In their current state, perhaps. Now, why am I arguing for re-education and
integration, instead of publicly-funded x, y and z? I wonder if it is
because what we are doing now is not effective. Hmm... let me think. <Note
to idiots: Beware of sarcasm>
Perhaps there is a better system than the ridiculous one we have now. Not
all government is bad, just government that tries to control people rather
than organize them.
<nshinede@no-spam> wrote in message
news:NUCJa.1897$xv.657@no-spam
> Ruddell and Falcon, that is certainly not a good post, and it is certainly
> not as "simple as that."
>
> The more taxpayer money we throw at this, like everything else governments
> do, the worse it gets. We have thrown millions, billions, of $$ into
"public
> housing" which now serves as dope shelters which the police have a very
hard
> time controling, "shelters" which operate mainly as places where down and
> out criminals pray on destitute people, and the really destitute won't
use,
> even during the worst winters, out of fear.
>
> The bottom line is, that governments are not good managers. It IS as
simple
> as that.
> "Ruddell" <ruddell'Elle-Kabong'@no-spam> wrote in message
> news:3EEE89A5.30506@no-spam
> >
> >
> > Falcon Kirtarania wrote:
> > > In those cases where it is possible to assist them to be productive.
> Those
> > > drunk hippies and bums probably could get education and work, if they
> tried
> > > hard enough - but if they cannot prove that either they will never
have
> the
> > > capacity to work no matter how hard they try (too old, etc.) or that
> they
> > > are getting work, they should not be elegible for welfare. It is as
> simple
> > > as that. We already pay enough tax to administrative costs, maybe
some
> of
> > > what we already pay could be chanelled off into this re-education
> system.
> > > Also, don't you think it is a good use of tax money, to make the bums
> get
> > > themselves off the streets? Or do you like the fact that they are
there
> and
> > > they steal and mug people for food? Not that all of them do, of
> course -
> > > but still, if you would put money into a homeless shelter, I don't see
> what
> > > you would have against supporting the re-education of those who are
> (because
> > > of lack of education) unable to provide for themselves.
> >
> >
> >
> > That was a good post Falcon, and yes. It is as
> > simple as that...
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > Dennis
> >
> >
> > Remove 'Elle-Kabong' to reply
> >
>
>
Tyler! A proud title, that! I've been called worse! Do you think they will
make us the next Ruby Ridge or Waco?
You know, these extreme left wing governments have shot up and burned two
"compounds" of "right wing extremists" now, . Willie, Silly Hillary, and Big
J Reno in charge, murdered all those families and children. Used tanks and
aircraft to do it!
We hav'nt done a thing, but were always called the "rednecks" with guns and
camo, waiting our chance to get them.
Based on reality, on facts, who are the real rednecks shooting up the
country, and killing the kids? Do you suppose thats why they want to ban
guns? They don't trust themselves with them?
"»Tylêr Dûrdên«" <t_durdre@no-spam> wrote in message
news:8xwIa.267999$Vi5.7068952@no-spam
>
>
> --
> http://www.bcrevolution.ca/
> "John Carrick" <jcarr@no-spam> wrote in message
> news:737fevcet0v1bdsrn66ftnrbkjce3lo4a3@no-spam
> > On Wed, 11 Jun 2003 13:51:49 GMT, <nshinede@no-spam> wrote:
> >
> > >Ya, well, John, when was the last time you gave your money to support
the
> > >"homeless," or anyone else?
> >
> > I recently donated $500 to "the Good Neighbour's Club". It provides a
> > building in downtown Toronto, where homeless men aged 50 and over
> > are welcome during the 11 hours daily, when the hostels are closed.
> > They can shower there. They can get clothing. They can have a hot
> > meal. They can play cards. They are made welcome.
> >
> > You see, I don't just "talk the talk". I also "walk the walk"
>
> And is willing to force everyone else to walk like he does... which is his
> crucial flaw.
>
> He sees himself as *willing* to donate, but feels the heavy boot of
> government is needed to force his neighbours to do likewise.
>
> Also, pointing out the reasons why this is an unacceptable use of
government
> authority, instantly makes you worthy to be called "some kind of
ultra-right
> wing fanatic" or some such other epithet of equal obsurdity.
>
>
>
--
http://www.bcrevolution.ca/
<nshinede@no-spam> wrote in message
news:KlgKa.4692$xv.1067@no-spam
> Tyler! A proud title, that! I've been called worse! Do you think they will
> make us the next Ruby Ridge or Waco?
When you have a high court tribunal essentually saying nobody has rights,
just government privleges, it's just a question of time.
The federal government has me listed on their website hitlist for
"hatecrimes" because of the work that i have done to protect individual
liberty and justice.
> You know, these extreme left wing governments have shot up and burned two
> "compounds" of "right wing extremists" now, . Willie, Silly Hillary, and
Big
> J Reno in charge, murdered all those families and children. Used tanks and
> aircraft to do it!
Yeah, then lied about the facts, just like they always do.
I suppose when they feel their words are like unto God as far as creating
law goes, everything they say is, to them at least, a form of truth.
> We hav'nt done a thing, but were always called the "rednecks" with guns
and
> camo, waiting our chance to get them.
The first right is the right of self-defense.
> Based on reality, on facts, who are the real rednecks shooting up the
> country, and killing the kids? Do you suppose thats why they want to ban
> guns? They don't trust themselves with them?
I think the following says it all....
http://www.bcrevolution.ca/government_thugs.htm
> "»Tylêr Dûrdên«" <t_durdre@no-spam> wrote in message
> news:8xwIa.267999$Vi5.7068952@no-spam
> >
> >
> > --
> > http://www.bcrevolution.ca/
> > "John Carrick" <jcarr@no-spam> wrote in message
> > news:737fevcet0v1bdsrn66ftnrbkjce3lo4a3@no-spam
> > > On Wed, 11 Jun 2003 13:51:49 GMT, <nshinede@no-spam> wrote:
> > >
> > > >Ya, well, John, when was the last time you gave your money to support
> the
> > > >"homeless," or anyone else?
> > >
> > > I recently donated $500 to "the Good Neighbour's Club". It provides a
> > > building in downtown Toronto, where homeless men aged 50 and over
> > > are welcome during the 11 hours daily, when the hostels are closed.
> > > They can shower there. They can get clothing. They can have a hot
> > > meal. They can play cards. They are made welcome.
> > >
> > > You see, I don't just "talk the talk". I also "walk the walk"
> >
> > And is willing to force everyone else to walk like he does... which is
his
> > crucial flaw.
> >
> > He sees himself as *willing* to donate, but feels the heavy boot of
> > government is needed to force his neighbours to do likewise.
> >
> > Also, pointing out the reasons why this is an unacceptable use of
> government
> > authority, instantly makes you worthy to be called "some kind of
> ultra-right
> > wing fanatic" or some such other epithet of equal obsurdity.
> >
> >
> >
>
>
Tyler,
Thats wonderful, to stop a suicide, kill him! They certainly prevented the
suicide!
So far, here in the states, they've not managed to totally disarm us.
I liked the statement of the Governer of Pennsylvania after Reno's Ranger's
and the Clinton Kommando's shot up Waco, TX.
He said, I quote: "If they ever try that here, they will face more guns
going out than they did comming in."
They left Pennsalvania alone.
"»Tylêr Dûrdên«" <t_durdre@no-spam> wrote in message
news:H_LKa.299343$ro6.7407613@no-spam
>
>
> --
> http://www.bcrevolution.ca/
> <nshinede@no-spam> wrote in message
> news:KlgKa.4692$xv.1067@no-spam
> > Tyler! A proud title, that! I've been called worse! Do you think they
will
> > make us the next Ruby Ridge or Waco?
>
> When you have a high court tribunal essentually saying nobody has rights,
> just government privleges, it's just a question of time.
>
> The federal government has me listed on their website hitlist for
> "hatecrimes" because of the work that i have done to protect individual
> liberty and justice.
>
> > You know, these extreme left wing governments have shot up and burned
two
> > "compounds" of "right wing extremists" now, . Willie, Silly Hillary, and
> Big
> > J Reno in charge, murdered all those families and children. Used tanks
and
> > aircraft to do it!
>
> Yeah, then lied about the facts, just like they always do.
>
> I suppose when they feel their words are like unto God as far as creating
> law goes, everything they say is, to them at least, a form of truth.
>
> > We hav'nt done a thing, but were always called the "rednecks" with guns
> and
> > camo, waiting our chance to get them.
>
> The first right is the right of self-defense.
>
> > Based on reality, on facts, who are the real rednecks shooting up the
> > country, and killing the kids? Do you suppose thats why they want to ban
> > guns? They don't trust themselves with them?
>
> I think the following says it all....
> http://www.bcrevolution.ca/government_thugs.htm
>
>
> > "»Tylêr Dûrdên«" <t_durdre@no-spam> wrote in message
> > news:8xwIa.267999$Vi5.7068952@no-spam
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > http://www.bcrevolution.ca/
> > > "John Carrick" <jcarr@no-spam> wrote in message
> > > news:737fevcet0v1bdsrn66ftnrbkjce3lo4a3@no-spam
> > > > On Wed, 11 Jun 2003 13:51:49 GMT, <nshinede@no-spam> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >Ya, well, John, when was the last time you gave your money to
support
> > the
> > > > >"homeless," or anyone else?
> > > >
> > > > I recently donated $500 to "the Good Neighbour's Club". It provides
a
> > > > building in downtown Toronto, where homeless men aged 50 and over
> > > > are welcome during the 11 hours daily, when the hostels are closed.
> > > > They can shower there. They can get clothing. They can have a hot
> > > > meal. They can play cards. They are made welcome.
> > > >
> > > > You see, I don't just "talk the talk". I also "walk the walk"
> > >
> > > And is willing to force everyone else to walk like he does... which is
> his
> > > crucial flaw.
> > >
> > > He sees himself as *willing* to donate, but feels the heavy boot of
> > > government is needed to force his neighbours to do likewise.
> > >
> > > Also, pointing out the reasons why this is an unacceptable use of
> > government
> > > authority, instantly makes you worthy to be called "some kind of
> > ultra-right
> > > wing fanatic" or some such other epithet of equal obsurdity.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
--
http://www.bcrevolution.ca/
<nshinede@no-spam> wrote in message
news:70XKa.5407$xv.667@no-spam
> Tyler,
>
> Thats wonderful, to stop a suicide, kill him! They certainly prevented the
> suicide!
>
> So far, here in the states, they've not managed to totally disarm us.
