Roo Boy Roberts wrote:
> I hate fundamental christians just as much, I hate ALL ORGANIZED religion.
>
> If you need to believe in some stone age fairy tale to guide you through
> your life, you're pathetic I feel sorry for you.
>
> But today's Muslims are where the Dark Age Catholics were 1,000 years ago,
> thats how backward these people are.
>
> BTW the Americans are being forced to fight this war by a bunch of bullshit
> politically correct rules, the filthy muslim terrorist scum are not.
>
> All's fair in love & war and that includes fudging the truth occassionally.
>
Dear me, that is a lot of hate for one guy, good thing you are trying to share
it
Deborah
Roo Boy Roberts wrote:
> I'll take a lying American over any type of Muslim any time.
Honesty has nothing to do with religion, or nationality, or
race, or colour. When the lies are designed to justify the
killing of innocent people for commercial gain that is pure
evil.
>
> At least I feel like I belong to the same species.
Have I got news for you!
>
> Unlike the backward thinking sand dwellers who drop to their knees and pray
> to some evil version of Mother Goose, 5 times per day!
Isn't freedom wonderful. You can have any belief system you
like as long as it's the same as mine.
>
> . . . and thinks that causing misery & heartache for innocent people in this
> life will guarantee a place in Heaven in the next.
GW Bush could have said just that.
>
> Thats quite some religion they have there!
Every Muslim a terrorist and every American as pure as the
driven snow.
>
> Fair dinkum, I'd rather be an Essendon supporter.
non sequitur
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> "Redbaiter" <don't@no-spam> wrote in message
> news:3efd34de@no-spam
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>>http://www.conceptnetworks.com.au/~jackc/screenwin.htm
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>>"The Iraqi dictator must not be permitted to threaten America and the
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> world
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>>with horrible poisons and diseases and gases and atomic weapons."
>>- George Bush, Oct. 7, 2002, in a speech in Cincinnati.
>>
>>
>>There is a small somber box that appears in the New York Times every day.
>>Titled simply "Killed in Iraq," it lists the names and military
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> affiliations
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>>of those who most recently died on tour of duty. Wednesday's edition
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> listed
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>>just one name: Orenthial J. Smith, age 21, of Allendale, South Carolina.
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>>
>>The young late O.J. Smith was almost certainly named after the legendary
>>running back, Orenthal J. Simpson, before that dashing American hero was
>>charged for a double-murder. Now his namesake has died in far-off
>>Mesopotamia in a noble mission to, as our president put it on March 19,
>>"disarm Iraq, to free its people and to defend the world from grave
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> danger."
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>>
>>Today, more than three months after Bush's stirring declaration of war and
>>nearly two months since he declared victory, no chemical, biological or
>>nuclear weapons have been found, nor any documentation of their existence,
>>nor any sign they were deployed in the field.
>>
>>
>>The mainstream press, after an astonishing two years of cowardice, is
>>belatedly drawing attention to the unconscionable level of administrative
>>deception. They seem surprised to find that when it comes to Iraq, the
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> Bush
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>>administration isn't prone to the occasional lie of expediency but, in
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> fact,
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>>almost never told the truth.
>>
>>
>>What follows are just the most outrageous and significant of the dozens of
>>outright lies uttered by Bush and his top officials over the past year in
>>what amounts to a systematic campaign to scare the bejeezus out of
>>everybody:
>>
>>
>>LIE #1: "The evidence indicates that Iraq is reconstituting its nuclear
>>weapons program ... Iraq has attempted to purchase high-strength aluminum
>>tubes and other equipment need for gas centrifuges, which are used to
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> enrich
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>>uranium for nuclear weapons." - President Bush, Oct. 7, 2002, in
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> Cincinnati.
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>>
>>FACT: This story, leaked to and breathlessly reported by Judith Miller in
>>the New York Times, has turned out to be complete baloney. Department of
>>Energy officials, who monitor nuclear plants, say the tubes could not be
>>used for enriching uranium. One intelligence analyst, who was part of the
>>tubes investigation, angrily told The New Republic that, "You had senior
>>American officials like Condoleezza Rice saying the only use of this
>>aluminum really is uranium centrifuges. She said that on television. And
>>that's just a lie."
>>
>>
>>LIE #2: "The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently
>>sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa." - President Bush,
>>Jan.28, 2003, in the State of the Union address.
>>
>>
>>FACT: This whopper was based on a document that the White House already
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> knew
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>>to be a forgery thanks to the CIA. Sold to Italian intelligence by some
>>hustler, the document carried the signature of an official who had been
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> out
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>>of office for 10 years and referenced a constitution that was no longer in
>>effect. The ex-ambassador who the CIA sent to check out the story is
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> pissed:
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>>"They knew the Niger story was a flat-out lie," he told the New Republic,
>>anonymously. "They [the White House] were unpersuasive about aluminum
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> tubes
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>>and added this to make their case more strongly."
>>
>>
>>LIE #3: "We believe [Saddam] has, in fact, reconstituted nuclear
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> weapons." -
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>>Vice President Cheney on March 16, 2003 on "Meet the Press."
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>>
>>FACT: There was and is absolutely zero basis for this statement. CIA
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> reports
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>>up through 2002 showed no evidence of an Iraqi nuclear weapons program.
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>>
>>LIE #4: "[The CIA possesses] solid reporting of senior-level contacts
>>between Iraq and al-Qaeda going back a decade." - CIA Director George
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> Tenet
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>>in a written statement released Oct. 7, 2002 and echoed in that evening's
>>speech by President Bush.
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>>
>>FACT: Intelligence agencies knew of tentative contacts between Saddam and
>>al-Qaeda in the early '90s, but found no proof of a continuing
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> relationship.
