"Ned Latham" <ned@no-spam> wrote in message
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> Peter Wicks (aka "Che Guava"), posting as "fasgnadh", wrote
> in <bc9vdq$1j7f$1@no-spam>:
> > "Axel Van Kampen" wrote:
> > > "dechucka" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Unless you are an identical twin DNA is unique however all Humans
> > > > have VIRTUALLY the same DNA
> > > >
> > > > Please note the big word in capitals and you may realise how stupid
> > > > your comment was
> > >
> > > You see, I don't really care.
> >
> > Blind to his own faults. Thats why he thinks he's 'superior'!
>
> Oh, look. There's Guano projecting again.
>
> > > This moron, fasnack or whatever his fuckin name is, tries to
> > > insinuate that all races are equal whereas they clearly aren't.
> > > White caucasian people will always be superior to all other
> > > races. Nothing you or anyone else say can change that.
> >
> > The only difference between this overt racist bigot and O'Donnell,
> > Enlightenment, tripper, Putz, ferdie, Mosley, Duguid and Latham,
> > is that Kamper Van is MORE HONEST about his Nazi beliefs!
>
> None of us, AFAIK, has ever said anything about his beliefs, Nazi
> or otherwise, so there's no way of comparing honesties about them.
> Guano is being dishonest again.
>
> Gee. How very unsurprising.
>
> Ned
No, I don't really agree. "Fasgnadh" has made it abundently clear that he is
OBSESSED with "Nazis". No-one else here in the land Down Under is, but
"Fasgnadh" is. He is absolutely obsessed! I suspect he has little model WW2
German aeroplanes and tanks all around his bedroom.
Personally, I suppose that "Fasgnadh" is a very old man. An ancient old man,
really, when you think about how long ago WW2 was.
The act-True-Blue ng should be all about the great achievements that
True-Blues have achieved in the most inhospitable climate and continent that
we have ever faced. We have done reasonably well, and we have every right to
celebrate.
Stupidly, however, whenever we attempt to celebrate our achievements, up
pops the poor ole' "Fasgnagh" with his whingeing mid-20th century put-downs
of the Aussie boys and girls who fought against the Germans and Japs as
being ... wait for it! ... "Nazis"!
He just hasn't got a clue!
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"Someone New" <someonenew@no-spam> wrote in message
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> "Ned Latham" <ned@no-spam> wrote in message
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> > fasgnadh wrote
> > in <bc9vdq$1j7f$1@no-spam>:
> > > "Axel Van Kampen" wrote:
..
> > > > This moron, fasnack or whatever his fuckin name is, tries to
> > > > insinuate that all races are equal whereas they clearly aren't.
> > > > White caucasian people will always be superior to all other
> > > > races. Nothing you or anyone else say can change that.
As I said, this racist is more honest in his bigotry than his crony mates,
Ned, Nev and the other Taliban rednecks. Same racism as them, he's
just more overt about it.
> > >
> > > The only difference between this overt racist bigot and O'Donnell,
> > > Enlightenment, tripper, Putz, ferdie, Mosley, Duguid and Latham,
> > > is that Kamper Van is MORE HONEST about his Nazi beliefs!
> >
> > None of us, AFAIK, has ever said anything about his beliefs, Nazi
> > or otherwise, so there's no way of comparing honesties about them.
Ned has of course made clear his opinion that ancient Sparta,
with it's slavery and denial of the vote to women is his
preferred system. He is actually Pre-fascist, ..not progressive
enough to be a Nazi, as they gave their women the vote! B^p
....
> The act-True-Blue ng should be all about the great achievements that
> True-Blues have achieved in the most inhospitable climate and continent
that
> we have ever faced.
That doesn't make sense.. the Hunter valley, Gippsland, Rainbow country,
they are all pretty sweet and hospitable places to live.. or, at least, we
fair dinkum true-blues enjoy living here, even if some of you pretenders
have never felt at home in the Wide Brown Land. B^p
To the Southwest of Victoria the land was so lush, so rich, the tribes
settled and lived off the bounty.. this country has never seemed
'inhospitable' to those that know and love it.
Burke and Wills died of stupidity, surrounded by tucker.
This land has been MADE inhospitable by people so miserable
in spirit they put refugee children in razor wire gulags.
> We have done reasonably well,
You are clearly a desperate hate filled racist loser who couldn't
find his arse with both hands. Nothing about your small-minded
mean-spirited posts suggests someone who has 'done well',
you reek of the jealous bile of the n'er do well.
Muck Addinall, the last surviving specimen of Homo Defectus, wrote
in <246279a.0306192303.187a1ad8@no-spam>:
> Ned Latham wrote:
> > Peter Wicks (aka "Che Guava"), posting as "fasgnadh", wrote:
> >
> > ----snip----
> >
> > > And then there are the psuedo science pretenders, who
> > > assert DNA defines races, THEY JUST CANT TELL YOU HOW!
> >
> * Who but a molecular biologist could do so? And who but a fanatical
> * flat-earther would make such a demand of ordinary folk?
>
> So ask?
You may.
> Pete's right.
Right out of his tree.
> You failed again.
So says the moron can't read attribution lines reliably; doesn't
know the difference between an integer and an interval; can't
distinguish set notation from textual quotation; doesn't know
it when his time stamps define the time zone they refer to;
can't work out systematic time notation anyway; thinks "dollar"
is Spanish; thinks Moscow is Russia; thinks illiterates write
music manuscripts; gets sucked in by academic satires on the
speed of light...
----snip----
Ned
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Peter Wicks (aka "Che Guava"), posting as "fasgnadh", wrote
in <bdbtvv$1e9o$1@no-spam>:
> "Someone New" wrote:
----snip----
> > The act-True-Blue ng should be all about the great achievements
> > that True-Blues have achieved in the most inhospitable climate
> > and continent that we have ever faced.
>
> That doesn't make sense..
You wouldn't know sense if you fell over it. Apart from Antarctica,
Australia is the most inhospitable continent on the planet.
> the Hunter valley, Gippsland, Rainbow
> country, they are all pretty sweet and hospitable places to live..
Guano thinks he's described Australia?
----snip----
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"fasgnadh" <fasgnadh@no-spam> wrote in message
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> "Someone New" <someonenew@no-spam> wrote in message
> news:vSbKa.995$p8.35887@no-spam
> >
> > "Ned Latham" <ned@no-spam> wrote in message
> > news:slrnbevjf8.abo.ned@no-spam
> > > fasgnadh wrote
> > > in <bc9vdq$1j7f$1@no-spam>:
> > > > "Axel Van Kampen" wrote:
> ..
> > > > > This moron, fasnack or whatever his fuckin name is, tries to
> > > > > insinuate that all races are equal whereas they clearly aren't.
> > > > > White caucasian people will always be superior to all other
> > > > > races. Nothing you or anyone else say can change that.
>
> As I said, this racist is more honest in his bigotry than his crony mates,
> Ned, Nev and the other Taliban rednecks. Same racism as them, he's
> just more overt about it.
>
>
> > > >
> > > > The only difference between this overt racist bigot and O'Donnell,
> > > > Enlightenment, tripper, Putz, ferdie, Mosley, Duguid and Latham,
> > > > is that Kamper Van is MORE HONEST about his Nazi beliefs!
> > >
> > > None of us, AFAIK, has ever said anything about his beliefs, Nazi
> > > or otherwise, so there's no way of comparing honesties about them.
>
> Ned has of course made clear his opinion that ancient Sparta,
> with it's slavery and denial of the vote to women is his
> preferred system. He is actually Pre-fascist, ..not progressive
> enough to be a Nazi, as they gave their women the vote! B^p
> ....
>
> > The act-True-Blue ng should be all about the great achievements that
> > True-Blues have achieved in the most inhospitable climate and continent
> that
> > we have ever faced.
>
> That doesn't make sense.. the Hunter valley, Gippsland, Rainbow country,
> they are all pretty sweet and hospitable places to live.. or, at least,
we
> fair dinkum true-blues enjoy living here, even if some of you pretenders
> have never felt at home in the Wide Brown Land. B^p
>
> To the Southwest of Victoria the land was so lush, so rich, the tribes
> settled and lived off the bounty.. this country has never seemed
> 'inhospitable' to those that know and love it.
Which bit of Australia is "To the Southwest of Victoria", you drip?
Kerguelan Island is in that direction, of course, but it's a French
territory.
> Burke and Wills died of stupidity, surrounded by tucker.
>
> This land has been MADE inhospitable by people so miserable
> in spirit they put refugee children in razor wire gulags.
