AUS CARS 19 RE RIDE MELBOURNE S CITYLINK TUNNEL WITH CRITICAL MASS
From: get@no-spam (PC)
Subject: Re: Ride Melbourne's CityLink Tunnel with Critical Mass!
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2003 03:44:51 GMT


On Sun, 29 Jun 2003 13:10:07 +0930, "Kasper Kowalski"
<kasper.kowalski@no-spam> wrote:

>> How many car drivers here can say they have never illegally used their >> horn as a stress relief device, or failed to give way to a bus pulling >> out of a bus stop, both of which are fineable offences?
>
>How many cyclists have completely disregarded red lights? How many have >failed to stop for pedestrians on crossings? How many cyclists fail to >signal an intention to turn?
>
>If the roads are there for all, so are the road rules.

Well, why don't car drivers start 100% compliance first, then you may collectively have a right to whinge about cyclists non-compliance..

Oh, wait, the Government is so sure that car drivers can't obey the road rules that it is banking on the revenue to run the state.. I guess car drivers are an awful long way off 100% compliance..

PC

From: "Kasper Kowalski" (kasper.kowalski@no-spam)
Subject: Re: Ride Melbourne's CityLink Tunnel with Critical Mass!
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2003 13:23:24 +0930

"PC" <get@no-spam> wrote in message news:3efe6069.78288162@no-spam
> >How many cyclists have completely disregarded red lights? How many have > >failed to stop for pedestrians on crossings? How many cyclists fail to > >signal an intention to turn?
> >
> >If the roads are there for all, so are the road rules.
>
> Well, why don't car drivers start 100% compliance first, then you may > collectively have a right to whinge about cyclists non-compliance..

those of us that do comply have the right to complain about *anyone* that doesn't... car drivers and cyclists alike.

FFS, running red lights, failing to give way to pedestrians are serious offences. I see these things done every day by many cyclists as a matter of course. i don't often see drivers do them.....

> Oh, wait, the Government is so sure that car drivers can't obey the > road rules that it is banking on the revenue to run the state.. I > guess car drivers are an awful long way off 100% compliance..

and what do you suppose contributes primarily to this revenue? parking and speeding fines? technical breaches for the most part, little relevance to danger of the offence.

KK