>
> I liked the statement of the Governer of Pennsylvania after Reno's
Ranger's
> and the Clinton Kommando's shot up Waco, TX.
>
> He said, I quote: "If they ever try that here, they will face more guns
> going out than they did comming in."
>
> They left Pennsalvania alone.
Excellent! Good to see a Governor sticking up for his peoples liberty.
And I've always liked New Hampshire's license plate slogan: "Live free or
Die".
> "»Tylêr Dûrdên«" <t_durdre@no-spam> wrote in message
> news:H_LKa.299343$ro6.7407613@no-spam
> >
> >
> > --
> > http://www.bcrevolution.ca/
> > <nshinede@no-spam> wrote in message
> > news:KlgKa.4692$xv.1067@no-spam
> > > Tyler! A proud title, that! I've been called worse! Do you think they
> will
> > > make us the next Ruby Ridge or Waco?
> >
> > When you have a high court tribunal essentually saying nobody has
rights,
> > just government privleges, it's just a question of time.
> >
> > The federal government has me listed on their website hitlist for
> > "hatecrimes" because of the work that i have done to protect individual
> > liberty and justice.
> >
> > > You know, these extreme left wing governments have shot up and burned
> two
> > > "compounds" of "right wing extremists" now, . Willie, Silly Hillary,
and
> > Big
> > > J Reno in charge, murdered all those families and children. Used tanks
> and
> > > aircraft to do it!
> >
> > Yeah, then lied about the facts, just like they always do.
> >
> > I suppose when they feel their words are like unto God as far as
creating
> > law goes, everything they say is, to them at least, a form of truth.
> >
> > > We hav'nt done a thing, but were always called the "rednecks" with
guns
> > and
> > > camo, waiting our chance to get them.
> >
> > The first right is the right of self-defense.
> >
> > > Based on reality, on facts, who are the real rednecks shooting up the
> > > country, and killing the kids? Do you suppose thats why they want to
ban
> > > guns? They don't trust themselves with them?
> >
> > I think the following says it all....
> > http://www.bcrevolution.ca/government_thugs.htm
> >
> >
> > > "»Tylêr Dûrdên«" <t_durdre@no-spam> wrote in message
> > > news:8xwIa.267999$Vi5.7068952@no-spam
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > http://www.bcrevolution.ca/
> > > > "John Carrick" <jcarr@no-spam> wrote in message
> > > > news:737fevcet0v1bdsrn66ftnrbkjce3lo4a3@no-spam
> > > > > On Wed, 11 Jun 2003 13:51:49 GMT, <nshinede@no-spam>
wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >Ya, well, John, when was the last time you gave your money to
> support
> > > the
> > > > > >"homeless," or anyone else?
> > > > >
> > > > > I recently donated $500 to "the Good Neighbour's Club". It
provides
> a
> > > > > building in downtown Toronto, where homeless men aged 50 and over
> > > > > are welcome during the 11 hours daily, when the hostels are
closed.
> > > > > They can shower there. They can get clothing. They can have a
hot
> > > > > meal. They can play cards. They are made welcome.
> > > > >
> > > > > You see, I don't just "talk the talk". I also "walk the walk"
> > > >
> > > > And is willing to force everyone else to walk like he does... which
is
> > his
> > > > crucial flaw.
> > > >
> > > > He sees himself as *willing* to donate, but feels the heavy boot of
> > > > government is needed to force his neighbours to do likewise.
> > > >
> > > > Also, pointing out the reasons why this is an unacceptable use of
> > > government
> > > > authority, instantly makes you worthy to be called "some kind of
> > > ultra-right
> > > > wing fanatic" or some such other epithet of equal obsurdity.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
"»Tylêr Dûrdên«" <t_durdre@no-spam> wrote in message
news:lc3La.333981$Vi5.8468653@no-spam
>
>
> --
> http://www.bcrevolution.ca/
> <nshinede@no-spam> wrote in message
> news:70XKa.5407$xv.667@no-spam
> > Tyler,
> >
> > Thats wonderful, to stop a suicide, kill him! They certainly prevented
the
> > suicide!
> >
> > So far, here in the states, they've not managed to totally disarm us.
> >
> > I liked the statement of the Governer of Pennsylvania after Reno's
> Ranger's
> > and the Clinton Kommando's shot up Waco, TX.
> >
> > He said, I quote: "If they ever try that here, they will face more guns
> > going out than they did comming in."
> >
> > They left Pennsalvania alone.
>
> Excellent! Good to see a Governor sticking up for his peoples liberty.
>
> And I've always liked New Hampshire's license plate slogan: "Live free or
> Die".
It's the sign of a healthy mind
--
Terry Pearson
The philosophy of socialism equates to
poverty thinking. The rich get rich and
the poor get poor. They both planned it
that way.
http://www.rightpoint.ca
The Daily Blog
http://www.rightpoint.ca/blog.htm
The Deilly Point
http://www.rightpoint.ca/deilly.htm
>
I liked the state line signs that Pennsylvania used to have between the
People's Republic of New Jersey and PA. They read "America begins here"
"»Tylêr Dûrdên«" <t_durdre@no-spam> wrote in message
news:lc3La.333981$Vi5.8468653@no-spam
>
>
> --
> http://www.bcrevolution.ca/
> <nshinede@no-spam> wrote in message
> news:70XKa.5407$xv.667@no-spam
> > Tyler,
> >
> > Thats wonderful, to stop a suicide, kill him! They certainly prevented
the
> > suicide!
> >
> > So far, here in the states, they've not managed to totally disarm us.
> >
> > I liked the statement of the Governer of Pennsylvania after Reno's
> Ranger's
> > and the Clinton Kommando's shot up Waco, TX.
> >
> > He said, I quote: "If they ever try that here, they will face more guns
> > going out than they did comming in."
> >
> > They left Pennsalvania alone.
>
> Excellent! Good to see a Governor sticking up for his peoples liberty.
>
> And I've always liked New Hampshire's license plate slogan: "Live free or
> Die".
>
> > "»Tylêr Dûrdên«" <t_durdre@no-spam> wrote in message
> > news:H_LKa.299343$ro6.7407613@no-spam
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > http://www.bcrevolution.ca/
> > > <nshinede@no-spam> wrote in message
> > > news:KlgKa.4692$xv.1067@no-spam
> > > > Tyler! A proud title, that! I've been called worse! Do you think
they
> > will
> > > > make us the next Ruby Ridge or Waco?
> > >
> > > When you have a high court tribunal essentually saying nobody has
> rights,
> > > just government privleges, it's just a question of time.
> > >
> > > The federal government has me listed on their website hitlist for
> > > "hatecrimes" because of the work that i have done to protect
individual
> > > liberty and justice.
> > >
> > > > You know, these extreme left wing governments have shot up and
burned
> > two
> > > > "compounds" of "right wing extremists" now, . Willie, Silly Hillary,
> and
> > > Big
> > > > J Reno in charge, murdered all those families and children. Used
tanks
> > and
> > > > aircraft to do it!
> > >
> > > Yeah, then lied about the facts, just like they always do.
> > >
> > > I suppose when they feel their words are like unto God as far as
> creating
> > > law goes, everything they say is, to them at least, a form of truth.
> > >
> > > > We hav'nt done a thing, but were always called the "rednecks" with
> guns
> > > and
> > > > camo, waiting our chance to get them.
> > >
> > > The first right is the right of self-defense.
> > >
> > > > Based on reality, on facts, who are the real rednecks shooting up
the
> > > > country, and killing the kids? Do you suppose thats why they want to
> ban
> > > > guns? They don't trust themselves with them?
> > >
> > > I think the following says it all....
> > > http://www.bcrevolution.ca/government_thugs.htm
> > >
> > >
> > > > "»Tylêr Dûrdên«" <t_durdre@no-spam> wrote in message
> > > > news:8xwIa.267999$Vi5.7068952@no-spam
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > http://www.bcrevolution.ca/
> > > > > "John Carrick" <jcarr@no-spam> wrote in message
> > > > > news:737fevcet0v1bdsrn66ftnrbkjce3lo4a3@no-spam
> > > > > > On Wed, 11 Jun 2003 13:51:49 GMT, <nshinede@no-spam>
> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >Ya, well, John, when was the last time you gave your money to
> > support
> > > > the
> > > > > > >"homeless," or anyone else?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I recently donated $500 to "the Good Neighbour's Club". It
> provides
> > a
> > > > > > building in downtown Toronto, where homeless men aged 50 and
over
> > > > > > are welcome during the 11 hours daily, when the hostels are
> closed.
> > > > > > They can shower there. They can get clothing. They can have a
> hot
> > > > > > meal. They can play cards. They are made welcome.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You see, I don't just "talk the talk". I also "walk the walk"
> > > > >
> > > > > And is willing to force everyone else to walk like he does...
which
> is
> > > his
> > > > > crucial flaw.
> > > > >
> > > > > He sees himself as *willing* to donate, but feels the heavy boot
of
> > > > > government is needed to force his neighbours to do likewise.
> > > > >
> > > > > Also, pointing out the reasons why this is an unacceptable use of
> > > > government
> > > > > authority, instantly makes you worthy to be called "some kind of
> > > > ultra-right
> > > > > wing fanatic" or some such other epithet of equal obsurdity.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
And the ones who demonstrate no effort to use their ability to make more
money, are the same ones not entitled to welfare. The others are, though,
as long as they do not have enough to provide for themselves.
<nshinede@no-spam> wrote in message
news:dwYJa.3897$xv.811@no-spam
> In the real world, eveyone is not blessed with equal skills, or mentality.
>
> "The minimum wage" is all some of us are capable of earning. Others,
> however, are quite capable of improving themselves.
>
> There are all sorts of ways to earn a living. Each of us has to make the
> effort. I am sure many are quite content with the minimum wage, as they
> demonstrate no effort to achieve more.
>
> Thats just the way it is.
> "Falcon Kirtarania" <cmomot@no-spam> wrote in message
> news:FirIa.238100$3C2.6913581@no-spam
> > A decent one? Minimum wage is not good enough to support a family, and
is
> > just barely enough for oneself. And you can't just walk into university
> or
> > college.
> >
> > <nshinede@no-spam> wrote in message
> > news:eF2Ia.37$Lt.27@no-spam
> > > Falcon; Its as simple as this. Anyone can still get themselves off the
> > > street, and get a job.
> > > Period, and not that hard at all.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Falcon Kirtarania" <cmomot@no-spam> wrote in message
> > > news:FnPGa.198797$3C2.6100922@no-spam
> > > > In those cases where it is possible to assist them to be productive.
