On Mon, 23 Jun 2003 02:26:09 GMT, Liam Devlin wrote:
> Toby Ponsenby wrote:
>> On Sun, 22 Jun 2003 19:22:50 GMT, Liam Devlin wrote:
>>
>>>Toby Ponsenby wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sun, 22 Jun 2003 12:40:31 GMT, Liam Devlin wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Toby Ponsenby wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Sun, 22 Jun 2003 10:30:16 GMT, George Macdonald wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>From what I hear, Ford is technically
>>>>>>>bankrupt - the only thing going for them is that the banks don't have the
>>>>>>>balls to actually do anything about it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Fom what I hear, the USA is technically bankrupt. No real use sticking it
>>>>>>to Ford:-)
>>>>>
>>>>>How is the US technically bankrupt?
>>>>
>>>>Type "United States Bankrupt" into a Google Search, and go play with the
>>>>results for a while. Do come back with an opinion as to what you find
>>>>there.
>>>
>>>Why would anyone want to do that?
>>
>> Easy - to find out what I know.
>> And to find out a little about why someone would make the claim you're
>> curious about.
>>
>>>>Much more fun for you to do that than for me to explain what I 'heard'.
>>>>Hate to be spreading actual alarm and despondency about the USA - the
>>>>greatest nation on earth.
>>>>It might also imply that I could give a shit about the yankee economy.
>>>
>>>Not to worry.
>>
>> So your challenge was some sort of defence mechanism?
>> Bit of bad luck when the search turns up American sites critical of
>> American behaviour.
>> 'Not to worry' is a cop-out.
>> Like I say, I don't give a shit about the Yankee economy,any more than
>> Yankees give a shit about the Australian economy.
>>
>> But given you're a Yankee, I'd suggest you appraise yourself of the
>> situation you are in. It will make a difference to the way you live.
>> And at that point, it'd be a good thing to know what happened.
>> Perhaps you could even do something about the situation, if you know what
>> was going on.
>
> This is very simple, you made a claim and have no cite.
>
> Ta
Just how thick are you?
I said I'd heard stuff about the USA Economy.
Reading and hearing are similar in this context, but for what it's worth,
the matter of the USA Economy being rooted has been discussed in a little
detail on Australian Radio - which I have "heard". Needless to say, I can't
direct you to that - unless you've found some way to out accelerate the
departing waveforms of those broadcasts.
Anyhow, you did the usual shithead thing, and suggested to whatever bored
readership these groups have that I couldn't back up the 'claim' - (your
word) - by asking for information, thinking of course that there wasn't any
available.
There was. There is.
As always, happy to assist, I provided you with an extremely simple means
of accessing it.
It's available to me, and to you, and anybody else reading my post.
If you looked, and I don't believe for one moment you did, the content may
have tampered with your view of the universe, but like I said, I didn't
give a shit.
If you didn't look, and you're too bone idle to type three words into a
search engine, and read a few of the top ranked results, that isn't my
problem.
It's yours.
So, just for fun, lets play the claim cite game your way.
Here is the claim:
You are a fuckwit.
Here is the cite:
"How is the US technically bankrupt?"
"Why would anyone want to do that?"
"Not to worry."
"This is very simple, you made a claim and have no cite."
Happy now?
--
Toby
quidquid latine dictum
sit, altum viditur
i didn't waste my time inputting that search because i
don't much care for uninformed trite, but i'll still speak.
(forgive my ignorance)
technically bankrupt is kinda redundant to start. bankrupcy
is all technical. economically, the US is almost the most sound
country(our poor live better than 70% of the rest of the world)
sorry if the US dollar can't compete with the Euro, but its hard
to top some 15 countries.
if you didn't know, our government had a surplus of money last
year, in which they gave back to nearly all eligible citizens. and
they are doing something similar this year.
anyway, you keep posting and we'll keep building the computers
and lines for you to send those posts.
ok, back to the cars.
