AUS RELIGION CHRISTIAN 29 RE SELLING BIBLES
From: "Qolon" (telos@no-spam)
Subject: Re: Selling Bibles :-)
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 02:41:55 GMT


Were it not for cultural sensitivies {fumigation is out of the question},
I'm not sure the Synagogue would have been happy having their sacred space desecrated by your presence.

As you and I share no-common ground regarding your claim to a religious life, I anticipate that this will probably be one of the last messages I will receive publicly from you, desire to receive or have necessity to receive.

- Qolon http://www.users.bigpond.net.au/telos/kabbalah/patent.html
"Bill Ramsay" <bill.ramsay@no-spam> wrote in message news:us9nfvcolqlpsr6anjl0u7sc8ro6tmr4ot@no-spam
dolf,

i do not think of myself as holy, neither do i believe in your god,
nor his grace either. If he does exist, then he would be seen as cruel and capricious.

what does this gibberish that you posted below actually mean?

and what is this sly comment supposed to mean? I don;t know Rowland from a hole in ground, unlike the hole in your head.

bill ramsay
QOLON NOTES:
I'm responding only for the benefit of others, to point out that you think yourself HOLY when your conception of God's grace is indeed cruel,
judgmental and a deification of death: "And it will come to pass in that time that Tyre {strength; rock; sharp} will be rejected for 70 years, like the days of one king. At the end of seventy years, it will happen to Tyre as a harlot's song: 'Your glory has been overthrown, cast out o a province,
the city that was as a harlot is rejected! Turn your harp to lamentation and your music to keening, that you might be remembered.'

And it will come to pass at the end of seventy years that the rememberance of Tyre will come before the LORD {YAHWEH} and she will return to her place and supply business to all the kingdoms of the people which are on the face of the earth. And her business and her profit will be holy before the LORD;
it will not be stored or hoarded, but her profit will be for those who minister before the LORD, to eat to satiety and for clothing of glory." [©
1990 The Order of Saint Benedict, Aramaic Targum of Isaiah 23:15-18]

I've been meaning to point out what seems to be the nature of your friendship relationship with "Rowland Croucher"
<rcroucher@no-spam> who said, "Bill, my friend, your time's too important to waste eh?" [Wed, 25 Jun 2003 20:19:14 +1000 ]

To which "Bill Ramsay" <bill.ramsay@no-spam> replied, "yeah, i think so."

Is Rowland Croucher a liar, a sacred prostitute who SPAMS contrived and emotionally manipulative stories as his own claim to Christian belief in message news:3efa3038$0$30822$afc38c87@no-spam
Google.com provides some variations on the "Twenty years ago, I drove a cab for a living" which appears to relate to a cowboy's life.

"Twenty years ago, I drove a cab for a living. It was a cowboy's life, a life for someone who wanted no boss. What I didn't realize was that it was also a ministry. Because I drove the night shift, my cab became a moving confessional. Passengers climbed in, sat behind me in total anonymity, and told me about their lives. I encountered people whose lives amazed me,
ennobled me, made me laugh and weep. But none touched me more than a woman I picked up late one August night." [
http://puebloadvocacy.com/jane/taxi.htm ]

It is not also written, "Know ye not that your bodies are the members of Christ? shall I then take the members of Christ, and make them the members {ie. the tongue is a fire, a world of iniquity: so is the tongue among our members, that it defileth the whole body, and setteth on fire the course of nature; and it is set on fire of hell [James 3-5-13} of an harlot?
God forbid. What? know ye not that he which is joined to an harlot is one body? for two, saith he, shall be one flesh. But he that is joined unto the Lord is one spirit. Flee fornication {ie the practice of idolatry). Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body. [1 Corinthians 6:15-18]

"Bill Ramsay" <bill.ramsay@no-spam> wrote in message news:5n8lfvg9dv5gq6l8opqmljr86dapduo7ss@no-spam ha ha ha, pot, kettle, black, verbal incontinence continues
QOLON NOTES:
Your conduct is in breach of the most basic of Hebrew and Christian (as James {that supplants, undermines; the heel} presumably the author of the new Covenant era Biblical text was Jewish) principles concerning laws of lashon hara as forbidden, harmful speech and you may be considered a Reprobate {ie. abandoned by YAHWEH}.

"'Look, traitors, and see, and be shocked--amazed--for the Lord is doing something in your time that you would not believe it if told.' [Habakkuk 1:5; Acts 13:38-42] This passage refers to the traitors with the Man of the Lie {Philo of Alexandria's (20 BCE-50 AD) metaphysical view of the Decalogue as rather resembling the 'Heads of Laws' made use of the Pythagorean Chaldean Occulted use of Number and the Tetragrammation of YHWH as [72J] +
3(3²+1) /2 = [72J2W1D] being 457BCE}, because they have not obeyed the words of the Teacher of Righteousness {ie. The Hebrew/Christian Apostle Paul [Acts 28:17-31]} from the mouth of God. It also refers to the traitors to the New Covenant, because they did not believe in God's covenant and desecrated His holy name; and finally, it also refers to the traitors in the Last Days.

They are the cruel Israelites who will not believe when they hear everything that is to come upon the latter generation that will be spoken by the Priest in whose heart God has put the ability to explain all the words of His servants the prophets, through whom God has foretold everything that is to come upon His people and His land." [1QpHab Col. 1.16-Col. 2.10]

There appears no further rational basis for your participation on religious newsgroups.

