NZ POLITICS 48 RE AUSTRALIANS THE MOST SPIED ON PEOPLE IN THE WESTERN WORLD
From: "Cig" (cigarettes@no-spam)
Subject: Re: AUSTRALIANS : the most spied on people in the Western world !
Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2003 07:27:36 GMT


>
> Well...they are descendants of criminals.
> heh >
No.
Most of today's Australians escape to Australia expecting better life because they were told lies about living in Australia. Most of them have no return possibilities. Watch the movie "Death End Drive-In" undoubtedly the best Australian movie ever telling the truth. Australians are prisoners in own country.

Yes.
You are right. Politicians and judges are British so they are descendants of criminals and they act like that.









From: "ScRoK" (trigarti@no-spam)
Subject: Re: AUSTRALIANS : the most spied on people in the Western world !
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 18:18:01 +0800

funny i thought it was the british
doesnt the average pom get filmed on cctv 55 times a day
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Cig wrote in message <3f0137e7$1@no-spam>...
>
>>
>> Well...they are descendants of criminals.
>> heh >>
>No.
>Most of today's Australians escape to Australia expecting better life >because they were told lies about living in Australia. Most of them have no >return possibilities. Watch the movie "Death End Drive-In" undoubtedly the >best Australian movie ever telling the truth. Australians are prisoners in >own country.
>
>Yes.
>You are right. Politicians and judges are British so they are descendants of >criminals and they act like that.
>
>


From: Sal Nevers (s1.nevers@no-spam)
Subject: Re: AUSTRALIANS : the most spied on people in the Western world !
Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2003 07:33:50 -0400

AUSTRALIANS : the most spied on people in the Western world !

G-day
Yea sure! We watch you all the time Through our inter-stellar space telescope.

Canada Cheers

From: thomandpam@no-spam (Thom)
Subject: Re: AUSTRALIANS : the most spied on people in the Western world !
Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2003 00:11:10 GMT

On Tue, 01 Jul 2003 07:27:36 GMT, "Cig" <cigarettes@no-spam>
wrote:

>
>>
>> Well...they are descendants of criminals.
>> heh >>
>No.
>Most of today's Australians escape to Australia expecting better life >because they were told lies about living in Australia. Most of them have no >return possibilities. Watch the movie "Death End Drive-In" undoubtedly the >best Australian movie ever telling the truth. Australians are prisoners in >own country.

Hate to tell you this mate but as an immigrant (from America) I find Australia to be a far better place to live, do not want to go back even though I'm living under Jackboot Johnny Howard and his goose stepping government. (on this week's menu is gun confiscation).

Remember that the govt. figures show there are 26 yanks coming here for everyone going north and half of those come back where as 1.5
yanks go home.

THOM >
>Yes.
>You are right. Politicians and judges are British so they are descendants of >criminals and they act like that.
>
>


Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2003 05:01:04 GMT
From: "Benjamina" (anonymous@no-spam)
Subject: Re: AUSTRALIANS : the most spied on people in the Western world !

I always thought that Americans had a bit more freedom than Australians...for example, an American wouldn't get their door kicked down for keeping a pet bearded dragon...and that an American had the right to defend themselves using the most effective way - by carry concealed firearms...

Maybe I was wrong...If anyone can correct me I'd appreciate it, but I tend to think that you have more freedom in the US than you do here. Welfare wise, Australia is more generous, that's for sure...but Australia doesn't seem to be as generous on freedom and personal responsibility as the US does...but then again with the litigation lunacy and "war on [something]"
phenomenon which is currently overrunning the US, I won't be surprised if the US citizens are threatened with the loss of all their freedoms.

Fortunately, for the Americans, if someone dares to take their freedom away,
they can protect their freedom with extreme violence and strike fear into the tyrants with the sound of gunfire...Australians cannot do that for they are unarmed and cannot resist...so whose better off in the end?

Those who can resist the loss of freedom will be better off in the end. In this case it's the Americans. If Australians lose their freedom Australia will become a police state and probably wind up like China or Russia or one of those other shitholes that you hear about.

If American "governments" keep up with their gun control agenda, then America will end up going down the same path...only violence and sheer sheer violence will protect the people's freedom. Nothing but violence. And I'm sorry to say it. But you can get a lot further with a kind word and a GUN than a kind word alone. The key difference is when you've got a gun you can blow the holy fucking bejesus out of anyone who tries to mess with you, if that last resort must be. If a kind word is all you have to offer, then all I can say is...good fucking luck!

