AUS TV 39 RE HAVES AND HAVE NOTS
From: "Craig Taylor" (cujo@no-spam)
Subject: Re: Haves and Have Nots
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 21:22:27 +0800


"M.a.H.TT.E.w" <bloomsbury> wrote in message news:r26lfv8re8db3942435pl8edl4ihc00kus@no-spam > On 26 Jun 2003 04:29:17 GMT, Vicki Whyte > <vickiwhyteusenet@no-spam> wrote:
>
> The haves should tell Big Broher to fuck off and to stick the task up > his arse.
> It is un Australian to make people suffer.
> What ever happened to all for one and one for all?

un Australian...

Did you do any history at school? Australia was founded on making people suffer...









From: M.a.H.TT.E.w (bloomsbury)
Subject: Re: Haves and Have Nots
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 09:30:18 +1000

On Thu, 26 Jun 2003 21:22:27 +0800, "Craig Taylor"
<cujo@no-spam> wrote:

>
>"M.a.H.TT.E.w" <bloomsbury> wrote in message >news:r26lfv8re8db3942435pl8edl4ihc00kus@no-spam >> On 26 Jun 2003 04:29:17 GMT, Vicki Whyte >> <vickiwhyteusenet@no-spam> wrote:
>>
>> The haves should tell Big Broher to fuck off and to stick the task up >> his arse.
>> It is un Australian to make people suffer.
>> What ever happened to all for one and one for all?
>
>un Australian...
>
>Did you do any history at school? Australia was founded on making people >suffer...
>

Not in my state

From: "amit" (pparp316@no-spam)
Subject: Re: Haves and Have Nots
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 07:45:28 +0800

"M.a.H.TT.E.w" <bloomsbury> wrote
> The haves should tell Big Broher to fuck off and to stick the task up > his arse.

This would be pretty awesome, revealing of actual character etc. tho' it might also be kinda boring, since BB'd probably just respond by starving the housemates, Survivor-style.

> It is un Australian to make people suffer.

Please don't say "unAustralian". It makes you sound like a jackass.

> What ever happened to all for one and one for all?

John-fucking-Howard.

amit.


From: M.a.H.TT.E.w (bloomsbury)
Subject: Re: Haves and Have Nots
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 10:35:09 +1000

On Fri, 27 Jun 2003 00:09:00 GMT, "Trevor Gensch"
<trevorgensch@no-spam> wrote:

>> >
>> >Did you do any history at school? Australia was founded on making people >> >suffer...
>>
>> Not in my state >
>Your closed mind certainly has an incredibly strong spring on the door.

South Australia was settled with free people.
Unlike QLD and NSW

From: zaphy (zaphy79spamoff@no-spam)
Subject: Re: Haves and Have Nots
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 10:39:18 +1000

On Fri, 27 Jun 2003 09:30:18 +1000, M.a.H.TT.E.w <bloomsbury>
regurgitated:
>Not in my state
Big Brother isn't taking place in your state.

-- zaphy

From: "Trevor Gensch" (trevorgensch@no-spam)
Subject: Re: Haves and Have Nots
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 00:55:17 GMT

"M.a.H.TT.E.w" <bloomsbury> wrote in message news:c94nfvkf6mt08aq1q5g93tbuloc6hgnr9l@no-spam > On Fri, 27 Jun 2003 00:09:00 GMT, "Trevor Gensch"
> <trevorgensch@no-spam> wrote:
>
> >> >
> >> >Did you do any history at school? Australia was founded on making people > >> >suffer...
> >>
> >> Not in my state > >
> >Your closed mind certainly has an incredibly strong spring on the door.
>
> South Australia was settled with free people.
> Unlike QLD and NSW
Wrong. NSW and Qld had plenty of free settlers - they were just sharing their land with convicts.

And the OP said Australia, not SA.

--
Trev.

"Procrastinate Now"


From: M.a.H.TT.E.w (bloomsbury)
Subject: Re: Haves and Have Nots
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 11:12:26 +1000

On Fri, 27 Jun 2003 10:39:18 +1000, zaphy <zaphy79spamoff@no-spam>
wrote:

>On Fri, 27 Jun 2003 09:30:18 +1000, M.a.H.TT.E.w <bloomsbury>
>regurgitated: >
>>Not in my state >
>Big Brother isn't taking place in your state.

Irrelevant to my answer.


From: M.a.H.TT.E.w (bloomsbury)
Subject: Re: Haves and Have Nots
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 11:17:02 +1000

On Fri, 27 Jun 2003 00:55:17 GMT, "Trevor Gensch"
<trevorgensch@no-spam> wrote:

>Wrong. NSW and Qld had plenty of free settlers - they were just sharing >their land with convicts.
Bah.
Still had convicts.

>
>And the OP said Australia, not SA.

