Phred <ppnerkDELETETHIS@no-spam> wrote in message
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> nick@no-spam (Nick Andrew) wrote
>> Rod Speed <rod_speed@no-spam> writes
>>> Looks very much like DoV ISDN has just passed
>>> its useby date. Or will in August etc, anyway.
>> Well the guy can get a $49 iiNet ADSL connection in Bathurst
>> then. If the problem is price and not something physical like
>> distance from exchange or non-enabled exchange, it's a small
>> price to pay for having a pretty reliable permanent connection.
> The ABC talk-back guru I mentioned elsewhere just now, also said
> this morning (that's actually *Monday* morning now :) that people
> can get caught with ADSL 24/7 connections because the "background"
> download traffic (presumably in and out) for an "always on" connection
> can amount to around 10MB/day, or around 300MB/month.
Complete drivel. I did fine on Telstra's
350MB plan until they increased it to 500M.
> That's a pretty fair slug out of a basic 400/500MB
> monthly plan. (Or even from a 1gig plan, come to that.)
Its not so bad with the higher limits, because someone who actually
needs 500MB will still end up below the limit with the 1GB plan.
> I haven't seen this mentioned around here, so I'm wondering
> if that's a realistic average figure or just a very pessimistic one.
Its a mindlessly silly number.
> Also, I think at least some ISPs (e.g. BigPond, IIRC) don't
> count their housekeeping traffic as part of your allowance,
None of them do.
> so maybe it's a non-issue even if the amount is roughly correct.
Yeah, there is certainly a heartbeat between the adsl
modem and the dslam, but it doesnt get counted.
G Hutch <ghutch@no-spam> wrote in message
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> Its billed.
> It shows up on the new hourly breakdown.
Which is a complete piece of shit, the breakdown by
hour is nothing like the actual usage, much more lumpy.
> Its clearly identified by a whole group of people.
Easy to claim. When what little 'evidence' there is is
just from that completely fucked 'hourly breakdown'
which is in fact nothing like what actually happened...
> Dunno if its the router. If it is then its more
> than one model and more than one brand.
Based on that bloody flakey 'evidence'
> The users suspect the ISP.
They always do, most are into that sort of conspiracy theory.
> Turning off modem and router is sound
Nope, completely stupid with an always on service.
Back to the dinosaurs...
Its MUCH more likely that its just background traffic
and/or port scans etc. And is NOTHING like the
mindlessly stupid original claim of 300MB/month.
> as they both work off plug packs.
Completely irrelevant.
> I feel safer having as many of these off at night as possible.
Your neurotic fears are your problem.
Always have been, always will be.
> And yes I have seen a melted power
> pack that could have caused a fire.
Modern approved ones have a fusable link to avoid that result.
And its easy enough to ensure that even if it does
melt down, it wont set fire to anything that matters.
> "Rod Speed" <rod_speed@no-spam> wrote in message
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> >
> > G Hutch <ghutch@no-spam> wrote in message
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> >
> > > Mostly your right.
> >
> > Completely I'm right. As always.
> >
> > > However as discussed on "bigpond.broadband.tech.lans"
> > > recently if you have a router that remains on after midnight
> > > (ie 00-50AM) there appears to be some form of relogging
> > > of accounts and other traffic causing total transfer of anywhere
> > > from 1-2MB (some ahave reported more) which occurs everynight.
> >
> > Doesnt mean that that is included in the billed volume.
> >
> > > Maybe they are searching for servers??
> >
> > They dont care about servers. Basically because
> > they charge for both uploads and downloads.
> >
> > > I have tried it and experienced the same rates.
> > > Turning off the router but leaving the modem
> > > powered on generated no billed traffic.
> >
> > Or maybe its your router doing it.
> >
> > > The router traffic experience was reported with several
> > > router models. Netgear several models, Alcatel Speedtouch
> > > Pro 4 Port, Linksys. I don't know if it covers the full range
> > > of models. This occured on ADSL. A guy using a
> > > Smoothwall box (not a router) reported the same traffic.
> >
> > > So there is an overhead of 30-50MB per
> > > month for some bigpond ADSL users.
> >
> > Nothing like the original stupid claim.
> >
> > > Moral is turn off modem and router when not required.
> >
> > Pointless bothering.
> >
> > > Quite easy if all on one power board.
> >
> > Pointless bothering.
> >
> >
> > > Rod Speed <rod_speed@no-spam> wrote
> > >> Phred <ppnerkDELETETHIS@no-spam> wrote
> > >>> nick@no-spam (Nick Andrew) wrote
> > >>>> Rod Speed <rod_speed@no-spam> writes
> >
> > > > >>> Looks very much like DoV ISDN has just passed
> > > > >>> its useby date. Or will in August etc, anyway.
> > > >
> > > > >> Well the guy can get a $49 iiNet ADSL connection in Bathurst
> > > > >> then. If the problem is price and not something physical like
> > > > >> distance from exchange or non-enabled exchange, it's a small
> > > > >> price to pay for having a pretty reliable permanent connection.
> > > >
> > > > > The ABC talk-back guru I mentioned elsewhere just now, also said
> > > > > this morning (that's actually *Monday* morning now :) that people
> > > > > can get caught with ADSL 24/7 connections because the "background"
> > > > > download traffic (presumably in and out) for an "always on"
> connection
> > > > > can amount to around 10MB/day, or around 300MB/month.
> > > >
> > > > Complete drivel. I did fine on Telstra's
> > > > 350MB plan until they increased it to 500M.
> > > >
> > > > > That's a pretty fair slug out of a basic 400/500MB
> > > > > monthly plan. (Or even from a 1gig plan, come to that.)
> > > >
> > > > Its not so bad with the higher limits, because someone who actually
> > > > needs 500MB will still end up below the limit with the 1GB plan.
> > > >
> > > > > I haven't seen this mentioned around here, so I'm wondering
> > > > > if that's a realistic average figure or just a very pessimistic one.
> > > >
> > > > Its a mindlessly silly number.
> > > >
> > > > > Also, I think at least some ISPs (e.g. BigPond, IIRC) don't
> > > > > count their housekeeping traffic as part of your allowance,
> > > >
> > > > None of them do.
> > > >
> > > > > so maybe it's a non-issue even if the amount is roughly correct.
> > > >
> > > > Yeah, there is certainly a heartbeat between the adsl
> > > > modem and the dslam, but it doesnt get counted.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>