"PC" <get@no-spam> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 29 Jun 2003 12:49:24 +1000, "DRS" <drs@no-spam>
> wrote:
>
>>> OK, so where should cyclists be if not on the road or on the paths?
>>
>>That's not what he's talking about. He's talking about cyclists' almost
>>complete indifference to the road rules, including red lights. They seem
>>to think the rules don't apply to them.
>
> What an utterly mindless post.. I ride a pushbike, and I obey the
> road rules.. What's your problem with "cyclists'"?
No, it's not mindless. It's both an accurate statement of what Kowalski was
talking about and, as it happens, a statement of what I've seen for myself
over many years of being on the roads.
> Meanwhile, I see car drivers every minute on the road not indicating,
> ignoring lane markings, ignoring bike lanes and driving down them,
> speeding, running orange lights and the occasional red light, stopping
> on tram tracks, failing to give way to trams or tram passengers,
> failing to give way to buses pulling out of bus stops, improper use of
> their safety devices (horns), all of which are illegal, and are
> probably cumulatively more prevalent than the usual offences you see
> committed by cyclists.. Of course, they're committed in cars, so
> other car drivers are blind to them, whereas they're certainly not
> blind to offences committed by vehicles other than cars..
>
> How many car drivers here can say they have never illegally used their
> horn as a stress relief device, or failed to give way to a bus pulling
> out of a bus stop, both of which are fineable offences?
All of which has absolutely nothing to do with the point, which is the
widespread failure of cyclists to obey the road rules.
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