"Toby Ponsenby" <lord_ponsenby@no-spam> wrote in message
news:vzkxrnj80wc9$.1h147eshlywv4.dlg@no-spam
> On Mon, 23 Jun 2003 02:26:09 GMT, Liam Devlin wrote:
>
> > Toby Ponsenby wrote:
> >> On Sun, 22 Jun 2003 19:22:50 GMT, Liam Devlin wrote:
> >>
> >>>Toby Ponsenby wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>On Sun, 22 Jun 2003 12:40:31 GMT, Liam Devlin wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>Toby Ponsenby wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>On Sun, 22 Jun 2003 10:30:16 GMT, George Macdonald wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>From what I hear, Ford is technically
> >>>>>>>bankrupt - the only thing going for them is that the banks don't
have the
> >>>>>>>balls to actually do anything about it.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Fom what I hear, the USA is technically bankrupt. No real use
sticking it
> >>>>>>to Ford:-)
> >>>>>
> >>>>>How is the US technically bankrupt?
> >>>>
> >>>>Type "United States Bankrupt" into a Google Search, and go play with
the
> >>>>results for a while. Do come back with an opinion as to what you find
> >>>>there.
> >>>
> >>>Why would anyone want to do that?
> >>
> >> Easy - to find out what I know.
> >> And to find out a little about why someone would make the claim you're
> >> curious about.
> >>
> >>>>Much more fun for you to do that than for me to explain what I
'heard'.
> >>>>Hate to be spreading actual alarm and despondency about the USA - the
> >>>>greatest nation on earth.
> >>>>It might also imply that I could give a shit about the yankee economy.
> >>>
> >>>Not to worry.
> >>
> >> So your challenge was some sort of defence mechanism?
> >> Bit of bad luck when the search turns up American sites critical of
> >> American behaviour.
> >> 'Not to worry' is a cop-out.
> >> Like I say, I don't give a shit about the Yankee economy,any more than
> >> Yankees give a shit about the Australian economy.
> >>
> >> But given you're a Yankee, I'd suggest you appraise yourself of the
> >> situation you are in. It will make a difference to the way you live.
> >> And at that point, it'd be a good thing to know what happened.
> >> Perhaps you could even do something about the situation, if you know
what
> >> was going on.
> >
> > This is very simple, you made a claim and have no cite.
> >
> > Ta
>
> Just how thick are you?
> I said I'd heard stuff about the USA Economy.
> Reading and hearing are similar in this context, but for what it's worth,
> the matter of the USA Economy being rooted has been discussed in a little
> detail on Australian Radio - which I have "heard". Needless to say, I
can't
> direct you to that - unless you've found some way to out accelerate the
> departing waveforms of those broadcasts.
> Anyhow, you did the usual shithead thing, and suggested to whatever bored
> readership these groups have that I couldn't back up the 'claim' - (your
> word) - by asking for information, thinking of course that there wasn't
any
> available.
> There was. There is.
> As always, happy to assist, I provided you with an extremely simple means
> of accessing it.
> It's available to me, and to you, and anybody else reading my post.
> If you looked, and I don't believe for one moment you did, the content may
> have tampered with your view of the universe, but like I said, I didn't
> give a shit.
> If you didn't look, and you're too bone idle to type three words into a
> search engine, and read a few of the top ranked results, that isn't my
> problem.
> It's yours.
>
> So, just for fun, lets play the claim cite game your way.
> Here is the claim:
> You are a fuckwit.
>
> Here is the cite:
> "How is the US technically bankrupt?"
> "Why would anyone want to do that?"
> "Not to worry."
> "This is very simple, you made a claim and have no cite."
>
> Happy now?
>
> --
> Toby
>
> quidquid latine dictum
> sit, altum viditur
> if you didn't know, our government had a surplus of money last
> year, in which they gave back to nearly all eligible citizens. and
> they are doing something similar this year.
riiiight. keep believing that, chachi. wanna know one reason the dollars so
weak? because we are going into debt, again. reaganomics didnt work the
first time, and its not going to work again.
On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 00:14:37 -0400, tomk wrote:
> i didn't waste my time inputting that search because i
> don't much care for uninformed trite, but i'll still speak.
> (forgive my ignorance)
As long as it's uninformed, that's fine, top poster.
>
> technically bankrupt is kinda redundant to start. bankrupcy
> is all technical. economically, the US is almost the most sound
> country(our poor live better than 70% of the rest of the world)
what a brag... You absolutley sure your poor live better?
