is organized and operated solely for:
>
>social welfare;
>civic improvement;
>pleasure or recreation;
>or any other purpose except profit.
>
>Also, no part of the income of these organizations can be payable to or >otherwise available for the personal benefit of any proprietor, member, or >shareholder, unless the proprietor, member, or shareholder was a club,
>society,or association whose primary purpose was to promote amateur athletics in
>Canada.
>
><<I don't think Nizkor promotes amateur athletics in Canada! Please note that >the law states above: "no part of the income of these organizations can be >payable to or otherwise available for the personal benefit of any proprietor.."

>yet Ken McVay is the proprietor or director of Nizkor (a website) and he is on >public record (also shown below) as responding to this question: "Does Ken McVay
>pay himself a salary for his work for Nizkor?" with "Yup." Plainly this violates
>the above and seeing how Nizkor operates as a back room operation from the >"proprietor's" own house (proven below) this operation should be very >questionable! Finally note that Ken McVay announced in a public posting above:
>"Nizkor is neither an NPO nor a Charity. Nizkor is a website." How does a >"website" warrant receiving "exempt donations"? Doc Tavish Comments>>
>
>Distinguishing non-profit organizations from registered charities >An NPO is not a registered charity. A registered charity is a charity that has >specifically applied to the Canada Customs and Revenue Agency for registration >and has been accepted as such.
>
>A registered charity can issue charitable receipts for tax purposes. An NPO does
>not have to register either federally or provincially to maintain its privileged
>tax status.
>
>Generally, registered charities also have to disburse 80% of the funds for which
>they issued charitable receipts on their own charitable activities or as gifts >to qualified donees. NPOs cannot issue tax receipts for donations or membership
>fees contributed, and they are not required to disburse a specified percentage >of their earnings.
>
><End of CCRA web page>
>
>Notice what CCRA said about "issu[ing] charitable receipts for tax purposes"?
>Look at McVay's operation and see if it complies with the law stated above:
>"NPOs cannot issue tax receipts for donations.." yet Ken McVay's very own NIZKOR
>page says: "Donations over $10.00 will receive a Canadian tax receipt." Ken >McVay also claims that NIZKOR is NOT a charity >as shown down further in this post.
>
>http://www.nizkor.org/funding.shtml >Click here to learn how to make an exempt donation (Canadian receipt)
>http://www.nizkor.org/league-donation.html >
> The Nizkor Project is pleased to announce its cooperative affiliation >with the League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada. The League is a >national volunteer organization dedicated to combatting antisemitism,
>racism and bigotry, and to promoting human rights for all Canadians.
> Donors wishing to use their VISA or MASTER CARD for their donation may >call B'nai Brith directly, at 1-416-633-6224, and advise the receptionist >that they wish to make a donation to the Nizkor Project; If you prefer,
>you can print this form and send to:
>
>The Nizkor Project >c/o >The League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada >15 Hove Street >Toronto, Ontario M3H 4Y8
>
>Name:________________________________________
>Street Address:________________________________________________
>City_________________State/Province__________Postal Code_______
>E-Mail Address:_________________________________
>Amount Enclosed: $___________
>
>Please make your donations payable to "The League for Human Rights of >B'nai Brith Canada," and add the words "Nizkor Trust Fund" to the cheque's >memo section. A portion of amounts donated to the Trust Fund is used to >build the Nizkor Endowment Fund. If you prefer that all of your donation >be invested for Nizkor's future needs, please earmark your cheque or draft >with the notation 'For The Nizkor Endowment Fund Only. (All bequests >should be to the 'Nizkor Endowment Fund, Care of The League for Human >Rights of B'nai Brith Canada'.)
>
>Donations over $10.00 will receive a Canadian tax receipt.
>[#0235903-43-13]
>
>-----------------------
>
>Notice what is said above? Look what Ken Mcvay has said not too long ago:
>
>http://groups.google.com/groups?q=charity=&rnum=4&seld=955885050&ic=1
>From: Kenneth McVay, OBC (kmcvay@no-spam >Subject: Re: JEWS DUMPED FAG MCVAY!!!
>Newsgroups: alt.revisionism >Date: 2000-12-05 13:46:34 PST >
>"McVay/Nizkor" has never issued tax receipts of any sort, Mr.
>Grosvenor, so it's rather silly to suggest we got "caught at it."
