AUS RADIO BROADCAST 17 RE 4BH
From: "amstereo-matt2" (amstereo@no-spam n e t dot c o m dot a u)
Subject: Re: 4BH
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 22:31:26 +1000


go magic, turn stereo back on, instant am ratings scorer :)

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"Paul in Melbourne" <pn1@no-spam> wrote in message news:XFdKa.779$9g2.7023@no-spam > I read somewhere that 4BH is to change to the Magic 693 format next month.
>
> There is no mention of the change on the 4BH website.
>
> Would the programs continue to be broadcast from Brisbane or is there scope > for some form of networking?
>
> Magic 693 must be one of the contemporary radio success stories in that it > has a reasonable rating for its demographic and would cost a lot less to run > than 3AW.
>
> Paul in Melbourne >
>


From: "arfur" (arfurchubby@no-spam)
Subject: Re: 4BH
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 22:47:17 +1000

Paul in Melbourne <pn1@no-spam> wrote in message news:XFdKa.779$9g2.7023@no-spam > I read somewhere that 4BH is to change to the Magic 693 format next month.
>
> There is no mention of the change on the 4BH website.
>
> Would the programs continue to be broadcast from Brisbane or is there scope > for some form of networking?
>
> Magic 693 must be one of the contemporary radio success stories in that it > has a reasonable rating for its demographic and would cost a lot less to run > than 3AW.
>
> Paul in Melbourne
There is a simple, inexpensive way to make 4BH -very- profitable again (despite what consultants say), not to mention successful as per the overall ratings, and moreso for their targetted core. And no,
it's not via some format importation.

Piece o' piss.

Trust me.

arfur

From: "amstereo-matt2" (amstereo@no-spam n e t dot c o m dot a u)
Subject: Re: 4BH
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 23:09:43 +1000

well, SPIT IT OUT :)

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"arfur" <arfurchubby@no-spam> wrote in message news:3ef998c2_1@no-spam >
> Paul in Melbourne <pn1@no-spam> wrote in message > news:XFdKa.779$9g2.7023@no-spam > > I read somewhere that 4BH is to change to the Magic 693 format next month.
> >
> > There is no mention of the change on the 4BH website.
> >
> > Would the programs continue to be broadcast from Brisbane or is there > scope > > for some form of networking?
> >
> > Magic 693 must be one of the contemporary radio success stories in that it > > has a reasonable rating for its demographic and would cost a lot less to > run > > than 3AW.
> >
> > Paul in Melbourne >
>
> There is a simple, inexpensive way to make 4BH -very- profitable > again (despite what consultants say), not to mention successful as > per the overall ratings, and moreso for their targetted core. And no,
> it's not via some format importation.
>
> Piece o' piss.
>
> Trust me.
>
> arfur >
>


From: alnairgrus@no-spam (Michael)
Subject: Re: 4BH
Date: 25 Jun 2003 14:04:17 -0700

"amstereo-matt2" <amstereo@no-spam n e t dot c o m dot a u> wrote in message news:<3ef99609$0$30568$afc38c87@no-spam>...

> go magic, turn stereo back on, instant am ratings scorer :)
> > --
> i 1197am the new sound of Brisbane > (a proud listener)
> "Paul in Melbourne" <pn1@no-spam> wrote in message > news:XFdKa.779$9g2.7023@no-spam > > I read somewhere that 4BH is to change to the Magic 693 format next month.
> >
> > There is no mention of the change on the 4BH website.
> >
> > Would the programs continue to be broadcast from Brisbane or is there > scope > > for some form of networking?
> >
> > Magic 693 must be one of the contemporary radio success stories in that it > > has a reasonable rating for its demographic and would cost a lot less to > run > > than 3AW.
> >
> > Paul in Melbourne > >
> >

Unfortunately it be another good station(4BH) that I wouldnt get in NZ if it goes AM stereo as theres a religious outfit- 10kW local on 882
here as most Brisbane stations that don't clash are recieved here at night.;-(
Michael

From: "Mike" (mjthomas@no-spam)
Subject: Re: 4BH
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 08:11:54 +1000

> There is a simple, inexpensive way to make 4BH -very- profitable > again (despite what consultants say), not to mention successful as > per the overall ratings, and moreso for their targetted core. And no,
> it's not via some format importation.
>
> Piece o' piss.
>
> Trust me.
>
> arfur >
Well, don't keep us in suspense, teaser.