I would absolutely love to see immense fear being struck into those evil tyrants who would take our country and freedoms away...I would love to watch them scream and cry and beg for mercy as they are threatened with serious bodily harm or death by those protecting our freedoms and our way of life.
Perhaps arming the general population with high-powered arms will ensure that the tyrants stay on their side of the table - if they dare touch us,
bang bang bang bang bang bang!

Cheers,
Benjamin.

> Hate to tell you this mate but as an immigrant (from America) I find > Australia to be a far better place to live, do not want to go back > even though I'm living under Jackboot Johnny Howard and his goose > stepping government. (on this week's menu is gun confiscation).
>
> Remember that the govt. figures show there are 26 yanks coming here > for everyone going north and half of those come back where as 1.5
> yanks go home.


From: Redbaiter (don't@no-spam)
Subject: Re: AUSTRALIANS : the most spied on people in the Western world !
Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 17:23:55 +1200

Benjamina says...
> > I would absolutely love to see immense fear being struck into those evil > tyrants who would take our country and freedoms away...I would love to watch > them scream and cry and beg for mercy as they are threatened with serious > bodily harm or death by those protecting our freedoms and our way of life.
> Perhaps arming the general population with high-powered arms will ensure > that the tyrants stay on their side of the table - if they dare touch us,
> bang bang bang bang bang bang!
> Much of what you say is quite correct. It helps if you look at things from the right perspective, and I hope I am able to do that.

Communists have always had world domination as their ultimate objective. This is because they believe that Communism cannot sustain itself unless the whole world is Communist.

Communism is networked world wide. There are Communists in every country, covertly and inch by inch working towards their ultimate goal, and their loyalty is not to their country, but to the world wide communist ideology. (even on these newsgroups)

This is roughly the thesis of Anne Coulter's new book, Treason, wherein she says the Democrats, these days heavily influenced and infiltrated by far left "socialists" are treasonists, because their loyalties are to global communism rather than to the US Constitution. A document they have pledged to uphold, yet its values are in direct contrast to the principles of the global socialist movement that has their real alliance.

Everything that is happening, gun control, liberalism, poor education, breakdown of moral codes is basically occurring because it is part of the socialist agenda. However the most critical event that is occurring is the fracturing of society into warring groups. This is a strategy most salient in NZ with the TOW scam, which has split the country like no other device could.

There is so much detail that could be spoken of in respect of this issue, however the main issue is that you need to think globally.
I don't have a lot of time for so called right wing political parties these days. They are all infiltrated by liberals and leftists and useful idiots to the point where they are virtually ineffective as a political force. Even the Republicans under Bush.
However, the global socialist network sees the Bush government as their biggest enemy, the biggest obstacle to their goal of a world wide socialism. If they can bring Bush down it is a massive psychological boost to them. If they fail it is a major setback.

That's why, even if you think Bush is a wimp or whatever, in terms of winning the global war against socialism, there is no alternative but to support him.

-- Redbaiter In the leftist's lexicon, the lowest of the low

From: "damnfine" (damnfine@no-spam)
Subject: Re: AUSTRALIANS : the most spied on people in the Western world !
Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 14:54:55 +0930

Redbaiter wrote:
> Communists have always had world domination as their ultimate > objective.

<snip>

Coulterites are fun fun FUN!

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/^\damnfine/^\
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From: "Redbater" (don't@no-spam)
Subject: Re: AUSTRALIANS : the most spied on people in the Western world !
Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2003 07:12:13 GMT

But if the whole world was communist together we could abandon all military spending - poverty could be ended. Why is that a bad thing?