How nice for them. Where's the smilie after that statement?
It has to be some sort of joke? Right?
If it's not, it's just plain sad.
> sorry if the US dollar can't compete with the Euro, but its hard
> to top some 15 countries.
You will be sorry - yes. And your poor will be poorer than they are now.
>
> if you didn't know, our government had a surplus of money last
> year, in which they gave back to nearly all eligible citizens. and
> they are doing something similar this year.
Yeah, saw somethiong about that. The only similarity is that some money is
'not' being taken away.
Who it's not being taken away from bears checking.
>
> anyway, you keep posting and we'll keep building the computers
> and lines for you to send those posts.
I don't have one solitary USA made computer part in this machine.
Not one. I'd doubt there'd be any on yours as well. Do check.
All you lot got from my PC were a few bucks in royalties.
And it's all you lot deserve.
Even the Windoze OP system is (genuinely) from Asia.
Just checking what's running now....
Other software is European, Australian, or Japanese.
I don't count Open Office as Yankee particularly.
Whoops, Sun's Java is USA origin.
Wow, that's a problem - thank you for reminding me.
Now to get rid of it.
The "lines" USA owns are in the USA. So, the route you use to get this
reply might be Yankee, but only the piece of it within your borders.
>
> ok, back to the cars.
Sure.
BTW, I don't have any American cars either.
And I'm glad of that beyond measure.
Note. I avoided the traditional Yankee habit of bragging about my own
country whenever another country is mentioned.
That's a trick you can strive to emulate.
Good luck to you - you'll need it because at the moment, you're no chance
at all.
>
>
>
> "Toby Ponsenby" <lord_ponsenby@no-spam> wrote in message
> news:vzkxrnj80wc9$.1h147eshlywv4.dlg@no-spam
>> On Mon, 23 Jun 2003 02:26:09 GMT, Liam Devlin wrote:
>>
>>> Toby Ponsenby wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 22 Jun 2003 19:22:50 GMT, Liam Devlin wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Toby Ponsenby wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Sun, 22 Jun 2003 12:40:31 GMT, Liam Devlin wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Toby Ponsenby wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On Sun, 22 Jun 2003 10:30:16 GMT, George Macdonald wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>From what I hear, Ford is technically
>>>>>>>>>bankrupt - the only thing going for them is that the banks don't
> have the
>>>>>>>>>balls to actually do anything about it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Fom what I hear, the USA is technically bankrupt. No real use
> sticking it
>>>>>>>>to Ford:-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>How is the US technically bankrupt?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Type "United States Bankrupt" into a Google Search, and go play with
> the
>>>>>>results for a while. Do come back with an opinion as to what you find
>>>>>>there.
>>>>>
>>>>>Why would anyone want to do that?
>>>>
>>>> Easy - to find out what I know.
>>>> And to find out a little about why someone would make the claim you're
>>>> curious about.
>>>>
>>>>>>Much more fun for you to do that than for me to explain what I
> 'heard'.
>>>>>>Hate to be spreading actual alarm and despondency about the USA - the
>>>>>>greatest nation on earth.
>>>>>>It might also imply that I could give a shit about the yankee economy.
>>>>>
>>>>>Not to worry.
>>>>
>>>> So your challenge was some sort of defence mechanism?
>>>> Bit of bad luck when the search turns up American sites critical of
>>>> American behaviour.
>>>> 'Not to worry' is a cop-out.
>>>> Like I say, I don't give a shit about the Yankee economy,any more than
>>>> Yankees give a shit about the Australian economy.
>>>>
>>>> But given you're a Yankee, I'd suggest you appraise yourself of the
>>>> situation you are in. It will make a difference to the way you live.
>>>> And at that point, it'd be a good thing to know what happened.
>>>> Perhaps you could even do something about the situation, if you know
> what
>>>> was going on.
>>>
>>> This is very simple, you made a claim and have no cite.
>>>
>>> Ta
>>
>> Just how thick are you?
>> I said I'd heard stuff about the USA Economy.