> > > Those
> > > > drunk hippies and bums probably could get education and work, if
they
> > > tried
> > > > hard enough - but if they cannot prove that either they will never
> have
> > > the
> > > > capacity to work no matter how hard they try (too old, etc.) or that
> > they
> > > > are getting work, they should not be elegible for welfare. It is as
> > > simple
> > > > as that. We already pay enough tax to administrative costs, maybe
> some
> > of
> > > > what we already pay could be chanelled off into this re-education
> > system.
> > > > Also, don't you think it is a good use of tax money, to make the
bums
> > get
> > > > themselves off the streets? Or do you like the fact that they are
> there
> > > and
> > > > they steal and mug people for food? Not that all of them do, of
> > course -
> > > > but still, if you would put money into a homeless shelter, I don't
see
> > > what
> > > > you would have against supporting the re-education of those who are
> > > (because
> > > > of lack of education) unable to provide for themselves.
> > > >
> > > > <nshinede@no-spam> wrote in message
> > > > news:cFkGa.133779$BA.41311083@no-spam
> > > > > Falcon, Some people can't be self supporting, their too old, or
> sick.
> > > > >
> > > > > Those are the only ones whom we should support, and it should not
be
> > > > > taxpayers who support them.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have nothing against doing so, on a voluntary basis. When the
> > > government
> > > > > forces me to support every drunken, dopped up bum off the streets,
> > every
> > > > old
> > > > > hippy suffering from this who rioted in their '60's, against my
> > country,
> > > I
> > > > > get upset. Sorry.
> > > > >
> > > > > "Falcon Kirtarania" <cmomot@no-spam> wrote in message
> > > > > news:gOPFa.173886$3C2.5538956@no-spam
> > > > > > We shouldn't just throw money at the poor, we should assist them
> in
> > > > > becoming
> > > > > > self-supporting citizens.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "John Carrick" <jcarr@no-spam> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:737fevcet0v1bdsrn66ftnrbkjce3lo4a3@no-spam
> > > > > > > On Wed, 11 Jun 2003 13:51:49 GMT, <nshinede@no-spam>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >Ya, well, John, when was the last time you gave your money to
> > > support
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > >"homeless," or anyone else?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I recently donated $500 to "the Good Neighbour's Club". It
> > provides
> > > a
> > > > > > > building in downtown Toronto, where homeless men aged 50 and
> over
> > > > > > > are welcome during the 11 hours daily, when the hostels are
> > closed.
> > > > > > > They can shower there. They can get clothing. They can have
a
> > hot
> > > > > > > meal. They can play cards. They are made welcome.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > You see, I don't just "talk the talk". I also "walk the walk"
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > In fact, I donate thousands of dollars annually to good
causes.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Now shall I hold my breath waiting for your apology?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I won't, because I have you pegged as a loudmouth and a
> > > vacant-headed,
> > > > > > > conservative-crazy ass.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >I bet the most you do is drop your change in a couple hands,
if
> > > that.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > You lose that bet, you cynical bastard.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Your problem is that you don't imagine that anyone could be
any
> > more
> > > > > > > thoughtful and generous than you are.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >You want "the government" to do it, with my tax money, right?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > You have that right. One of your obligations as a citizen is
to
> > > help
> > > > > > > to finance programs for the needy - to the extent that you are
> > able.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I *definitely* want to see money taken from your selfish
hands,
> > and
> > > > > > > spent on people who are in difficulty through no fault of
their
> > own.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Now, go gnash your teeth, you overly selfish simpleton.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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<nshinede@no-spam> wrote in message
news:GAfLa.5518$xv.506@no-spam
> I liked the state line signs that Pennsylvania used to have between the
> People's Republic of New Jersey and PA. They read "America begins here"
My Dad went to school in Pennsylvania.... took underwater accoustics. He
also worked on the Avro Arrow.
Lets face it, the men that founded the US are heros in the fullest sense,
and i have nothing but the utmost respect for them. Country building is not
dead yet either, so governments had best be warned what their place is.
> "»Tylêr Dûrdên«" <t_durdre@no-spam> wrote in message
> news:lc3La.333981$Vi5.8468653@no-spam
> >
> >
> > --
> > http://www.bcrevolution.ca/
> > <nshinede@no-spam> wrote in message
> > news:70XKa.5407$xv.667@no-spam
> > > Tyler,
> > >
> > > Thats wonderful, to stop a suicide, kill him! They certainly prevented
> the
> > > suicide!
> > >
> > > So far, here in the states, they've not managed to totally disarm us.
> > >
> > > I liked the statement of the Governer of Pennsylvania after Reno's
> > Ranger's
> > > and the Clinton Kommando's shot up Waco, TX.
> > >
> > > He said, I quote: "If they ever try that here, they will face more
guns
> > > going out than they did comming in."
> > >
> > > They left Pennsalvania alone.
> >
> > Excellent! Good to see a Governor sticking up for his peoples liberty.
> >
> > And I've always liked New Hampshire's license plate slogan: "Live free
or
> > Die".
> >
> > > "»Tylêr Dûrdên«" <t_durdre@no-spam> wrote in message
> > > news:H_LKa.299343$ro6.7407613@no-spam
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > http://www.bcrevolution.ca/
> > > > <nshinede@no-spam> wrote in message
> > > > news:KlgKa.4692$xv.1067@no-spam
> > > > > Tyler! A proud title, that! I've been called worse! Do you think
> they
> > > will
> > > > > make us the next Ruby Ridge or Waco?
> > > >
> > > > When you have a high court tribunal essentually saying nobody has
> > rights,
> > > > just government privleges, it's just a question of time.
> > > >
> > > > The federal government has me listed on their website hitlist for
> > > > "hatecrimes" because of the work that i have done to protect
> individual
> > > > liberty and justice.
> > > >
> > > > > You know, these extreme left wing governments have shot up and
> burned
> > > two
> > > > > "compounds" of "right wing extremists" now, . Willie, Silly
Hillary,
> > and
> > > > Big
> > > > > J Reno in charge, murdered all those families and children. Used
> tanks
> > > and
> > > > > aircraft to do it!
> > > >
> > > > Yeah, then lied about the facts, just like they always do.
> > > >
> > > > I suppose when they feel their words are like unto God as far as
> > creating
> > > > law goes, everything they say is, to them at least, a form of truth.
> > > >
> > > > > We hav'nt done a thing, but were always called the "rednecks" with
> > guns
> > > > and
> > > > > camo, waiting our chance to get them.
> > > >
> > > > The first right is the right of self-defense.
> > > >
> > > > > Based on reality, on facts, who are the real rednecks shooting up
> the
> > > > > country, and killing the kids? Do you suppose thats why they want
to
> > ban
> > > > > guns? They don't trust themselves with them?
> > > >
> > > > I think the following says it all....
> > > > http://www.bcrevolution.ca/government_thugs.htm
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > "»Tylêr Dûrdên«" <t_durdre@no-spam> wrote in message
> > > > > news:8xwIa.267999$Vi5.7068952@no-spam
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > http://www.bcrevolution.ca/
> > > > > > "John Carrick" <jcarr@no-spam> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:737fevcet0v1bdsrn66ftnrbkjce3lo4a3@no-spam
> > > > > > > On Wed, 11 Jun 2003 13:51:49 GMT, <nshinede@no-spam>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >Ya, well, John, when was the last time you gave your money to
> > > support
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > >"homeless," or anyone else?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I recently donated $500 to "the Good Neighbour's Club". It
> > provides
> > > a
> > > > > > > building in downtown Toronto, where homeless men aged 50 and
> over
> > > > > > > are welcome during the 11 hours daily, when the hostels are
> > closed.
> > > > > > > They can shower there. They can get clothing. They can have
a
> > hot
> > > > > > > meal. They can play cards. They are made welcome.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > You see, I don't just "talk the talk". I also "walk the walk"
> > > > > >
> > > > > > And is willing to force everyone else to walk like he does...
> which
> > is
> > > > his
> > > > > > crucial flaw.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > He sees himself as *willing* to donate, but feels the heavy boot
> of
> > > > > > government is needed to force his neighbours to do likewise.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Also, pointing out the reasons why this is an unacceptable use
of
> > > > > government
> > > > > > authority, instantly makes you worthy to be called "some kind of
> > > > > ultra-right
> > > > > > wing fanatic" or some such other epithet of equal obsurdity.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
Tyler;
I have never lived in PA, but passed through many times. I have lived all
over this country due to changes in assignment before retirement,
as well as Europe. I did take some management courses in Happy Valley,
though.
You right. This idea that the cold war is ended is of itself incorrect, but
even if it was, this is still a most dangerous planet, more so now than in
any time past.
Nuclear chemical, and biological weapons are passing into the hands of
nitwits, religous fanatics, and others who control ground, which we dignify
by calling nations.
And our own people who incline to the political left think thats OK. In
their view, if we are "nice" to them, they will "like" us. And if they don't
"like" us, we must be bad. Example: North Korea. An unbelieveable situation.
I'd rather be hated and alive, than "liked" and dead, for myself and my
grand kids.
I will be on vacation after today, so keep the nitwits at bay!
"»Tylêr Dûrdên«" <t_durdre@no-spam> wrote in message
news:4oLLa.320390$ro6.7817194@no-spam
>
>
> --
> http://www.bcrevolution.ca/
> <nshinede@no-spam> wrote in message
> news:GAfLa.5518$xv.506@no-spam
> > I liked the state line signs that Pennsylvania used to have between the
> > People's Republic of New Jersey and PA. They read "America begins here"
>
> My Dad went to school in Pennsylvania.... took underwater accoustics. He
> also worked on the Avro Arrow.
>
> Lets face it, the men that founded the US are heros in the fullest sense,
> and i have nothing but the utmost respect for them. Country building is
not
> dead yet either, so governments had best be warned what their place is.
>
>
> > "»Tylêr Dûrdên«" <t_durdre@no-spam> wrote in message
> > news:lc3La.333981$Vi5.8468653@no-spam
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > http://www.bcrevolution.ca/
> > > <nshinede@no-spam> wrote in message
> > > news:70XKa.5407$xv.667@no-spam
> > > > Tyler,
> > > >
> > > > Thats wonderful, to stop a suicide, kill him! They certainly
prevented
> > the
> > > > suicide!
> > > >
> > > > So far, here in the states, they've not managed to totally disarm
us.
> > > >
> > > > I liked the statement of the Governer of Pennsylvania after Reno's
> > > Ranger's
> > > > and the Clinton Kommando's shot up Waco, TX.
> > > >
> > > > He said, I quote: "If they ever try that here, they will face more
> guns
> > > > going out than they did comming in."
