On Sat, 28 Jun 2003 08:56:49 +0100, in a fit of unbridled digital verbosity,
once again proving the problem is located between the seat and the keyboard,
"nick" <pizzalovingcriminals@no-spam> two-fingered to all:
|>
|>"Little John" <jammin1@no-spam> wrote in message
|>
|>> |>> |>That was done by the Americans in the 1800s, see your own history
|>for
|>> |>> |>details.
|>> |>>
|>> |>> That's a total lie, poo-boy, and you damned well know it.
|>> |>
|>> |>What lie would that be?
|>>
|>> The one you typed, poo-boy.
|>
|>So you think that no Native Americans were killed in the 1800s?
You're not weaseling out of this one again, poo-boy. You constantly do this.
You claim one extreme (the US killed most of the Indians), and when bitch
slapped for the stupidity of the statement, you jump to the other extreme (the
US killed some Indians). No more poo-shuffle, bitch boy. Most is not
equivalent to any. Most is not equivalent to some. Most is equivalent to a
majority. Considering the majority had already been wiped out at the hands of
you and your fellow peans, your claims suck swamp gas.
|>> |>> Of the more than 22 million that were here when the Italian landed,
|>only 2
|>> |>million were left in
|>> |>> 1775. That's not just in what would become the US, but in both of the
|>> |>> continents of the Americas, and the various nearby islands.
|>> |>
|>> |>" in the words of historian Tomas Almaquer, "the California state
|>government
|>> |>launched a systematic policy of sanctioned decimation." In January 1851,
|>> |>Gov. Peter H. Burnett's message to the California legislature read, "A
|>war
|>> |>of extermination will continue to be waged between the two races until
|>the
|>> |>Indian race becomes extinct." (California had a bounty on Indians that
|>> |>lasted until the last decades of the 19th century. In one year alone the
|>> |>State of California paid out $1 million to people who had killed Native
|>> |>Californian Indians. WFI) A startling drop in native population ensued.
|>In
|>> |>1848 perhaps 150,000 Indians lived in California, compared to about
|>15,000
|>> |>non-Indians, mostly Mexican Californians. Ten years later just 16,000
|>> |>Indians were left. "
|>>
|>> You seem intent on calling up points of thousands, while ignoring points
|>of
|>> millions, poo-boy. Why is that? Can't argue against the facts, so you
|>attempt
|>> to shift focus, as in do the poo-shuffle?
|>
|>That was just one state in a 10 year period.
Poo, as dense as you often show yourself to be, even you can't be dense enough
so as not to understand the basics of the debate and your untenable position
therein.
|>In the 1800s your country carried out possibly the greatest genocide the
|>world has ever seen.
That is pure bullshit. I will not deny that attrocities occurred within the US
after its inception. Only a fool would even attempt as much. But, if we're
going to point fingers and shout "genocide", let's do it properly. Let's
compare numbers of people and tribes, or, to use the PC term, ethnic groups,
eliminated.
|>> 20 million, poo-boy. That's how many of my ancestors you and the rest of
|>the
|>> 'peans slaughtered and destroyed. Twenty thousand thousand. And you
|>attempt to
|>> compare a few tens of thousands? Lame, even for you, p'uta'k.
|>
|>You always need someone else to blame, face it, you Americans did the
|>killing.
Another poo-boy lie.
|>> |>> What the US did to my people was a drop in the bucket to what you lot
|>did.
|>> |>
|>> |>So says a guilty American.
|>>
|>> Excuse me, ch'tkt'u?
|>
|>So says a guilty American.
You are exactly what I said you are.
jammin1 at jammin1 dot com
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"Little John" <jammin1@no-spam> wrote in message
> |>> |>What lie would that be?
> |>>
> |>> The one you typed, poo-boy.
> |>
> |>So you think that no Native Americans were killed in the 1800s?
>
> You're not weaseling out of this one again, poo-boy. You constantly do
this.
> You claim one extreme (the US killed most of the Indians),
Which you did.
> and when bitch slapped for the stupidity of the statement,
You've been bitch slapped by histoty, fatboy.
> you jump to the other extreme (the US killed some Indians).
You killed most of them.
> No more poo-shuffle, bitch boy. Most is not
> equivalent to any. Most is not equivalent to some. Most is equivalent to
a
> majority. Considering the majority had already been wiped out at the
hands of
> you and your fellow peans, your claims suck swamp gas.
You (America) embarked on a systematic attempt to exterminate the Native
Americans during the 1800s, to the extent that rewards were given to those
who took part in the ethnic cleansing, who you continue to pretend that this
did not happen when it is thoroughly documented is a mystery.
You are a liar and a fool.
> |>> |>> Of the more than 22 million that were here when the Italian
landed,
> |>only 2
> |>> |>million were left in
> |>> |>> 1775. That's not just in what would become the US, but in both of
the
> |>> |>> continents of the Americas, and the various nearby islands.