>> Reading and hearing are similar in this context, but for what it's worth,
>> the matter of the USA Economy being rooted has been discussed in a little
>> detail on Australian Radio - which I have "heard". Needless to say, I
> can't
>> direct you to that - unless you've found some way to out accelerate the
>> departing waveforms of those broadcasts.
>> Anyhow, you did the usual shithead thing, and suggested to whatever bored
>> readership these groups have that I couldn't back up the 'claim' - (your
>> word) - by asking for information, thinking of course that there wasn't
> any
>> available.
>> There was. There is.
>> As always, happy to assist, I provided you with an extremely simple means
>> of accessing it.
>> It's available to me, and to you, and anybody else reading my post.
>> If you looked, and I don't believe for one moment you did, the content may
>> have tampered with your view of the universe, but like I said, I didn't
>> give a shit.
>> If you didn't look, and you're too bone idle to type three words into a
>> search engine, and read a few of the top ranked results, that isn't my
>> problem.
>> It's yours.
>>
>> So, just for fun, lets play the claim cite game your way.
>> Here is the claim:
>> You are a fuckwit.
>>
>> Here is the cite:
>> "How is the US technically bankrupt?"
>> "Why would anyone want to do that?"
>> "Not to worry."
>> "This is very simple, you made a claim and have no cite."
>>
>> Happy now?
>>
>> --
>> Toby
>>
>> quidquid latine dictum
>> sit, altum viditur
--
Toby
quidquid latine dictum
sit, altum viditur
whoa, don't misread me. i'm 100% democrat and
hate tax cuts. i'd rather they actually do something
with the money than give it all back.
"SoCalMike" <mikein562athotmail@no-spam> wrote in message
news:VAQJa.2636$R73.1438@no-spam
>
>
> > if you didn't know, our government had a surplus of money last
> > year, in which they gave back to nearly all eligible citizens. and
> > they are doing something similar this year.
>
> riiiight. keep believing that, chachi. wanna know one reason the dollars
so
> weak? because we are going into debt, again. reaganomics didnt work the
> first time, and its not going to work again.
>
>
bob zee wrote:
>>the US heath care and welfare system allows for the poorest
>>people to get some of the worlds best medical treatment and
>>ample living. where else can a single mother of four live in a
>>1000 sq ft apartment for almost free?
>
> exactly. it's a damn shame, too. i am way too tired of going home at
> lunchtime and seeing all of those free-loading pieces of garbage eatin chips
> and sittin on their porches while i heat up leftovers.
> the sooner we all wake up and destroy the welfare system, the better off we
> all will be. remember charity? yes! let all the left-wing loonies do the
> 'voluntary' charity. i hate being forced into caring for these bums.
See, that's the beauty part - you don't have to care about these bums,
just pay your taxes so the feds can toss some crumbs to the citizens who
can't afford to write 5 figure checks to the RNC.
On Mon, 23 Jun 2003 06:55:46 GMT, George Macdonald wrote:
> On Sun, 22 Jun 2003 21:45:27 +1000, Toby Ponsenby
> <lord_ponsenby@no-spam> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 22 Jun 2003 10:30:16 GMT, George Macdonald wrote:
>>
>>> From what I hear, Ford is technically
>>> bankrupt - the only thing going for them is that the banks don't have the
>>> balls to actually do anything about it.
>>
>>Fom what I hear, the USA is technically bankrupt. No real use sticking it
>>to Ford:-)
>
> For your own good, as one of the peripheral economic "colonies", you'd
> better hope that is not true. Apparently Honda and Toyota US mfr is making
> healthy profits and offering US citizens gainful employment. Even GM is
> still showing signs of "life".
>
> Rgds, George Macdonald
>
> "Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??
Fair bait - trouble is, you got some mozzie repellent on it when you put it
on the hook.
--
Toby
quidquid latine dictum
sit, altum viditur
On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 11:09:18 -0400, "tomk" <no@no-spam> wrote:
>
>> what a brag... You absolutley sure your poor live better?
>> How nice for them. Where's the smilie after that statement?
>> It has to be some sort of joke? Right?
>> If it's not, it's just plain sad.
>
>
>the US heath care and welfare system allows for the poorest
>people to get some of the worlds best medical treatment and
>ample living. where else can a single mother of four live in a
>1000 sq ft apartment for almost free?