>
> > We have done reasonably well,
>
> You are clearly a desperate hate filled racist loser who couldn't
> find his arse with both hands. Nothing about your small-minded
> mean-spirited posts suggests someone who has 'done well',
> you reek of the jealous bile of the n'er do well.
No, you're the "hate-filled racist loser" - full of hatred against the
people who made this nation a magnet for migrants from all over the world!
You don't even know anything about Australian geography or history! Tell us,
"F", how did "the tribes" (whatever they might be in your fevered
imagination) "settle and live off the bounty" of Kerguelan Island?
"Axel Van Kampen" <sparqs_remove@no-spam> wrote in message
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> "dechucka" <dechucka@no-spam> wrote in message
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> >
> > "Axel Van Kampen" <sparqs_remove@no-spam> wrote in message
> > news:kymGa.763$Ab2.22625@no-spam
> > >
> > > "dechucka" <dechucka@no-spam> wrote in message
> > > news:V4kGa.259$Na5.10960@no-spam
> > > > > > Coming from someone whos reply to a post was I don't care I
THINK
> > NOT
> > > > >
> > > > > YES I THINK SO!!!!
> > > >
> > > > you think?
> > >
> > > Yes.
> >
> > but not often, I need another beer does not count as a relevent thought
>
> You are not qualified to judge as you are of a lower intellect than me.
>
>
> > >
> > > >
> > > > none of your other posts have shown that you have that ability
> > >
> > > Yes I have. It's just that you don't have the ability to tell either
> way.
> > > Any leftie is a braindead moron, everyone knows that.
> >
> > yeah right
>
> Indeed!
I don't agree, mate.
I believe in the main leftie policies of traditional Australia, including
the White Australia Policy. We had some great leftie political leaders, like
Fisher, Scullin, Curtin, Calwell, and even Whitlam (if you undemonise him
and look at what he really achieved). These heroes all believed in the White
Australia Policy. Even the abrasive Whitlam was hostile to Vietnamese
"refugees".
But on the other hand, it has been the political representatives of big
business, which presumably you might call right-wing, that have been trying
to undermine our hard-earned standards with cheap Asian labour since
pre-Federation times.
Just read Henry Lawson!
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> "fasgnadh" <fasgnadh@no-spam> wrote in message
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> > "Someone New" <someonenew@no-spam> wrote in message
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> > >
> > > "Ned Latham" <ned@no-spam> wrote in message
> > > news:slrnbevjf8.abo.ned@no-spam
> > > > fasgnadh wrote
> > > > in <bc9vdq$1j7f$1@no-spam>:
> > > > > "Axel Van Kampen" wrote:
> > ..
> > > > > > This moron, fasnack or whatever his fuckin name is, tries to
> > > > > > insinuate that all races are equal whereas they clearly aren't.
> > > > > > White caucasian people will always be superior to all other
> > > > > > races. Nothing you or anyone else say can change that.
> >
> > As I said, this racist is more honest in his bigotry than his crony
mates,
> > Ned, Nev and the other Taliban rednecks. Same racism as them, he's
> > just more overt about it.
But he's just as STUPID as the other racists, trying to tell us a land
supporting nearly 20 MILLION people in world class comfort, with
abundant food, cars, TV's, surfboards and BBQ's is 'inhospitable'! B^D
> >
> >
> > > > >
> > > > > The only difference between this overt racist bigot and O'Donnell,
> > > > > Enlightenment, tripper, Putz, ferdie, Mosley, Duguid and Latham,
> > > > > is that Kamper Van is MORE HONEST about his Nazi beliefs!
> > > >
> > > > None of us, AFAIK, has ever said anything about his beliefs, Nazi
> > > > or otherwise, so there's no way of comparing honesties about them.
> >
> > Ned has of course made clear his opinion that ancient Sparta,
> > with it's slavery and denial of the vote to women is his
> > preferred system. He is actually Pre-fascist, ..not progressive
> > enough to be a Nazi, as they gave their women the vote! B^p
> > ....
> >
> > > The act-True-Blue ng should be all about the great achievements that
> > > True-Blues have achieved in the most inhospitable climate and
continent
> > > that we have ever faced.
Aussies have faced Antartica, it's a lot less hospitable than the Hunter
Valley! B^D
Why do pretend aussies and recent boat arrivals like 'SomeoneNew-to-Oz'
insist on demonstrating their ignorance about this land, while
simultaneously
demanding others have less rights than they do to be here! B^p
> >
> > That doesn't make sense.. the Hunter valley, Gippsland, Rainbow
country,
> > they are all pretty sweet and hospitable places to live.. or, at least,
> > we fair dinkum true-blues enjoy living here, even if some of you
pretenders
> > have never felt at home in the Wide Brown Land. B^p
You meet a lot of faux true-blues like Ned, Nev and
Somone-New-to-the-country
in Usenet, but this one takes the cake.. HE DOESN'T EVEn KNOW WHERE
THE SOUTH EAST OF VICTORIA IS! 8^o B^D
> >
> > To the Southwest of Victoria the land was so lush, so rich, the tribes
> > settled and lived off the bounty.. this country has never seemed
> > 'inhospitable' to those that know and love it.
>
> Which bit of Australia is "To the Southwest of Victoria", you drip?
Well lets see, you poor newbie twat, to the NORTH WEST of Victoria
we find the Mallee Wimmera, little desert country... to the east we find
Gippsland and Lakes Entrance, to the South West; the Otways, the
Great Ocean Road, and the lush lands you show yourself to be
completely ignorant of, where indigenous tribes settled, built houses
and lived better than you do, you poor ignorant and frightened racist
stooge. ;-)
> Kerguelan Island is in that direction, of course, but it's a French
> territory.
It's to the Southwest of the landmass, you dill, you could refer to it
as OFF Victoria.. but not "OF VICTORIA!" B^D
I suppose it is the job of us true-blues to help you newbie twonks
find your way around this land you find so strange, and which
sems so inhospitable to you! B^p
>
> > Burke and Wills died of stupidity, surrounded by tucker.
> >
Clearly SomeOne-New-to-Australia is from the same thick stock! B^D
> > This land has been MADE inhospitable by people so miserable
> > in spirit they put refugee children in razor wire gulags.
> >
> > > We have done reasonably well,
> >
> > You are clearly a desperate hate filled racist loser who couldn't
> > find his arse with both hands.
Or part of a state, even with a map!
I just hope no one sends him to visit the "Southeast of Victoria".. because
the
complete fuckwit will end up in the Southern Ocean!
BWAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA!
> > Nothing about your small-minded
> > mean-spirited posts suggests someone who has 'done well',
> > you reek of the jealous bile of the n'er do well.
>
> No, you're the "hate-filled racist loser" -
"Nyah Nyah" doesn't cut it you derivative newbie twat! B^D
Go get an Atlas, AND A CLUE! B^D
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> > > "Someone New" <someonenew@no-spam> wrote in message
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> > > >
> > > > "Ned Latham" <ned@no-spam> wrote in message
> > > > news:slrnbevjf8.abo.ned@no-spam
> > > > > fasgnadh wrote
> > > > > in <bc9vdq$1j7f$1@no-spam>:
> > > > > > "Axel Van Kampen" wrote:
> > > ..
> > > > > > > This moron, fasnack or whatever his fuckin name is, tries to
> > > > > > > insinuate that all races are equal whereas they clearly
aren't.
> > > > > > > White caucasian people will always be superior to all other
> > > > > > > races. Nothing you or anyone else say can change that.
> > >
> > > As I said, this racist is more honest in his bigotry than his crony
> mates,
> > > Ned, Nev and the other Taliban rednecks. Same racism as them, he's
> > > just more overt about it.
>
> But he's just as STUPID as the other racists, trying to tell us a land
> supporting nearly 20 MILLION people in world class comfort, with
> abundant food, cars, TV's, surfboards and BBQ's is 'inhospitable'! B^D
>
>
> > >
> > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The only difference between this overt racist bigot and
O'Donnell,
> > > > > > Enlightenment, tripper, Putz, ferdie, Mosley, Duguid and Latham,
> > > > > > is that Kamper Van is MORE HONEST about his Nazi beliefs!
> > > > >
> > > > > None of us, AFAIK, has ever said anything about his beliefs, Nazi
> > > > > or otherwise, so there's no way of comparing honesties about them.
> > >
> > > Ned has of course made clear his opinion that ancient Sparta,
> > > with it's slavery and denial of the vote to women is his
> > > preferred system. He is actually Pre-fascist, ..not progressive
> > > enough to be a Nazi, as they gave their women the vote! B^p
> > > ....