>
><end>
>
>Notice how McVay says one thing and then says another? His very own "website"
>says: "Donations over $10.00 will receive a Canadian tax receipt."
>http://www.nizkor.org/league-donation.html >Yet in the post just above McVay said: "McVay/Nizkor" has never issued tax >receipts of any sort, Mr. Grosvenor, so it's rather silly to suggest we got >"caught at it." McVay is a LIAR anyway you look at it! I provided the links to >all of my proofs so that you all, the concerned citizenry may verify my claims.

>
>It is also plain that McVay does not claim Nizkor to be a charitable >organization as shown here:
>
>http://groups.google.com/groups?q=charitable=&rnum=1&seld=943267125&ic=1
>From: Kenneth McVay, OBC (kmcvay@no-spam >Subject: Re: Is Ken McVay's WWW.NIZKOR.ORG A Sham Which Gets its Director >Spending Money? R 2
>Date: 2001-01-06 00:00:08 PST >
>In article <8kjd5t0el7tbd9lv4o7tsg7hii3qmsgns9@no-spam>,
>Doc Tavish <doc_tavishREMOVE@no-spam> wrote:
>>We know that the Nizkor website relies on charitable donations in order to >>survive. We also accept that any organization whose survival depends on >>charitable donations should make its records open to the public. Will Ken >>McVay answer these questions as he is the director of Nizkor!
>
>How does Mr. Bradbury "know" these things?
>How does Mr. Bradbury "know" that Nizkor is a "charitable >organization?" (Can he show that anyone from Nizkor has ever claimed to >be such an organization?)
>
><end>
>
>Well now we know Nizkor is not a "charitable organization" so it has to be an >NPO?! So why does Ken McVay's NPO declare at its web page: "Donations over >$10.00 will receive a Canadian tax receipt" which would be in violation of:
>"NPOs cannot issue tax receipts for donations" but Ken McVay lies to a person >who's an object of his smear campaign: "McVay/Nizkor" has never issued tax >receipts of any sort.." Then again KcVay admitted higher up in this post:
>"Nizkor is neither an NPO nor a Charity. Nizkor is a website." See how NIZKOR >skirts all criteria of the tax laws?
>
>Does Nizkor or does Nizkor not look crooked?
>
>Seeing how Ken McVay's Nizkor accepts "exempt donation[s]" it would be >interesting to see why the Canadian Government actually approves an >organization with such tax status to operate under the conditions Ken >McVay's Nizkor does. To this very day Ken McVay will not answer these >questions:
>
>1) What is the tax number of Nizkor?
>2) What is the physical address of Nizkor?
>3) What is the phone number of Nizkor?
>4) Where can one find the organizational papers for Nizkor?
> a) How many people compose the Nizkor staff?
> b) What are the financial responsibilities of Nizkor?
>5) What is the evidence offered that Nizkor is authorized to > solicit tax free contributions?
>6) How much money does Nizkor Org receive yearly as charitable donations?
>7) You show below that you pay yourself-- what is your yearly pay?
>
>Subject: Re: How much of a cut does the B'nai Brith get from Nizkor?
>Date: 05/08/2000
>Author: Kenneth McVay, OBC <kmcvay@no-spam>
>
>>f) Does Ken McVay pay himself a salary for his work for Nizkor?
>
>Yup - I also appreciate revenue from public speaking and site advertising.
>
>~~~~~~~End Archival Excerpt~~~~~~
>
>8) Is Nizkor proper (it's office and main facilities) located in a back >room of your own residence as this says?
>http://www.Xgeocities.com/dcjarviks/Idler/vIn15.htmlX >(Remove the X's to view the site, this is to help prevent McVay from >spamming the search engines. Link active March 24, 2001)
>
>"A Voyage to Nanaimo-- It takes two hours to cross the Georgia Strait by >ferry from Vancouver, British Columbia, another half-hour by jitney from >the Nanaimo terminal to reach the home of Kenneth N. McVay, webmaster for >The Nizkor Project . The address is an ordinary suburban split-level in a >middle-class neighborhood. There is nothing distinctive about its >location. .... I am taken to a back room, filled with computer equipment,
>monitors, and books... Seated in front of the array is McVay, apparently a >50-something computer nerd. He is tall, thin, with short hair and glasses,
>wired to the world through his ISP. The Nizkor project which McVay runs >from this room in the back of his house... " <END>
>
>A question for all reading this:
>How many organizations which receive charitable contributions operate from >the backroom of the director's home? He claims to be non-profit and it >appears that he would have a low overhead-- so how much money does Ken >McVay receive for his backroom operation? Why won't Ken McVay make public >his budget?
