ADOBE INDESIGN WINDOWS 8 RE FIT SELECTION IN WINDOW DOESN T WORK AS ADVERTISED
From: Olav_Kvern@no-spam
Subject: Re: Fit Selection in Window Doesn't Work As Advertised
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 19:52:33 -0800


Dave--

Just for fun, I'd note that the zoom invoked by FreeHand and/or CorelDRAW! is also arbitrary. Sure, it fits the selection into the window, but the resulting magnification is anyone's guess.


If, in InDesign, you want a zoom that's not arbitrary, press Ctrl-- or Ctrl-+ after doing the fit to window. That will zoom to the next "even" magnification percentage.


Thanks,

Ole
















From: Ken_Grace@no-spam
Subject: Re: Fit Selection in Window Doesn't Work As Advertised
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 00:41:06 -0800

Why would you want to magnify to a specific percentage? The object surely is to make whatever you're doing fit into the biggest bit of screen you've got so you can work on it comfortably. All these keyboard shortcuts and what not just cloud the issue. The easiest way is to drag a marquee round the object with the magnifying glass.

k

From: Dave_Saunders@no-spam
Subject: Re: Fit Selection in Window Doesn't Work As Advertised
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 04:49:34 -0800

The easiest way is to drag a marquee round the object with the magnifying glass.

Yep. I think that's why I didn't realize the feature we've been discussing even existed.


Dave

From: Ken_Grace@no-spam
Subject: Re: Fit Selection in Window Doesn't Work As Advertised
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 05:09:24 -0800

Having said that, I do find myself using the 'fit page in window' button on the PageMaker toolbar an awful lot. But that is really just to get to a neutral position. Any detail work is easiest defined by using the magnify tool - and then dragging the box in Navigator to move around.

k

From: Dave_Saunders@no-spam
Subject: Re: Fit Selection in Window Doesn't Work As Advertised
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 05:50:44 -0800

I have Command-Shift-W assigned to Fit Page in Window (on my Mac), following FreeHand's lead.


Very useful, and one-handed.

Dave

From: Uwe_Rottkamp@no-spam
Subject: Re: Fit Selection in Window Doesn't Work As Advertised
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 07:27:38 -0800

Reading you introducing PageMaker I want to ad that the PM-feature right-click zoom-in and zoom-out while the onclick-mouse-position becomes the center of the zoom is the handling tool I'm missing mostly in ID. I did a feature-request to make the right-click editable in the shortcut-preferences hoping someone will see thas this would increase handling-speed for folks like me enormous...

As workaround I defined the funktions-keys F2-F4 with "whole pasteboard",
"fit page to windows" and the here discussed "fit item in window". It's not really what the PM-rightclick does, but gives control in a similar way at one fingertip. Choosing the magnifying-tool to zoom and then switch back to another tool imho is to slow - for heaven's sake <ctrl>+<space>+mouse does a similar job.

Uwe
> the PageMaker toolbar an awful lot. But that is really just to get to a > neutral position. Any detail work is easiest defined by using the magnify > tool - and then dragging the box in Navigator to move around.


From: Ken_Grace@no-spam
Subject: Re: Fit Selection in Window Doesn't Work As Advertised
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 07:47:15 -0800

"Very useful, and one-handed"

As long as you're not a left-handed mouse user - like I am.

k

From: Ken_Grace@no-spam
Subject: Re: Fit Selection in Window Doesn't Work As Advertised
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 07:57:53 -0800

I didn't know about the Ctrl+space+drag shortcut. It's one to try if I remember - and that, I think, is the nub of using shortcuts.

The fastest tools are always the ones that you are familiar with. Having to think beyond intuition slows down the action. Which is why I have stuck with the old cut, copy and paste shortcuts involving the insert and delete keys -
apart from being a left handed mouse user which puts the V, X and C keys on the wrong side of the keyboard.

The PageMaker toolbar also adds incremental zoom in/zoom out buttons and a 'fit actual size' button - I never have discovered what actual size really means.

k

From: Ken_Grace@no-spam
Subject: Re: Fit Selection in Window Doesn't Work As Advertised
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 08:10:10 -0800

I've just realised what's wrong with Ctr+space+click.

You can't zoom and eat a banana at the same time.

k

From: Olav_Kvern@no-spam
Subject: Re: Fit Selection in Window Doesn't Work As Advertised
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 14:11:53 -0800

Uwe--

I am now rushing out to the patent office to file the plans for my new invention--a mouse with a banana holder. A mouse click provides the mechanical power to peel the banana and push it toward a point about two feet in front of the computer screen. I'll split the royalties with you and Ken.


Thanks,

Ole

From: Ken_Grace@no-spam
Subject: Re: Fit Selection in Window Doesn't Work As Advertised
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2004 02:38:19 -0700

Ole. Any chance of an option to butter toast as well?

k