> |>> |>
> |>> |>" in the words of historian Tomas Almaquer, "the California state
> |>government
> |>> |>launched a systematic policy of sanctioned decimation." In January
1851,
> |>> |>Gov. Peter H. Burnett's message to the California legislature read,
"A
> |>war
> |>> |>of extermination will continue to be waged between the two races
until
> |>the
> |>> |>Indian race becomes extinct." (California had a bounty on Indians
that
> |>> |>lasted until the last decades of the 19th century. In one year alone
the
> |>> |>State of California paid out $1 million to people who had killed
Native
> |>> |>Californian Indians. WFI) A startling drop in native population
ensued.
> |>In
> |>> |>1848 perhaps 150,000 Indians lived in California, compared to about
> |>15,000
> |>> |>non-Indians, mostly Mexican Californians. Ten years later just
16,000
> |>> |>Indians were left. "
> |>>
> |>> You seem intent on calling up points of thousands, while ignoring
points
> |>of
> |>> millions, poo-boy. Why is that? Can't argue against the facts, so
you
> |>attempt
> |>> to shift focus, as in do the poo-shuffle?
> |>
> |>That was just one state in a 10 year period.
>
> Poo, as dense as you often show yourself to be, even you can't be dense
enough
> so as not to understand the basics of the debate and your untenable
position
> therein.
I have fact and history on my side, you, my fat friend, are desperately
trying to avoid both fact and your countries grisly history.
> |>In the 1800s your country carried out possibly the greatest genocide the
> |>world has ever seen.
>
> That is pure bullshit.
Where did the all the Indians go then?
Are they hiding?
> I will not deny that attrocities occurred within the US
> after its inception. Only a fool would even attempt as much. But, if
we're
> going to point fingers and shout "genocide", let's do it properly. Let's
> compare numbers of people and tribes, or, to use the PC term, ethnic
groups,
> eliminated.
150,000 Indians lived in California in 1848, ten years later just 16,000
were left.
You don't consider that genocide?
> |>> 20 million, poo-boy. That's how many of my ancestors you and the rest
of
> |>the
> |>> 'peans slaughtered and destroyed. Twenty thousand thousand. And you
> |>attempt to
> |>> compare a few tens of thousands? Lame, even for you, p'uta'k.
> |>
> |>You always need someone else to blame, face it, you Americans did the
> |>killing.
>
> Another poo-boy lie.
"In 1864 Col Chivington ( a former clergyman that had political ambitions)
was appointed the territorial military commander in Colorado. After some
isolated incidents with the Indians, Chivington sent out detachments to burn
and destroy Indian villages, the Cheyenne, Arapahos, Sioux, Kiowa's, and
Comanches's struck back. this give Chivington the opportunity that he was
looking for, to launch a full scale attack on the Indians."
"On November 29, 1864, Chivington deployed his command, about seven hundred
solders with howitzers around Black Kettle's village on Sand Creek. Black
Kettle was under the impression that he was at peace with the Americans; he
ran up the American Flag and assured his people that all was well. the
troops opened fire and charged. The Indians scattered in all directions.
Chivington had made it clear that he wanted no prisoners, hie policy was "to
kill and scalp all, little and big". Nits make lice he was fond of saying."
"About a week prior to the slaughter at Wounded Knee, L.Frank Baum, editor
of South Dakota's Aberdeen Saturday Pioneer newspaper advocated the
extermination of all America's Indians. Quote; The nobility of the Redskin
is extinquished and what few are left are a pack of whining curs who lick
the hand that smites them. The whites by law of conquest, by justice of
civilization, are masters of the American continent, and the best safety of
the frontier settlements will be secured by the total annihilation of the
few remaining Indians."
"Some U.S. government officials even promoted the destruction of the bison
herds as a way to defeat their Native American enemies, who were resisting
the takeover of their lands by white settlers. One Congressman, James
Throckmorton of Texas, believed that "it would be a great step forward in
the civilization of the Indians and the preservation of peace on the border
if there was not a buffalo in existence." Soon, military commanders were
ordering their troops to kill buffalo -- not for food, but to deny Native
Americans their own source of food. One general believed that buffalo
hunters "did more to defeat the Indian nations in a few years than soldiers
did in 50." By 1880, the slaughter was almost over. Where millions of
buffalo once roamed, only a few thousand animals remained. Soon, their
numbers dwindled, with the largest wild herd -- just a few hundred
animals -- "
"It's not well known, but the BIA for years subsidized an educational
program intended to alienate Native American youngsters from their parents.
Starting in the 1800s and ending only in 1944, Morman missionaries were used
to "kidnap" children and take them to Utah to get educated. Indian children
were often rounded up at the age of 6 and not returned home until the age of
18. This kind of practice is more typical of totalitarian regimes, and is,
in fact, referred to as an act of genocide in the 1948 U.N. Declaration of
Human Rights."
How many bitch slaps can you take LJ?