Well, the statement is still wrong.
It was only " parts" of australia.


Subject: Re: Haves and Have Nots
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 09:26:22 +0800

From: Guvnor (munmag@no-spam)
In article <3efaf39e$0$20745@no-spam>, Craig Taylor <cujo@no-spam> wrote:

> "M.a.H.TT.E.w" <bloomsbury> wrote in message > news:r26lfv8re8db3942435pl8edl4ihc00kus@no-spam > > On 26 Jun 2003 04:29:17 GMT, Vicki Whyte > > <vickiwhyteusenet@no-spam> wrote:
> >
> > The haves should tell Big Broher to fuck off and to stick the task up > > his arse.
> > It is un Australian to make people suffer.
> > What ever happened to all for one and one for all?
> > un Australian...
> > Did you do any history at school? Australia was founded on making people > suffer...
> > Not for entertainment purposes!


From: "Trevor Gensch" (trevorgensch@no-spam)
Subject: Re: Haves and Have Nots
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 01:29:20 GMT

"M.a.H.TT.E.w" <bloomsbury> wrote in message news:1n6nfvkjnr6rngrkl4c96gllq3t7851srb@no-spam > On Fri, 27 Jun 2003 00:55:17 GMT, "Trevor Gensch"
> <trevorgensch@no-spam> wrote:
>
> >Wrong. NSW and Qld had plenty of free settlers - they were just sharing > >their land with convicts.
> Bah.
> Still had convicts.

Yes, so that still invalidates your statement.

>
> >
> >And the OP said Australia, not SA.
>
> Well, the statement is still wrong.
> It was only " parts" of australia.

Australia, as a country was founded on convicts.

--
Trev.

"Procrastinate Now"


From: "Bocİ" (Boc@no-spam)
Subject: Re: Haves and Have Nots
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 15:56:41 +1000

"Craig Taylor" <cujo@no-spam> wrote in message news:3efaf39e$0$20745@no-spam >
> "M.a.H.TT.E.w" <bloomsbury> wrote in message > news:r26lfv8re8db3942435pl8edl4ihc00kus@no-spam > > On 26 Jun 2003 04:29:17 GMT, Vicki Whyte > > <vickiwhyteusenet@no-spam> wrote:
> >
> > The haves should tell Big Broher to fuck off and to stick the task up > > his arse.
> > It is un Australian to make people suffer.
> > What ever happened to all for one and one for all?
>
> un Australian...
>
> Did you do any history at school? Australia was founded on making people > suffer...
>
>

And we still have the same mentality today !

Boc

From: "reg-john" (crikey@no-spam)
Subject: Re: Haves and Have Nots
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 07:25:47 GMT

the original intention was to chuck convicts onto australia. and sure they killed a damned lot of aborigines. but the attitudes and mateship that developed through the next two centuries is far removed from one of enforcing power. jsut becuase a country was founded a certain way doesnt mean its going to remain the same way over several hundred years. seems like your spring is stronger than matthews.

"Trevor Gensch" <trevorgensch@no-spam> wrote in message news:Q5NKa.41$bW.2349@no-spam >
> "M.a.H.TT.E.w" <bloomsbury> wrote in message > news:1n6nfvkjnr6rngrkl4c96gllq3t7851srb@no-spam > > On Fri, 27 Jun 2003 00:55:17 GMT, "Trevor Gensch"
> > <trevorgensch@no-spam> wrote:
> >
> > >Wrong. NSW and Qld had plenty of free settlers - they were just sharing > > >their land with convicts.
> > Bah.
> > Still had convicts.
>
> Yes, so that still invalidates your statement.
>
> >
> > >
> > >And the OP said Australia, not SA.
> >
> > Well, the statement is still wrong.
> > It was only " parts" of australia.
>
> Australia, as a country was founded on convicts.
>
>
>
> --
> Trev.
>
> "Procrastinate Now"
>
>


From: "reg-john" (crikey@no-spam)
Subject: Re: Haves and Have Nots
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 07:27:11 GMT

i disagree. only someone who has never been out of a capital city would think unaustralian is a meaningless word.

"amit" <pparp316@no-spam> wrote in message news:bdg0j0$smbvf$1@no-spam > "M.a.H.TT.E.w" <bloomsbury> wrote >
> > The haves should tell Big Broher to fuck off and to stick the task up > > his arse.
>
> This would be pretty awesome, revealing of actual character etc. tho' it might > also be kinda boring, since BB'd probably just respond by starving the > housemates, Survivor-style.
>
> > It is un Australian to make people suffer.
>
> Please don't say "unAustralian". It makes you sound like a jackass.
>
> > What ever happened to all for one and one for all?
>
> John-fucking-Howard.
>
> amit.
>
>


From: zaphy (zaphy79spamoff@no-spam)
Subject: Re: Haves and Have Nots
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 17:43:39 +1000

On Fri, 27 Jun 2003 11:12:26 +1000, M.a.H.TT.E.w <bloomsbury>
regurgitated:
>On Fri, 27 Jun 2003 10:39:18 +1000, zaphy <zaphy79spamoff@no-spam>
>wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 27 Jun 2003 09:30:18 +1000, M.a.H.TT.E.w <bloomsbury>
>>regurgitated: >>
>>>Not in my state >>
>>Big Brother isn't taking place in your state.
>
>Irrelevant to my answer.