> > > >
> > > > They left Pennsalvania alone.
> > >
> > > Excellent! Good to see a Governor sticking up for his peoples liberty.
> > >
> > > And I've always liked New Hampshire's license plate slogan: "Live free
> or
> > > Die".
> > >
> > > > "»Tylêr Dûrdên«" <t_durdre@no-spam> wrote in message
> > > > news:H_LKa.299343$ro6.7407613@no-spam
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > http://www.bcrevolution.ca/
> > > > > <nshinede@no-spam> wrote in message
> > > > > news:KlgKa.4692$xv.1067@no-spam
> > > > > > Tyler! A proud title, that! I've been called worse! Do you think
> > they
> > > > will
> > > > > > make us the next Ruby Ridge or Waco?
> > > > >
> > > > > When you have a high court tribunal essentually saying nobody has
> > > rights,
> > > > > just government privleges, it's just a question of time.
> > > > >
> > > > > The federal government has me listed on their website hitlist for
> > > > > "hatecrimes" because of the work that i have done to protect
> > individual
> > > > > liberty and justice.
> > > > >
> > > > > > You know, these extreme left wing governments have shot up and
> > burned
> > > > two
> > > > > > "compounds" of "right wing extremists" now, . Willie, Silly
> Hillary,
> > > and
> > > > > Big
> > > > > > J Reno in charge, murdered all those families and children. Used
> > tanks
> > > > and
> > > > > > aircraft to do it!
> > > > >
> > > > > Yeah, then lied about the facts, just like they always do.
> > > > >
> > > > > I suppose when they feel their words are like unto God as far as
> > > creating
> > > > > law goes, everything they say is, to them at least, a form of
truth.
> > > > >
> > > > > > We hav'nt done a thing, but were always called the "rednecks"
with
> > > guns
> > > > > and
> > > > > > camo, waiting our chance to get them.
> > > > >
> > > > > The first right is the right of self-defense.
> > > > >
> > > > > > Based on reality, on facts, who are the real rednecks shooting
up
> > the
> > > > > > country, and killing the kids? Do you suppose thats why they
want
> to
> > > ban
> > > > > > guns? They don't trust themselves with them?
> > > > >
> > > > > I think the following says it all....
> > > > > http://www.bcrevolution.ca/government_thugs.htm
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > "»Tylêr Dûrdên«" <t_durdre@no-spam> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:8xwIa.267999$Vi5.7068952@no-spam
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > http://www.bcrevolution.ca/
> > > > > > > "John Carrick" <jcarr@no-spam> wrote in message
> > > > > > > news:737fevcet0v1bdsrn66ftnrbkjce3lo4a3@no-spam
> > > > > > > > On Wed, 11 Jun 2003 13:51:49 GMT, <nshinede@no-spam>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >Ya, well, John, when was the last time you gave your money
to
> > > > support
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > >"homeless," or anyone else?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I recently donated $500 to "the Good Neighbour's Club". It
> > > provides
> > > > a
> > > > > > > > building in downtown Toronto, where homeless men aged 50 and
> > over
> > > > > > > > are welcome during the 11 hours daily, when the hostels are
> > > closed.
> > > > > > > > They can shower there. They can get clothing. They can
have
> a
> > > hot
> > > > > > > > meal. They can play cards. They are made welcome.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > You see, I don't just "talk the talk". I also "walk the
walk"
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > And is willing to force everyone else to walk like he does...
> > which
> > > is
> > > > > his
> > > > > > > crucial flaw.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > He sees himself as *willing* to donate, but feels the heavy
boot
> > of
> > > > > > > government is needed to force his neighbours to do likewise.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Also, pointing out the reasons why this is an unacceptable use
> of
> > > > > > government
> > > > > > > authority, instantly makes you worthy to be called "some kind
of
> > > > > > ultra-right
> > > > > > > wing fanatic" or some such other epithet of equal obsurdity.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
"»Tylêr Dûrdên«" <t_durdre@no-spam> wrote in message
news:4oLLa.320390$ro6.7817194@no-spam
>
>
> --
> http://www.bcrevolution.ca/
> <nshinede@no-spam> wrote in message
> news:GAfLa.5518$xv.506@no-spam
> > I liked the state line signs that Pennsylvania used to have between the
> > People's Republic of New Jersey and PA. They read "America begins here"
>
> My Dad went to school in Pennsylvania.... took underwater accoustics. He
> also worked on the Avro Arrow.
>
> Lets face it, the men that founded the US are heros in the fullest sense,
> and i have nothing but the utmost respect for them. Country building is
not
> dead yet either, so governments had best be warned what their place is.
Uh huh.... .yea... those 'pioneers'
Do you know any history other than your cherished 'magna carta' ????
The only reason _any_ americans manager _any_ rights is because there
happened to be one 'aristocracy' opposed to another.
the other had the unfortunate need of volunteers.
If you doubt this, just ask yourself, if they were indeed 'nation' builders,
what year did _all_ americans gain the right to vote?
>
> > "»Tylêr Dûrdên«" <t_durdre@no-spam> wrote in message
> > news:lc3La.333981$Vi5.8468653@no-spam
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > http://www.bcrevolution.ca/
> > > <nshinede@no-spam> wrote in message
> > > news:70XKa.5407$xv.667@no-spam
> > > > Tyler,
> > > >
> > > > Thats wonderful, to stop a suicide, kill him! They certainly
prevented
> > the
> > > > suicide!
> > > >
> > > > So far, here in the states, they've not managed to totally disarm
us.
> > > >
> > > > I liked the statement of the Governer of Pennsylvania after Reno's
> > > Ranger's
> > > > and the Clinton Kommando's shot up Waco, TX.
> > > >
> > > > He said, I quote: "If they ever try that here, they will face more
> guns
> > > > going out than they did comming in."
> > > >
> > > > They left Pennsalvania alone.
> > >
> > > Excellent! Good to see a Governor sticking up for his peoples liberty.
> > >
> > > And I've always liked New Hampshire's license plate slogan: "Live free
> or
> > > Die".
> > >
> > > > "»Tylêr Dûrdên«" <t_durdre@no-spam> wrote in message
> > > > news:H_LKa.299343$ro6.7407613@no-spam
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > http://www.bcrevolution.ca/
> > > > > <nshinede@no-spam> wrote in message
> > > > > news:KlgKa.4692$xv.1067@no-spam
> > > > > > Tyler! A proud title, that! I've been called worse! Do you think
> > they
> > > > will
> > > > > > make us the next Ruby Ridge or Waco?
> > > > >
> > > > > When you have a high court tribunal essentually saying nobody has
> > > rights,
> > > > > just government privleges, it's just a question of time.
> > > > >
> > > > > The federal government has me listed on their website hitlist for
> > > > > "hatecrimes" because of the work that i have done to protect
> > individual
> > > > > liberty and justice.
> > > > >
> > > > > > You know, these extreme left wing governments have shot up and
> > burned
> > > > two
> > > > > > "compounds" of "right wing extremists" now, . Willie, Silly
> Hillary,
> > > and
> > > > > Big
> > > > > > J Reno in charge, murdered all those families and children. Used
> > tanks
> > > > and
> > > > > > aircraft to do it!
> > > > >
> > > > > Yeah, then lied about the facts, just like they always do.
> > > > >
> > > > > I suppose when they feel their words are like unto God as far as
> > > creating
> > > > > law goes, everything they say is, to them at least, a form of
truth.
> > > > >
> > > > > > We hav'nt done a thing, but were always called the "rednecks"
with
> > > guns
> > > > > and
> > > > > > camo, waiting our chance to get them.
> > > > >
> > > > > The first right is the right of self-defense.
> > > > >
> > > > > > Based on reality, on facts, who are the real rednecks shooting
up
> > the
> > > > > > country, and killing the kids? Do you suppose thats why they
want
> to
> > > ban
> > > > > > guns? They don't trust themselves with them?
> > > > >
> > > > > I think the following says it all....
> > > > > http://www.bcrevolution.ca/government_thugs.htm
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > "»Tylêr Dûrdên«" <t_durdre@no-spam> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:8xwIa.267999$Vi5.7068952@no-spam
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > http://www.bcrevolution.ca/
> > > > > > > "John Carrick" <jcarr@no-spam> wrote in message
> > > > > > > news:737fevcet0v1bdsrn66ftnrbkjce3lo4a3@no-spam
> > > > > > > > On Wed, 11 Jun 2003 13:51:49 GMT, <nshinede@no-spam>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >Ya, well, John, when was the last time you gave your money
to
> > > > support
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > >"homeless," or anyone else?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I recently donated $500 to "the Good Neighbour's Club". It
> > > provides
> > > > a
> > > > > > > > building in downtown Toronto, where homeless men aged 50 and
> > over
> > > > > > > > are welcome during the 11 hours daily, when the hostels are
> > > closed.
> > > > > > > > They can shower there. They can get clothing. They can
have
> a
> > > hot
> > > > > > > > meal. They can play cards. They are made welcome.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > You see, I don't just "talk the talk". I also "walk the
walk"
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > And is willing to force everyone else to walk like he does...
> > which
> > > is
> > > > > his
> > > > > > > crucial flaw.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > He sees himself as *willing* to donate, but feels the heavy
boot
> > of
> > > > > > > government is needed to force his neighbours to do likewise.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Also, pointing out the reasons why this is an unacceptable use
> of
> > > > > > government
> > > > > > > authority, instantly makes you worthy to be called "some kind
of
> > > > > > ultra-right
> > > > > > > wing fanatic" or some such other epithet of equal obsurdity.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
Mage; you are quite simply a liar.
Anyone who reads my posts knows I am not on any federal list as a "hate
crime" suspect,
nor have I ever posted anything similar to the messages you suscribe to me
below the first paragraph.
Your just foolish to try to fake posts. You expose yourself as a little,
sneaky liar to the world.
"Mage" <mage@no-spam> wrote in message
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>
> "»Tylêr Dûrdên«" <t_durdre@no-spam> wrote in message
> news:H_LKa.299343$ro6.7407613@no-spam
> >
> >
> > --
> > http://www.bcrevolution.ca/
> > <nshinede@no-spam> wrote in message
> > news:KlgKa.4692$xv.1067@no-spam
> > > Tyler! A proud title, that! I've been called worse! Do you think they
> will
> > > make us the next Ruby Ridge or Waco?
> >
> > When you have a high court tribunal essentually saying nobody has
rights,
> > just government privleges, it's just a question of time.