> > >
> > > > The act-True-Blue ng should be all about the great achievements that
> > > > True-Blues have achieved in the most inhospitable climate and
> continent
> > > > that we have ever faced.
>
> Aussies have faced Antartica, it's a lot less hospitable than the Hunter
> Valley! B^D
>
> Why do pretend aussies and recent boat arrivals like 'SomeoneNew-to-Oz'
> insist on demonstrating their ignorance about this land, while
> simultaneously
> demanding others have less rights than they do to be here! B^p
> > >
> > > That doesn't make sense.. the Hunter valley, Gippsland, Rainbow
> country,
> > > they are all pretty sweet and hospitable places to live.. or, at
least,
> > > we fair dinkum true-blues enjoy living here, even if some of you
> pretenders
> > > have never felt at home in the Wide Brown Land. B^p
>
> You meet a lot of faux true-blues like Ned, Nev and
> Somone-New-to-the-country
> in Usenet, but this one takes the cake.. HE DOESN'T EVEn KNOW WHERE
> THE SOUTH EAST OF VICTORIA IS! 8^o B^D
>
> > >
> > > To the Southwest of Victoria the land was so lush, so rich, the tribes
> > > settled and lived off the bounty.. this country has never seemed
> > > 'inhospitable' to those that know and love it.
> >
> > Which bit of Australia is "To the Southwest of Victoria", you drip?
>
> Well lets see, you poor newbie twat, to the NORTH WEST of Victoria
> we find the Mallee Wimmera, little desert country... to the east we find
> Gippsland and Lakes Entrance, to the South West; the Otways, the
> Great Ocean Road, and the lush lands you show yourself to be
> completely ignorant of, where indigenous tribes settled, built houses
> and lived better than you do, you poor ignorant and frightened racist
> stooge. ;-)
>
> > Kerguelan Island is in that direction, of course, but it's a French
> > territory.
>
> It's to the Southwest of the landmass, you dill, you could refer to it
> as OFF Victoria.. but not "OF VICTORIA!" B^D
Oh, I see. You were trying to talk about some place "IN the Southwest of
Victoria", rather than "TO the Southwest of Victoria" as you stated - but
your command of the English language clearly wasn't up to expressing your
intention. I suggest that you take lessons in the lingo before you try to
make any statement of any kind.
Ignorant fool!
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> > > > >
> > > > > "Ned Latham" <ned@no-spam> wrote in message
> > > > > news:slrnbevjf8.abo.ned@no-spam
> > > > > > fasgnadh wrote
> > > > > > in <bc9vdq$1j7f$1@no-spam>:
> > > > > > > "Axel Van Kampen" wrote:
> ..
> > > > > > > > This moron, fasnack or whatever his fuckin name is, tries to
> > > > > > > > insinuate that all races are equal whereas they clearly
> aren't.
> > > > > > > > White caucasian people will always be superior to all other
> > > > > > > > races. Nothing you or anyone else say can change that.
> > > >
> > > > As I said, this racist is more honest in his bigotry than his crony
> mates,
> > > > Ned, Nev and the other Taliban rednecks. Same racism as them, he's
> > > > just more overt about it.
> >
> > But he's just as STUPID as the other racists, trying to tell us a land
> > supporting nearly 20 MILLION people in world class comfort, with
> > abundant food, cars, TV's, surfboards and BBQ's is 'inhospitable'! B^D
> >
Looks like Someone-New-To-Oz has given up on his original stupidity
and is pursuing his latest stupidity! B^)
First he thinks Oz is inhospitable, when we are the most
hospitable people on the planet, unless you are a refugee..
> >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The only difference between this overt racist bigot and
> O'Donnell,
> > > > > > > Enlightenment, tripper, Putz, ferdie, Mosley, Duguid and Latham,
> > > > > > > is that Kamper Van is MORE HONEST about his Nazi beliefs!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > None of us, AFAIK, has ever said anything about his beliefs, Nazi
> > > > > > or otherwise, so there's no way of comparing honesties about them.
> > > >
> > > > Ned has of course made clear his opinion that ancient Sparta,
> > > > with it's slavery and denial of the vote to women is his
> > > > preferred system. He is actually Pre-fascist, ..not progressive
> > > > enough to be a Nazi, as they gave their women the vote! B^p
> > > > ....
> > > >
> > > > > The act-True-Blue ng should be all about the great achievements that
> > > > > True-Blues have achieved in the most inhospitable climate and
> continent
> > > > > that we have ever faced.
> >
> > Aussies have faced Antartica, it's a lot less hospitable than the Hunter
> > Valley! B^D
> >
> > Why do pretend aussies and recent boat arrivals like 'SomeoneNew-to-Oz'
> > insist on demonstrating their ignorance about this land, while
> > simultaneously
> > demanding others have less rights than they do to be here! B^p
> > > >
> > > > That doesn't make sense.. the Hunter valley, Gippsland, Rainbow
> country,
> > > > they are all pretty sweet and hospitable places to live.. or, at
> least,
> > > > we fair dinkum true-blues enjoy living here, even if some of you
> pretenders
> > > > have never felt at home in the Wide Brown Land. B^p
> >
> > You meet a lot of faux true-blues like Ned, Nev and
> > Somone-New-to-the-country
> > in Usenet, but this one takes the cake.. HE DOESN'T EVEn KNOW WHERE
> > THE SOUTH EAST OF VICTORIA IS! 8^o B^D
> >
> > > >
> > > > To the Southwest of Victoria the land was so lush, so rich, the tribes
> > > > settled and lived off the bounty.. this country has never seemed
> > > > 'inhospitable' to those that know and love it.
> > >
> > > Which bit of Australia is "To the Southwest of Victoria", you drip?
> >
> > Well lets see, you poor newbie twat, to the NORTH WEST of Victoria
> > we find the Mallee Wimmera, little desert country...
Amazing how these newbie twonks come here without even a passing
understanding of the lingo, any aussie child could understand
this plain english.. but not Someone-New-To-the-Country! B^D
He makes hard going of it! B^D
> > to the east we find
> > Gippsland and Lakes Entrance, to the South West; the Otways, the
> > Great Ocean Road, and the lush lands you show yourself to be
> > completely ignorant of, where indigenous tribes settled, built houses
> > and lived better than you do, you poor ignorant and frightened racist
> > stooge. ;-)
> >
> > > Kerguelan Island is in that direction, of course,
Right 'direction' you moron but I clearly said the southwest
OF Victoria, not OFF the southwest of Victoria.. can't you
even read you moronic cretin!? B^D B^D
> > > but it's a French territory.
Hardly likely to be part 'OF Victoria' then is it you poor
malfunctioning dickwad! B^D
> >
> > It's to the Southwest of the landmass, you dill, you could refer to it
> > as OFF Victoria.. but not "OF VICTORIA!" B^D
>
> Oh, I see.
Well it sure took you long enough!
In future if you want to indicate an Island in the Southern
Ocean you can say "off the Southwest Coast" "Off to Victorian
Coast" but not "the Southwest OF Victoria" !!!!
OF is a preposition indicating (in this context), direction.
OFF is an adverb indicating 'away from' or 'at a distance from'
or in your case it refers to your whole appearance and demeanour!
B^D
If I send you to the southeast corner OF MY HOUSE, I can
only hope that you will not go to the living room, but out
OFF my property and ON the road, putting yourself, your poor
parents and the rest of your long suffering acquaintenances
out of their misery!
You were trying to talk about some place "to the Southwest OFF
Victoria", rather than "to the Southwest OF Victoria" which was
clear to any one who knows the language better than your rudimentary
mangling of it.
Someone-New-to-Australia was once sent to the Southeast
of Queensland and they found him in Adelaide. To this day
if you ask him what you find if you go 'to the Southeast
of Queensland', he replies 'Lake Eyre'! B^D
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAA!
No wonder you find our land 'inhospitable', you clearly can't
navigate around it, let alone find your arse with both hands.
Go back to Seth Effrikkka with your boyfriend Axel Van
Kampergrease.
"fasgnadh" <fasgnadh@no-spam> wrote in message
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<big snip>
> > > > >
> > > > > To the Southwest of Victoria the land was so lush, so rich, the
tribes
> > > > > settled and lived off the bounty.. this country has never seemed
> > > > > 'inhospitable' to those that know and love it.
> > > >
> > > > Which bit of Australia is "To the Southwest of Victoria", you drip?
> > >
<snip>
> > >
> > > > Kerguelan Island is in that direction, of course,
>
> Right 'direction' you moron but I clearly said the southwest
> OF Victoria, not OFF the southwest of Victoria.. can't you
> even read you moronic cretin!? B^D B^D
>
> > > > but it's a French territory.
