AUS TV 44 RE TV SHOW LINK IN TRIPLE MURDER PROBE
From: Caitlin H (caitlin.harris@no-spam)
Subject: Re: TV show link in triple murder probe
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 02:14:04 GMT


Victor wrote:
> http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,6661722%255E1702,00.html
> >>POLICE investigating the brutal murders of three Brisbane siblings are >>viewing tapes of the American television show CSI for clues.
> > > > They're getting training from a tv show?
> I had no idea that the police were that useless.
> Actually, maybe I did.
>
I doubt they are 'getting training' from the show.

Surely it is because the accused watched CSI and used methods seen on the show to try and get away with the crimes, or something along those lines.

Am I stating the obvious here?

> I guess this makes me a qualified paranormal investigator as I have seen > every episode of "The X-Files."
> Oh, and a lawyer too as I have seen a couple of episodes of "The Practice."
> >

From: longshanks (longshanks@no-spam)
Subject: Re: TV show link in triple murder probe
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 05:33:30 GMT

Caitlin H wrote:

> Surely it is because the accused watched CSI and used methods seen on > the show to try and get away with the crimes, or something along those > lines.
>
> Am I stating the obvious here?

That's what I thought, too.
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From: "Falkon" (falkon@no-spam)
Subject: Re: TV show link in triple murder probe
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 16:02:22 +1000

"longshanks" <longshanks@no-spam> wrote in message news:3EFBD72A.3070009@no-spam > Caitlin H wrote:
>
> > Surely it is because the accused watched CSI and used methods seen on > > the show to try and get away with the crimes, or something along those > > lines.
> >
> > Am I stating the obvious here?
>
> That's what I thought, too.
>
> Ed Wilson >

Me too - clearly they think the perpetrator watched CSI.
Now all we need to know is which episode.
Does anyone remember an episode where the suspect deliberately contaminated the crime scene with his/her DNA on an occasion prior to the commission of the crime?
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From: longshanks (longshanks@no-spam)
Subject: Re: TV show link in triple murder probe
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 07:00:01 GMT

Falkon wrote:

>Does anyone remember an episode where the suspect deliberately contaminated >the crime scene with his/her DNA on an occasion prior to the commission of >the crime?
> >
Yeah, there's the one where the guy spread himself (as it were) all over a house that was for sale (I think) by taking his girlfriend there and wandering all over the house and then having sex. As I recall, the murder had already been committed in the house (unbeknownst to the girlfriend) and he was covering his trail by making that trail too huge to define. Am I remembering that right?

Ed Wilson
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From: Darrell Mayeda (drmayeda@no-spam)
Subject: Re: TV show link in triple murder probe
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 09:15:25 GMT

Victor wrote:
> > http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,6661722%255E1702,00.html
> >
> > POLICE investigating the brutal murders of three Brisbane siblings are > > viewing tapes of the American television show CSI for clues.
> > They're getting training from a tv show?
> I had no idea that the police were that useless.
> Actually, maybe I did.
> it's not that far fetched. waay back when episodes of the police drama Adam-12 about 2 cops on the beat were tagged for use as training aides in proper procedure for police patrol officers. THAT'S how realistic it was. Jack webb had a pair of bang up shows. the original Dragnet With Harry Morgan and that other guy as Joe Friday. that kind of show probably would get very far with today's TPTB. Look at what they did to Dragnet in the remake. Not bad but it had some rough spots.

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Subject: Re: TV show link in triple murder probe
From: Eric (lurker35@no-spam)
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 15:10:51 GMT

> Yeah, there's the one where the guy spread himself (as it were) all > over a house that was for sale (I think) by taking his girlfriend > there and wandering all over the house and then having sex. As I > recall, the murder had already been committed in the house > (unbeknownst to the girlfriend) and he was covering his trail by > making that trail too huge to define. Am I remembering that right?
> > Ed Wilson >
There was one where the guy kept blowing his bloody nose on the wall and they thought there was a murder there. The only one I can think of that was at all related to hot tubs was the chick that ate something she was allergic to and later died in the sauna. But that wasn't really on purpose.