> >
> > The federal government has me listed on their website hitlist for
> > "hatecrimes" because of the work that i have done to protect individual
> > liberty and justice.
>
> Oh?
>
> URL please?
>
>
>
>
> > > You know, these extreme left wing governments have shot up and burned
> two
> > > "compounds" of "right wing extremists" now, . Willie, Silly Hillary,
and
> > Big
> > > J Reno in charge, murdered all those families and children. Used tanks
> and
> > > aircraft to do it!
> >
> > Yeah, then lied about the facts, just like they always do.
> >
> > I suppose when they feel their words are like unto God as far as
creating
> > law goes, everything they say is, to them at least, a form of truth.
> >
> > > We hav'nt done a thing, but were always called the "rednecks" with
guns
> > and
> > > camo, waiting our chance to get them.
> >
> > The first right is the right of self-defense.
> >
> > > Based on reality, on facts, who are the real rednecks shooting up the
> > > country, and killing the kids? Do you suppose thats why they want to
ban
> > > guns? They don't trust themselves with them?
> >
> > I think the following says it all....
> > http://www.bcrevolution.ca/government_thugs.htm
> >
> >
> > > "»Tylêr Dûrdên«" <t_durdre@no-spam> wrote in message
> > > news:8xwIa.267999$Vi5.7068952@no-spam
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > http://www.bcrevolution.ca/
> > > > "John Carrick" <jcarr@no-spam> wrote in message
> > > > news:737fevcet0v1bdsrn66ftnrbkjce3lo4a3@no-spam
> > > > > On Wed, 11 Jun 2003 13:51:49 GMT, <nshinede@no-spam>
wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >Ya, well, John, when was the last time you gave your money to
> support
> > > the
> > > > > >"homeless," or anyone else?
> > > > >
> > > > > I recently donated $500 to "the Good Neighbour's Club". It
provides
> a
> > > > > building in downtown Toronto, where homeless men aged 50 and over
> > > > > are welcome during the 11 hours daily, when the hostels are
closed.
> > > > > They can shower there. They can get clothing. They can have a
hot
> > > > > meal. They can play cards. They are made welcome.
> > > > >
> > > > > You see, I don't just "talk the talk". I also "walk the walk"
> > > >
> > > > And is willing to force everyone else to walk like he does... which
is
> > his
> > > > crucial flaw.
> > > >
> > > > He sees himself as *willing* to donate, but feels the heavy boot of
> > > > government is needed to force his neighbours to do likewise.
> > > >
> > > > Also, pointing out the reasons why this is an unacceptable use of
> > > government
> > > > authority, instantly makes you worthy to be called "some kind of
> > > ultra-right
> > > > wing fanatic" or some such other epithet of equal obsurdity.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
--
http://www.bcrevolution.ca/
"Mage" <mage@no-spam> wrote in message
news:X68Oa.375091$3C2.10281027@no-spam
>
> "»Tylêr Dûrdên«" <t_durdre@no-spam> wrote in message
> news:4oLLa.320390$ro6.7817194@no-spam
> >
> >
> > --
> > http://www.bcrevolution.ca/
> > <nshinede@no-spam> wrote in message
> > news:GAfLa.5518$xv.506@no-spam
> > > I liked the state line signs that Pennsylvania used to have between
the
> > > People's Republic of New Jersey and PA. They read "America begins
here"
> >
> > My Dad went to school in Pennsylvania.... took underwater accoustics. He
> > also worked on the Avro Arrow.
> >
> > Lets face it, the men that founded the US are heros in the fullest
sense,
> > and i have nothing but the utmost respect for them. Country building is
> not
> > dead yet either, so governments had best be warned what their place is.
>
> Uh huh.... .yea... those 'pioneers'
I'd say coming to a strange land with a new constitution was rather
poineering, wouldn't you?
> Do you know any history other than your cherished 'magna carta' ????
Yeah, why? What's wrong with the Magna Carta? Have you read it?
> The only reason _any_ americans manager _any_ rights is because there
> happened to be one 'aristocracy' opposed to another.
If the Crown had followed its own law, there would likely have been no
American revolution.
But if you are trying to say that a democracy will always turn into a
tyranny over time, that much does seem true.
"Experience hath shown, that even under the best forms [of government] those
entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it
into tyranny." -Thomas Jefferson, Bill for the More General diffusion of
Knowledge (1778).
> the other had the unfortunate need of volunteers.
>
> If you doubt this, just ask yourself, if they were indeed 'nation'
builders,
> what year did _all_ americans gain the right to vote?
More importantly, what authority was used to gain it?
> > > "»Tylêr Dûrdên«" <t_durdre@no-spam> wrote in message
> > > news:lc3La.333981$Vi5.8468653@no-spam
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > http://www.bcrevolution.ca/
> > > > <nshinede@no-spam> wrote in message
> > > > news:70XKa.5407$xv.667@no-spam
> > > > > Tyler,
> > > > >
> > > > > Thats wonderful, to stop a suicide, kill him! They certainly
> prevented
> > > the
> > > > > suicide!
> > > > >
> > > > > So far, here in the states, they've not managed to totally disarm
> us.
> > > > >
> > > > > I liked the statement of the Governer of Pennsylvania after Reno's
> > > > Ranger's
> > > > > and the Clinton Kommando's shot up Waco, TX.
> > > > >
> > > > > He said, I quote: "If they ever try that here, they will face more
> > guns
> > > > > going out than they did comming in."
> > > > >
> > > > > They left Pennsalvania alone.
> > > >
> > > > Excellent! Good to see a Governor sticking up for his peoples
liberty.
> > > >
> > > > And I've always liked New Hampshire's license plate slogan: "Live
free
> > or
> > > > Die".
> > > >
> > > > > "»Tylêr Dûrdên«" <t_durdre@no-spam> wrote in message
> > > > > news:H_LKa.299343$ro6.7407613@no-spam
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > http://www.bcrevolution.ca/
> > > > > > <nshinede@no-spam> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:KlgKa.4692$xv.1067@no-spam
> > > > > > > Tyler! A proud title, that! I've been called worse! Do you
think
> > > they
> > > > > will
> > > > > > > make us the next Ruby Ridge or Waco?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > When you have a high court tribunal essentually saying nobody
has
> > > > rights,
> > > > > > just government privleges, it's just a question of time.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The federal government has me listed on their website hitlist
for
> > > > > > "hatecrimes" because of the work that i have done to protect
> > > individual
> > > > > > liberty and justice.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > You know, these extreme left wing governments have shot up and
> > > burned
> > > > > two
> > > > > > > "compounds" of "right wing extremists" now, . Willie, Silly
> > Hillary,
> > > > and
> > > > > > Big
> > > > > > > J Reno in charge, murdered all those families and children.
Used
> > > tanks
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > aircraft to do it!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yeah, then lied about the facts, just like they always do.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I suppose when they feel their words are like unto God as far as
> > > > creating
> > > > > > law goes, everything they say is, to them at least, a form of
> truth.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > We hav'nt done a thing, but were always called the "rednecks"
> with
> > > > guns
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > camo, waiting our chance to get them.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The first right is the right of self-defense.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Based on reality, on facts, who are the real rednecks shooting
> up
> > > the
> > > > > > > country, and killing the kids? Do you suppose thats why they
> want
> > to
> > > > ban
> > > > > > > guns? They don't trust themselves with them?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I think the following says it all....
> > > > > > http://www.bcrevolution.ca/government_thugs.htm
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > "»Tylêr Dûrdên«" <t_durdre@no-spam> wrote in message
> > > > > > > news:8xwIa.267999$Vi5.7068952@no-spam
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > http://www.bcrevolution.ca/
> > > > > > > > "John Carrick" <jcarr@no-spam> wrote in message
> > > > > > > > news:737fevcet0v1bdsrn66ftnrbkjce3lo4a3@no-spam
> > > > > > > > > On Wed, 11 Jun 2003 13:51:49 GMT,
<nshinede@no-spam>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >Ya, well, John, when was the last time you gave your
money
> to
> > > > > support
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > >"homeless," or anyone else?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I recently donated $500 to "the Good Neighbour's Club".
It
> > > > provides
> > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > building in downtown Toronto, where homeless men aged 50
and
> > > over
> > > > > > > > > are welcome during the 11 hours daily, when the hostels
are
> > > > closed.
> > > > > > > > > They can shower there. They can get clothing. They can
> have
> > a
> > > > hot
> > > > > > > > > meal. They can play cards. They are made welcome.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > You see, I don't just "talk the talk". I also "walk the
> walk"
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > And is willing to force everyone else to walk like he
does...
> > > which
> > > > is
> > > > > > his
> > > > > > > > crucial flaw.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > He sees himself as *willing* to donate, but feels the heavy
> boot
> > > of
> > > > > > > > government is needed to force his neighbours to do likewise.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Also, pointing out the reasons why this is an unacceptable
use
> > of
> > > > > > > government
> > > > > > > > authority, instantly makes you worthy to be called "some
kind
> of
> > > > > > > ultra-right
> > > > > > > > wing fanatic" or some such other epithet of equal obsurdity.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
--
http://www.bcrevolution.ca/
"Mage" <mage@no-spam> wrote in message
news:m48Oa.375045$3C2.10279779@no-spam
>
> "»Tylêr Dûrdên«" <t_durdre@no-spam> wrote in message
> news:H_LKa.299343$ro6.7407613@no-spam
> >
> >
> > --
> > http://www.bcrevolution.ca/
> > <nshinede@no-spam> wrote in message
> > news:KlgKa.4692$xv.1067@no-spam
> > > Tyler! A proud title, that! I've been called worse! Do you think they
> will
> > > make us the next Ruby Ridge or Waco?
> >
> > When you have a high court tribunal essentually saying nobody has
rights,
> > just government privleges, it's just a question of time.
> >
> > The federal government has me listed on their website hitlist for
> > "hatecrimes" because of the work that i have done to protect individual
> > liberty and justice.
>
> Oh?
>
> URL please?
Havn't you been given it three times already? Or was it someone else?
Anyhow, here it is.... go to page 86 or so.
http://www.swc-cfc.gc.ca/pubs/0662882857/index_e.html
> > > You know, these extreme left wing governments have shot up and burned
> two
> > > "compounds" of "right wing extremists" now, . Willie, Silly Hillary,
and
> > Big
> > > J Reno in charge, murdered all those families and children. Used tanks
> and
> > > aircraft to do it!
> >
> > Yeah, then lied about the facts, just like they always do.
> >
> > I suppose when they feel their words are like unto God as far as
creating
> > law goes, everything they say is, to them at least, a form of truth.