--
--
Redbater In the leftist's lexicon, the slowest of the slow
"Redbaiter" <don't@no-spam> wrote in message news:3f02716b@no-spam > Benjamina says...
> >
> > I would absolutely love to see immense fear being struck into those evil > > tyrants who would take our country and freedoms away...I would love to watch > > them scream and cry and beg for mercy as they are threatened with serious > > bodily harm or death by those protecting our freedoms and our way of life.
> > Perhaps arming the general population with high-powered arms will ensure > > that the tyrants stay on their side of the table - if they dare touch us,
> > bang bang bang bang bang bang!
> >
> Much of what you say is quite correct. It helps if you look at > things from the right perspective, and I hope I am able to do > that.
>
> Communists have always had world domination as their ultimate > objective. This is because they believe that Communism cannot > sustain itself unless the whole world is Communist.
>
> Communism is networked world wide. There are Communists in every > country, covertly and inch by inch working towards their ultimate > goal, and their loyalty is not to their country, but to the world > wide communist ideology. (even on these newsgroups)
>
> This is roughly the thesis of Anne Coulter's new book, Treason,
> wherein she says the Democrats, these days heavily influenced and > infiltrated by far left "socialists" are treasonists, because > their loyalties are to global communism rather than to the US > Constitution. A document they have pledged to uphold, yet its > values are in direct contrast to the principles of the global > socialist movement that has their real alliance.
>
> Everything that is happening, gun control, liberalism, poor > education, breakdown of moral codes is basically occurring > because it is part of the socialist agenda. However the most > critical event that is occurring is the fracturing of society > into warring groups. This is a strategy most salient in NZ with > the TOW scam, which has split the country like no other device > could.
>
> There is so much detail that could be spoken of in respect of > this issue, however the main issue is that you need to think > globally.
>
> I don't have a lot of time for so called right wing political > parties these days. They are all infiltrated by liberals and > leftists and useful idiots to the point where they are virtually > ineffective as a political force. Even the Republicans under > Bush.
>
> However, the global socialist network sees the Bush government as > their biggest enemy, the biggest obstacle to their goal of a > world wide socialism. If they can bring Bush down it is a massive > psychological boost to them. If they fail it is a major setback.
>
> That's why, even if you think Bush is a wimp or whatever, in > terms of winning the global war against socialism, there is no > alternative but to support him.
>
>
> --
> Redbaiter > In the leftist's lexicon, the lowest of the low

From: dx0r (hehe@no-spam)
Subject: Re: AUSTRALIANS : the most spied on people in the Western world !
Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2003 19:02:52 +1000

On Wed, 02 Jul 2003 07:12:13 GMT, "Redbater" <don't@no-spam> wrote:

>But if the whole world was communist together we could abandon all military >spending - poverty could be ended. Why is that a bad thing?
>
>--

Ever heard of the Sino-Soviet conflicts?


Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2003 10:05:51 +0100
From: owend (owen_duffre@no-spam)
Subject: Re: AUSTRALIANS : the most spied on people in the Western world !

Redbater wrote:
> But if the whole world was communist together we could abandon all military > spending - poverty could be ended. Why is that a bad thing?
> > --
> --
> Redbater > In the leftist's lexicon, the slowest of the slow >
Communism doesn't seem to be a popular item any more. In any case, you'd doubtless end up with different flavours of communism, "asian communism", "african communism" etc, and, like the USSR and Chine, they might not exactly have unarmed borders.


From: "The stuffed gay dragon" (dragoon@no-spam)
Subject: Re: AUSTRALIANS : the most spied on people in the Western world !
Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 19:19:39 +1000

"Benjamina" <anonymous@no-spam> wrote in message news:7986b2b4fcbc0140bb5bc922809fd934@no-spam > I always thought that Americans had a bit more freedom than > Australians.

Wrong.

We dont live in with the fear of a nut case carrying a concealed weapon and shooting us when we go to the corner store.

Nor do we live in a country where the government can kick you door down and get away with it.

Nor do we have leader in the top job who didn't get there on an honest election result.

..for example, an American wouldn't get their door kicked down > for keeping a pet bearded dragon...and that an American had the right to > defend themselves using the most effective way - by carry concealed > firearms...
>
> Maybe I was wrong...If anyone can correct me I'd appreciate it, but I tend > to think that you have more freedom in the US than you do here. Welfare > wise, Australia is more generous, that's for sure...but Australia doesn't > seem to be as generous on freedom and personal responsibility as the US > does...but then again with the litigation lunacy and "war on [something]"
> phenomenon which is currently overrunning the US, I won't be surprised if > the US citizens are threatened with the loss of all their freedoms.
>
> Fortunately, for the Americans, if someone dares to take their freedom away,
> they can protect their freedom with extreme violence and strike fear into > the tyrants with the sound of gunfire...Australians cannot do that for they > are unarmed and cannot resist...so whose better off in the end?

We are, because we dont have to deal with things like the Washington Sniper or the Colombine Massacre etc etc
>
> Those who can resist the loss of freedom will be better off in the end. In > this case it's the Americans. If Australians lose their freedom Australia > will become a police state and probably wind up like China or Russia or one > of those other shitholes that you hear about.

Wow, are you ever stupid.