>
> Hardly likely to be part 'OF Victoria' then is it you poor
> malfunctioning dickwad! B^D
You said, "To the Southwest of Victoria". The operative word was "To" - as
distinct from "In". "In" suggests Portland, Heywood, Warrnambool and
Hamilton. But "To" suggests some place off the coast. (Maybe you meant
Lawrence Rocks?)
If you had been born here, you would have known that we Aussies refer to the
southwest of Victoria as "the Western Districts". Clearly you are not a
native Aussie or a native speaker of English.
If you had just made that clear from the beginning I wouldn't have "knocked"
you.
I am sure that your command of English is infinitely better than my
knowledge of whatever language you grew up speaking. Good luck to you on
that account! I can't speak a word of Yiddish (or whatever your native
language might be), and quite frankly I don't have the inclination or the
time to learn it. Even so, I think it's rather touching that you are trying
to learn English. Goodonya!
On behalf of everyone who has ever read some of your many posts, I wish you
success in your efforts to learn to speak English and to try to become an
acceptable New Australian. Just remember, though, that we Australians refer
nowadays to the southwest bits of Victoria that Major Mitchell named
"Australia Felix" as "the Western Districts".
They are not "To" the Southwest of Victoria. They are "In" the Southwest of
Victoria, and (just to help you through a bit of repetition) we Australians
refer to them as "the Western Districts".
I hope this helps.
>
"Someone New" <someonenew@no-spam> wrote in message
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>
> "fasgnadh" <fasgnadh@no-spam> wrote in message
> news:db64d59.0306290645.353d6f11@no-spam
> <big snip>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > To the Southwest of Victoria the land was so lush, so rich, the
> > > > > > tribes
> > > > > > settled and lived off the bounty.. this country has never
seemed
> > > > > > 'inhospitable' to those that know and love it.
All those clues, and still Someone-Newby is lost! B^D
People who know the place, and don't find it 'inhospitable' as
that poor whinger does, must help him find his way about. ;-)
> > > > >
> > > > > Which bit of Australia is "To the Southwest of Victoria", you
drip?
> > > >
Unbelievable! How do they let such drongoes immigrate without even
a rudimentary grasp of geography! B^D
Eventually, after only telling him TWICE, he seemed to catch up,
(but then, in obvious embarassment, he wanted to pretend he knew
all about the Victorian SouthWest all along! B^p What a poser! B^)
> <snip>
> > > >
> > > > > Kerguelan Island is in that direction, of course,
> >
> > Right 'direction' you moron but I clearly said the southwest
> > OF Victoria, not OFF the southwest of Victoria.. can't you
> > even read you moronic cretin!? B^D B^D
> >
> > > > > but it's a French territory.
> >
> > Hardly likely to be part 'OF Victoria' then is it you poor
> > malfunctioning dickwad! B^D
>
> You said, "To the Southwest of Victoria".
"The Expedition travelled from the Uluru 'to the northwest of the NT''.
All except Somone-New-to-Australia remained on land and watched
him floundering off Sumatra. B^D
....
>
> I hope this helps.
Especially so if the sharks are biting! B^D
"fasgnadh" <fasgnadh@no-spam> wrote in message
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>
> "Someone New" <someonenew@no-spam> wrote in message
> news:DMRLa.67$oN.3858@no-spam
> >
> > "fasgnadh" <fasgnadh@no-spam> wrote in message
> > news:db64d59.0306290645.353d6f11@no-spam
> > <big snip>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > To the Southwest of Victoria the land was so lush, so rich,
the
> > > > > > > tribes
> > > > > > > settled and lived off the bounty.. this country has never
> seemed
> > > > > > > 'inhospitable' to those that know and love it.
>
> All those clues, and still Someone-Newby is lost! B^D
>
> People who know the place, and don't find it 'inhospitable' as
> that poor whinger does, must help him find his way about. ;-)
>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Which bit of Australia is "To the Southwest of Victoria", you
> drip?
<snip the rest, which is just repetition of previous abuse by "F">
Oh, Fasgnadh, Fasgnadh ...
I made a genuine offer to help you understand the nuances of our Aussie
culture and our Aussie version of the English language. I understand how
hard it must be for people like you, coming from a NESB background, to try
to feel comfy in your new national home. If you had lived nearby, mate, I'd
have invited you to our next family barbie, in an effort to help you
integrate. It would have been really pleasant for you - you could have met
lots of real Aussies and got a bit of a handle on our culture in a
non-threatening environment. I could even have teed up a bloke from the
Western Districts who would have been able to fill you in on Australian
geography.
But it's starting to look like you don't want to be helped into becoming a
nice "New Australian". When people offer to help you, let's face it, cobber,
you tend to become abusive.
Now really, is that any way to live your life? I mean, if your sojourn (that
means "temporary stay", FYI) in our wide brown land isn't really to your
liking, perhaps you might be happier just going back to your (no doubt
colourful) homeland. That wouldn't be so much of a hardship, really, would
it? I'm sure they must have wonderful ethnic dances and costumes, and really
exotic foods.
If you decide to go back home, please keep us advised. We Aussies wish you
well, even though your stay here didn't quite work out, and we'd love to
hear that you're doing well back home. And if you want any updates on your
Aussie pension, don't hesitate to give us a call!
Peter Wicks (aka "Che Guava"), posting as "fasgnadh", wrote
in <bdjgjp$jmo$1@no-spam>:
----snip----
> But he's just as STUPID as the other racists, trying to tell us a
> land supporting nearly 20 MILLION people in world class comfort, with
> abundant food, cars, TV's, surfboards and BBQ's is 'inhospitable'!
At roughly comparable levels of "comfort":
The USA is about 1.2 times the size of Australia, and supports over
twenty times the population;
Europe is about 1.3 times tha size of Australia and supports over
thirty five times the population.
At lower levels of "comfort":
China is about 1.2 times the size of Australia, and supports over fifty
times the population;
India's about 0.4 times the size of Australia and supports nearly fifty
times the population;
Indonesia's about 0.24 times the size of Australia and supports over
five times the population.
And at that, Australia'a overpopulated. Our water resources are so
stretched that we have water restrictions in parts of the country
right now (in winter!), and our salination problems have been getting
worse for decades.
----snip----
Ned
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"Someone New" <someonenew@no-spam> wrote in message
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>
> "Ned Latham" <ned@no-spam> wrote in message
> news:slrnbg2k39.2m6.ned@no-spam
> > Peter Wicks (aka "Che Guava"), posting as "fasgnadh", wrote
> > in <bdjgjp$jmo$1@no-spam>:
> >
> > "Someone New" <someonenew@no-spam> wrote in message
> > news:DMRLa.67$oN.3858@no-spam
> > >
> > > "fasgnadh" <fasgnadh@no-spam> wrote in message
> > > news:db64d59.0306290645.353d6f11@no-spam
> > > <big snip>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > To the Southwest of Victoria the land was so lush, so rich,
the
> > > > > > > > tribes settled and lived off the bounty.. this country has
never
> > > > > > > > seemed 'inhospitable' to those that know and love it.
Seems pretty clear to Aussies who actually DO know and
love this country. 20, 000,000 people find it so hospitable
we live here with one of the longest life expectancies on the planet,
plentiful food, world class accomodation, democratic government,
beer, TV, two cars in the garage, enough free time for even
totally useless fuckwits like Ned and Someone-new-to-the-Country
to spend half their life on Usenet demonstrating their iggerance! B^D
Lets watch them whine about what a tough lot we have! B^D
> > All those clues, and still Someone-Newby is lost! B^D
> >
> > People who know the place, and don't find it 'inhospitable' as
> > that poor whinger does, must help him find his way about. ;-)
Are those whining bastard's who find Manly beach
and the Hunter 'inhosdpitable', STILL HERE!!?? B^D
What next, will they start complaining that it's not enough
like the USSA? They need more power steering and cable TV? B^D
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Which bit of Australia is "To the Southwest of Victoria",
> > > > > > > you drip?
> >
> > Unbelievable! How do they let such drongoes immigrate without even
> > a rudimentary grasp of geography! B^D
> >
> > Eventually, after only telling him TWICE, he seemed to catch up,
> > (but then, in obvious embarassment, he wanted to pretend he knew
> > all about the Victorian SouthWest all along! B^p What a poser!
B^)
> > > <snip>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Kerguelan Island is in that direction, of course,
> > > >
> > > > Right 'direction' you moron but I clearly said the southwest
> > > > OF Victoria, not OFF the southwest of Victoria.. can't you
> > > > even read you moronic cretin!? B^D B^D
> > > >
> > > > > > > but it's a French territory.