> >
> > > We hav'nt done a thing, but were always called the "rednecks" with
guns
> > and
> > > camo, waiting our chance to get them.
> >
> > The first right is the right of self-defense.
> >
> > > Based on reality, on facts, who are the real rednecks shooting up the
> > > country, and killing the kids? Do you suppose thats why they want to
ban
> > > guns? They don't trust themselves with them?
> >
> > I think the following says it all....
> > http://www.bcrevolution.ca/government_thugs.htm
I'm the one on the 'hitlist'....
I'm sure he ment no confusion...
I'm on the list because of my defense of personal liberty.
True north strong and free?? Yeah, not bloody likely!
--
http://www.bcrevolution.ca/
<nshinede@no-spam> wrote in message
news:0ydOa.14725$xv.7486@no-spam
> Mage; you are quite simply a liar.
>
> Anyone who reads my posts knows I am not on any federal list as a "hate
> crime" suspect,
> nor have I ever posted anything similar to the messages you suscribe to me
> below the first paragraph.
>
> Your just foolish to try to fake posts. You expose yourself as a little,
> sneaky liar to the world.
> "Mage" <mage@no-spam> wrote in message
> news:m48Oa.375045$3C2.10279779@no-spam
> >
> > "»Tylêr Dûrdên«" <t_durdre@no-spam> wrote in message
> > news:H_LKa.299343$ro6.7407613@no-spam
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > http://www.bcrevolution.ca/
> > > <nshinede@no-spam> wrote in message
> > > news:KlgKa.4692$xv.1067@no-spam
> > > > Tyler! A proud title, that! I've been called worse! Do you think
they
> > will
> > > > make us the next Ruby Ridge or Waco?
> > >
> > > When you have a high court tribunal essentually saying nobody has
> rights,
> > > just government privleges, it's just a question of time.
> > >
> > > The federal government has me listed on their website hitlist for
> > > "hatecrimes" because of the work that i have done to protect
individual
> > > liberty and justice.
> >
> > Oh?
> >
> > URL please?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > > You know, these extreme left wing governments have shot up and
burned
> > two
> > > > "compounds" of "right wing extremists" now, . Willie, Silly Hillary,
> and
> > > Big
> > > > J Reno in charge, murdered all those families and children. Used
tanks
> > and
> > > > aircraft to do it!
> > >
> > > Yeah, then lied about the facts, just like they always do.
> > >
> > > I suppose when they feel their words are like unto God as far as
> creating
> > > law goes, everything they say is, to them at least, a form of truth.
> > >
> > > > We hav'nt done a thing, but were always called the "rednecks" with
> guns
> > > and
> > > > camo, waiting our chance to get them.
> > >
> > > The first right is the right of self-defense.
> > >
> > > > Based on reality, on facts, who are the real rednecks shooting up
the
> > > > country, and killing the kids? Do you suppose thats why they want to
> ban
> > > > guns? They don't trust themselves with them?
> > >
> > > I think the following says it all....
> > > http://www.bcrevolution.ca/government_thugs.htm
> > >
> > >
> > > > "»Tylêr Dûrdên«" <t_durdre@no-spam> wrote in message
> > > > news:8xwIa.267999$Vi5.7068952@no-spam
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > http://www.bcrevolution.ca/
> > > > > "John Carrick" <jcarr@no-spam> wrote in message
> > > > > news:737fevcet0v1bdsrn66ftnrbkjce3lo4a3@no-spam
> > > > > > On Wed, 11 Jun 2003 13:51:49 GMT, <nshinede@no-spam>
> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >Ya, well, John, when was the last time you gave your money to
> > support
> > > > the
> > > > > > >"homeless," or anyone else?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I recently donated $500 to "the Good Neighbour's Club". It
> provides
> > a
> > > > > > building in downtown Toronto, where homeless men aged 50 and
over
> > > > > > are welcome during the 11 hours daily, when the hostels are
> closed.
> > > > > > They can shower there. They can get clothing. They can have a
> hot
> > > > > > meal. They can play cards. They are made welcome.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You see, I don't just "talk the talk". I also "walk the walk"
> > > > >
> > > > > And is willing to force everyone else to walk like he does...
which
> is
> > > his
> > > > > crucial flaw.
> > > > >
> > > > > He sees himself as *willing* to donate, but feels the heavy boot
of
> > > > > government is needed to force his neighbours to do likewise.
> > > > >
> > > > > Also, pointing out the reasons why this is an unacceptable use of
> > > > government
> > > > > authority, instantly makes you worthy to be called "some kind of
> > > > ultra-right
> > > > > wing fanatic" or some such other epithet of equal obsurdity.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
"»Tylêr Dûrdên«" <t_durdre@no-spam> wrote in message
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>
>
> --
> http://www.bcrevolution.ca/
> "Mage" <mage@no-spam> wrote in message
> news:m48Oa.375045$3C2.10279779@no-spam
...
> > URL please?
>
> Havn't you been given it three times already? Or was it someone else?
> Anyhow, here it is.... go to page 86 or so.
> http://www.swc-cfc.gc.ca/pubs/0662882857/index_e.html
Note the "...gc.ca" suffix.
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> > > > I liked the state line signs that Pennsylvania used to have between
> the
> > > > People's Republic of New Jersey and PA. They read "America begins
> here"
> > >
> > > My Dad went to school in Pennsylvania.... took underwater accoustics.
He
> > > also worked on the Avro Arrow.
> > >
> > > Lets face it, the men that founded the US are heros in the fullest
> sense,
> > > and i have nothing but the utmost respect for them. Country building
is
> > not
> > > dead yet either, so governments had best be warned what their place
is.
> >
> > Uh huh.... .yea... those 'pioneers'
>
> I'd say coming to a strange land with a new constitution was rather
> poineering, wouldn't you?
I dunno, it's just another continnent, only a ship ride away. Perhaps the
pioneering part was the wars against indians?
> > Do you know any history other than your cherished 'magna carta' ????
>
> Yeah, why? What's wrong with the Magna Carta? Have you read it?
I didn't say there was anything wrong with it, did i? I simply asked if you
knew about anything else! very defensive!!!
> > The only reason _any_ americans manager _any_ rights is because there
> > happened to be one 'aristocracy' opposed to another.
>
> If the Crown had followed its own law, there would likely have been no
> American revolution.
This has nothing to do with the crown, it had to do with settlers who had
money here, and didn't want to send any back.
> But if you are trying to say that a democracy will always turn into a
> tyranny over time, that much does seem true.
I didn't say that anywhere.. What i did say was when this supposed 'dream'
america started, it wasn't the mythical land of the free that you seem to
have conjured up.
> > the other had the unfortunate need of volunteers.
> >
> > If you doubt this, just ask yourself, if they were indeed 'nation'
> builders,
> > what year did _all_ americans gain the right to vote?
>
> More importantly, what authority was used to gain it?
Perhaps, but you don't answer my question, nor do you really
refute/respond/agree to any of my posts, but merely express your opinion on
points you with to make, without regard for dialogue.
;-0
> > > > "»Tylêr Dûrdên«" <t_durdre@no-spam> wrote in message
> > > > news:lc3La.333981$Vi5.8468653@no-spam
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > http://www.bcrevolution.ca/
> > > > > <nshinede@no-spam> wrote in message
> > > > > news:70XKa.5407$xv.667@no-spam
> > > > > > Tyler,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thats wonderful, to stop a suicide, kill him! They certainly
> > prevented
> > > > the
> > > > > > suicide!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So far, here in the states, they've not managed to totally
disarm
> > us.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I liked the statement of the Governer of Pennsylvania after
Reno's
> > > > > Ranger's
> > > > > > and the Clinton Kommando's shot up Waco, TX.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > He said, I quote: "If they ever try that here, they will face
more
> > > guns
> > > > > > going out than they did comming in."
> > > > > >
> > > > > > They left Pennsalvania alone.
> > > > >
> > > > > Excellent! Good to see a Governor sticking up for his peoples
> liberty.
> > > > >
> > > > > And I've always liked New Hampshire's license plate slogan: "Live
> free
> > > or
> > > > > Die".
> > > > >
> > > > > > "»Tylêr Dûrdên«" <t_durdre@no-spam> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:H_LKa.299343$ro6.7407613@no-spam
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > http://www.bcrevolution.ca/
> > > > > > > <nshinede@no-spam> wrote in message
> > > > > > > news:KlgKa.4692$xv.1067@no-spam
> > > > > > > > Tyler! A proud title, that! I've been called worse! Do you
> think
> > > > they
> > > > > > will
> > > > > > > > make us the next Ruby Ridge or Waco?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > When you have a high court tribunal essentually saying nobody
> has
> > > > > rights,
> > > > > > > just government privleges, it's just a question of time.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The federal government has me listed on their website hitlist
> for
> > > > > > > "hatecrimes" because of the work that i have done to protect
> > > > individual
> > > > > > > liberty and justice.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > You know, these extreme left wing governments have shot up
and
> > > > burned
> > > > > > two
> > > > > > > > "compounds" of "right wing extremists" now, . Willie, Silly
> > > Hillary,
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > Big
> > > > > > > > J Reno in charge, murdered all those families and children.
> Used
> > > > tanks
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > aircraft to do it!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Yeah, then lied about the facts, just like they always do.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I suppose when they feel their words are like unto God as far
as
> > > > > creating
> > > > > > > law goes, everything they say is, to them at least, a form of
> > truth.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > We hav'nt done a thing, but were always called the
"rednecks"
> > with
> > > > > guns
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > camo, waiting our chance to get them.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The first right is the right of self-defense.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Based on reality, on facts, who are the real rednecks
shooting
> > up
> > > > the
> > > > > > > > country, and killing the kids? Do you suppose thats why they
> > want
> > > to
> > > > > ban
> > > > > > > > guns? They don't trust themselves with them?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I think the following says it all....
> > > > > > > http://www.bcrevolution.ca/government_thugs.htm
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "»Tylêr Dûrdên«" <t_durdre@no-spam> wrote in
message
> > > > > > > > news:8xwIa.267999$Vi5.7068952@no-spam
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > http://www.bcrevolution.ca/
> > > > > > > > > "John Carrick" <jcarr@no-spam> wrote in message
> > > > > > > > > news:737fevcet0v1bdsrn66ftnrbkjce3lo4a3@no-spam
> > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 11 Jun 2003 13:51:49 GMT,
> <nshinede@no-spam>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >Ya, well, John, when was the last time you gave your
> money
> > to
> > > > > > support
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > >"homeless," or anyone else?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I recently donated $500 to "the Good Neighbour's Club".