From: "arfur" (arfurchubby@no-spam)
Subject: Re: 4BH
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 00:10:45 GMT

"Mike" <mjthomas@no-spam> wrote in message news:bdd6n5$rr9co$1@no-spam : > There is a simple, inexpensive way to make 4BH -very- profitable : > again (despite what consultants say), not to mention successful as : > per the overall ratings, and moreso for their targetted core. And no,
: > it's not via some format importation.
: >
: > Piece o' piss.
: >
: > Trust me.
: >
: > arfur : >
: Well, don't keep us in suspense, teaser.

Can somebody please post a random hour of their music (prefer somewhere between 6am-
6pm). One hour is fine. Thanks.


From: "BofH" (matt@no-spam)
Subject: Re: 4BH
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 06:33:17 GMT

"arfur" <arfurchubby@no-spam> wrote in message news:newscache$s6b2hh$fba$1@no-spam
> Can somebody please post a random hour of > their music (prefer somewhere between 6am-
> 6pm). One hour is fine. Thanks.

http://members.datafast.net.au/bofh/882.mp3

=)


From: "amstereo-matt2" (amstereo@no-spam n e t dot c o m dot a u)
Subject: Re: 4BH
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 17:05:51 +1000

the only thiung you need to remember is that 4bh change the playlist every season,. its a very noticable change,

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"arfur" <arfurchubby@no-spam> wrote in message news:newscache$t1t2hh$jw$1@no-spam >
> "BofH" <matt@no-spam> wrote in message > news:NswKa.409$Py2.5247@no-spam > : "arfur" <arfurchubby@no-spam> wrote in message > : news:newscache$s6b2hh$fba$1@no-spam > :
> : > Can somebody please post a random hour of > : > their music (prefer somewhere between 6am-
> : > 6pm). One hour is fine. Thanks.
> :
> : http://members.datafast.net.au/bofh/882.mp3
> :
> : =)
>
> onya Matt. How about the text version?
>
>


From: alnairgrus@no-spam (Michael)
Subject: Re: 4BH
Date: 26 Jun 2003 14:23:12 -0700

"amstereo-matt2" <amstereo@no-spam n e t dot c o m dot a u> wrote in message news:<3efa9b44$0$16256$afc38c87@no-spam>...

> the only thiung you need to remember is that 4bh change the playlist every > season,. its a very noticable change,
> > --
> i 1197am the new sound of Brisbane > (a proud listener)
> "arfur" <arfurchubby@no-spam> wrote in message > news:newscache$t1t2hh$jw$1@no-spam > >
> > "BofH" <matt@no-spam> wrote in message > > news:NswKa.409$Py2.5247@no-spam > > : "arfur" <arfurchubby@no-spam> wrote in message > > : news:newscache$s6b2hh$fba$1@no-spam > > :
> > : > Can somebody please post a random hour of > > : > their music (prefer somewhere between 6am-
> > : > 6pm). One hour is fine. Thanks.
> > :
> > : http://members.datafast.net.au/bofh/882.mp3
> > :
> >Had a listen to the mp3 of 4BH-its ads etc are similar to our Easy listening I 98.2 in Auckland but 4BH has a lot more oldies wheres our "I" has about 60% of the soft hits from only the last 3 or 4 years and 35% from 1986 up till the late 90's so our one sounds a bit like clone of many others on the dial.

4BH doesnt sound too bad actually.
Michael

From: "amstereo-matt2" (amstereo@no-spam n e t dot c o m dot a u)
Subject: Re: 4BH
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 11:00:40 +1000

as far as an am station goes, they are set ok right now, most 40+ people don't have another station to go to, because there all slightly too heavy.
4BH and 4BC are southern cross' brisbane babies, one an easy listening format and one a talk station and together they are brillient, they work well and they have a large listener base..,

there ratings arn't terribly high, but theyre a always here station not a fly by night, i havn't noticed a format change in over 15 years, nothing that stands out (apart from the dropping of the stereo signal) i doubt they wuld change very much as it sits, they have there niche filled right now and this is filled only by 4BH in the brisbane market, there is 92.1 the breeze,
but they dont get in to brisbane very smoothly.

thats my opinion.

