On Wed, 25 Jun 2003 22:18:40 GMT, "Dolf Boek" <dolf_boek@no-spam>
wrote:
>"Bill Ramsay" <bill.ramsay@no-spam> wrote in message
>news:hdhjfvs825vmk7s1iaqt238butl7k6l2jj@no-spam
>sorry I cannot resist this, pity I never mentioned my supposed
>anti-semitism at my friends daughters bat-mitzvah in the synagogue a few
>months ago, Dolf, as i have said in the past you are a raving loon who
>vaults preposterous assumptions, and when asked to make a simple point ,
>refrains from doing so, and instead issues forth vast tirades of drivel.
>[snipped for context]
>
>DOLF BOEK RESPONDS:
>I can't see the need to ever hear from you again!
>
and as i said before, you talk the biggest load of shite, that i
have ever come across, why this diatribe? are you unhinged? yoiu
condescending obscenity
>As I said before, depending on whether you possess sufficient intellect to
>refrain from further comment as sensualisms, there shouldn't be any need to
>be hearing any further comments as anti-Semitic SPAM from you!
>
>It is the heart and that conveys whether one has a love for God's covenant
>people or not--but it is the sensual and unbriddled tongue which betrays the
>soul and shows you to be anti-semitic: "Even so the tongue is a little
>member, and boasteth great things. Behold, how great a matter a little fire
>kindleth! And the tongue is a fire, a world of iniquity: so is the tongue
>among our members, that it defileth the whole body, and setteth on fire the
>course of nature; and it is set on fire of hell. For every kind of beasts,
>and of birds, and of serpents, and of things in the sea, is tamed, and hath
>been tamed of mankind:
>
>But the tongue can no man tame; it is an unruly evil, full of deadly poison.
>Therewith bless we God, even the Father; and therewith curse we men, which
>are made after the similitude of God. 10Out of the same mouth proceedeth
>blessing and cursing. My brethren, these things ought not so to be. Doth a
>fountain send forth at the same place sweet water and bitter? Can the fig
>tree, my brethren, bear olive berries? either a vine, figs? so can no
>fountain both yield salt water and fresh. Who is a wise man and endued with
>knowledge among you? let him show out of a good conversation his works with
>meekness of wisdom." [James 3:5-13]
>
>As Rabbi Shimon Finkleman/Rabbi Yitzchak Berkowitz convey in their
>www.torah.org reflections titled "LONG RANGE MISSLES"
>
>The danger of a weapon in the hands of an enemy is measured not only by the
>destructive power of its impact but also by its range. A missile that can
>travel long distances is far more dangerous than a tank or bazooka. In
>interpersonal relationships the effect of an insult or emotional hurt also
>has a range.
>
>Words have the power to inflict great pain and suffering and their long
>distance capabilities certainly require caution on the part of all who use
>these potent weapons of mass destruction. The laws of lashon ha ra -
>forbidden, harmful speech - arouse a sense of caution and sensitivity in a
>person to guard one's tongue and to dole out words with cautious
>stinginess. It is not only the long distance that is dangerous but also the
>long-term effects of verbal damage that make this type of transgression so
>serious. One should always consider the long-lasting effects of any
>statement before launching potent words from one's mouth.
>
>Holding back a feisty, slippery creature like the human tongue is a
>difficult task to say the least. One good way to develop word control is to
>improve your eye. Look for the good in everything around you. A person who
>sees beauty in nature, appreciates art and music and enjoys the talents and
>the quirks of friends and relatives may not be able to control his or her
>tongue but will speak his or her mind -- with a positive view whenever
>expressing inner thoughts. The verse in Tehillim says: "Who is the man who
>seeks life, loves days to see good-- guard your tongue from evil..." In
>order to guard your tongue --you must see good. There is so much that is
>positive in G-d's creation and in the people around you. Look for it and
>you will find it. Focus on it and teach your tongue to speak good.
>
>DID YOU KNOW THAT
>
>When one leaves a rest room after relieving oneself one must recite the
>blessing "Asher Yasar" -- "Who formed the Human being..." --because the
>creation of the human being is a wondrous accomplishment that requires
>thankful acknowledgment.
>
>The container - the body - is full of air and has many openings yet it
>still holds the air inside. It is made up of so many complex organs that
>contribute to the proper balance and functioning of the whole. We thank
>Hashem that it all functions constantly -- for were any opening to seal up
>or any closed organ to puncture it would not be possible to continue to
>live.