No it isn't. You brought the issue of SA into the debate, and Big Brother isn't set in SA.

-- zaphy

From: "amit" (pparp316@no-spam)
Subject: Re: Haves and Have Nots
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 15:48:43 +0800

"reg-john" <crikey@no-spam> wrote
> i disagree. only someone who has never been out of a capital city would > think unaustralian is a meaningless word.

Huh? It's an ugly-ass word, that implicitly defines "Australian-ness" as something purely exclusionary, much as you seem to be doing now.

And look at the sort of company the word "unAustralian" puts us in: Stalinist Russa, Nazi Germany, Fascist Italy etc. It seems only Australia and the US still
use the word in political and cultural discourse, which makes me more than a little suspicious of it.

amit.


From: "amit" (pparp316@no-spam)
Subject: Re: Haves and Have Nots
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 16:34:25 +0800

"augette" <marm@no-spam> wrote
> ugly-arse, unless you are referring to an unattractive donkey.

I prefer 'ass'. I also wear my hat backwards, eat only at McDonald's, listen to rap, skate, abuse cops, denigrate my elders, drink Dr Pepper, watch MTV etc. Kids
today, huh?

amit.


From: zaphy (zaphy79spamoff@no-spam)
Subject: Re: Haves and Have Nots
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 18:58:23 +1000

On Fri, 27 Jun 2003 18:28:48 +1000, M.a.H.TT.E.w <bloomsbury>
regurgitated:
>On Fri, 27 Jun 2003 17:43:39 +1000, zaphy <zaphy79spamoff@no-spam>
>wrote:
>
>>>Irrelevant to my answer.
>>
>>No it isn't. You brought the issue of SA into the debate, and Big >>Brother isn't set in SA.
>
>Dickhead.
>Read what my original reply was to.

You said it was un-Australian to make people suffer (referring to BB)
Craig replied that the country was founded on the same idea.
You replied with "not in my state"
So I pointed out that Big Brother doesn't take place in your state -
it's irrelevant to the original point you made.

Dickhead.

-- zaphy

From: M.a.H.TT.E.w (bloomsbury)
Subject: Re: Haves and Have Nots
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 18:59:40 +1000

On Fri, 27 Jun 2003 18:58:23 +1000, zaphy <zaphy79spamoff@no-spam>
wrote:

>On Fri, 27 Jun 2003 18:28:48 +1000, M.a.H.TT.E.w <bloomsbury>
>regurgitated: >
>>On Fri, 27 Jun 2003 17:43:39 +1000, zaphy <zaphy79spamoff@no-spam>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>>Irrelevant to my answer.
>>>
>>>No it isn't. You brought the issue of SA into the debate, and Big >>>Brother isn't set in SA.
>>
>>Dickhead.
>>Read what my original reply was to.
>
>You said it was un-Australian to make people suffer (referring to BB)
>Craig replied that the country was founded on the same idea.
>You replied with "not in my state"
>So I pointed out that Big Brother doesn't take place in your state -
>it's irrelevant to the original point you made.
>

Wrong.
I didnt mention BB
Now go slit your wrists.
Ugly fuck you are.


From: zaphy (zaphy79spamoff@no-spam)
Subject: Re: Haves and Have Nots
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 19:02:44 +1000

On Fri, 27 Jun 2003 18:59:40 +1000, M.a.H.TT.E.w <bloomsbury>
regurgitated:
>On Fri, 27 Jun 2003 18:58:23 +1000, zaphy <zaphy79spamoff@no-spam>
>wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 27 Jun 2003 18:28:48 +1000, M.a.H.TT.E.w <bloomsbury>
>>regurgitated: >>
>>>On Fri, 27 Jun 2003 17:43:39 +1000, zaphy <zaphy79spamoff@no-spam>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>>Irrelevant to my answer.
>>>>
>>>>No it isn't. You brought the issue of SA into the debate, and Big >>>>Brother isn't set in SA.
>>>
>>>Dickhead.
>>>Read what my original reply was to.
>>
>>You said it was un-Australian to make people suffer (referring to BB)
>>Craig replied that the country was founded on the same idea.
>>You replied with "not in my state"
>>So I pointed out that Big Brother doesn't take place in your state -
>>it's irrelevant to the original point you made.
>>
>
>Wrong.
>I didnt mention BB.