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"arfur" <arfurchubby@no-spam> wrote in message news:newscache$u044hh$yun$1@no-spam >
> "Mike" <mjthomas@no-spam> wrote in message > news:bdd6n5$rr9co$1@no-spam > : > There is a simple, inexpensive way to make 4BH -very- profitable > : > again (despite what consultants say), not to mention successful as > : > per the overall ratings, and moreso for their targetted core. And no,
> : > it's not via some format importation.
> : >
> : > Piece o' piss.
> : >
> : > Trust me.
> : >
> : > arfur > : >
> : Well, don't keep us in suspense, teaser.
>
>
> Look at which segment of the available audience that > has cash and is (becoming) free of other financial > burdens, that is musically disenfranchised by music > radio stations currently, and therein is the answer (imo).
>
> 3MP (on paper) looks like a cc of the 80's 2WS Hits > and Memories format (not that that's a bad thing).
> Combine that with some secret herbs and spices then > -stick to it-.
>
> You know if 2SM had stuck to the Hot Country format > years ago (different owners sure) for just a bit longer,
> they'd have themselves respectable figures (7's). As > it was, 4 wasn't that bad but no.
>
> Done correctly, Hot Country would bring results if an > owner was patient. Off on a tangent here and not > what I'd advocate for 4BH as it does it's heritage no > favours (never underestime the power of that). However > HC is worthy of investigation as an alternate format > if re-discovering their heritage is not to 'BH's liking.
>
> My 10c worth. Glad it's Friday..
>
>


From: "||||||||||||||||||||||||" (spongebob123@no-spam)
Subject: Re: 4BH
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 20:55:15 +1000

"arfur" <arfurchubby@no-spam> wrote in message news:newscache$u044hh$yun$1@no-spam >
> "Mike" <mjthomas@no-spam> wrote in message > news:bdd6n5$rr9co$1@no-spam > : > There is a simple, inexpensive way to make 4BH -very- profitable > : > again (despite what consultants say), not to mention successful as > : > per the overall ratings, and moreso for their targetted core. And no,
> : > it's not via some format importation.
> : >
> : > Piece o' piss.
> : >
> : > Trust me.
> : >
> : > arfur > : >
> : Well, don't keep us in suspense, teaser.
>
>
> Look at which segment of the available audience that > has cash and is (becoming) free of other financial > burdens, that is musically disenfranchised by music > radio stations currently, and therein is the answer (imo).
>
> 3MP (on paper) looks like a cc of the 80's 2WS Hits > and Memories format (not that that's a bad thing).
> Combine that with some secret herbs and spices then > -stick to it-.
>
> You know if 2SM had stuck to the Hot Country format > years ago (different owners sure) for just a bit longer,
> they'd have themselves respectable figures (7's). As > it was, 4 wasn't that bad but no.
>
> Done correctly, Hot Country would bring results if an > owner was patient. Off on a tangent here and not > what I'd advocate for 4BH as it does it's heritage no > favours (never underestime the power of that). However > HC is worthy of investigation as an alternate format > if re-discovering their heritage is not to 'BH's liking.
>
> My 10c worth. Glad it's Friday..
>
>Gee "arfur" here I was thinking you were going to come up with a killer linker clock to super serve the "mamas and papas" on a 10-15min rotation!
to improve TSL.
Didn't 4BC do hot country about 1993.
4AAA now plays a range of country.
-- |||||||||||||||||||||||||| PIBC

From: "Paul in Melbourne" (pn1@no-spam)
Subject: Re: 4BH
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 20:48:47 GMT