> > > >
> > > > Hardly likely to be part 'OF Victoria' then is it you poor
> > > > malfunctioning dickwad! B^D
> > >
> > > You said, "To the Southwest of Victoria".
> >
> > "The Expedition travelled from the Uluru 'to the northwest of the NT''.
> >
> > All except Somone-New-to-Australia remained on land and watched
> > him floundering off Sumatra. B^D
> >
> > ....
> > >
> > > I hope this helps.
> >
> > Especially so if the sharks are biting! B^D
> > > >
> > > > > But he's just as STUPID as the other racists, trying to tell us
a
> > > > > land supporting nearly 20 MILLION people in world class comfort,
with
> > > > > abundant food, cars, TV's, surfboards and BBQ's is
'inhospitable'!
> > > >
> > > > At roughly comparable levels of "comfort":
BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA!
So these soft-bellied, mamby pamby nancy boys regard
anything short of the fat-butter-popcorn 'COMFORT" that
the Merkin lardarses seem to need, as essential, or else
the land is too 'inhospitable' for them! B^D
Med Latham and SomeOne-New-to-the-Country are clearly
not descendents of the hardy settler stock who helped found the
Australian nation!
> >
> > The USA is about 1.2 times the size of Australia, and supports over
> > twenty times the population;
Antartica is nearly TWICE the size of Australia and the USSA, and
supports less than 0.0000001% of their populations!
NOW THAT IS **INHOSPITABLE* YOU NAMBY PAMBY,
LIMP DICKED, COTTON WOOL COWARDS! B^D
> >
> > And at that, Australia'a overpopulated.
YEah, dickwad, it was so 'inhospitable' that we bred ourselves into
overpopulation!
BWAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!
> > Our water resources are so
> > stretched that we have water restrictions in parts of the country
> > right now (in winter!),
Well DUH! All those occupiers of the landmass for the past
60,000 years who DIDN'T attempt water intensive cotton
growing and rice farming, DIDN'T defoliate the land and
reduce it's rainfall and water retention, DIDN'T salinate the
land through profligate irrigation, raising the WATER TABLE
till it brought deadly salts to teh surface.. don't seem to
have had teh problems YOU CREATED AND NOW WHINE ABOUT!
BWAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAA
"Yes, it was a paradise when we arrived, but we cut the forrests
drained the wetlands, dammed the rivers, salted the land,
shit in our drinking water and would now like to have a little whine about
the land 20,000,000 of us live off in considerable comfort being
too 'inhospitable' for widdle us!" B^D
Wankers! B^p
> > and our salination problems have been getting worse for decades.
> >
I'm sure you two hopeless cranks will find a way to blame ethnics,
blacks and multiculturalism for whatever damage you have wreaked! B^p
> > ----snip----
>
> Yes, of course you're right, Ned.
It must be suffocating with your head up his arse like that.
But i'll bet you are glad his irrelevant numbers, (so easily
dismissed by pointing to a GENUINELY inhospitable
continent like Antartica ;-) help to disguise the way you
abandoned everyone of YOUR exposed lies and bullshit droppings!
> But maybe it's not entirely fair to just
> hit "F" with figures like those you have given above. After all, as a poor
> under-educated NESB, he won't be able to understand them.
20,000,000 carrying capacity and two sooks!
I love it! We are in such an 'inhospitable' environment we
have bred to a population of 20,000,000 all living
in first world comfort!! ! B^D
"fasgnadh" <fasgnadh@no-spam> wrote in message
news:be3eir$2jjm$1@no-spam
<snip>
>
> BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA!
>
> So these soft-bellied, mamby pamby nancy boys regard
> anything short of the fat-butter-popcorn 'COMFORT" that
> the Merkin lardarses seem to need, as essential, or else
> the land is too 'inhospitable' for them! B^D
Umm ...
Try again, "F", if you don't mind.
I can see that what you wrote above is not native English, and I'm really
always willing to walk that extra mile to help NESBs like you assimilate -
after all, we Aussies are very hospitable.
But it would seem that you have typed up a statement in your native language
(say, Yiddish?); and then fed it through one of those computer translation
systems that don't really work. (Well, at least in your case it didn't
really work, as the sample "translation" above clearly shows!)
But I have a really good idea. Why don't you go to the nice Aussie couple
who probably live just down the road from you, and ask them (preferably
politely) to help you express your thoughts in the English language? I'm
sure they'd do their best to try to help you, possum!
"Someone New" <someonenew@no-spam> wrote in message
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>
> "fasgnadh" <fasgnadh@no-spam> wrote in message
> news:be3eir$2jjm$1@no-spam
> <snip>
>
> >
> > BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA!
> >
> > So these soft-bellied, mamby pamby nancy boys regard
> > anything short of the fat-butter-popcorn 'COMFORT" that
> > the Merkin lardarses seem to need, as essential, or else
> > the land is too 'inhospitable' for them! B^D
>
> Umm ...
Please remove Nev from your mouth before attempting speech.
BTW, everyone can see you have completely abandoned all
effort at rational debate, being unable to support any
of your baseless assertions.
Your withdrawal from the running is noted, clearly you find the
world of ideas as 'inhospitable' as you find the nation which supports
20,000,000 of us in first world comfort! B^D
> > > > > > > > To the Southwest of Victoria the land was so lush, so rich,
the
> > > > > > > > tribes settled and lived off the bounty.. this country has
never
> > > > > > > > seemed 'inhospitable' to those that know and love it.
Seems pretty clear to Aussies who actually DO know and
love this country. 20, 000,000 people find it so hospitable
we live here with one of the longest life expectancies on the planet,
plentiful food, world class accomodation, democratic government,
beer, TV, two cars in the garage, enough free time for even
totally useless fuckwits like Ned and Someone-new-to-the-Country
to spend half their life on Usenet demonstrating their iggerance! B^D
Lets watch them whine about what a tough lot we have! B^D
> > All those clues, and still Someone-Newby is lost! B^D
> >
> > People who know the place, and don't find it 'inhospitable' as
> > that poor whinger does, must help him find his way about. ;-)
Are those whining bastard's who find Manly beach
and the Hunter 'inhosdpitable', STILL HERE!!?? B^D
What next, will they start complaining that it's not enough
like the USSA? They need more power steering and cable TV? B^D
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Which bit of Australia is "To the Southwest of Victoria",
> > > > > > > you drip?
> >
> > Unbelievable! How do they let such drongoes immigrate without even
> > a rudimentary grasp of geography! B^D
> >
> > Eventually, after only telling him TWICE, he seemed to catch up,
> > (but then, in obvious embarassment, he wanted to pretend he knew
> > all about the Victorian SouthWest all along! B^p What a poser!
B^)
> > > <snip>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Kerguelan Island is in that direction, of course,
> > > >
> > > > Right 'direction' you moron but I clearly said the southwest
> > > > OF Victoria, not OFF the southwest of Victoria.. can't you
> > > > even read you moronic cretin!? B^D B^D
> > > >
> > > > > > > but it's a French territory.
> > > >
> > > > Hardly likely to be part 'OF Victoria' then is it you poor
> > > > malfunctioning dickwad! B^D
> > >
> > > You said, "To the Southwest of Victoria".
> >
> > "The Expedition travelled from the Uluru 'to the northwest of the NT''.
> >
> > All except Somone-New-to-Australia remained on land and watched
> > him floundering off Sumatra. B^D
> >
> > ....
> > >
> > > I hope this helps.
> >
> > Especially so if the sharks are biting! B^D
> > > >
> > > > > But he's just as STUPID as the other racists, trying to tell us
a
> > > > > land supporting nearly 20 MILLION people in world class comfort,
with
> > > > > abundant food, cars, TV's, surfboards and BBQ's is
'inhospitable'!
> > > >
> > > > At roughly comparable levels of "comfort":
BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA!
So these soft-bellied, mamby pamby nancy boys regard
anything short of the fat-butter-popcorn 'COMFORT" that
the Merkin lardarses seem to need, as essential, or else
the land is too 'inhospitable' for them! B^D
Med Latham and SomeOne-New-to-the-Country are clearly
not descendents of the hardy settler stock who helped found the
Australian nation!
> >
> > The USA is about 1.2 times the size of Australia, and supports over
> > twenty times the population;
Antartica is nearly TWICE the size of Australia and the USSA, and
supports less than 0.0000001% of their populations!
NOW THAT IS **INHOSPITABLE* YOU NAMBY PAMBY,
LIMP DICKED, COTTON WOOL COWARDS! B^D
> >
> > And at that, Australia'a overpopulated.