>
> If American "governments" keep up with their gun control agenda, then > America will end up going down the same path...only violence and sheer sheer > violence will protect the people's freedom. Nothing but violence. And I'm > sorry to say it. But you can get a lot further with a kind word and a GUN > than a kind word alone. The key difference is when you've got a gun you can > blow the holy fucking bejesus out of anyone who tries to mess with you, if > that last resort must be. If a kind word is all you have to offer, then all > I can say is...good fucking luck!
>
> I would absolutely love to see immense fear being struck into those evil > tyrants who would take our country and freedoms awayi
Easily done.

Ring the Whitehouse and arrange an appointment with your president.

...I would love to watch > them scream and cry and beg for mercy as they are threatened with serious > bodily harm or death by those protecting our freedoms and our way of life.

by way of life, do you how young American men and women are dying everyday in a foreign land while their leaders collect $4 million a day in big boozy luncheons?


From: thomandpam@no-spam (Thom)
Subject: Re: AUSTRALIANS : the most spied on people in the Western world !
Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2003 00:17:16 GMT

On Wed, 02 Jul 2003 05:01:04 GMT, "Benjamina"
<anonymous@no-spam> wrote:

>I always thought that Americans had a bit more freedom than >Australians...for example, an American wouldn't get their door kicked down >for keeping a pet bearded dragon...and that an American had the right to >defend themselves using the most effective way - by carry concealed >firearms...
Up until recently Australians were freer than Americans. Now we have Jackboot Johnny who started another great gun grab (the little weasel is afraid of assination) plus we have the new ASIO laws etc etc.
Still Australia is a far nicer place to live and safer too.
>
>Maybe I was wrong...If anyone can correct me I'd appreciate it, but I tend >to think that you have more freedom in the US than you do here. Welfare >wise, Australia is more generous, that's for sure...but Australia doesn't >seem to be as generous on freedom and personal responsibility as the US >does...

Please expand on the personal responsibility thing?

>but then again with the litigation lunacy and "war on [something]"
>phenomenon which is currently overrunning the US, I won't be surprised if >the US citizens are threatened with the loss of all their freedoms.
>
>Fortunately, for the Americans, if someone dares to take their freedom away,
>they can protect their freedom with extreme violence and strike fear into >the tyrants with the sound of gunfire...Australians cannot do that for they >are unarmed and cannot resist...so whose better off in the end?

Thats the whole idea of JB Johnny's gun grab. He wants to make Australians docile and defenceless so he and his right wing jackboots can ban unions etc etc.
>
>Those who can resist the loss of freedom will be better off in the end. In >this case it's the Americans. If Australians lose their freedom Australia >will become a police state and probably wind up like China or Russia or one >of those other shitholes that you hear about.

However when JBJ got in he did a gun grab and then tried to bust the Maritime Union thinking they couldn't resist and then found the union members were willing to face his thugs with dogs unarmed.

snip snip the rest.

The latest con game is that he wants the gun clubs to collect all the guns and they have told him to shove it up his right wing ass. The gun grab starts today and most I know will resist and buy their guns in freedom tubes in the garden.

THOM

From: thomandpam@no-spam (Thom)
Subject: Re: AUSTRALIANS : the most spied on people in the Western world !
Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2003 00:19:14 GMT

On Wed, 2 Jul 2003 17:23:55 +1200, Redbaiter <don't@no-spam> wrote:

>Benjamina says...
>> >> I would absolutely love to see immense fear being struck into those evil >> tyrants who would take our country and freedoms away...I would love to watch >> them scream and cry and beg for mercy as they are threatened with serious >> bodily harm or death by those protecting our freedoms and our way of life.
>> Perhaps arming the general population with high-powered arms will ensure >> that the tyrants stay on their side of the table - if they dare touch us,
>> bang bang bang bang bang bang!
>> >Much of what you say is quite correct. It helps if you look at >things from the right perspective, and I hope I am able to do >that.
>
>Communists have always had world domination as their ultimate >objective. This is because they believe that Communism cannot >sustain itself unless the whole world is Communist.

before you waffle on any further, are you aware of the fact PH John Howard is an exremem right wing capitalist??? Gun control is 99% a right wing thing except in the USA which has this thing about Kennedy.

THOM

From: thomandpam@no-spam (Thom)
Subject: Re: AUSTRALIANS : the most spied on people in the Western world !
Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2003 00:20:44 GMT

On Wed, 02 Jul 2003 10:05:51 +0100, owend <owen_duffre@no-spam>
wrote:

>
>
>Redbater wrote:
>> But if the whole world was communist together we could abandon all military >> spending - poverty could be ended. Why is that a bad thing?
>> >> --
>> --
>> Redbater >> In the leftist's lexicon, the slowest of the slow >> >
>Communism doesn't seem to be a popular item any more.

