AUS LEGAL 23 RE SHIPPING CONTAINER IN BACK YARD
From: "Rod Speed" (rod_speed@no-spam)
Subject: Re: shipping container in back yard
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 04:28:06 +1000


Boc <Boc@no-spam> wrote in message news:cwgKa.136$jP1.10667@no-spam > Rod Speed <rod_speed@no-spam> wrote >> Tony Smith <tonyREMOVE@no-spam> wrote
>>>> Thinking of putting one in backyard as a shed.
>>>> I'm "told" don't need permit or anything as it is "moveable".

>>>> Correct or not??

>>> Go to your local recycling yard and buy a pair of axles >>> with wheels. Stick them underneath and it's a trailer.

>> Wont save your bacon. Most councils wont allow you >> to keep a semi trailer in your back yard for example.

>> Or a large caravan either for that matter with some.

> That's very interesting actually - I can fully understand > why you cant park a truck in a suburban quiet street > as it may cause danger to local traffic -

Its not the danger so much as it lowers the tone just a tad.

> But what cause does the Council have to stop you > parking the same vehicle in your back yard, especially > if you have no intentions in moving it for many years ?

Its basically a zoning thing. There is some stuff you arent allowed to do in residential areas.

> P.s always amazed at how different councils work
Yeah, plenty dont care too much what happens with that stuff in the dregs residential areas and only do something about it if they get a complaint in the posher areas etc.

And there's always a few jumped up little hitlers 'working' for councils that get stroppy just to feed their pathetic little egos.


From: "Bocİ" (Boc@no-spam)
Subject: Re: shipping container in back yard
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 08:36:03 +1000

"Rod Speed" <rod_speed@no-spam> wrote in message news:bdcpjk$rbhui$1@no-spam
> And there's always a few jumped up little hitlers 'working' for > councils that get stroppy just to feed their pathetic little egos.
>
>

AAh yes , i have had encounters with such people. Somewhat like what a cops - could not get a real job so they do the next best thing :)

Boc

From: "Ken Taylor" (ken123@no-spam)
Subject: Re: shipping container in back yard
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 11:31:53 +1200

"Bocİ" <Boc@no-spam> wrote in message news:ktpKa.8$3M2.721@no-spam >
> "Rod Speed" <rod_speed@no-spam> wrote in message > news:bdcpjk$rbhui$1@no-spam >
>
> > And there's always a few jumped up little hitlers 'working' for > > councils that get stroppy just to feed their pathetic little egos.
> >
> >
>
> AAh yes , i have had encounters with such people. Somewhat like what a > cops - could not get a real job so they do the next best thing :)
>
> Boc >
The cops have a real job - council inspectors, parking officers and the like couldn't make the grade and so don't have real jobs!


From: Martin Taylor (mtaylor@no-spam)
Subject: Re: shipping container in back yard
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 09:24:27 +1000

Rod Speed said....
RS> Its basically a zoning thing. There is some stuff RS> you arent allowed to do in residential areas.

Like running a business, perhaps?

If so, I wish that the council here would enforce such zoning laws.
Bloke down the road ran a car security alarm/mobile phone business from his home. Another has a glass and glazing business. Another sells blinds, with an advert in his lounge room window.

As for log trucks being parked in the street.....

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From: "Phil Allison" (philallison@no-spam)
Subject: Re: shipping container in back yard
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 14:36:51 +1000

"Martin Taylor" <mtaylor@no-spam> wrote in message news:3efbc0d6.7082fc9e.bm001@no-spam > Rod Speed said....
>
> RS> Its basically a zoning thing. There is some stuff > RS> you arent allowed to do in residential areas.

>
> Like running a business, perhaps?

** Perfectly legal - its called a "home occupation". The right to work from one's home is a basic right - dates back to the days of "cottage industries". Doctors, lawyers, accountants, music teachers etc are common home occupations.

There are rules which include that all persons engaged in the business must reside on the premises. It is not enough to own the premises - you must actually live in it .

............... Phil

From: "Rod Speed" (rod_speed@no-spam)
Subject: Re: shipping container in back yard
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 16:05:37 +1000

Martin Taylor <mtaylor@no-spam> wrote in message news:3efbc0d6.7082fc9e.bm001@no-spam > Rod Speed said....