> It
> > > > > provides
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > > building in downtown Toronto, where homeless men aged 50
> and
> > > > over
> > > > > > > > > > are welcome during the 11 hours daily, when the hostels
> are
> > > > > closed.
> > > > > > > > > > They can shower there. They can get clothing. They can
> > have
> > > a
> > > > > hot
> > > > > > > > > > meal. They can play cards. They are made welcome.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > You see, I don't just "talk the talk". I also "walk the
> > walk"
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > And is willing to force everyone else to walk like he
> does...
> > > > which
> > > > > is
> > > > > > > his
> > > > > > > > > crucial flaw.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > He sees himself as *willing* to donate, but feels the
heavy
> > boot
> > > > of
> > > > > > > > > government is needed to force his neighbours to do
likewise.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Also, pointing out the reasons why this is an unacceptable
> use
> > > of
> > > > > > > > government
> > > > > > > > > authority, instantly makes you worthy to be called "some
> kind
> > of
> > > > > > > > ultra-right
> > > > > > > > > wing fanatic" or some such other epithet of equal
obsurdity.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
"»Tylêr Dûrdên«" <t_durdre@no-spam> wrote in message
news:xNnOa.409149$Vi5.10519124@no-spam
> I'm the one on the 'hitlist'....
>
> I'm sure he ment no confusion...
>
> I'm on the list because of my defense of personal liberty.
>
> True north strong and free?? Yeah, not bloody likely!
Which 'list' and if you know you are on it, then you must also be able to
view it...
URL please?
> --
> http://www.bcrevolution.ca/
> <nshinede@no-spam> wrote in message
> news:0ydOa.14725$xv.7486@no-spam
> > Mage; you are quite simply a liar.
> >
> > Anyone who reads my posts knows I am not on any federal list as a "hate
> > crime" suspect,
> > nor have I ever posted anything similar to the messages you suscribe to
me
> > below the first paragraph.
> >
> > Your just foolish to try to fake posts. You expose yourself as a little,
> > sneaky liar to the world.
> > "Mage" <mage@no-spam> wrote in message
> > news:m48Oa.375045$3C2.10279779@no-spam
> > >
> > > "»Tylêr Dûrdên«" <t_durdre@no-spam> wrote in message
> > > news:H_LKa.299343$ro6.7407613@no-spam
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > http://www.bcrevolution.ca/
> > > > <nshinede@no-spam> wrote in message
> > > > news:KlgKa.4692$xv.1067@no-spam
> > > > > Tyler! A proud title, that! I've been called worse! Do you think
> they
> > > will
> > > > > make us the next Ruby Ridge or Waco?
> > > >
> > > > When you have a high court tribunal essentually saying nobody has
> > rights,
> > > > just government privleges, it's just a question of time.
> > > >
> > > > The federal government has me listed on their website hitlist for
> > > > "hatecrimes" because of the work that i have done to protect
> individual
> > > > liberty and justice.
> > >
> > > Oh?
> > >
> > > URL please?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > > You know, these extreme left wing governments have shot up and
> burned
> > > two
> > > > > "compounds" of "right wing extremists" now, . Willie, Silly
Hillary,
> > and
> > > > Big
> > > > > J Reno in charge, murdered all those families and children. Used
> tanks
> > > and
> > > > > aircraft to do it!
> > > >
> > > > Yeah, then lied about the facts, just like they always do.
> > > >
> > > > I suppose when they feel their words are like unto God as far as
> > creating
> > > > law goes, everything they say is, to them at least, a form of truth.
> > > >
> > > > > We hav'nt done a thing, but were always called the "rednecks" with
> > guns
> > > > and
> > > > > camo, waiting our chance to get them.
> > > >
> > > > The first right is the right of self-defense.
> > > >
> > > > > Based on reality, on facts, who are the real rednecks shooting up
> the
> > > > > country, and killing the kids? Do you suppose thats why they want
to
> > ban
> > > > > guns? They don't trust themselves with them?
> > > >
> > > > I think the following says it all....
> > > > http://www.bcrevolution.ca/government_thugs.htm
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > "»Tylêr Dûrdên«" <t_durdre@no-spam> wrote in message
> > > > > news:8xwIa.267999$Vi5.7068952@no-spam
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > http://www.bcrevolution.ca/
> > > > > > "John Carrick" <jcarr@no-spam> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:737fevcet0v1bdsrn66ftnrbkjce3lo4a3@no-spam
> > > > > > > On Wed, 11 Jun 2003 13:51:49 GMT, <nshinede@no-spam>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >Ya, well, John, when was the last time you gave your money to
> > > support
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > >"homeless," or anyone else?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I recently donated $500 to "the Good Neighbour's Club". It
> > provides
> > > a
> > > > > > > building in downtown Toronto, where homeless men aged 50 and
> over
> > > > > > > are welcome during the 11 hours daily, when the hostels are
> > closed.
> > > > > > > They can shower there. They can get clothing. They can have
a
> > hot
> > > > > > > meal. They can play cards. They are made welcome.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > You see, I don't just "talk the talk". I also "walk the walk"
> > > > > >
> > > > > > And is willing to force everyone else to walk like he does...
> which
> > is
> > > > his
> > > > > > crucial flaw.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > He sees himself as *willing* to donate, but feels the heavy boot
> of
> > > > > > government is needed to force his neighbours to do likewise.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Also, pointing out the reasons why this is an unacceptable use
of
> > > > > government
> > > > > > authority, instantly makes you worthy to be called "some kind of
> > > > > ultra-right
> > > > > > wing fanatic" or some such other epithet of equal obsurdity.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
I don't see it htere...
"»Tylêr Dûrdên«" <t_durdre@no-spam> wrote in message
news:HLnOa.383255$ro6.9248639@no-spam
>
>
> --
> http://www.bcrevolution.ca/
> "Mage" <mage@no-spam> wrote in message
> news:m48Oa.375045$3C2.10279779@no-spam
> >
> > "»Tylêr Dûrdên«" <t_durdre@no-spam> wrote in message
> > news:H_LKa.299343$ro6.7407613@no-spam
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > http://www.bcrevolution.ca/
> > > <nshinede@no-spam> wrote in message
> > > news:KlgKa.4692$xv.1067@no-spam
> > > > Tyler! A proud title, that! I've been called worse! Do you think
they
> > will
> > > > make us the next Ruby Ridge or Waco?
> > >
> > > When you have a high court tribunal essentually saying nobody has
> rights,
> > > just government privleges, it's just a question of time.
> > >
> > > The federal government has me listed on their website hitlist for
> > > "hatecrimes" because of the work that i have done to protect
individual
> > > liberty and justice.
> >
> > Oh?
> >
> > URL please?
>
> Havn't you been given it three times already? Or was it someone else?
> Anyhow, here it is.... go to page 86 or so.
> http://www.swc-cfc.gc.ca/pubs/0662882857/index_e.html
>
> > > > You know, these extreme left wing governments have shot up and
burned
> > two
> > > > "compounds" of "right wing extremists" now, . Willie, Silly Hillary,
> and
> > > Big
> > > > J Reno in charge, murdered all those families and children. Used
tanks
> > and
> > > > aircraft to do it!
> > >
> > > Yeah, then lied about the facts, just like they always do.
> > >
> > > I suppose when they feel their words are like unto God as far as
> creating
> > > law goes, everything they say is, to them at least, a form of truth.
> > >
> > > > We hav'nt done a thing, but were always called the "rednecks" with
> guns
> > > and
> > > > camo, waiting our chance to get them.
> > >
> > > The first right is the right of self-defense.
> > >
> > > > Based on reality, on facts, who are the real rednecks shooting up
the
> > > > country, and killing the kids? Do you suppose thats why they want to
> ban
> > > > guns? They don't trust themselves with them?
> > >
> > > I think the following says it all....
> > > http://www.bcrevolution.ca/government_thugs.htm
>
>
"Mage" <mage@no-spam> wrote in message
news:S6pOa.382168$3C2.10422958@no-spam
>
> "»Tylêr Dûrdên«" <t_durdre@no-spam> wrote in message
> news:HLnOa.383255$ro6.9248639@no-spam
> >
> >
> > --
> > http://www.bcrevolution.ca/
> > "Mage" <mage@no-spam> wrote in message
> > news:m48Oa.375045$3C2.10279779@no-spam
> > >
> > > "»Tylêr Dûrdên«" <t_durdre@no-spam> wrote in message
> > > news:H_LKa.299343$ro6.7407613@no-spam
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > http://www.bcrevolution.ca/
> > > > <nshinede@no-spam> wrote in message
> > > > news:KlgKa.4692$xv.1067@no-spam
> > > > > Tyler! A proud title, that! I've been called worse! Do you think
> they
> > > will
> > > > > make us the next Ruby Ridge or Waco?
> > > >
> > > > When you have a high court tribunal essentually saying nobody has
> > rights,
> > > > just government privleges, it's just a question of time.
> > > >
> > > > The federal government has me listed on their website hitlist for
> > > > "hatecrimes" because of the work that i have done to protect
> individual
> > > > liberty and justice.
> > >
> > > Oh?
> > >
> > > URL please?
> >
> > Havn't you been given it three times already? Or was it someone else?
> > Anyhow, here it is.... go to page 86 or so.
> > http://www.swc-cfc.gc.ca/pubs/0662882857/index_e.html
>
> the pdf does not work, the html would take years to wade through, can you
> give me a direct link?
http://www.swc-cfc.gc.ca/pubs/0662882857/200303_0662882857_20_e.html#2
Well, Mage, here you go again!
Yes, I have probably read more history before I was five years old and you
have in your entire life.
Show me one human being, one nation, that has never done a wrong nor made a
mistake.
Every single inch of this world has been contested and stolen, by humans
individually and as nations, many times.
Every race has been raped, murdered, and enslaved, back into prehistory,
since the very begining of the human race.
Absolutely no one, individually or as a race or nation, is innocent. We are
all morally guilty. We are all murderers, at the very top of the food chain.
We remodel and destroy the entire earth, at our pleasure. The strongest and
most feared animals run from us in their fear of us, as we continue to
destroy them, not for food, but simply for fun.
In the United States, we subjugated, yes, almost destroyed the proud warrier
race of native Americans. We took their land, and forced them to live on
reservations.
We owned slaves, and we fought our own civil war over that.
All that being said, do we just quit, sit in a corner, hide under our beds,
no longer try???
I would submit to you that this nation, the United States, IS the last, best
hope of the entire world. We ARE the policemen of the world, and our young
die every single day in that duty.