>
>9) What sort of legitimate organization keeps files on private citizens >and publicly defames people on its "hit list" as Nizkor does?
>This link shows how he keeps files on private citizens:
>http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/
>Here are some links to files in which Ken McVay through his Nizkor defames >private citizens:
>http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/ftp.py?people//g/grosvenor.william >http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/ftp.py?people//g/giwer.matt >http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/ftp.py?people//b/bradbury.scott ><<the above link has files concerning a lawsuit in which a final decision >has not been made and most if not all of the complaints have been proven >false and furthermore the plaintiff implicated himself as being a person >who made criminal incitements to murder which are currently in "que" to be >investigated. See these links:
>http://groups.google.com/groups?q=digsig=&rnum=1&seld=914072558&ic=1
>"John Morris Condones Criminal Acts By Mentally Disturbed Allentown >Attorney Yale F. Edeiken.."
>http://groups.google.com/groups?q=digsig=&rnum=1&seld=913445492&ic=1
>"Canada's Very Own Nizkor's Lies, Smears, and Defamation Answered"
>http://groups.google.com/groups?q=digsig=&rnum=5&seld=921850669&ic=1
>"Pathological Liar Tubby Edeiken's Perjured Fabricated Evidence"
>To continually propagate information which has been proven false,
>perjurious, and fabricated and by a person who incited murder against >the person he has litigated is most deplorable BUT this is what Ken >McVay's Nizkor does with "exempt donation[s]." An organization such as >Nizkor would not be able to operate in this manner in the United States >and perhaps this is why Ken McVay left the United States to operate from >Canada!>>
>
>Time will tell. Those interested in finding out why Nizkor can operate in this >manner should contact: http://www.ccra-adrc.gc.ca/contact/
>Which is the Canada Customs and Revenue Agency.
>
>Nizkor would not be allowed to operate in the manner it does in America and >perhaps this is why Ken McVay, director of Nizkor, diverts attention from having
>an American money pot!
>
>LOOK!
>
>http://groups.google.com/groups?q=San+Antonio=&rnum=1&seld=943818623&ic=1
>From: Kenneth McVay, OBC (kmcvay@no-spam >Subject: STILL Waiting for Donnie..... (Or "Bradbury: Wrong Again")
>Newsgroups: alt.revisionism >Date: 2001-01-04 16:32:12 PST >
>Mr. Bradbury, wishing to demonstrate how ill-equipped he is to deal with >evidence of any sort, offers the following information:
>
>====================== Begin Bradbury Quote ========================
>
>[...]
>
>For those who are curious, here the details of ><http://www.geektools.com/cgi-bin/proxy.cgi?query=MAZAL.ORG>
>the neutral people behind Mr Mazal:
>His above website is registered by the >"San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund" c/o BASIC of >600 Sandau Suite 400,
>San Antonio, TX 78216, in Texas, USA.
>The billing contact is Mr Harry Mazal of the same address:
>San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund c/o BASIC,
>600 Sandau, Suite 400, San Antonio, TX 78216,
>and their phone number is 210-377-2422.
>Somebody might like to check them out in more details. We will be >happy in the spirit of openness to post all that we are told of >these people. It is the old Nizkor gang at work again.
>
> ~~~~END~~~~
>
>My reply to Ken McVay and other Nizkook heckles:
>
>On 3 Jan 2001 21:01:01 GMT, kmcvay@no-spam (Kenneth McVay, OBC)
>wrote:
>
>>In article <szkofxojqyf.fsf@no-spam>,
>>Patrick L. Humphrey <patrick@no-spam> wrote:
>>>Jeff F. Davis <jeff_f_davis@no-spam> writes:
>>>
>>>>Start pulling up as many of Ken McVay's denials of having Nizkor >>>>operations in Texas from the archives. I would do it but I have to go to >>>>work now. Rev is digging them up also as we speak.