>> Its basically a zoning thing. There is some stuff >> you arent allowed to do in residential areas.

> Like running a business, perhaps?

Not necessarily even just running a business. Lots of the detail is controlled by council bylaws etc, like how many horses etc you are welcome to have in your backyard etc.

> If so, I wish that the council here would enforce such zoning laws.
> Bloke down the road ran a car security alarm/mobile phone business > from his home. Another has a glass and glazing business. Another > sells blinds, with an advert in his lounge room window.

Quite a few of the smaller businesses are allowed in residential areas in quite a few council areas.

> As for log trucks being parked in the street.....

Thats mostly state law.


From: ppnerkDELETETHIS@no-spam (Phred)
Subject: Home business [Was: shipping container in back yard]
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 13:21:32 GMT

In article <3efbc9e9$0$26636$afc38c87@no-spam>, "Phil Allison" <philallison@no-spam> wrote:

>"Martin Taylor" <mtaylor@no-spam> wrote in message >news:3efbc0d6.7082fc9e.bm001@no-spam >> Rod Speed said....
>>
>> RS> Its basically a zoning thing. There is some stuff >> RS> you arent allowed to do in residential areas.
>> Like running a business, perhaps?
>
> ** Perfectly legal - its called a "home occupation". The right to work >from one's home is a basic right - dates back to the days of "cottage >industries". Doctors, lawyers, accountants, music teachers etc are >common home occupations.

Interesting. I guess in theory only the music teachers of those listed could potentially be accused of noise nuisance -- disregarding the cries of agony, frustration, and pain associated with the first three respectively.

> There are rules which include that all persons engaged in the business >must reside on the premises. It is not enough to own the premises - you >must actually live in it .

That is, avoid USENET and "get a life"? ;-)

Cheers, Phred.

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From: ppnerkDELETETHIS@no-spam (Phred)
Subject: Re: shipping container in back yard
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 13:24:57 GMT

In article <3efbc0d6.5f1cd95c.bm002@no-spam>, Martin Taylor <mtaylor@no-spam> wrote:
>Ken Taylor said.... >
> KT> The cops have a real job - council inspectors, parking officers and the > KT> like couldn't make the grade and so don't have real jobs!
>
>Having had to deal with "inspectors" on both a professional and private >basis, I'm sure that they're all got some genetic commonality. Whether >they be an electrical inspector, plumbing or building inspector or >whatever, I've never met a more pedantic and officious bunch of people.

The interesting aspect of that is the question of whether they took the job because they are like that; or whether they are like that because they took the job.

Cheers, Phred.

-- ppnerkDELETE@no-spam

From: "Frank Martin" (frank@no-spam)
Subject: Re: shipping container in back yard
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 16:35:01 +1000

I heard that truck drivers are afraid that the local louts will spray-paint the sides of the trucks with the usual nonsensical drivel.

"Bocİ" <Boc@no-spam> wrote in message news:cwgKa.136$jP1.10667@no-spam >
> "Rod Speed" <rod_speed@no-spam> wrote in message > news:bd38e9$ogv7r$1@no-spam > >
> > Tony Smith <tonyREMOVE@no-spam> wrote in message > > news:newscache$ln1vgh$nua$1@no-spam > >
> > >> Thinking of putting one in backyard as a shed.
> > >> I'm "told" don't need permit or anything as it is "moveable".
> >
> > >> Correct or not??
> >
> > > Go to your local recycling yard and buy a pair of axles > > > with wheels. Stick them underneath and it's a trailer.
> >
> > Wont save your bacon. Most councils wont allow you > > to keep a semi trailer in your back yard for example.
> >
> > Or a large caravan either for that matter with some.
>
> That's very interesting actually - I can fully understand why you cant park > a truck in a suburban quiet street as it may cause danger to local traffic -
> But what cause does the Council have to stop you parking the same vehicle in > your back yard, especially if you have no intentions in moving it for many > years ?
>
> Boc >
> P.s always amazed at how different councils work >
>
>