NZ GENERAL 48 RE STATE HOUSING
From: Phelan (freetrade@no-spam)
Subject: Re: State housing
Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2003 23:09:34 +1200


Redbaiter wrote:

> Bob Howard says...
> >>>This is an 8 year old computer, which is virtually valueless. Net access >>>costs $5 a week.
>>>
>>I don't object to your having a computer and presumably a TV set, $100 shoes >>and no doubt on a strict budget you eat well enough.
>>
> > I do, fucking parasite. > > > >>I don't want to see >>people living in a cardboard box and rifling through rubbish bins. >>
> > I do. Fuck him, he's a bludger.
> > >>But I >>just wish beneficiaries would say thank you occasionally to the people who >>pay them a living allowance instead of constantly slagging off the "rich".
>>
> > Exactly Bob, which is why parasites like Dunford get no sympathy > from me and neither should such hypocritical losers get it from > anyone else. Excessive tolerance as promoted by vote buying > leftist politicians has a lot to answer for, especially in > respect of encouraging nasty hate filled hypocritical and jealous > layabouts like Dunford to proliferate.
> > >>You call me middle class living comfortably with no knowledge of the poor.
>>But it is people like me who keep the poor who can't look after themselves.
>>When I suggest that people like you presumably in good health and not too >>old should do some community work I am accused of wanting to turn them into >>slaves.
>>
>>
> Exactly again Bob. The kind of mentality exhibited by social > trash like Dunford is far too widespread in the country. A good > dose of cold and starvation would do wonders for the state of > mind of such vicious animals. Cut his dole to one third and asset > test it as well. Make him sell his computer, and anything else he > doesn't need to keep him breathing.
> > Goddamn, I'm fucked if I want to provide arseholes like him with > a comfortable living and an internet connection and a computer so > he can sit around on his fat useless unemployable arse posting > hate messages about Redbaiter and his other betters all day long. > I'm fucking paying for him to post his fucking hate.
> > As for his crap about paying tax because they deduct some money > from his dole. How fucking self deluded can you get.?????
> > Nobody in this country is paying tax unless they get paid from an > account separate from the tax account. And there's fuck all of > them about and their getting less and less everyday, while scum > like Dunford are proliferating worse than the goddamn weeds in my > granny's garden.
> > The bludging bastard needs a good dose of fucking reality. Like > most of his blood sucking ilk that are bringing us all down with > their warped hate filled envy driven mind sets.
> >
hear fucking hear !!! I couldn't have said it better myself, it is exactly like the guilt trip we have foisted on us over Maaaaaori, I am sick of it. Mainlaander thinks he is entitled to rob me of money to keep him in the lifestyle he has become accustomed to... fuck that, why the hell should i pay for his freaking internet access !!!
I pay for him to survive until he finds a job, something he has not indicated he is prepared to do. That involves food and shelter not bloody internet access so he can slag me off !
I can get insult for free I shouldn't have to pay for them !
If I had my way unemployed would be given vouchers not cash !

-- When the looters' state collapses, deprived of the best of its slaves, when it falls to a level of impotent chaos, and dissolves into starving robber gangs fighting to rob one another - when the advocates of morality of sacrifice perish with their final ideal - then and on that day we will return.
John Galt, Atlas Shrugged - Ayn Rand

From: mikegordge@no-spam (Michael Gordge)
Subject: Re: State housing
Date: 9 Jul 2003 14:15:03 -0700

> If I had my way unemployed would be given vouchers > not cash !
> > --
If I had MY way, those who could would earn and get "given" nothing.


From: "Bob Howard" (no@no-spam)
Subject: Re: State housing
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 12:17:07 +1200

"Mainlander" <*@no-spam> wrote in message news:MPG.1975402b73a79241989930@no-spam
>
> If you don't like living here, go and live on Mars, no government there.
> I'm sure you'd love it, you and all the rest of the act whingers.

Translation: I'm all right sitting here living off everyone else. What are you complaining about?

Patrick, I have a son who was on a benefit unable to get a job and particularly not in the line of his qualification. He did supplement his benefit with a small part time job. Finally he moved from Hamilton to Auckland and had a job in his line within a month. It was also in response to some prodding from me as I told him living off everybody else was the lowest of the low.

My atttitude is there is more dignity in cleaning public toilets than living off benefits. Have you thought of shifting in an effort to get employment Patrick? What about Wellington or Auckland?

Bob Howard.


From: Mainlander (*@no-spam)
Subject: Re: State housing
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 14:53:58 +1200

In article <3F0BF7EE.7000607@no-spam>, freetrade@no-spam says...

> I pay for him to survive until he finds a job, > something he has not indicated he is prepared to > do.
Bulldust! you just made that up...


From: Mainlander (*@no-spam)
Subject: Re: State housing
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 19:42:28 +1200

In article <bekja1$pm3$1@no-spam>, no@no-spam says...
> > "Mainlander" <*@no-spam> wrote in message > news:MPG.1977a28485e3c47e98995e@no-spam > > >
> > It may be a simple exercise from your viewpoint, but the degree of social > > dislocation would be enormous, not to mention the fact that I have very > > little family support available to me from such a great distance away > > from where I am living now.
> > I won't press you any further because your exact circumstances are your own > business. Perhaps you have medical problems which make life harder.
> > As for supporters of the right being out of touch, why should they be? Apart > from perhaps the multi rich most National supporters have moderate incomes > and means. They are distinguished more by being reasonable achievers who > like to be left to do their own thing and not be controlled by socialistic > governments. They nevertheless know what it is like to be out of work and > have family members not doing so well. Rather than rushing off to the > government they are more likely to see their family members as their own > responsibility and help them.
> > National is not the rich man's party. It is the party of individual > responsibility and free enterprise.

They lost most of their credibility with people like Ruth Richardson, Max Bradford and whoever was the architect of the roading reforms.