YEah, dickwad, it was so 'inhospitable' that we bred ourselves into
overpopulation!
BWAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!
> > Our water resources are so
> > stretched that we have water restrictions in parts of the country
> > right now (in winter!),
Well DUH! All those occupiers of the landmass for the past
60,000 years who DIDN'T attempt water intensive cotton
growing and rice farming, DIDN'T defoliate the land and
reduce it's rainfall and water retention, DIDN'T salinate the
land through profligate irrigation, raising the WATER TABLE
till it brought deadly salts to teh surface.. don't seem to
have had teh problems YOU CREATED AND NOW WHINE ABOUT!
BWAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAA
"Yes, it was a paradise when we arrived, but we cut the forrests
drained the wetlands, dammed the rivers, salted the land,
shit in our drinking water and would now like to have a little whine about
the land 20,000,000 of us live off in considerable comfort being
too 'inhospitable' for widdle us!" B^D
Wankers! B^p
> > and our salination problems have been getting worse for decades.
> >
I'm sure you two hopeless cranks will find a way to blame ethnics,
blacks and multiculturalism for whatever damage you have wreaked! B^p
> > ----snip----
>
> Yes, of course you're right, Ned.
It must be suffocating with your head up his arse like that.
But i'll bet you are glad his irrelevant numbers, (so easily
dismissed by pointing to a GENUINELY inhospitable
continent like Antartica ;-) help to disguise the way you
abandoned everyone of YOUR exposed lies and bullshit droppings!
> But maybe it's not entirely fair to just
> hit "F" with figures like those you have given above. After all, as a poor
> under-educated NESB, he won't be able to understand them.
20,000,000 carrying capacity and two sooks!
I love it! We are in such an 'inhospitable' environment we
have bred to a population of 20,000,000 all living
in first world comfort!! ! B^D
"fasgnadh" <fasgnadh@no-spam> wrote in message
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>
> "Someone New" <someonenew@no-spam> wrote in message
> news:gRPNa.3199$oN.140985@no-spam
> >
> > "fasgnadh" <fasgnadh@no-spam> wrote in message
> > news:be3eir$2jjm$1@no-spam
> > <snip>
> >
> > >
> > > BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA!
> > >
> > > So these soft-bellied, mamby pamby nancy boys regard
> > > anything short of the fat-butter-popcorn 'COMFORT" that
> > > the Merkin lardarses seem to need, as essential, or else
> > > the land is too 'inhospitable' for them! B^D
> >
> > Umm ...Try again, "F", if you don't mind.
I can see that what you wrote above is not native English, and I'm really
always willing to walk that extra mile to help NESBs like you assimilate -
after all, we Aussies are very hospitable.
But it would seem that you have typed up a statement in your native language
(say, Yiddish?); and then fed it through one of those computer translation
systems that don't really work. (Well, at least in your case it didn't
really work, as the sample "translation" above clearly shows!)
But I have a really good idea. Why don't you go to the nice Aussie couple
who probably live just down the road from you, and ask them (preferably
politely) to help you express your thoughts in the English language? I'm
sure they'd do their best to try to help you, possum!
> Please remove Nev from your mouth before attempting speech.
Total nonsense and vile sexist rubbish from "F" removed. The rest restored.
"TheMan" <noreply@no-spam> wrote:
> Also Africans used to be hunter gatherers for many thousands of years,
> while europeans have been academics. Explains the results today I guess...
> Why deny reality of the world that different Races are not the same, just
> because it's not politically correct?
Gee. So, now biological differences and DNA differences dictate who
predominates the schools, colleges and universities? Nice set up, there.
USA, proficiency scores
Reading, 17 year olds Writing, 11th grade
Year Male Female Year Male Female
1979-80 282 289 1983-84 281 299
1987-88 286 294 1987-88 282 299
1998-99 282 295 1995-96 275 292
pulling away huge gap
The difference in writing scores is about the same as reported between
whites and blacks.
Guess that makes males the nigger gender ... according to you.
Now to back to your plantation and finish your work ... boy. Because
you're only a male.
WHOOPSIE! That's wasn't Politically Correct.
Surely it can't be those pesky little DNA differences. Gee, must be
something ENVIRONMENTAL or CULTURAL.
No. It's not even an American phenomenon, in the first place.
It's everywhere, from Australia to Russia to Kuwait to the US
to St. Lucia and elsewhere.
It's only the tip of the iceberg ... a VERY BIG iceberg...
==================================
INTEL SCIENCE & ENGINEERING FAIR, May 23, 2003:
International competition, students from 36 nations.
Competition swept by the girls in 2003, with top prizes awarded to:
Elena Leah Glassman (PA),
Lisa Doreen Glukhovsky (CT),
Anila Madiraju (Quebec)
==================================
FROM ST. LUCIA:
Colleges students: 72% female, by mid 1990's.
==================================
FROM INDIA:
Chennai - For the sixth consecutive year, girls
outperformed the boys in Tamil Nadu in the plus two
examinations ... 79.8 per cent of the girls and 70.6 per cent
of boys ... came out successfully.
==================================
FROM LATIN AMERICA, SOUTHEAST ASIA, WESTERN ASIA:
Post-secondary students (% female):
1990 ==> 1998
Latin America: 48.5% 50.5%
South East Asia: 45.1% 52.6%
Western Asia: 39.8% 52.4%
==================================
FROM THE US VIRGIN ISLANDS:
1992/93, attendance at the tertiary level.
Female Male %Female Field
2166 758 74.1 Total
--------------------------------------------------
26 1 96.3 Mass Communications & Documentation
125 5 96.2 Medical Science & Health-Related
129 26 83.2 Social & Behavioral Science
364 76 82.7 Education Science/Teacher Training
48 11 81.4 Humanities, Religion & Theology
800 194 80.5 Commercial & Business Administration
60 29 67.4 Mathematics & Computer Science
531 347 60.5 Other, Not Specified
83 69 54.6 Natural Science
By Levels: 1 = Primary schools, 2 = Secondary schools, 3 = Tertiary schools
Students (% female)
Year 1 2 3
1980 -- -- 71
1985 -- -- 72
1990 -- 55 75
1992 47 50 74
==================================
FROM MONGOLIA:
"Mongolia's Universities: A Woman's World"
eurasianet.org, February 3, 2002
Colleges campuses: 60% female
Post-secondary institutions overall: 69% female.
By Levels: 0 = Pre-school, 1 = Primary, 2 = Secondary, 3 = Tertiary
G = General Secondary, V = Vocational Secondary
E = Schools of Education at Tertiary level, O = Other Tertiary
Students (% female)
Year 0 1 2 G V 3 E O
1980 53 49 51 51 46 61 52 69
1985 55 50 -- -- 49 63 54 70
1990 55 50 53 53 49 65 55 73
1994 55 51 57 57 48 69 -- --
1995 54 50 57 57 52 70 -- --
1996 54 51 57 57 53 69 61 77
==================================
FROM THE GULF STATES:
% of post-secondary students who are female, by mid 1990's:
58% Bahrain
62% Kuwait
70% United Arab Emirates
73% Qatar
IN KUWAIT, by level:
0 = Pre-school, 1 = Primary, 2 = Secondary, 3 = Tertiary
G = General secondary, V = Vocational schools
E = Schools of education in tertiary, O = Other tertiary
Students (% female)
Year 0 1 2 G V 3 E O
1980 48 48 46 46 NA 57 58 55
1985 48 49 47 47 8 54 55 51
1990 49 48 -- 49 -- -- -- --
1991 -- -- -- -- -- 65 66 65
1992 -- -- -- -- -- 65 69 61
1994 49 50 49 49 34 -- 67 --
1995 49 49 49 49 29 62 66 57
1996 49 49 49 49 32 -- -- --
==================================
FROM RUSSIA:
1994/95, attendance at the tertiary level.
Female Male %Female Field
2,463,912 1,994,451 55.2 Total
--------------------------------------------------------
25 0 100.0 Home Economonics
1,558 198 88.7 Service Trades
396,278 56,403 87.5 Education Science/Teacher Training
65,008 12,579 83.8 Trades, Cradt & Industrial Programmes
184,935 49,945 78.7 Humanities, Religion & Theology
296,130 81,169 78.5 Medical Science & Health-Related
392,092 116,238 77.1 Social & Behavioral Science
28,440 9,554 74.9 Mass Communications & Documentation
233,093 90,864 72.0 Commercial & Business Administration
58,882 29,849 66.4 Fine & Applied Arts
7,450 4,471 62.5 Architecture & Town Planning
84,717 69,319 55.0 Mathematics & Computer Science
63,347 58,348 52.1 Law
79,339 73,916 51.8 Natural Science
-----------------------------------------------------
145,749 159,903 47.7 Agriculture, Forestry & Fishery
68,377 80,047 46.1 Other, Not Specified
17,330 30,846 36.0 Transportation & Communications
341,162 1,070,802 24.2 Engineering
==================================
FROM CANADA:
1995/6 attendance at the tertiary level.