So what's your fucking point then? The discussion wasn't about SA, it was about Big Brother.

-- zaphy

From: "cje" (me@no-spam)
Subject: Re: Haves and Have Nots
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2003 13:52:39 +1000

"Trevor Gensch" <trevorgensch@no-spam> wrote in message =
news:Q5NKa.41$bW.2349@no-spam :=20
: "M.a.H.TT.E.w" <bloomsbury> wrote in message : news:1n6nfvkjnr6rngrkl4c96gllq3t7851srb@no-spam : > On Fri, 27 Jun 2003 00:55:17 GMT, "Trevor Gensch"
: > <trevorgensch@no-spam> wrote:
: >
: > >Wrong. NSW and Qld had plenty of free settlers - they were just =
sharing : > >their land with convicts.
: > Bah.
: > Still had convicts.
:=20
: Yes, so that still invalidates your statement.
:=20
: >
: > >
: > >And the OP said Australia, not SA.
: >
: > Well, the statement is still wrong.
: > It was only " parts" of australia.
:=20
: Australia, as a country was founded on convicts.
:=20
:=20
:=20

No wonder he's so sore about the subject...he feels left out cause his =
family was already here as Abo's.


From: "lea" (leee@no-spam)
Subject: Re: Haves and Have Nots
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2003 15:58:37 +1000

> Vicki Whyte wrote:
>
>> Just catching a glimpse of the live feeds.

<snip>

>> Vincent says that the Haves are acting like they have to treat them >> like servants. Vincent also said that to him this is just like they >> have two different tasks to do - they aren't suddenly not as good,
>> they just have to do different tasks. That's a *really* good way to >> look at it. He and Chrissie agree on this while no-brain Pat just >> strums on his guitar (badly).

Just because Pat's not out there flapping his gums 24/7 doesn't mean he's stupid !
I think it is very poor for you to label him a no-brain unless you can back it up.

>> Almost every time I drop in on the live feeds they are separated >> into the Haves and Have Nots. Sure, they have different things to >> do, but that doens't mean that they have to live totally separate >> lives! There are a lot of hours in the day that they're not eating >> meals (which they can't do together) or watching movies (which they >> can't do together) or cleaning the house (which they can't do >> together). But they aren't socialising even when they aren't doing >> a task required of them by the Have/Have Not task.

to do so might make them lose the task inadvertently.


From: augette (marm@no-spam)
Subject: Re: Haves and Have Nots
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2003 17:15:21 +1000

leee@no-spam :
|| Just because Pat's not out there flapping his gums 24/7 doesn't mean he's || stupid !
|| I think it is very poor for you to label him a no-brain unless you can back || it up
I quite like Patrick, a take me as I am kinda guy.


From: "The Charmed One [Aka: Nat]" (nat2sim@no-spam)
Subject: Re: Haves and Have Nots
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2003 19:37:43 +1000

"zaphy" <zaphy79spamoff@no-spam> wrote in message news:hi1ofvsr26t6ukehqdn0puknc2n0hqppee@no-spam > On Fri, 27 Jun 2003 18:28:48 +1000, M.a.H.TT.E.w <bloomsbury>
> regurgitated:
>
> >On Fri, 27 Jun 2003 17:43:39 +1000, zaphy <zaphy79spamoff@no-spam>
> >wrote:
> >
> >>>Irrelevant to my answer.
> >>
> >>No it isn't. You brought the issue of SA into the debate, and Big > >>Brother isn't set in SA.
> >
> >Dickhead.
> >Read what my original reply was to.

*Whoooooossshh* Fraudster.


From: M.a.H.TT.E.w (bloomsbury)
Subject: Re: Haves and Have Nots
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2003 19:51:58 +1000

On Sat, 28 Jun 2003 19:37:43 +1000, "The Charmed One [Aka: Nat]"
<nat2sim@no-spam> wrote:

>
>"zaphy" <zaphy79spamoff@no-spam> wrote in message >news:hi1ofvsr26t6ukehqdn0puknc2n0hqppee@no-spam >> On Fri, 27 Jun 2003 18:28:48 +1000, M.a.H.TT.E.w <bloomsbury>
>> regurgitated:
>>
>> >On Fri, 27 Jun 2003 17:43:39 +1000, zaphy <zaphy79spamoff@no-spam>
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> >>>Irrelevant to my answer.
>> >>
>> >>No it isn't. You brought the issue of SA into the debate, and Big >> >>Brother isn't set in SA.
>> >
>> >Dickhead.
>> >Read what my original reply was to.
>
>
>*Whoooooossshh* Fraudster.
>

You're calling Zaphy a fraudster?
Man, i think the dude is a bit of a wanker at times..but to accuse the bloke of that is kinda low.