>
>>>Of course, Donnie -- so you can spam them a few hundred times, or produce a >>>cut-and-paste forgery like you did last year with that newswire article you >>>ripped off from Reuters and massaged it to make it look like I'd been >>>arrested in a city I didn't visit until five months after the story's date.
>>>Who do you think you're fooling this time?
>
>>It should be interesting waiting for Donnie to produce evidence that >>any such "operation" exists. I figure I should be able to work through >>several million additional web pages while we wait.....
>
>I just proved you to be a liar Ken McVay with the information posted >above! Notice the info is fairly current and is not outdated by any means!
>Your organization is named! Care to deny it now liar?
>
>>He seems to have a problem with his reading comprehension :-)
>
>How does your reading comprehension interpret the info below? (snicker >snicker)
>
>Whois: mazal.org >Server: -automatic-
>
>Registrant:
>San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund c/o BASIC (MAZAL2-DOM)
> 600 Sandau Suite 400
> San Antonio, TX 78216 US >
>====================== End Bradbury Quote ========================
>
>What Mr. Bradbury has failed to demonstrate is that The Nizkor Project, which I
>direct, has any association whatsoever with the "San Antonio Area Foundation -
>Nizkor Fund."
>
>That is because Mr. Bradbury is not very bright.
>
> The Nizkor Project has no operations of any sort whatsoever within the United
>States Neither The Nizkor Project nor Ken McVay has ever received any money >from the "San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund"
>
>For further information, review the file which Mr. Ellis and Mr. Bradbury >continue to ignore:
>http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/m/mcvay.ken/2000/San_Antonio_Area_Foundation_donation
>
>I am compelled once again remind Mr. Ellis, and thus Mr. Bradbury, that my >challenge stands:
>
>If you have any _evidence_ that The Nizkor Project has _any_ sort of >organization in the United States, produce it.
>
>While waiting for Don Ellis (or anyone else in the Wading Pool) to >produce evidence that there exists some sort of "Nizkor Organization"
>in San Antonio, Texas, I have archived 64 new files.
>
>1,999,936 to go.
>
>http://www.nizkor.org/ftp-whats-new.cgi >
><<YAWN>>
>
> ~~End of GOOGLE Archive~~
>
>See how McVay answers proven fact with name call and personal insult?
>BTW everyone click this link and it will still show that there is still a Nizkor
>Fund in San Antonio, Texas.
><http://www.geektools.com/cgi-bin/proxy.cgi?query=MAZAL.ORG>
>
>I just clicked it and it said the same as what I posted above and it did claim:

>"Database last updated on 30-Mar-2001 15:11:00 EST."
>
>I guess Ken McVay will tell us that there are two Nizkors now!?
>
>What can you expect from a liar and a defamer of men?
>
>Canadian tax payers- you're subsidizing this sleazer!
>
>Here is your money being used to finance this:
>
>Sample of Ken McVay's (funded through B'nai Brith) defamations:
>
>http://groups.google.com/groups?q=digsig=&rnum=1&seld=909770571&ic=1
>
>On 14 Jun 2000 04:48:42 GMT, kmcvay@no-spam (Kenneth McVay, OBC) wrote:
>
>>In article <0af6a0a0.a9d5d6ab@no-spam>,
>>BIRKENAU <michael872NOmiSPAM@no-spam> wrote:
>>>Why interesting? Brought to you courtesy of Mr.
>>>Winkler.
>
>>Nope. Only one idiot that adds Winkler's name to his "anonymous" posts, and >>that's William Grosvenor.... it's most likely one of his bits of vomit - he >>is a well known hatemonger and documented liar. See >>http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/g/grosvenor-william >
>Let us use the example link Ken McVay gave above:
><http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/g/grosvenor-william>
>
>File Name Size Date >
>about-grosvenor 26.6K Feb 21 1999
>background-grosvenor 18.3K Jun 04 1996
>background-gruber 4.6K Nov 27 1997
>gruber-10q 13.7K Apr 24 2000
>gruber-10q.pl 13.0K Jan 01 1999
>
>[...]
>
>From: kmcvay@no-spam (Kenneth McVay, OBC)
>Newsgroups: alt.revisionism >Subject: Re: Question for Hilary Ostrov >Date: 5 Jan 2001 19:07:34 GMT >Organization: The Nizkor Project, http://www.nizkor.org/
>Message-ID: <93561m$dbm$1@no-spam>
>
>On 5 Jan 2001 19:07:34 GMT, kmcvay@no-spam (Kenneth McVay, OBC)
>wrote:
>
>>In article <3A562749.981FA7@no-spam>,
>>Buck Turgidson <deppitybob@no-spam> wrote:
>>
>>>"Jeff F. Davis" wrote:
>>
>>[...]