Female Male %Female Field
938,348 824,757 53.2 Total
---------------------------------------------------
5,426 821 86.9 Service Trades
68,244 20,469 76.9 Education Science/Teacher Training
79,519 31,284 71.8 Medical Science & Health-Related
10,401 5,503 65.4 Home Economonics
67,715 41,238 62.2 Social & Behavioral Science
15,547 10,274 60.2 Mass Communications & Documentation
149,914 100,036 60.0 Commercial & Business Administration
66,709 46,549 58.9 Humanities, Religion & Theology
354,130 249,524 58.7 Other, Not Specified
26,642 19,445 57.8 Fine & Applied Arts
7,292 6,428 53.1 Law
---------------------------------------------------
24,853 25,688 49.2 Natural Science
1,394 2,162 39.2 Architecture & Town Planning
10,212 16,338 38.5 Agriculture, Forestry & Fishery
16,235 42,545 27.6 Mathematics & Computer Science
10,984 47,770 18.7 Engineering
22,609 153,104 12.9 Trades, Cradt & Industrial Programmes
522 5,579 8.6 Transportation & Communications
==================================
FROM NEW ZEALAND:
By level:
0 = Pre-school, 1 = Primary, 2 = Secondary, 3 = Tertiary
G = General secondary, V = Vocational schools
E = Schools of education in tertiary, O = Other tertiary
Students (% female):
Year 0 1 2 G V 3 E O
1980 49 49 49 49 82 41 42 39
1985 49 49 50 50 82 46 46 40
1990 49 48 49 49 49 52 50 53
1994 49 49 50 50 47 55 -- --
1995 49 49 48 50 42 55 -- --
1996 48 49 50 50 52 56 -- --
==================================
THROUGHOUT THE INDUSTRIAL WORLD (OECD):
Results of the international standard PISA test given by the OECD in 2001:
Reading: Girls performed better in reading in all 31 nations that submitted
results for that area, all differences statistically significant.
Math: No statistical difference in 17 of the 31 countries, including the US.
Major gaps favoring males in Austria, Korea and Brazil.
Science: The girls did better in the US, but not statistically significant.
The girls did better at significant levels in Latvia and New Zealand.
The boys did better in Austria, Denmark and Korea. Everywhere else was
a statistical dead heat.
==================================
Comments by Tom Mortenson, Senior Scholar,
The Pell Institute for the Study of Opportunity in Higher Education
(personal communication)
"I too have come to appreciate the global scale of the gender issue."
"I [...] fear for the future of men. The world is changing in many ways
that have no particular use for male advantages. [...] In the education data
I study, far too many boys are arriving at college age confused, depressed and
directionless."
"I have recently assembled data on suicide by gender for those 15 to 24
years old over the last 100 years. The problems boys are having compared
to girls really begin to appear about 1930 in these data. Up to that
point young males were about 1.5 times as likely to kill themselves
compared to young females. Then the suicide ratio began to grow and is
now 5.5 to 6 times greater for males than it is for females."
==================================
SCIENTISTS & EMPLOYMENT IN RELATED FIELDS (% female):
1983 => 2001 Field
41.4 => 64.1 Administrators in education and related fields
57.1 => 61.7 Psychologists
37.9 => 52.3 Economists
---- => 51.5 Medical scientists
31.3 => 46.9 Operations and systems researchers and analysts
40.8 => 44.0 Biological and life scientists
36.3 => 43.3 College/university teachers
20.5 => 34.3 Natural scientists
23.3 => 31.0 Chemists, except biochem
29.6 => 30.1 Mathematical and computer scientists
27.8 => 27.4 Computer systems analysts, scientists
18.0 => 23.5 Geologists & geodesists
It's very likely that in most of these areas the momentum will
carry the pendulum swing past 50-50, especially given who's
going into and coming out of colleges these days.
==================================
US COLLEGE ATTENDANCE 1999-2000, survey of 1006 colleges and universities:
830 colleges & universities majority female
176 colleges & universities majority male
US COLLEGE DEGREES (% awarded to women):
By field and type:
1971 ===> 2000
BS MS PhD BS MS PhD
44.4 40.6 24.0 76.5 75.4 67.4 Psychology
29.1 33.6 16.7 58.3 55.3 44.1 Biology
36.8 28.5 13.9 51.2 50.1 41.2 Social Sciences
37.9 27.1 7.6 47.1 44.9 25.0 Mathematics
13.8 13.3 5.6 40.3 35.4 25.5 Physical Sciences
13.6 10.3 2.3 28.1 33.3 16.9 Computer and Information Sciences
And where do you think it's gonna be in 2010?
Overall (% female):
1960 1970 1980 1990 2000
34.2 40.8 48.9 53.4 57.7 All degrees
---- 43.2 54.1 58.0 60.2 Associate
35.2 43.1 49.0 53.2 57.2 BS
32.0 39.7 49.3 52.6 58.0 MS
---- 5.7 24.3 38.0 45.0 1st Professional
10.0 13.3 30.3 36.8 44.0 PhD
Wanna guess what 2010 will look like, at this rate?
1998, by state (highest & lowest ranking), % awarded to women:
Associate Degrees Bachelor's Degrees Master's Degrees
US 61.0% US 56.1% US 57.1%
Rhode Island 50.03% Utah 50.11% Utah 43.7%
Nebraska 51.3% Montana 52.3% Idaho 50.8%
Hawaii 55.2% Colorado 52.7% Indiana 52.5%
... ... ...
Arkansas 67.4% Mississippi 58.9% South Carolina 64.1%
Louisiana 70.0% Louisiana 58.9% Maine 64.5%
Kentucky 71.0% Alabama 60.2% Vermont 68.1%
==================================
A local snapshot, typical of most other states ...
