NZ GENERAL 21 RE CALUM BENNACHIE AND CEDAW
From: lisieux@no-spam (lisieux)
Subject: Re: Calum Bennachie and CEDAW
Date: 3 Jul 2003 18:02:34 -0700


"Calum Bennachie" <bennachie@no-spam> wrote in message news:<aA6Ha.5427$Jq3.913678@no-spam>...


> >
> > The NZHRC did not mention Article 6 in its most peculiar submission > > nor did it refer to the general notes. The CEDAW Committee has > > *never* expressed similar views. That is a fact and Goff was not > > telling the truth about what CEDAW Committee said about Sweden.
> > Again, you are incorrect. Goff was paraphrasing from the CEDAW report on Sweden, paragraphs 454 and
> 455.

He actually said it was a finding. I can understand the Queen's English. If he said it was a wild freaking guess I'm sure I would have let it go. However he obviously didn't and you know he didn't, the truth matters nothing to you.

You are in complete denial on this and on that Swedish thing which has you reluctant to post in your two little Swedish emails. I am not incorrect, also about two dozen other people who I mailed it to all agreed with me.

> > You have not provided one shred of proof of anything you have said.
Phil Goff's actual comments without any paraphrasing are in the NZ Hansard and you know it and I know it but you have to worm and twist and prevaricate because the truth is not your friend Calum.

Sorry to have to gloat. However you must have told me to fuck off sixty times and you are one of the rudest people I've ever encountered. I was always polite to you with a Dear Calum and a Kind Regards ad infinitum, but all I got in return was one "fuck off" after another.

>The only reason I know that you > are correct when you say the Russian mafia are involved in the sex industry in Sweden is because
> that tallies with Flink (2002) and with what Swedish sex workers are saying. I have no proof from
> any other quarter that the Estonian mafia are involved.

Find us ONE single clandestine brothel for us in Sweden and then count the brothels in NZ using girls who do not even speak English.

How on earth can you have legal consent if the girl can't even speak the same language as the man sodomizing her? Does he learn 'no' in Chinese?

Your brothel trade is full of coercion and trafficking and your new law will do nothing for those girls.


From: "Calum Bennachie" (bennachie@no-spam)
Subject: Re: Calum Bennachie and CEDAW
Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 20:25:55 +1200

"lisieux" <lisieux@no-spam> wrote in message news:7734dcd6.0307031702.4c273d0a@no-spam > "Calum Bennachie" <bennachie@no-spam> wrote in message news:<aA6Ha.5427$Jq3.913678@no-spam>...
>
> > >
> > > The NZHRC did not mention Article 6 in its most peculiar submission > > > nor did it refer to the general notes. The CEDAW Committee has > > > *never* expressed similar views. That is a fact and Goff was not > > > telling the truth about what CEDAW Committee said about Sweden.
> >
> > Again, you are incorrect. Goff was paraphrasing from the CEDAW report on Sweden, paragraphs 454

and > > 455.
>
> He actually said it was a finding. I can understand the Queen's > English. If he said it was a wild freaking guess I'm sure I would have > let it go. However he obviously didn't and you know he didn't, the > truth matters nothing to you.
>
> You are in complete denial on this and on that Swedish thing which has > you reluctant to post in your two little Swedish emails. I am not > incorrect, also about two dozen other people who I mailed it to all > agreed with me.
>
>
> >
> > You have not provided one shred of proof of anything you have said.
>
> Phil Goff's actual comments without any paraphrasing are in the NZ > Hansard and you know it and I know it but you have to worm and twist > and prevaricate because the truth is not your friend Calum.
>
> Sorry to have to gloat. However you must have told me to fuck off > sixty times and you are one of the rudest people I've ever > encountered. I was always polite to you with a Dear Calum and a Kind > Regards ad infinitum, but all I got in return was one "fuck off" after > another.
>
>
>
> >The only reason I know that you > > are correct when you say the Russian mafia are involved in the sex industry in Sweden is because
> > that tallies with Flink (2002) and with what Swedish sex workers are saying. I have no proof
from > > any other quarter that the Estonian mafia are involved.
>
>
> Find us ONE single clandestine brothel for us in Sweden and then count > the brothels in NZ using girls who do not even speak English.
>
> How on earth can you have legal consent if the girl can't even speak > the same language as the man sodomizing her? Does he learn 'no' in > Chinese?
>
> Your brothel trade is full of coercion and trafficking and your new > law will do nothing for those girls.

Again, you speak from the position of ignorance by distance. you know nothing of what you speak
about. Fuck off.

Calum

From: "Gregory" (gregory.humanitas@no-spam)
Subject: Re: Calum Bennachie and CEDAW
Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 15:06:08 +0100

"Calum Bennachie" <bennachie@no-spam> wrote in message news:uSaNa.2827$9f7.282871@no-spam >
> "lisieux" <lisieux@no-spam> wrote in message > news:7734dcd6.0307031702.4c273d0a@no-spam > > "Calum Bennachie" <bennachie@no-spam> wrote in message > news:<aA6Ha.5427$Jq3.913678@no-spam>...
> >
> > > >
> > > > The NZHRC did not mention Article 6 in its most peculiar submission > > > > nor did it refer to the general notes. The CEDAW Committee has > > > > *never* expressed similar views. That is a fact and Goff was not > > > > telling the truth about what CEDAW Committee said about Sweden.
> > >
> > > Again, you are incorrect. Goff was paraphrasing from the CEDAW report on Sweden, paragraphs 454
> and > > > 455.
> >
> > He actually said it was a finding. I can understand the Queen's > > English. If he said it was a wild freaking guess I'm sure I would have > > let it go. However he obviously didn't and you know he didn't, the > > truth matters nothing to you.
> >
> > You are in complete denial on this and on that Swedish thing which has > > you reluctant to post in your two little Swedish emails. I am not > > incorrect, also about two dozen other people who I mailed it to all > > agreed with me.
> >
> >
> > >
> > > You have not provided one shred of proof of anything you have said.
> >
> > Phil Goff's actual comments without any paraphrasing are in the NZ > > Hansard and you know it and I know it but you have to worm and twist > > and prevaricate because the truth is not your friend Calum.
> >
> > Sorry to have to gloat. However you must have told me to fuck off > > sixty times and you are one of the rudest people I've ever > > encountered. I was always polite to you with a Dear Calum and a Kind > > Regards ad infinitum, but all I got in return was one "fuck off" after > > another.
> >
> >
> >
> > >The only reason I know that you > > > are correct when you say the Russian mafia are involved in the sex industry in Sweden is because > > > that tallies with Flink (2002) and with what Swedish sex workers are saying. I have no proof > from > > > any other quarter that the Estonian mafia are involved.
> >
> >
> > Find us ONE single clandestine brothel for us in Sweden and then count > > the brothels in NZ using girls who do not even speak English.
> >
> > How on earth can you have legal consent if the girl can't even speak > > the same language as the man sodomizing her? Does he learn 'no' in > > Chinese?
> >
> > Your brothel trade is full of coercion and trafficking and your new > > law will do nothing for those girls.
>
> Again, you speak from the position of ignorance by distance. you know nothing of what you speak > about. Fuck off.
>
> Calum >
>

Dear Calum,

That has been as close by my own reading as you have ever come to conceding that the Prostitution Reform Bill was a nothing more than a scam. Mr. Phil Goff's actual CEDAW comments for that day in February without any paraphrasing are in the NZ Hansard.

Kind regards
Gregory