Really? Is this a unique case of single moms? From what I see the people
at the bottom of the ladder in the U.S., many earning small incomes, have
near-zero health care. Compared with the rest of the developed world, the
availability of health care to the "lower classes" in the US is a national
disgrace. The "best medical treatment" is available to rich people and
those with an employer "generous" enough to pay, and even then often
because the tax laws oblige it... if the employer wants to provide same for
himself.
<<snip>>
>> The "lines" USA owns are in the USA. So, the route you use to get this
>> reply might be Yankee, but only the piece of it within your borders.
>
>
>i didn't say the US owns all the line. US companies built some of the
>major backbone lines and launched most of the satelites. also, if your
>computer doesn't have any US branded parts then you must be using
>a toaster. just the motherboard and CPU alone are almost guaranteed
>to be a US brand, however are probably manufactured in China thanks
>to the global economy.
You're out of date. If your mbrd has a US "brand", it's almost certainly
just that - a brand and has been designed in Taiwan and mfr'd in PRC. AMD
CPUs are "made" in Germany and packaged in Malaysia; Intel CPUs are "made"
in various countries. It is certainly possible, with a VIA CPU, to make a
computer which does not have a single part of US origins.
As for the Internet, there have been many major non-US contributions...
like the WWW, which was "invented" in a lab in Switzerland by a team led by
someone from the UK IIRC. Hell, Verizon's largest shareholder, last time I
looked, was Vodaphone. I've no idea what you mean by "satellites" but the
non-US "backbone" has very little US contribution. You *did* notice that
one of the largest backbone providers in the US went bankrupt last year?
Rgds, George Macdonald
"Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??
On Wed, 25 Jun 2003 17:51:05 +1000, Toby Ponsenby
<lord_ponsenby@no-spam> wrote:
>On Mon, 23 Jun 2003 06:55:46 GMT, George Macdonald wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 22 Jun 2003 21:45:27 +1000, Toby Ponsenby
>> <lord_ponsenby@no-spam> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sun, 22 Jun 2003 10:30:16 GMT, George Macdonald wrote:
>>>
>>>> From what I hear, Ford is technically
>>>> bankrupt - the only thing going for them is that the banks don't have the
>>>> balls to actually do anything about it.
>>>
>>>Fom what I hear, the USA is technically bankrupt. No real use sticking it
>>>to Ford:-)
>>
>> For your own good, as one of the peripheral economic "colonies", you'd
>> better hope that is not true. Apparently Honda and Toyota US mfr is making
>> healthy profits and offering US citizens gainful employment. Even GM is
>> still showing signs of "life".
>>
>
>Fair bait - trouble is, you got some mozzie repellent on it when you put it
>on the hook.
Any chance you guys could consider taking Rupert back?;-)
Rgds, George Macdonald
"Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??
On Wed, 25 Jun 2003 10:43:00 GMT, George Macdonald wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Jun 2003 17:51:05 +1000, Toby Ponsenby
> <lord_ponsenby@no-spam> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 23 Jun 2003 06:55:46 GMT, George Macdonald wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 22 Jun 2003 21:45:27 +1000, Toby Ponsenby
>>> <lord_ponsenby@no-spam> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sun, 22 Jun 2003 10:30:16 GMT, George Macdonald wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> From what I hear, Ford is technically
>>>>> bankrupt - the only thing going for them is that the banks don't have the
>>>>> balls to actually do anything about it.
>>>>
>>>>Fom what I hear, the USA is technically bankrupt. No real use sticking it
>>>>to Ford:-)
>>>
>>> For your own good, as one of the peripheral economic "colonies", you'd
>>> better hope that is not true. Apparently Honda and Toyota US mfr is making
>>> healthy profits and offering US citizens gainful employment. Even GM is
>>> still showing signs of "life".
>>>
>>
>>Fair bait - trouble is, you got some mozzie repellent on it when you put it
>>on the hook.
>
> Any chance you guys could consider taking Rupert back?;-)
>
> Rgds, George Macdonald
>
> "Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??
Really depends on where the family plot is, and I suspect it's here
somewhere.
So, probably yes, then.
--
Toby
quidquid latine dictum
sit, altum viditur