>
>[Source: Shulhan Arukh, o'h, siman 6]
>
>CONSIDER THIS FOR A MINUTE
>
>The gossiper looks over his shoulder to make sure that his target is not
>listening. Why isn't he worried that Hashem is listening?" [
>http://www.torah.org/learning/reflections/classes/reflection-12.html ]
>
>- dolf
>http://www.users.bigpond.net.au/telos/kabbalah/patent.html
>
>"Bill Ramsay" <bill.ramsay@no-spam> wrote in message
>news:hdhjfvs825vmk7s1iaqt238butl7k6l2jj@no-spam
>
>[snipped for context]
>
>In reference to your riposte below;
>
>sensualism = Excessive devotion to sensual pleasure; sensuality, pray
>tell, the sensuality in anything done to date in this thread?
>
>spam = Unsolicited e-mail, often of a commercial nature, sent
>indiscriminately to multiple mailing lists, individuals, or
>newsgroups; junk e-mail; i sent no spam, i just responded to your
>post, nothing more nothing less.
>
>or is the use of these two words just another example of you frothing
>at the mouth?
>
>kind regards
>
>Bill Ramsay
>
>"Bill Ramsay" <bill.ramsay@no-spam> wrote in message
>news:cm1jfv03rkgbc55fcenpo5jcvthaimn8mn@no-spam
>On Wed, 25 Jun 2003 20:19:14 +1000, "Rowland Croucher"
><rcroucher@no-spam> wrote:
>
>>Bill, my friend, your time's too important to waste eh?
>
>
>yeah, i think so,
>
>
Your conduct is in breach of the most basic of Hebrew and Christian (as
James {that supplants, undermines; the heel} presumably the author of the
new Covenant era Biblical text was Jewish) principles concerning laws of
lashon hara as forbidden, harmful speech and you may be considered a
Reprobate {ie. abandoned by YAHWEH}.
"'Look, traitors, and see, and be shocked--amazed--for the Lord is doing
something in your time that you would not believe it if told.' [Habakkuk
1:5; Acts 13:38-42] This passage refers to the traitors with the Man of the
Lie {Philo of Alexandria's (20 BCE-50 AD) metaphysical view of the Decalogue
as rather resembling the 'Heads of Laws' made use of the Pythagorean
Chaldean Occulted use of Number and the Tetragrammation of YHWH as [72J] +
3(3²+1) /2 = [72J2W1D] being 457BCE}, because they have not obeyed the words
of the Teacher of Righteousness {ie. The Hebrew/Christian Apostle Paul [Acts
28:17-31]} from the mouth of God. It also refers to the traitors to the New
Covenant, because they did not believe in God's covenant and desecrated His
holy name; and finally, it also refers to the traitors in the Last Days.
They are the cruel Israelites who will not believe when they hear everything
that is to come upon the latter generation that will be spoken by the Priest
in whose heart God has put the ability to explain all the words of His
servants the prophets, through whom God has foretold everything that is to
come upon His people and His land." [1QpHab Col. 1.16-Col. 2.10]
There appears no further rational basis for your participation on religious
newsgroups.
- dolf
"Bill Ramsay" <bill.ramsay@no-spam> wrote in message
news:631lfvgupanepf8g6uo4nftoj3htvv5b6o@no-spam
and as i said before, you talk the biggest load of shite, that i
have ever come across, why this diatribe? are you unhinged? yoiu
condescending obscenity
DOLF NOTE:
"Bill Ramsay" <bill.ramsay@no-spam> wrote in message
news:hdhjfvs825vmk7s1iaqt238butl7k6l2jj@no-spam
sorry I cannot resist this, pity I never mentioned my supposed
anti-semitism at my friends daughters bat-mitzvah in the synagogue a few
months ago, Dolf, as i have said in the past you are a raving loon who
vaults preposterous assumptions, and when asked to make a simple point ,
refrains from doing so, and instead issues forth vast tirades of drivel.
[snipped for context]
DOLF BOEK RESPONDS:
I can't see the need to ever hear from you again!
As I said before, depending on whether you possess sufficient intellect to
refrain from further comment as sensualisms, there shouldn't be any need to
be hearing any further comments as anti-Semitic SPAM from you!