From: "Brent McKee" (bSmckee@no-spam)
Subject: Re: TV show link in triple murder probe
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2003 01:28:18 GMT

"Darrell Mayeda" <drmayeda@no-spam> wrote in message news:3EFC0B8E.66F5170@no-spam > Victor wrote:
> >
> >
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,6661722%
255E1702,00.html > > >
> > > POLICE investigating the brutal murders of three Brisbane siblings are > > > viewing tapes of the American television show CSI for clues.
> >
> > They're getting training from a tv show?
> > I had no idea that the police were that useless.
> > Actually, maybe I did.
> >
> it's not that far fetched. waay back when episodes of the police > drama Adam-12 about 2 cops on the beat were tagged for use as training > aides in proper procedure for police patrol officers. THAT'S how > realistic it was. Jack webb had a pair of bang up shows. the > original Dragnet With Harry Morgan and that other guy as Joe Friday.
> that kind of show probably would get very far with today's TPTB.
Look > at what they did to Dragnet in the remake. Not bad but it had some > rough spots.

Not to make too much of a point of it, but the version of "Dragnet"
with Harry Morgan was not the original. For that you have to go back to the early 1950s and the version that starred Ben Alexander as Officer Frank Smith. (Actually Friday's original partner was Ben Romero played by Barton Yarborough, but Yarborough died four days after shooting the second episode.) To those who have seen both the 1950s version and the 1960s one there's no comparison -- the '50s series is grittier and more realistic.

As for "Adam-12" I don't know about it being used as a training aid,
but one thing a lot of real cops pointed out as being _unrealistic_
was just how often they fire their guns -- they shoot in practically every episode. A guy I went to high school with became a cop once he turned 18. I saw him at our 25th reunion and he mentioned that the scariest moment in his career was the one time in over twenty years on the Saskatoon City Police that he had to _draw_ his gun in a policing situation. Now admittedly Saskatoon is a mid-sized Canadian city,
but as I understand it the reality is closer to my old friend's situation than the daily gunplay on "Adam-12".

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From: Darrell Mayeda (drmayeda@no-spam)
Subject: Re: TV show link in triple murder probe
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2003 09:12:17 GMT

Brent McKee wrote:
>
> Not to make too much of a point of it, but the version of "Dragnet"
> with Harry Morgan was not the original. For that you have to go back > to the early 1950s and the version that starred Ben Alexander as > Officer Frank Smith. (Actually Friday's original partner was Ben > Romero played by Barton Yarborough, but Yarborough died four days > after shooting the second episode.) To those who have seen both the > 1950s version and the 1960s one there's no comparison -- the '50s > series is grittier and more realistic.
> > As for "Adam-12" I don't know about it being used as a training aid,
> but one thing a lot of real cops pointed out as being _unrealistic_
> was just how often they fire their guns -- they shoot in practically > every episode. A guy I went to high school with became a cop once he > turned 18. I saw him at our 25th reunion and he mentioned that the > scariest moment in his career was the one time in over twenty years on > the Saskatoon City Police that he had to _draw_ his gun in a policing > situation. Now admittedly Saskatoon is a mid-sized Canadian city,
> but as I understand it the reality is closer to my old friend's > situation than the daily gunplay on "Adam-12".
> > --
> Brent McKee > I don't remember that many shootings. is this the original Adam 12
with Martin Milner and Kent McCord or the remake from the 70's. my comments are about the 60's version with Milner and McCord. It's been a long time so I may be a little off.

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From: BTR1701 (BTR1702@no-spam)
Subject: Re: TV show link in triple murder probe
Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 17:06:29 GMT

In article <3EFC0B8E.66F5170@no-spam>, drmayeda@no-spam wrote:

> Victor wrote:
> > > > http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,6661722%25
> > 5E1702,00.html > > >
> > > POLICE investigating the brutal murders of three Brisbane siblings > > > are viewing tapes of the American television show CSI for clues.
> > > > They're getting training from a tv show?
> > I had no idea that the police were that useless.
> > Actually, maybe I did.
> > > it's not that far fetched.

It is when the TV show is so completely devoid of actual police procedures as CSI is.

waay back when episodes of the police > drama Adam-12 about 2 cops on the beat were tagged for use as training > aides in proper procedure for police patrol officers. THAT'S how > realistic it was.
Believe me, no one is training crime scene techs with CSI.

Law & Order, maybe. Not CSI.


From: BTR1701 (BTR1702@no-spam)
Subject: Re: TV show link in triple murder probe
Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 17:07:28 GMT

In article <Sa6La.334594$Vi5.8498071@no-spam>, "Brent McKee" <bSmckee@no-spam> wrote:

> As for "Adam-12" I don't know about it being used as a training aid,
> but one thing a lot of real cops pointed out as being _unrealistic_
> was just how often they fire their guns -- they shoot in practically > every episode.

I've made it 5 years without firing my gun anywhere other than the shooting range. God willing, I never will.