THE UNIVERSITY OF WISCONSIN SYSTEM:
Total Student Populations (% female, D = PhD-granting university)
1989 1990 1991 1992 1993 1994 1995 1996 1997 1998 1999 2000 2001
Green Bay 62.5 62.3 62.9 62.2 61.9 61.9 63.3 63.2 62.9 63.5 64.4 65.0 66.2
Superior 52.8 53.0 56.0 57.0 57.5 57.3 57.9 59.0 59.1 58.6 60.1 59.7 61.7
River Falls 56.7 56.1 57.3 56.4 56.3 58.0 58.4 59.6 60.2 61.5 62.2 62.1 61.5
Eau Claire 60.4 60.9 60.9 61.3 61.4 61.1 61.2 60.4 60.6 60.2 60.4 61.0 60.1
Oshkosh 57.1 57.9 57.9 57.7 58.5 58.8 58.7 57.9 58.5 58.0 59.0 60.0 59.7
Parkside 53.7 54.4 55.1 56.1 56.5 57.9 58.9 57.3 59.0 58.0 57.7 59.0 58.8
La Crosse 57.6 57.0 56.3 56.7 57.3 57.0 57.0 57.0 56.6 57.5 57.6 57.8 58.2
Stevens Point 51.4 51.8 52.3 53.0 53.1 53.2 54.4 54.1 54.7 55.9 56.9 57.2 56.9
Milwaukee (D) 52.9 53.3 53.1 53.1 53.6 54.6 54.9 54.9 55.3 55.0 55.2 55.5 55.6
Whitewater 53.9 54.4 54.8 54.9 54.4 54.0 54.8 54.8 54.2 53.6 54.0 54.0 53.7
Madison (D) 48.9 49.1 49.1 49.0 48.7 49.5 50.1 51.0 51.2 51.8 51.7 52.0 51.9
Stout 49.3 49.4 49.0 48.8 48.7 48.2 49.0 48.9 49.1 48.5 49.9 49.7 49.2
Platteville 35.3 35.9 37.5 36.8 36.0 36.4 36.9 37.8 36.9 36.9 37.9 39.1 39.5
COMPREHENSIVE 54.3 54.6 55.0 55.1 55.2 55.3 55.9 55.7 55.8 55.9 56.5 56.9 56.8
COLLEGES 54.6 53.0 55.0 55.0 53.9 54.8 55.3 55.9 56.6 56.5 56.3 55.6 56.2
DOCTORAL 50.4 50.6 50.6 50.5 50.5 51.4 51.8 52.4 52.7 53.0 53.0 53.3 53.3
UW SYSTEM 52.7 52.8 53.1 53.1 53.2 53.6 54.2 54.3 54.6 54.7 55.0 55.3 55.3
Graduate Student Population (% female, D = PhD-granting university)
1989 1990 1991 1992 1993 1994 1995 1996 1997 1998 1999 2000 2001
Stevens Point 73.4 74.5 72.7 70.2 72.8 75.2 74.4 76.6 76.2 74.4 78.5 74.5 74.2
Eau Claire 70.3 68.4 68.3 74.0 72.9 74.9 75.6 76.2 78.3 75.0 72.6 76.7 73.9
River Falls 76.3 74.4 78.4 77.5 75.3 74.8 72.8 73.1 74.0 73.2 72.9 71.9 71.7
Superior 58.6 58.8 61.2 64.7 64.1 68.1 65.4 64.3 63.0 58.0 61.0 64.6 66.4
Stout 52.8 51.2 55.7 51.6 54.4 53.4 60.9 61.3 63.6 63.2 63.3 64.1 66.2
Platteville 65.4 65.9 69.4 59.7 68.4 63.0 69.3 71.3 70.2 67.4 70.9 65.2 65.8
Green Bay 54.7 52.6 61.2 36.8 48.0 49.3 52.2 54.0 56.2 50.3 65.5 60.4 64.2
Oshkosh 60.2 61.5 63.0 62.1 62.5 62.7 63.6 62.7 63.2 59.6 62.9 64.9 63.7
Whitewater 58.8 62.6 62.0 64.1 62.6 62.1 66.4 65.1 67.2 66.8 62.7 65.3 61.4
Milwaukee (D) 54.2 54.9 55.3 55.5 57.0 58.8 59.5 59.0 59.6 59.7 59.8 59.3 59.2
La Crosse 62.7 61.4 57.5 61.2 67.2 62.1 62.5 61.2 56.9 63.1 61.8 60.8 58.1
Parkside 56.7 49.0 42.4 48.6 63.3 66.1 63.8 57.8 54.2 50.0 47.1 51.6 48.7
Madison (D) 42.7 43.9 44.3 45.0 45.2 45.8 46.3 47.3 47.6 48.3 48.4 48.6 48.7
COMPREHENSIVE 62.2 62.8 63.5 63.6 64.8 64.3 66.1 65.3 65.6 64.2 64.8 65.9 64.7
DOCTORAL 46.0 47.1 47.5 47.9 48.5 49.5 50.1 50.7 51.2 51.7 51.6 51.6 51.5
UW SYSTEM 50.7 51.7 52.2 52.2 53.0 53.7 54.7 54.9 55.4 55.3 55.3 55.7 55.2
==================================
LOCALLY, UW-Green Bay (% female):
1975: 46.1%
1980: 56.1%
1985: 58.6%
1990: 62.3%
1995: 63.0%
2000: 65.1%
2001: 66.3%
2002: 65.9%
Total male enrollment unchanged through this period, except
for steady decline since 2000, at or near 25-year lows in 2002.
==================================
LOCALLY, UW-Milwaukee By School, Fall 2001:
(% enrollment female)
Undergrad, 54.3% Total
91.6% Nursing
77.7% Education
75.1% Health Sciences
65.4% Social Welfare
57.6% Letters & Science
55.2% The Arts
-----------------------------------
50.0% Information Studies
-----------------------------------
43.1% Business Administration
33.7% Architecture & Urban Planning
13.6% Engineering & Applied Science
Special Students, 63.2% Total
Non-Degree Candidates, 58.9% Total
Grad, 59.3% Total
93.8% Nursing
86.6% Social Welfare
86.5% Health Sciences
79.5% Information Studies
77.6% Education
62.8% The Arts
57.1% Letters & Science
-----------------------------------
39.3% Business Administration
34.9% Architecture & Urban Planning
19.8% Engineering & Applied Science
Major Changes:
Letters & Science: crossed 50-50 in 1986, rising steadily
Business Administration: rising steadily from the lower 30's in the 1980's
Architecture & Urban Planning: rising steadily the upper 20's in the 1980's
"Axel Van Kampen" <sparqs_remove@no-spam> wrote:
> Uhu. You better tell the cops then to alter their plans then. They plan to
> use DNA testing as a means of identification in criminal investigations on
> the basis that every persons DNA is unique.
Intentional non-sequitur.
And quit top posting.
Greg <gwa001@no-spam> wrote:
> > USA, proficiency scores
> > Reading, 17 year olds Writing, 11th grade
> > Year Male Female Year Male Female
> > 1979-80 282 289 1983-84 281 299
> > 1987-88 286 294 1987-88 282 299
> > 1998-99 282 295 1995-96 275 292
> > pulling away huge gap
>
> So how come we have all these people weeping about how girls
> are disadvantaged in education? Why all the programs
> specifically to help those "disadvantaged" girls?
That's pretty much past tense and was mostly an American quirk.
The AAUW's was exposed as "the empress has no clothes" starting back
in the late 20th century (late 1990's), once the media finally
started reporting on the long-present female/male disparity in education.
This group, and numerous other organized (American) interests (such
as NOW) have in their best interest to maintain the notion of the
woman as victim and women as underclass, or else a good part of
their very reason to exist will be gone. So you might say they're
looking for issues or probelms and will fabricate one (by faking
research data), if none is to be found.
It gives a whole new meaning to the term Witch Hunt.
The greatest enemy to organized feminist institutions, ironically,
is any purveying (no matter how true) of the news of an already
existing or growing female equality or even outright supremacy.
Peter Wicks (aka "Che Guava"), posting as "fasgnadh", wrote
in <be3eir$2jjm$1@no-spam>:
> "Someone New" wrote:
> > Ned Latham wrote:
> > > Peter Wicks (aka "Che Guava"), posting as "fasgnadh", wrote:
----snip----
> > > > But he's just as STUPID as the other racists, trying to tell
> > > > us a land supporting nearly 20 MILLION people in world class
> > > > comfort, with abundant food, cars, TV's, surfboards and BBQ's
> > > > is 'inhospitable'!
> > >
> > > At roughly comparable levels of "comfort":
> * >
> * > The USA is about 1.2 times the size of Australia, and
> * > supports over twenty times the population;
> * >
> * > Europe is about 1.3 times tha size of Australia and supports
> * > over thirty five times the population.
> * >
> * > At lower levels of "comfort":
> * >
> * > China is about 1.2 times the size of Australia, and supports
> * > over fifty times the population;
> * >
> * > India's about 0.4 times the size of Australia and supports
> * > nearly fifty times the population;
> * >
> * > Indonesia's about 0.24 times the size of Australia and
> * > supports over five times the population.
> * >
> * > And at that, Australia'a overpopulated. Our water resources are so
> * > stretched that we have water restrictions in parts of the country
> * > right now (in winter!), and our salination problems have been getting
> * > worse for decades.
>
> BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA!
>
> So these soft-bellied, mamby pamby nancy boys regard
> anything short of the fat-butter-popcorn 'COMFORT" that
> the Merkin lardarses seem to need, as essential, or else
> the land is too 'inhospitable' for them!
Oh look. The mad dog is misrepresenting the concept of "comfort"
introduced into the thread by ... er ... oh yes, the mad dog.
> Med Latham and SomeOne-New-to-the-Country are clearly
> not descendents of the hardy settler stock who helped
> found the Australian nation!
Obviously the mad dog's ranting about himself again. The fact is,
we know (but apparently he does not know) that this, the second most
inhospitable continent on the planet, was made liveable for such a
large population at such high levels of comfort by human effort, all
of which was exerted in the 180-odd years following the arrival of
the First Fleet, and by the people he now spends his "life" trying
to denigrate and defame.
> > > The USA is about 1.2 times the size of Australia, and supports
> > > over twenty times the population;
>
> Antartica is nearly TWICE the size of Australia and the USSA, and
> supports less than 0.0000001% of their populations!
Golly, the mad dog got something right. Zero *is* less than 0.0000001%,
of *any* positive number.
> NOW THAT IS **INHOSPITABLE*
Gee. Guano managed to learn something from one of my posts. See
Message-ID: <slrnbfka6l.1is.ned@no-spam>, where I stated:
"Apart from Antarctica, Australia is the most inhospitable continent on
the planet".
> YOU NAMBY PAMBY,
> LIMP DICKED, COTTON WOOL COWARDS!
You don't have the right to call anyone a coward, you spineless, gutless
traitor.
----snip----
Ned
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