>>
>>>> I am not sure but the B'nai Brith (which controls Nizkor by the way >>>> rather Ken admits this or not) is so powerful in Canada they had the >>>> nerve in a Canadian court that they should be able to illegally harass >>>> people because of the nature of the holocaust and all the good they have >>>> done to fight racism.
>
>>>Looks like Li'l Tommy doesn't bogart HIS joints!
>
>I'd have guessed Mid-Hootch Giwerundean, actually. We used to see a >lot more of it here, but I gather the Sterno shortage of '98 led to a >steep decline.
>
>Of course, Donnie could simply have been sniffing gasoline.
>
><end>
>
>From: kmcvay@no-spam (Kenneth McVay, OBC)
>Newsgroups: alt.revisionism >Subject: Re: Just In to the Tavish Hotline!...
>Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 21:37:02 +0000 (UTC)
>Organization: The Nizkor Project, http://www.nizkor.org/
>Message-ID: <9a2u9u$19dg$1@no-spam>
>
>On Fri, 30 Mar 2001 21:37:02 +0000 (UTC), <9a2u9u$19dg$1@no-spam>
>kmcvay@no-spam (Kenneth McVay, OBC) wrote:
>
>[...]
>
>>I understand that Bradbury may need money to buy an old trailer after >>his house is turned into a Jewish daycare center....
>>
>>I guess there's no way it'll ever be kosher, tho, what with all that >>lard...
>>
>>--
>>"...I note that on the few occasions of which I am aware where purveyors of >>anti-Semitic propaganda have endeavoured to justify their materials in >>court on the facts and the merits, they have been singularly unsuccessful..."
>> (http://www2.ca.nizkor.org/hweb/people/s/scully-olga/reason.html)
>
>Anyone perusing: http://groups.google.com/advanced_group_search >and using Nizkor Ken McVay's e-mail address >kmcvay@no-spam entered into GOOGLE'S >"Author Return only messages where the author is:" search now and using key >words such as Sterno Giwerundean Ignoramus etc. can see how Canadian >tax payers have subsidized for years a "website" which engages in petty attacks
>against private citizens.
>
>More examples:
>
>From: kmcvay@no-spam (Kenneth McVay, OBC)
>Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,bc.general,can.general,tor.general,on.general >Subject: Re: ATTENTION NIZKOR: Income Tax Guide to the Non-Profit Organization >(NPO) Information Return Form T1044
>Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 01:52:00 +0000 (UTC)
>Organization: The Nizkor Project, http://www.nizkor.org/
>Message-ID: <99oro0$259r$1@no-spam>
>References: <eghvbtgm6r3tsa0efu2o9rl1ossu4v8o2c@no-spam>
><3abfe742$0$195@no-spam>
>
>On Tue, 27 Mar 2001 01:52:00 +0000 (UTC), kmcvay@no-spam (Kenneth >McVay, OBC) wrote:
>
>>Poor Mr. Bradbury... if he had a brain, he would be dangerous.
>>
>>Nizkor is neither an NPO nor a Charity. Nizkor is a website.
>
><end>
>
>I asked why should a "website" be awarding tax receipts and I get personally >attacked!
>
>More examples of either keeping files on private citizens and/or defaming them:

>
>http://groups.google.com/groups?q=bonehead=&rnum=1&seld=911008830&ic=1
>From: Kenneth McVay, OBC (kmcvay@no-spam >Subject: Re: Neya Kulturny proltariat >Date: 2001-03-23 07:57:07 PST >
>Followups to Giwer trolls should be redirected to Mr. Giwer's special >newsgroup, alt.bonehead.matt-giwer, where they will be appropriately >ignored (the group has no users - it's just a convenient toilet for >Matt's vomitus). If your site does not carry alt.bonehead.matt-giwer,
>redirect non-Holocaust articles to alt.politics.white-power,
>an equally vapid dumping ground for Giwerundian babblings.
>
><end>
>
>Same defamation and the same invitation to FLOOD other news groups can be seen >at these links too!