"Bill Ramsay" <bill.ramsay@no-spam> wrote in message news:631lfvgupanepf8g6uo4nftoj3htvv5b6o@no-spam and as i said before, you talk the biggest load of shite, that i have ever come across, why this diatribe? are you unhinged? yoiu condescending obscenity
"Bill Ramsay" <bill.ramsay@no-spam> wrote in message news:hdhjfvs825vmk7s1iaqt238butl7k6l2jj@no-spam sorry I cannot resist this, pity I never mentioned my supposed anti-semitism at my friends daughters bat-mitzvah in the synagogue a few months ago, Dolf, as i have said in the past you are a raving loon who vaults preposterous assumptions, and when asked to make a simple point ,
refrains from doing so, and instead issues forth vast tirades of drivel.
[snipped for context]

QOLON NOTES:
I can't see the need to ever hear from you again!

As I said before, depending on whether you possess sufficient intellect to refrain from further comment as sensualisms, there shouldn't be any need to be hearing any further comments as anti-Semitic SPAM from you!

It is the heart and that conveys whether one has a love for God's covenant people or not--but it is the sensual and unbriddled tongue which betrays the soul and shows you to be anti-semitic: "Even so the tongue is a little member, and boasteth great things. Behold, how great a matter a little fire kindleth! And the tongue is a fire, a world of iniquity: so is the tongue among our members, that it defileth the whole body, and setteth on fire the course of nature; and it is set on fire of hell. For every kind of beasts,
and of birds, and of serpents, and of things in the sea, is tamed, and hath been tamed of mankind:

But the tongue can no man tame; it is an unruly evil, full of deadly poison.
Therewith bless we God, even the Father; and therewith curse we men, which are made after the similitude of God. 10Out of the same mouth proceedeth blessing and cursing. My brethren, these things ought not so to be. Doth a fountain send forth at the same place sweet water and bitter? Can the fig tree, my brethren, bear olive berries? either a vine, figs? so can no fountain both yield salt water and fresh. Who is a wise man and endued with knowledge among you? let him show out of a good conversation his works with meekness of wisdom." [James 3:5-13]

As Rabbi Shimon Finkleman/Rabbi Yitzchak Berkowitz convey in their www.torah.org reflections titled "LONG RANGE MISSILES"

The danger of a weapon in the hands of an enemy is measured not only by the destructive power of its impact but also by its range. A missile that can travel long distances is far more dangerous than a tank or bazooka. In interpersonal relationships the effect of an insult or emotional hurt also has a range.

Words have the power to inflict great pain and suffering and their long distance capabilities certainly require caution on the part of all who use these potent weapons of mass destruction. The laws of lashon ha ra -
forbidden, harmful speech - arouse a sense of caution and sensitivity in a person to guard one's tongue and to dole out words with cautious stinginess. It is not only the long distance that is dangerous but also the long-term effects of verbal damage that make this type of transgression so serious. One should always consider the long-lasting effects of any statement before launching potent words from one's mouth.

Holding back a feisty, slippery creature like the human tongue is a difficult task to say the least. One good way to develop word control is to improve your eye. Look for the good in everything around you. A person who sees beauty in nature, appreciates art and music and enjoys the talents and the quirks of friends and relatives may not be able to control his or her tongue but will speak his or her mind -- with a positive view whenever expressing inner thoughts. The verse in Tehillim says: "Who is the man who seeks life, loves days to see good-- guard your tongue from evil..." In order to guard your tongue --you must see good. There is so much that is positive in G-d's creation and in the people around you. Look for it and you will find it. Focus on it and teach your tongue to speak good.

DID YOU KNOW THAT
When one leaves a rest room after relieving oneself one must recite the blessing "Asher Yasar" -- "Who formed the Human being..." --because the creation of the human being is a wondrous accomplishment that requires thankful acknowledgment.

The container - the body - is full of air and has many openings yet it still holds the air inside. It is made up of so many complex organs that contribute to the proper balance and functioning of the whole. We thank Hashem that it all functions constantly -- for were any opening to seal up or any closed organ to puncture it would not be possible to continue to live.

[Source: Shulhan Arukh, o'h, siman 6]

CONSIDER THIS FOR A MINUTE
The gossiper looks over his shoulder to make sure that his target is not listening. Why isn't he worried that Hashem is listening?" [
http://www.torah.org/learning/reflections/classes/reflection-12.html ]

- dolf http://www.users.bigpond.net.au/telos/kabbalah/patent.html
"Bill Ramsay" <bill.ramsay@no-spam> wrote in message news:hdhjfvs825vmk7s1iaqt238butl7k6l2jj@no-spam
[snipped for context]

In reference to your riposte below;

sensualism = Excessive devotion to sensual pleasure; sensuality, pray tell, the sensuality in anything done to date in this thread?

spam = Unsolicited e-mail, often of a commercial nature, sent indiscriminately to multiple mailing lists, individuals, or newsgroups; junk e-mail; i sent no spam, i just responded to your post, nothing more nothing less.

or is the use of these two words just another example of you frothing at the mouth?

kind regards
Bill Ramsay