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>>In other words, by tweaking language, Tenet and Bush spun the
>>intelligence180 degrees to say exactly the opposite of what it suggested.
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>>
>>LIE #5: "We've learned that Iraq has trained al-Qaeda members in
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> bomb-making
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>>and poisons and deadly gases ... Alliance with terrorists could allow the
>>Iraqi regime to attack America without leaving any fingerprints." -
>>President Bush, Oct. 7.
>>
>>
>>FACT: No evidence of this has ever been leaked or produced. Colin Powell
>>told the U.N. this alleged training took place in a camp in northern Iraq.
>>To his great embarrassment, the area he indicated was later revealed to be
>>outside Iraq's control and patrolled by Allied war planes.
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>>
>>LIE #6: "We have also discovered through intelligence that Iraq has a
>>growing fleet of manned and unmanned aerial vehicles that could be used to
>>disperse chemical or biological weapons across broad areas. We are
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> concerned
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>>that Iraq is exploring ways of using these UAVs [unmanned aerial vehicles]
>>for missions targeting the United States." - President Bush, Oct. 7.
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>>
>>FACT: Said drones can't fly more than 300 miles, and Iraq is 6000 miles
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> from
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>>the U.S. coastline. Furthermore, Iraq's drone-building program wasn't much
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>>more advanced than your average model plane enthusiast. And isn't a
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> "manned
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>>aerial vehicle" just a scary way to say "plane"?
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>>LIE #7: "We have seen intelligence over many months that they have
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> chemical
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>>and biological weapons, and that they have dispersed them and that they're
>>weaponized and that, in one case at least, the command and control
>>arrangements have been established." - President Bush, Feb. 8, 2003, in a
>>national radio address.
>>
>>
>>FACT: Despite a massive nationwide search by U.S. and British forces,
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> there
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>>are no signs, traces or examples of chemical weapons being deployed in the
>>field, or anywhere else during the war.
>>
>>
>>LIE #8: "Our conservative estimate is that Iraq today has a stockpile of
>>between 100 and 500 tons of chemical weapons agent. That is enough to fill
>>16,000 battlefield rockets." - Secretary of State Colin Powell, Feb. 5
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> 2003,
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>>in remarks to the UN Security Council.
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>>
>>FACT: Putting aside the glaring fact that not one drop of this massive
>>stockpile has been found, as previously reported on AlterNet our own
>>intelligence reports show that these stocks - if they existed - were well
>>past their use-by date and therefore useless as weapon fodder.
>>
>>
>>LIE #9: "We know where [Iraq's WMD] are. They're in the area around Tikrit
>>and Baghdad and east, west, south, and north somewhat." - Secretary of
>>Defense Donald Rumsfeld, March 30, 2003, in statements to the press.
>>
>>
>>FACT: Needless to say, no such weapons were found, not to the east, west,
>>south or north, somewhat or otherwise.
>>
>>
>>LIE #10: "Yes, we found a biological laboratory in Iraq which the UN
>>prohibited." - President Bush in remarks in Poland, published
>>internationally June 1, 2003.
>>
>>
>>FACT: This was reference to the discovery of two modified truck trailers
>>that the CIA claimed were are potential mobile biological weapons lab. But
>>British and American experts - including the State Department's
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> intelligence
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>>wing in a report released this week - have since declared this to be
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> untrue.
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>>According to the British, and much to Prime Minister Tony Blair's
>>embarrassment, the trailers are actually exactly what Iraq said they were,
>>facilities to fill weather balloons, sold to them by the British
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> themselves.
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>>
>>So, months after the war, we are once again where we started - with plenty
>>of rhetoric and absolutely no proof of this "grave danger" for which O.J.
>>Smith died. The Bush administration is now scrambling to place the blame
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> for
>
>>its lies on faulty intelligence, when in fact the intelligence was fine,
>
> it
>
>>was their abuse of it which was "faulty."
>>
>>
>>Rather than apologize for leading us to a preemptive war based on
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> impossibly
>
>>faulty or shamelessly distorted "intelligence" or offering his
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> resignation,
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>>our sly madman in the White House is starting to sound more like that
>
> other
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>>O.J. Like the man who cheerfully played golf while promising to pursue
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> "the
>
>>real killers," Bush is now vowing to search for "the true extent of Saddam
>>Hussein's weapons programs, no matter how long it takes."
>>
>>
>>On the terrible day of the 9/11 attacks, five hours after a hijacked plane
>>slammed into the Pentagon, retired Gen. Wesley Clark received a strange
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> call
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>>from someone (he didn't name names) representing the White House position:
>>"I was on CNN, and I got a call at my home saying, 'You got to say this is
>>connected. This is state-sponsored terrorism. This has to be connected to
>>Saddam Hussein,'" Clark told Meet the Press anchor Tim Russert. "I said,
>>'But - I'm willing to say it, but what's your evidence?' And I never got
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> any
>
>>evidence.'"
>>
>>
>>And neither did we.
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On Mon, 30 Jun 2003 17:48:46 +1000, "Roo Boy Roberts"
<rooboy@no-spam> wrote:
>I'll take a lying American over any type of Muslim any time.
>
>At least I feel like I belong to the same species.
>
>Unlike the backward thinking sand dwellers who drop to their knees and pray
>to some evil version of Mother Goose, 5 times per day!
>
>. . . and thinks that causing misery & heartache for innocent people in this
>life will guarantee a place in Heaven in the next.
If you that's bad take a look at the unspeakably conspiratorial and
murderous history of the Catholic Church in Europe and think again
about what you have just written.