>http://groups.google.com/groups?q=bonehead=&rnum=2&seld=911187938&ic=1
>http://groups.google.com/groups?q=bonehead=&rnum=3&seld=914643309&ic=1
>http://groups.google.com/groups?q=bonehead=&rnum=4&seld=915710792&ic=1
>
>http://groups.google.com/groups?q=bonehead=&rnum=5&seld=916119887&ic=1
>From: Kenneth McVay, OBC (kmcvay@no-spam >Subject: Matt Giwer: disgusting troll >Newsgroups: talk.politics.mideast, soc.culture.british, soc.culture.canada,
>soc.culture.usa >Date: 2001-03-09 10:18:49 PST >
>In article <98b6av$3pt$1@no-spam>,
>William Black <black_william@no-spam> wrote:
>>
>>Roger Alexander <rlalexNOSPAM@no-spam> wrote in message >>news:3AA82DCD.2AB55FD1@no-spam >>> Mr. McVay is spamming the NG. He repeats this defamation of the poster >>> time after time after time, and since he has it on a file, it takes him >>> not time at all to put it forth. He is to be castigated for doing it,
>>> and if it continues I will take it up with his ISP.
>
>>But the shit Giwer needs persecuting, the truth is no defamation.
>
>Mr. Giwer isn't being persecuted, he's being exposed. He is, without >question, a troll of the worst sort, and, whether Mr. Alexander likes >it or not, I will continue to warn others.
>
><end>
>
>Canadian taxpayers- do you wish to subsidize Ken McVay attacking and defaming >private citizens? You currently are subsidizing McVay whether you all know it or
>not!
>
>http://groups.google.com/groups?q=bonehead=&rnum=13&seld=935054917&ic=1
>From: Kenneth McVay, OBC (kmcvay@no-spam >Subject: Re: The wacky adventures of Matt Giwer >Newsgroups: sci.skeptic, soc.history.ancient, alt.revisionism >Date: 2001-01-24 09:47:43 PST >
>In article <Orac-EFD9B7.12262624012001@no-spam>,
>Orac <Orac@no-spam> wrote:
>
>>Matty is lying, of course.
>
>Of course. That's what Mr. Giwer does. (With any luck at all, we may >be entertained with Full-Hootch Giwerundean during this thread, if the >Sterno holds out.)
>
><end>
>
>http://groups.google.com/groups?q=bonehead=&rnum=20&seld=978476551&ic=1
>From: Kenneth McVay, OBC (kmcvay@no-spam >Subject: Re: Matt Giwer -- troll and drunkard >Newsgroups: soc.history.ancient, alt.history.ancient-worlds, talk.origins,
>alt.revisionism >Date: 2000-10-11 08:40:15 PST >
>In article <39E4723C.437FE1FE@no-spam>,
>David Gehrig <zemblan@no-spam> wrote:
>
>[speaking to a troll]
>
>>Now, now, Matty, you know that the man who runs the site isn't Jewish >>and doesn't belong to the Anti-Defamation League. Why lie?
>
>Mr. Giwer is, as far as I can determine, a troller whose only >interest is in causing fights. While he can sound superficially >plausible, he has lied** about what has been said in exchanges (while >accusing others of lying), refused to document claims..
>
><end>
>
>The truth is Matt Giwer did not lie. Ken McVay's Nizkor is financed by "exempt >donations" funneled through B'nai Brith the mother organization of ADL as shown
>higher up in this post.
>
>http://groups.google.com/groups?q=sterno=&rnum=2&seld=979137702&ic=1
>From: Kenneth McVay, OBC (kmcvay@no-spam >Subject: Re: Gourd McFee >Newsgroups: alt.revisionism >Date: 2000-10-09 19:03:24 PST >
>In article <catamont-EB657B.19395709102000@no-spam>,
>Sara Salzman <catamont@no-spam> wrote:
>
>[...]
>
>[Some drunk wrote]
>
> [ What's more incredible is that this Susie thinks you have to count > whatever Gourd types have spent time at when all you have to do is > type in its name and there the number is. We can do the same thing > with "Susie" and get thousands and they would all be just like what > he/she/it has put out here. ]
>
>[an understandably perplexed human with a working mind asked...]
>
>I know the words are English, but what language is this?!
>
>>I believe it is Full-Hooch Giwerundian. A