From what I heard listening to 4BH when I was in Brisbane in March, their current format was more like 3MP or the Southern Cross easy listening network than Magic 693.
Magic 693 definitely has a focus on the easy listening chart music of the 1960s but the "average age" of the songs does appear to stay fairly constant; i.e. more 70s and perhaps a few 80s songs are coming into the playlist. There are very few non "chart" tunes and there are many "familiar"
[to this 52 year old!] songs that haven't been heard on radio for many years.
So the Magic 693 format would be quite a change for 4BH. Add in a little country (hardly noticeable to the average punter) as Magic 693 does, and you would have a good product for Brisbane.
But as one poster commented - "if it ain't broke why fix it"?
It is interesting to note the different rating figures for 3MP and 4BH when both seem to be following a similar format. Could it be that much is 3MP is recorded (and sounds like it) whereas Magic 693 and 4BH do sound "live"?
Paul in Melbourne
"||||||||||||||||||||||||" <spongebob123@no-spam> wrote in message news:3efc220f$0$5973$afc38c87@no-spam > "arfur" <arfurchubby@no-spam> wrote in message > news:newscache$u044hh$yun$1@no-spam > >
> > "Mike" <mjthomas@no-spam> wrote in message > > news:bdd6n5$rr9co$1@no-spam > > : > There is a simple, inexpensive way to make 4BH -very- profitable > > : > again (despite what consultants say), not to mention successful as > > : > per the overall ratings, and moreso for their targetted core. And no,
> > : > it's not via some format importation.
> > : >
> > : > Piece o' piss.
> > : >
> > : > Trust me.
> > : >
> > : > arfur > > : >
> > : Well, don't keep us in suspense, teaser.
> >
> >
> > Look at which segment of the available audience that > > has cash and is (becoming) free of other financial > > burdens, that is musically disenfranchised by music > > radio stations currently, and therein is the answer (imo).
> >
> > 3MP (on paper) looks like a cc of the 80's 2WS Hits > > and Memories format (not that that's a bad thing).
> > Combine that with some secret herbs and spices then > > -stick to it-.
> >
> > You know if 2SM had stuck to the Hot Country format > > years ago (different owners sure) for just a bit longer,
> > they'd have themselves respectable figures (7's). As > > it was, 4 wasn't that bad but no.
> >
> > Done correctly, Hot Country would bring results if an > > owner was patient. Off on a tangent here and not > > what I'd advocate for 4BH as it does it's heritage no > > favours (never underestime the power of that). However > > HC is worthy of investigation as an alternate format > > if re-discovering their heritage is not to 'BH's liking.
> >
> > My 10c worth. Glad it's Friday..
> >
> >Gee "arfur" here I was thinking you were going to > come up with a killer linker clock to super serve the > "mamas and papas" on a 10-15min rotation!
> to improve TSL.
> Didn't 4BC do hot country about 1993.
> 4AAA now plays a range of country.
> -- > |||||||||||||||||||||||||| PIBC >
>
>
>


From: "arfur" (arfurchubby@no-spam)
Subject: Re: 4BH
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 05:52:58 GMT

"||||||||||||||||||||||||" <spongebob123@no-spam> wrote in message news:3efc220f$0$5973$afc38c87@no-spam : "arfur" <arfurchubby@no-spam> wrote in message : news:newscache$u044hh$yun$1@no-spam : >
: > "Mike" <mjthomas@no-spam> wrote in message : > news:bdd6n5$rr9co$1@no-spam : > : > There is a simple, inexpensive way to make 4BH -very- profitable : > : > again (despite what consultants say), not to mention successful as : > : > per the overall ratings, and moreso for their targetted core. And no,
: > : > it's not via some format importation.
: > : >
: > : > Piece o' piss.
: > : >
: > : > Trust me.
: > : >
: > : > arfur : > : >
: > : Well, don't keep us in suspense, teaser.
: >
: >
: > Look at which segment of the available audience that : > has cash and is (becoming) free of other financial : > burdens, that is musically disenfranchised by music : > radio stations currently, and therein is the answer (imo).
: >
: > 3MP (on paper) looks like a cc of the 80's 2WS Hits : > and Memories format (not that that's a bad thing).
: > Combine that with some secret herbs and spices then : > -stick to it-.
: >
: > You know if 2SM had stuck to the Hot Country format : > years ago (different owners sure) for just a bit longer,
: > they'd have themselves respectable figures (7's). As : > it was, 4 wasn't that bad but no.
: >
: > Done correctly, Hot Country would bring results if an : > owner was patient. Off on a tangent here and not : > what I'd advocate for 4BH as it does it's heritage no : > favours (never underestime the power of that). However : > HC is worthy of investigation as an alternate format : > if re-discovering their heritage is not to 'BH's liking.
: >
: > My 10c worth. Glad it's Friday..
: >
: >Gee "arfur" here I was thinking you were going to : come up with a killer linker clock to super serve the : "mamas and papas" on a 10-15min rotation!
: to improve TSL.

Np. Got $20k?

: Didn't 4BC do hot country about 1993.

<scratches> .. did they?

: 4AAA now plays a range of country.

But does anybody aside from a diehard few -know-
about it?