It is the heart and that conveys whether one has a love for God's covenant
people or not--but it is the sensual and unbriddled tongue which betrays the
soul and shows you to be anti-semitic: "Even so the tongue is a little
member, and boasteth great things. Behold, how great a matter a little fire
kindleth! And the tongue is a fire, a world of iniquity: so is the tongue
among our members, that it defileth the whole body, and setteth on fire the
course of nature; and it is set on fire of hell. For every kind of beasts,
and of birds, and of serpents, and of things in the sea, is tamed, and hath
been tamed of mankind:
But the tongue can no man tame; it is an unruly evil, full of deadly poison.
Therewith bless we God, even the Father; and therewith curse we men, which
are made after the similitude of God. 10Out of the same mouth proceedeth
blessing and cursing. My brethren, these things ought not so to be. Doth a
fountain send forth at the same place sweet water and bitter? Can the fig
tree, my brethren, bear olive berries? either a vine, figs? so can no
fountain both yield salt water and fresh. Who is a wise man and endued with
knowledge among you? let him show out of a good conversation his works with
meekness of wisdom." [James 3:5-13]
As Rabbi Shimon Finkleman/Rabbi Yitzchak Berkowitz convey in their
www.torah.org reflections titled "LONG RANGE MISSILES"
The danger of a weapon in the hands of an enemy is measured not only by the
destructive power of its impact but also by its range. A missile that can
travel long distances is far more dangerous than a tank or bazooka. In
interpersonal relationships the effect of an insult or emotional hurt also
has a range.
Words have the power to inflict great pain and suffering and their long
distance capabilities certainly require caution on the part of all who use
these potent weapons of mass destruction. The laws of lashon ha ra -
forbidden, harmful speech - arouse a sense of caution and sensitivity in a
person to guard one's tongue and to dole out words with cautious
stinginess. It is not only the long distance that is dangerous but also the
long-term effects of verbal damage that make this type of transgression so
serious. One should always consider the long-lasting effects of any
statement before launching potent words from one's mouth.
Holding back a feisty, slippery creature like the human tongue is a
difficult task to say the least. One good way to develop word control is to
improve your eye. Look for the good in everything around you. A person who
sees beauty in nature, appreciates art and music and enjoys the talents and
the quirks of friends and relatives may not be able to control his or her
tongue but will speak his or her mind -- with a positive view whenever
expressing inner thoughts. The verse in Tehillim says: "Who is the man who
seeks life, loves days to see good-- guard your tongue from evil..." In
order to guard your tongue --you must see good. There is so much that is
positive in G-d's creation and in the people around you. Look for it and
you will find it. Focus on it and teach your tongue to speak good.
DID YOU KNOW THAT
When one leaves a rest room after relieving oneself one must recite the
blessing "Asher Yasar" -- "Who formed the Human being..." --because the
creation of the human being is a wondrous accomplishment that requires
thankful acknowledgment.
The container - the body - is full of air and has many openings yet it
still holds the air inside. It is made up of so many complex organs that
contribute to the proper balance and functioning of the whole. We thank
Hashem that it all functions constantly -- for were any opening to seal up
or any closed organ to puncture it would not be possible to continue to
live.
[Source: Shulhan Arukh, o'h, siman 6]
CONSIDER THIS FOR A MINUTE
The gossiper looks over his shoulder to make sure that his target is not
listening. Why isn't he worried that Hashem is listening?" [
http://www.torah.org/learning/reflections/classes/reflection-12.html ]
- dolf
http://www.users.bigpond.net.au/telos/kabbalah/patent.html
"Bill Ramsay" <bill.ramsay@no-spam> wrote in message
news:hdhjfvs825vmk7s1iaqt238butl7k6l2jj@no-spam
[snipped for context]
In reference to your riposte below;
sensualism = Excessive devotion to sensual pleasure; sensuality, pray
tell, the sensuality in anything done to date in this thread?
spam = Unsolicited e-mail, often of a commercial nature, sent
indiscriminately to multiple mailing lists, individuals, or
newsgroups; junk e-mail; i sent no spam, i just responded to your
post, nothing more nothing less.
or is the use of these two words just another example of you frothing
at the mouth?
kind regards
Bill Ramsay
"Bill Ramsay" <bill.ramsay@no-spam> wrote in message
news:cm1jfv03rkgbc55fcenpo5jcvthaimn8mn@no-spam
On Wed, 25 Jun 2003 20:19:14 +1000, "Rowland Croucher"
<rcroucher@no-spam> wrote:
>Bill, my friend, your time's too important to waste eh?
yeah, i think so,