AUS LEGAL 46 RE MAY I SEARCH YOUR VEHICLE SIR MADAM
From: AlanG (me@no-spam)
Subject: Re: May I search your vehicle, sir/madam?
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 20:43:02 +0100


On Fri, 27 Jun 2003 10:30:38 -0600, "=> Vox Populi ©" <vox@no-spam>
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>"Charles Packer" <mailbox@no-spam> wrote in message >news:f88bc493.0306270443.4c317774@no-spam >
>> It's illegal for a police officer to search your car if >> he _asks_, and you refuse. True or false?
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>False.

Make sure you say where you are posting from cos this post is going to an alt group as well as to UK, US, Canadian and Aussie groups. Now much as the US would like to believe their law applies everywhere else it doesn't as yet.
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>He may already have probable cause, reasonable suspicion, and or >custodial authority to do so and may merely be "asking" to obtain >the reaction/demeanor/response from the suspect as further evidence >
>>I recall there was >> information on this question at some state ACLU site, but >> I don't remember which one. A recent thread here ("consent >> to vehicle search") doesn't quite cover the ground I'm >> interested in, which is before you give any kind of >> consent to search. Another thread here, "Best way to refuse >> a search of my car" is so huge and chaotic I didn't know >> where to jump in to find anything relevant. Actually, I >> can't imagine any circumstances where an officer would >> merely ask to search your car, yet I've seen news articles >> about court cases arising out of consent.
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>It's standard corrupt cop proceedure to ask, then search >regardless of the response. If they find something, they >merely testi-lie in court that the driver gave consent.

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Alan G "The corporate life [of society] must be subservient to the lives of the parts instead of the lives of the parts being subservient to the corporate life." (Herbert Spencer)


From: AlanG (me@no-spam)
Subject: Re: May I search your vehicle, sir/madam?
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2003 20:25:29 +0100

On Fri, 27 Jun 2003 17:16:16 -0600, "=> Vox Populi ©" <vox@no-spam>
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>"AlanG" <me@no-spam> wrote in message >news:tc7pfvcen2tge8720qilgcd45rotkknull@no-spam >> On Fri, 27 Jun 2003 10:30:38 -0600, "=> Vox Populi ©" <vox@no-spam>
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>> >"Charles Packer" <mailbox@no-spam> wrote in message >> >news:f88bc493.0306270443.4c317774@no-spam >> >
>> >> It's illegal for a police officer to search your car if >> >> he _asks_, and you refuse. True or false?
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>> >False.
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>> Make sure you say where you are posting from cos this post is going to >> an alt group as well as to UK, US, Canadian and Aussie groups. Now >> much as the US would like to believe their law applies everywhere else >> it doesn't as yet.
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>Tell that to the Iraqis, Afghanis, Panamanians, Grenadians, etc ...
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I hear the people in Iraq and Afghanistan are still arguing about that.

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Alan G "The corporate life [of society] must be subservient to the lives of the parts instead of the lives of the parts being subservient to the corporate life." (Herbert Spencer)