: --
: |||||||||||||||||||||||||| PIBC :
:
:
:


From: "Shaun Stapleton" (shaun@no-spam)
Subject: Re: 4BH
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 18:31:54 +1000

"arfur" <arfurchubby@no-spam> wrote in message news:newscache$5p5ahh$z6n$1@no-spam >
> "||||||||||||||||||||||||" <spongebob123@no-spam> wrote in message > news:3efc220f$0$5973$afc38c87@no-spam > : "arfur" <arfurchubby@no-spam> wrote in message > : news:newscache$u044hh$yun$1@no-spam > : >
> : > "Mike" <mjthomas@no-spam> wrote in message > : > news:bdd6n5$rr9co$1@no-spam > : > : > There is a simple, inexpensive way to make 4BH -very- profitable > : > : > again (despite what consultants say), not to mention successful as > : > : > per the overall ratings, and moreso for their targetted core. And > no,
> : > : > it's not via some format importation.
> : > : >
> : > : > Piece o' piss.
> : > : >
> : > : > Trust me.
> : > : >
> : > : > arfur > : > : >
> : > : Well, don't keep us in suspense, teaser.
> : >
> : >
> : > Look at which segment of the available audience that > : > has cash and is (becoming) free of other financial > : > burdens, that is musically disenfranchised by music > : > radio stations currently, and therein is the answer (imo).
> : >
> : > 3MP (on paper) looks like a cc of the 80's 2WS Hits > : > and Memories format (not that that's a bad thing).
> : > Combine that with some secret herbs and spices then > : > -stick to it-.
> : >
> : > You know if 2SM had stuck to the Hot Country format > : > years ago (different owners sure) for just a bit longer,
> : > they'd have themselves respectable figures (7's). As > : > it was, 4 wasn't that bad but no.
> : >
> : > Done correctly, Hot Country would bring results if an > : > owner was patient. Off on a tangent here and not > : > what I'd advocate for 4BH as it does it's heritage no > : > favours (never underestime the power of that). However > : > HC is worthy of investigation as an alternate format > : > if re-discovering their heritage is not to 'BH's liking.
> : >
> : > My 10c worth. Glad it's Friday..
> : >
> : >Gee "arfur" here I was thinking you were going to > : come up with a killer linker clock to super serve the > : "mamas and papas" on a 10-15min rotation!
> : to improve TSL.
>
>
> Np. Got $20k?
>
>
> : Didn't 4BC do hot country about 1993.
>
>
> <scratches> .. did they?

I remember the big billboards with 4BC Brisbane Country around the city.

Regards,

Shaun S Brisbane.

>
> : 4AAA now plays a range of country.
>
>
> But does anybody aside from a diehard few -know-
> about it?
>
>
>
> : --
> : |||||||||||||||||||||||||| PIBC > :
> :
> :
> :
>
>


From: dav259@no-spam (Ian D)
Subject: Re: 4BH
Date: 30 Jun 2003 22:59:39 -0700

"Paul in Melbourne" <pn1@no-spam> wrote in message news:<P42La.15$l83.620@no-spam>...

> From what I heard listening to 4BH when I was in Brisbane in March, their > current format was more like 3MP or the Southern Cross easy listening > network than Magic 693.

I was up there in March and agree 4BH was OK but sounds much more like 3MP (in better days) than Magic 693.

> But as one poster commented - "if it ain't broke why fix it"?

I think 4BH's rating could be alot better by following Magic's format.
At the moment it's thrashed by 4KQ in the 40 - 54 agegroup. Yet in the 55+ group it only draws with 4KQ.

Magic commenced in 1994 with the slogan "Unforgettable Memories of the 40s, 50s, and 60s". In only nine years it's skewed more towards the 60s and 70s, with several later hits that fit the format - and still plenty from the 40s and 50s. And it's a huge variety of hits over a long period.

I reckon 4BH should give the Magic format a go - and try and woo the 55+ market. It should be called Magic 4BH and remain totally live and local - benefitting from the Southern Cross News and providing plenty of traffic reports, local community announcements, and live announcer chit chat.

Magic 693 has evolved from nothing (the ashes of Me-Too-3XY) to become a consistent performer and money-maker - consistently beating Mix-FM.

It also rates higher than 4BH in a market with a third more (rated)
stations.

Southern Cross would be mad not to give it a go. But no networking!! It's gotta be live and local - and could well need some Brisbane tweaking.

> It is interesting to note the different rating figures for 3MP and 4BH when > both seem to be following a similar format. Could it be that much is 3MP is > recorded (and sounds like it) whereas Magic 693 and 4BH do sound "live"?

Very much so!!