God help us. We will make mistakes. But we are here, doing what we can. I
hope for your sake, you never see a world without us there.
"Mage" <mage@no-spam> wrote in message
news:X68Oa.375091$3C2.10281027@no-spam
>
> "»Tylêr Dûrdên«" <t_durdre@no-spam> wrote in message
> news:4oLLa.320390$ro6.7817194@no-spam
> >
> >
> > --
> > http://www.bcrevolution.ca/
> > <nshinede@no-spam> wrote in message
> > news:GAfLa.5518$xv.506@no-spam
> > > I liked the state line signs that Pennsylvania used to have between
the
> > > People's Republic of New Jersey and PA. They read "America begins
here"
> >
> > My Dad went to school in Pennsylvania.... took underwater accoustics. He
> > also worked on the Avro Arrow.
> >
> > Lets face it, the men that founded the US are heros in the fullest
sense,
> > and i have nothing but the utmost respect for them. Country building is
> not
> > dead yet either, so governments had best be warned what their place is.
>
> Uh huh.... .yea... those 'pioneers'
>
> Do you know any history other than your cherished 'magna carta' ????
>
> The only reason _any_ americans manager _any_ rights is because there
> happened to be one 'aristocracy' opposed to another.
>
> the other had the unfortunate need of volunteers.
>
> If you doubt this, just ask yourself, if they were indeed 'nation'
builders,
> what year did _all_ americans gain the right to vote?
>
>
>
>
>
> >
> > > "»Tylêr Dûrdên«" <t_durdre@no-spam> wrote in message
> > > news:lc3La.333981$Vi5.8468653@no-spam
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > http://www.bcrevolution.ca/
> > > > <nshinede@no-spam> wrote in message
> > > > news:70XKa.5407$xv.667@no-spam
> > > > > Tyler,
> > > > >
> > > > > Thats wonderful, to stop a suicide, kill him! They certainly
> prevented
> > > the
> > > > > suicide!
> > > > >
> > > > > So far, here in the states, they've not managed to totally disarm
> us.
> > > > >
> > > > > I liked the statement of the Governer of Pennsylvania after Reno's
> > > > Ranger's
> > > > > and the Clinton Kommando's shot up Waco, TX.
> > > > >
> > > > > He said, I quote: "If they ever try that here, they will face more
> > guns
> > > > > going out than they did comming in."
> > > > >
> > > > > They left Pennsalvania alone.
> > > >
> > > > Excellent! Good to see a Governor sticking up for his peoples
liberty.
> > > >
> > > > And I've always liked New Hampshire's license plate slogan: "Live
free
> > or
> > > > Die".
> > > >
> > > > > "»Tylêr Dûrdên«" <t_durdre@no-spam> wrote in message
> > > > > news:H_LKa.299343$ro6.7407613@no-spam
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > http://www.bcrevolution.ca/
> > > > > > <nshinede@no-spam> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:KlgKa.4692$xv.1067@no-spam
> > > > > > > Tyler! A proud title, that! I've been called worse! Do you
think
> > > they
> > > > > will
> > > > > > > make us the next Ruby Ridge or Waco?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > When you have a high court tribunal essentually saying nobody
has
> > > > rights,
> > > > > > just government privleges, it's just a question of time.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The federal government has me listed on their website hitlist
for
> > > > > > "hatecrimes" because of the work that i have done to protect
> > > individual
> > > > > > liberty and justice.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > You know, these extreme left wing governments have shot up and
> > > burned
> > > > > two
> > > > > > > "compounds" of "right wing extremists" now, . Willie, Silly
> > Hillary,
> > > > and
> > > > > > Big
> > > > > > > J Reno in charge, murdered all those families and children.
Used
> > > tanks
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > aircraft to do it!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yeah, then lied about the facts, just like they always do.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I suppose when they feel their words are like unto God as far as
> > > > creating
> > > > > > law goes, everything they say is, to them at least, a form of
> truth.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > We hav'nt done a thing, but were always called the "rednecks"
> with
> > > > guns
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > camo, waiting our chance to get them.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The first right is the right of self-defense.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Based on reality, on facts, who are the real rednecks shooting
> up
> > > the
> > > > > > > country, and killing the kids? Do you suppose thats why they
> want
> > to
> > > > ban
> > > > > > > guns? They don't trust themselves with them?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I think the following says it all....
> > > > > > http://www.bcrevolution.ca/government_thugs.htm
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > "»Tylêr Dûrdên«" <t_durdre@no-spam> wrote in message
> > > > > > > news:8xwIa.267999$Vi5.7068952@no-spam
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > http://www.bcrevolution.ca/
> > > > > > > > "John Carrick" <jcarr@no-spam> wrote in message
> > > > > > > > news:737fevcet0v1bdsrn66ftnrbkjce3lo4a3@no-spam
> > > > > > > > > On Wed, 11 Jun 2003 13:51:49 GMT,
<nshinede@no-spam>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >Ya, well, John, when was the last time you gave your
money
> to
> > > > > support
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > >"homeless," or anyone else?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I recently donated $500 to "the Good Neighbour's Club".
It
> > > > provides
> > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > building in downtown Toronto, where homeless men aged 50
and
> > > over
> > > > > > > > > are welcome during the 11 hours daily, when the hostels
are
> > > > closed.
> > > > > > > > > They can shower there. They can get clothing. They can
> have
> > a
> > > > hot
> > > > > > > > > meal. They can play cards. They are made welcome.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > You see, I don't just "talk the talk". I also "walk the
> walk"
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > And is willing to force everyone else to walk like he
does...
> > > which
> > > > is
> > > > > > his
> > > > > > > > crucial flaw.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > He sees himself as *willing* to donate, but feels the heavy
> boot
> > > of
> > > > > > > > government is needed to force his neighbours to do likewise.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Also, pointing out the reasons why this is an unacceptable
use
> > of
> > > > > > > government
> > > > > > > > authority, instantly makes you worthy to be called "some
kind
> of
> > > > > > > ultra-right
> > > > > > > > wing fanatic" or some such other epithet of equal obsurdity.
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> > > > > >
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> Don't be silly.... It was the constitution of the US that freed the
slaves,
> AND gave everyone the right to vote. Something seen in few other places
> beforehand...
Oh? what year did the constitution get signed?
What year did non landowners first get to vote?
What year did blacks get to vote?
What year did women first get to vote?
You may answer in that order...
;-)
> Principles are only of value if they are followed, but that doesn't mean
the
> principles are wrong. You seem to be throwing out the baby with the
> bathwater..
>
"Mage" <mage@no-spam> wrote in message
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> > Don't be silly.... It was the constitution of the US that freed the
> slaves,
> > AND gave everyone the right to vote. Something seen in few other places
> > beforehand...
>
> Oh? what year did the constitution get signed?
>
> What year did non landowners first get to vote?
> What year did blacks get to vote?
> What year did women first get to vote?
>
> You may answer in that order...
>
> ;-)
Those things were done based on the principles of their constitution.
Without the constitutional requirements, they may never have happened at
all.
Absolutely correct, Tickle Mi!
In fact, in my humble opinion, my country has gone so far now, that we have
bunches of people who think they have absolutely no duties nor personal
responsibilities, just "rights" to do whatever they want.
Hell, they even think now if they get fat, it not "THEIR fault", the people
that sold them the food are responsibile! Their trying to sue for that!!!
Now, how much more "freedom" can we allow and finance as a society?
If they get lung cancer from sucking tobaco, they sue for that! Like they
did'nt know that was the ultimate result of THEIR choice??
Whatever happened to common sense?
"Tickle Mi" <ticklish@no-spam> wrote in message
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>
> "Mage" <mage@no-spam> wrote in message
> news:qFhPa.404390$ro6.9802290@no-spam
> > > Don't be silly.... It was the constitution of the US that freed the
> > slaves,
> > > AND gave everyone the right to vote. Something seen in few other
places
> > > beforehand...
> >
> > Oh? what year did the constitution get signed?
> >
> > What year did non landowners first get to vote?
> > What year did blacks get to vote?
> > What year did women first get to vote?
> >
> > You may answer in that order...
> >
> > ;-)
>
> Those things were done based on the principles of their constitution.
> Without the constitutional requirements, they may never have happened at
> all.
>
>
>
<nshinede@no-spam> wrote in message
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> Absolutely correct, Tickle Mi!
>
> In fact, in my humble opinion, my country has gone so far now, that we
have
> bunches of people who think they have absolutely no duties nor personal
> responsibilities, just "rights" to do whatever they want.
That isn't possible. In order to acquire any Right, an individual
necessarily accept the relevent reciprocal duty.
> Hell, they even think now if they get fat, it not "THEIR fault", the
people
> that sold them the food are responsibile! Their trying to sue for that!!!
> Now, how much more "freedom" can we allow and finance as a society?
>
> If they get lung cancer from sucking tobaco, they sue for that! Like they
> did'nt know that was the ultimate result of THEIR choice??
The government is suing tobacco companies. Presumably, the government
lawyers are being paid from tobacco taxes.
> Whatever happened to common sense?
It's very uncommon, and always has been.
There isn't any other way it can work. Some liberals understand, some do
not. Some conservatives are no better, many of them think that Rights come
from the bible or some other holy piece of paper.
<nshinede@no-spam> wrote in message
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> Tickle; Tell that to a liberal, and watch the blank expression and the jaw
> drop in return!:-)
> "Tickle Mi" <ticklish@no-spam> wrote in message
> news:OSHPa.413068$3C2.11195708@no-spam
> >
> > <nshinede@no-spam> wrote in message
> > news:2vyPa.18653$xv.17126@no-spam
> > > Absolutely correct, Tickle Mi!
> > >
> > > In fact, in my humble opinion, my country has gone so far now, that we
> > have
> > > bunches of people who think they have absolutely no duties nor
personal
> > > responsibilities, just "rights" to do whatever they want.
> >
> > That isn't possible. In order to acquire any Right, an individual
> > necessarily accept the relevent reciprocal duty.
> >
> >
> > > Hell, they even think now if they get fat, it not "THEIR fault", the
> > people
> > > that sold them the food are responsibile! Their trying to sue for
> that!!!
> > > Now, how much more "freedom" can we allow and finance as a society?
> > >
> > > If they get lung cancer from sucking tobaco, they sue for that! Like
> they
> > > did'nt know that was the ultimate result of THEIR choice??
> >
> > The government is suing tobacco companies. Presumably, the government
> > lawyers are being paid from tobacco taxes.
> >
> >
> > > Whatever happened to common sense?
> >
> > It's very uncommon, and always has been.
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
"Rig