AUS GENERAL 77 RE FREE TRADE MEANS US TV FILMS WILL SWAMP YOUR TV
From: pbh@no-spam (peebs)
Subject: Re: Free Trade means US TV/Films will SWAMP your TV
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 00:11:36 +1100


damnfine <damnfine@no-spam> wrote:

> ho'JU wrote:
> > > > Too late, we aready have been. Swamped that is.
> > >
> > > The less room there is for Australian-made TV the better. Let's be honest.

> >
> > If they halved the number of Australian made shows but spent the same amount
> > then they could come up with some more brilliant shows.
> > How do you figure? I don't think money is the problem.
> Of course money's the problem. An episode of 6FU costs $US2m, for instance. If more money was available here for script development and writing, we may have a higher standard of TV drama.

-- peeby







From: pbh@no-spam (peebs)
Subject: Re: Free Trade means US TV/Films will SWAMP your TV
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 21:14:26 +1100

ho'JU <jaspar@no-spam> wrote:

> "damnfine" <damnfine@no-spam> wrote
> > Writers will write better if you pay them more?

No, time is money. So, more money means more time to do more drafts to get scripts right. More money means the ability to hire better writers and script editors, whether they be from Australia, US or UK. More money means the ability to hire more experienced or commercially successful directors and producers who can provide more rigorous script management.
We have fine actors in this country, and great DoPs, sound recordists and editors, and post/FX resources and facilities (as can be evidenced by the accolades and awards achieved in the US holyland you so admire)
but no Australian has ever won an inetrnational award for writing a good SCRIPT. Every bit of drama begins and ends with a script. Put the money and resources and training into script development and things may change.
> > Possibly they will work harder. But with more money they could hire US > writers with talent.
> > Then we could have Australian versions of The Practice, Ally McBeal,
> Boomtown, Law and Order, and Blues Clues.
I'd rather get some writers from the UK, but that's just personal...

-- peeby

From: pbh@no-spam (peebs)
Subject: Re: Free Trade means US TV/Films will SWAMP your TV
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 00:06:04 +1100

damnfine <damnfine@no-spam> wrote:

> peebs wrote:
> > If I was going to get US writers here, I'd be asking Alan Ball and Alun > > Sorkin and the creators of The Sopranos.
> > Aaron Sorkin maybe... in Sports Night mode, not West Wing mode.
> Yep..him, in both modes. (Tnx for the correction...brain temporarily disengaged!)

-- peeby

From: "Rod Speed" (rod_speed@no-spam)
Subject: Re: Free Trade also means FREEDOM OF CHOICE
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 16:41:32 +1000

Benjamina <anonymous@no-spam> wrote in message news:08617659c7fd77b7f70692d4d63b2a9b@no-spam

>>> No. However, we are talking about consumer trade, things like TVs,
>>> computers, electicals, entertainment, reptiles, pets, food, etc etc >>> etc...we're not talking about critical issues like healthcare...

>> The PBS system is however included in what is being negotiated.

> If they're going to chuck in the PBS
They wont. Thats just the usual ambit claim.

The wont completely bin all protection of the film and TV industrys either.

> then they should allow me the freedom to keep corn snakes
Fark, not that loony, still rabbiting on about corn snakes...

> (as all Americans and Europeans are able to)
> as an example of free trade...

We wont have free trade in our wildlife either.

We wont be having free trade in firearms either.

> and stop giving the big Australian reptile breeders the favours that > they've been getting such as the "ban on exotics" which has allowed > them to amass enormous profits off the trade in a captive market.
> The "ban on exotics" has nothing to do with environmental protection
Bullshit.

> and has everything to do with restriction of trade
Bullshit.

> - something that I'm pretty sure some big greedy breeders > would be connected with...I'm almost certain that I swear by it.

You can swear as much as you like, changes absolutely nothing.


From: "Rod Speed" (rod_speed@no-spam)
Subject: Re: Free Trade also means FREEDOM OF CHOICE
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 16:42:14 +1000

"A L P" <bluebird2@no-spam> wrote in message news:3f03c217@no-spam > Benjamina wrote:
> >>>No. However, we are talking about consumer trade, things like TVs,
> >>>computers, electicals, entertainment, reptiles, pets, food, etc etc > >>>etc...we're not talking about critical issues like healthcare...
> >>
> >>The PBS system is however included in what is being negotiated.
> >
> >
> > If they're going to chuck in the PBS then they should allow me the freedom > > to keep corn snakes (as all Americans and Europeans are able to) as an > > example of free trade...and stop giving the big Australian reptile breeders > > the favours that they've been getting such as the "ban on exotics" which has
> > allowed them to amass enormous profits off the trade in a captive market.
> > The "ban on exotics" has nothing to do with environmental protection and has
> > everything to do with restriction of trade - something that I'm pretty sure > > some big greedy breeders would be connected with...I'm almost certain that I
> > swear by it.
> >
> >
> Why did you cross-post this to nz.soc.queer?

Because he's extremely queer indeed, stupid.


From: "Rod Speed" (rod_speed@no-spam)
Subject: Re: Free Trade also means FREEDOM OF CHOICE
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 18:20:04 +1000

"A L P" <bluebird2@no-spam> wrote in message news:3f03c217@no-spam > Benjamina wrote:
> >>>No. However, we are talking about consumer trade, things like TVs,
> >>>computers, electicals, entertainment, reptiles, pets, food, etc etc > >>>etc...we're not talking about critical issues like healthcare...
> >>
> >>The PBS system is however included in what is being negotiated.
> >
> >
> > If they're going to chuck in the PBS then they should allow me the freedom > > to keep corn snakes (as all Americans and Europeans are able to) as an > > example of free trade...and stop giving the big Australian reptile breeders > > the favours that they've been getting such as the "ban on exotics" which has
> > allowed them to amass enormous profits off the trade in a captive market.
> > The "ban on exotics" has nothing to do with environmental protection and has
> > everything to do with restriction of trade - something that I'm pretty sure > > some big greedy breeders would be connected with...I'm almost certain that I
> > swear by it.
> >
> >
> Why did you cross-post this to nz.soc.queer?

Because he's extremely queer indeed, stupid.