Ian

From: "Paul Melville Austin" (paul.austin@no-spam)
Subject: Re: 4BH
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 16:35:52 +1000

Ian could you _stop_ repeating the stupid and false "Me too 3XY" please -
3XY was a good station thats why it was successful for so long

From: "Wombat Lover" (Womba@no-spam)
Subject: Re: 4BH
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 18:20:43 +1000

Whats the bet its gonna be "Magic 882" ? soon to be a www.magic882.com.au ??

Also noticed Magic 693 has 2 URLS. www.magic693.com and www.magic693.com.au , I wonder why?

-- From Robert | Wombat Lover | Melbourne | http://www.surfnetvic.cjb.net |


From: dav259@no-spam (Ian D)
Subject: Re: 4BH
Date: 1 Jul 2003 02:34:43 -0700

"Paul Melville Austin" <paul.austin@no-spam> wrote in message news:<3f012bf5$0$31279$afc38c87@no-spam>...


> Ian could you _stop_ repeating the stupid and false "Me too 3XY" please -
> 3XY was a good station thats why it was successful for so long
Sorry Paul. I'm the same vintage as the other Paul ... and when 3XY was King you either loved it or hated it. I hated it!

But you've gotta admit it did knock off 3AK's "Where No Wrinklies Fly"
format to bring 3AK down ... and it worked - halving both audiences and 3AK bit the bullet and introduced "Beautiful (elevator) Music".

3XY was King for nearly 10 years - but it was only by doing a me-too. The industry at the time called it for what it was.

I'm on a few OS lists and have made "Me too 3XY" a new international expression.
They like it better than "bonza"!

Thankfully the 1422 3XY callsign still lives as Radio Hellas.

I promise not to mention it again here for at least three months. Still ... I've never called it 3-EX-WOY like many did at the time.

Hey - in the late fifties I can remember my old man dragging his self made extension speaker with the infinitely long cord all over the back and front yards on weekends - listening to 3XY's Uncle Doug Elliot presenting "The Champagne of Music". Now THAT was classy radio!


From: "Paul in Melbourne" (pn1@no-spam)
Subject: 3XY in the 1950s
Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2003 11:10:22 GMT

There has been very little written about 3XY in the 1950s; my earlier memories are the breakfast session presented by Craig Kelly. There was a marching segment at 6.45 am.
Probably in the Douglas Elliott era.
That was "3XY - Victoria's only 24 hour station"
Do any readers have memories of 3XY in the 1950s?
Paul in Melbourne
"Ian D" <dav259@no-spam> wrote in message news:11cc9bef.0307010134.281db7b1@no-spam > "Paul Melville Austin" <paul.austin@no-spam> wrote in message news:<3f012bf5$0$31279$afc38c87@no-spam>...
>
> > Ian could you _stop_ repeating the stupid and false "Me too 3XY"
please -
> > 3XY was a good station thats why it was successful for so long >
> Sorry Paul. I'm the same vintage as the other Paul ... and when 3XY > was King you either loved it or hated it. I hated it!
>
> But you've gotta admit it did knock off 3AK's "Where No Wrinklies Fly"
> format to bring 3AK down ... and it worked - halving both audiences > and 3AK bit the bullet and introduced "Beautiful (elevator) Music".
>
> 3XY was King for nearly 10 years - but it was only by doing a me-too.
> The industry at the time called it for what it was.
>
> I'm on a few OS lists and have made "Me too 3XY" a new international > expression.
> They like it better than "bonza"!
>
> Thankfully the 1422 3XY callsign still lives as Radio Hellas.
>
> I promise not to mention it again here for at least three months.
> Still ... I've never called it 3-EX-WOY like many did at the time.
>
> Hey - in the late fifties I can remember my old man dragging his self > made extension speaker with the infinitely long cord all over the back > and front yards on weekends - listening to 3XY's Uncle Doug Elliot > presenting "The Champagne of Music". Now THAT was classy radio!


From: "Andrew Bayley" (SPAM?NOTHANKYOUabaus2@no-spam)
Subject: Re: 4BH
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 23:42:27 +1000

> I'm on a few OS lists and have made "Me too 3XY" a new international > expression.
> They like it better than "bonza"!

> Thankfully the 1422 3XY callsign still lives as Radio Hellas.

thankfully nothing... i'd prefer "1422 3XY" be dead and buried rather than have it adopted by a two bit station that has no link at all to 3XY's format or heritage (except for the frequency) and now associating the once legendary callsign to a station that doesn't do any justice to what was a great identity in Melbourne radio.


From: andykhot100@no-spam (Andy Kroeger)
Subject: Re: 3XY in the 1950s
Date: 1 Jul 2003 16:01:00 -0700

I've just read the Graeme Blundell book about Graham Kennedy Lots of mentions about radio in Melb in the 50s: the personalities like Bert Newton and Nikky Whitta As Molly used to say:"do yourself a favour"


From: spottylamond@no-spam (Programmer)
Subject: Re: 4BH
Date: 1 Jul 2003 21:07:20 -0700

"Wombat Lover" <Womba@no-spam> wrote in message news:<3f014462_1@no-spam>...
> Whats the bet its gonna be "Magic 882" ? soon to be a www.magic882.com.au ??
> > Also noticed Magic 693 has 2 URLS. www.magic693.com and www.magic693.com.au > , I wonder why?

I do note that someone has the trademark on Magic. Even though this trademark is for Magic FM, I still can't see how another station can just open up as a "Magic" whilst the trademark is owned by another company. Southern Cross won't be allowed to do it, unless they want to buy the rights, I guess?

Regards to all Programmer

From: "Wombat Lover" (Womba@no-spam)
Subject: Re: 3XY in the 1950s
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 18:44:52 +1000

ABA lists all narrowcasts with no callsign, so can they really call themselves 3XY on air in a Greek fashion? no trademarks been broken?

-- From Robert | Wombat Lover | Melbourne | http://www.surfnetvic.cjb.net |


From: "Andrew Bayley" (SPAM?NOTHANKYOUabaus2@no-spam)
Subject: Re: 3XY in the 1950s
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 23:09:59 +1000

"Wombat Lover" <Womba@no-spam> wrote in message news:3f03ed06$1_1@no-spam > ABA lists all narrowcasts with no callsign, so can they really call > themselves 3XY on air in a Greek fashion? no trademarks been broken?

nobody's suggesting that Radio Hellas are breaking any trademarks... AFAIK regardless of what the ABA has registered, the station can legally use any name they like on-air as long as nobody else owns it... but it's just that their use of the 3XY name does no justice to the original station of the same name.


From: "Andrew Bayley" (SPAM?NOTHANKYOUabaus2@no-spam)
Subject: Re: 3XY in the 1950s
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 23:22:19 +1000

> It returned as 3EE 'the Breeze' 693 in 1992
> with a hybrid talk/music format and in 1994 with new owners (Southern Cross > Broadcasting) it became "Magic 693 - Unforgettable Songs of the 40s, 50s &
> 60s".

I just realised this might be incorrect... I think 3EE was still owned by the Wesgo group (or whatever it may have been called by then) when it relaunched as Magic 693.. the new station launched after the ABA put a stop to 3MP simulcasting the same program on both 1377 (3MP) and 693 (3EE)
positions on the dial and forcing Wesgo to launch the separate format on 3EE. I now think Southern Cross bought out the 3MP/3EE stations a few years after 1994, does anyone remember?


From: dav259@no-spam (Ian D)
Subject: Re: 3XY in the 1950s
Date: 3 Jul 2003 17:39:31 -0700

"Andrew Bayley" <SPAM?NOTHANKYOUabaus2@no-spam> wrote in message news:<3f042e26$0$30817$afc38c87@no-spam>...

> > I just realised this might be incorrect... I think 3EE was still owned by > the Wesgo group (or whatever it may have been called by then) when it > relaunched as Magic 693.. the new station launched after the ABA put a stop > to 3MP simulcasting the same program on both 1377 (3MP) and 693 (3EE)
> positions on the dial and forcing Wesgo to launch the separate format on > 3EE. I now think Southern Cross bought out the 3MP/3EE stations a few years > after 1994, does anyone remember?

Correct Andrew.

Westgo ran 3MP and Magic 693 successfully for a few years and I think bought 3KZZ (Gold 104) so had to divest one of it's AM stations. I think it then was swallowed (merged?) by the ARN and also got TT-FM in the process so had to get rid of both stations.

Southern Cross shrewdly wanted Magic - so bought both stations - so that they then had to divest two stations - 3AK and 3MP.

I can remember thinking when Westgo bought 104.3 which of Magic or 3MP would go to the FM band. Had it been 3MP they'd be rating much better than now.

Still Gold-FM is doing OK.