Nor, since the USSR went belly up, even around anymore. Its the right wing that causing the trouble now, such as AWOL Bush Vs Saddam.

THOM > In any case, you'd >doubtless end up with different flavours of communism, "asian >communism", "african communism" etc, and, like the USSR and Chine, they >might not exactly have unarmed borders.
>


From: "The stuffed gay dragon" (dragoon@no-spam)
Subject: Re: AUSTRALIANS : the most spied on people in the Western world !
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 10:40:37 +1000

"Thom" <thomandpam@no-spam> wrote in message news:3f037490.3856794@no-spam > On Wed, 02 Jul 2003 05:01:04 GMT, "Benjamina"
> <anonymous@no-spam> wrote:
>
> >I always thought that Americans had a bit more freedom than > >Australians...for example, an American wouldn't get their door kicked down > >for keeping a pet bearded dragon...and that an American had the right to > >defend themselves using the most effective way - by carry concealed > >firearms...
> Up until recently Australians were freer than Americans. Now we have > Jackboot Johnny who started another great gun grab (the little weasel > is afraid of assination)

no stupid, he wants to get the guns off the streets.

that takes guts.

> Thats the whole idea of JB Johnny's gun grab. He wants to make > Australians docile and defenceless so he and his right wing jackboots > can ban unions etc etc.

LOL! now that IS funny!

> The latest con game is that he wants the gun clubs to collect all the > guns and they have told him to shove it up his right wing ass. The > gun grab starts today and most I know will resist and buy their guns > in freedom tubes in the garden.

you can buy guns in you garden?

wow!


From: thomandpam@no-spam (Thom)
Subject: Re: AUSTRALIANS : the most spied on people in the Western world !
Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2003 23:35:30 GMT

On Thu, 3 Jul 2003 10:51:34 +1000, "The stuffed gay dragon"
<dragoon@no-spam> wrote:

>
>"Thom" <thomandpam@no-spam> wrote in message >news:3f0376ec.4460589@no-spam >> On Wed, 2 Jul 2003 19:19:39 +1000, "The stuffed gay dragon"
>> <dragoon@no-spam> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >"Benjamina" <anonymous@no-spam> wrote in message >> >news:7986b2b4fcbc0140bb5bc922809fd934@no-spam >> >> I always thought that Americans had a bit more freedom than >> >> Australians.
>> >
>> >Wrong.
>> >
>> >We dont live in with the fear of a nut case carrying a concealed weapon >and >> >shooting us when we go to the corner store.
>> >
>> well we do now more than ever.
>
>nonsense.
>
>please cite one example.

look at the line at the police station as Jackboot Johnny steals more and more of the peoples ability to protect themselves. Then look at the world and terrorism and the fact people should be arming themselves against these nut cases. Its called personal responsibility plus won't won't see pussy boy Howard running out to protect you.
>
>
>> Gun control means that only criminals >> have guns and they know it.
>
>and when was the last "criminal" you shot?

1980
>
>
>
>> After the Kennett/Howard gun grab crime >> shot up 14% the first month in my State and went to 24% within 6
>> months.
>
>gee, you got love how guys who are falt out reading the form guide are >suddenly transformed into statisticians overnight.

The people who have been victims of those crimes might want to hear you say such things.
>
>
>>
>> >Nor do we live in a country where the government can kick you door down >and >> >get away with it.
>>
>> Get Howard out and in jail where he, Reith and the rest of the crooks >> in the Liberal Party belong and things will be safe again.
>
>LOL!

True, I hear Howard stopped by Florida on his way to England to learn how to run the next election.
>
>hey man, i didnt think they gave you usenet access in the nuthouse
Why? Have Bush and Howard posted something??

THOM >
>
>


From: thomandpam@no-spam (Thom)
Subject: Re: AUSTRALIANS : the most spied on people in the Western world !
Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2003 23:38:55 GMT

On Thu, 3 Jul 2003 10:40:37 +1000, "The stuffed gay dragon"
<dragoon@no-spam> wrote:

>
>"Thom" <thomandpam@no-spam> wrote in message >news:3f037490.3856794@no-spam >> On Wed, 02 Jul 2003 05:01:04 GMT, "Benjamina"
>> <anonymous@no-spam> wrote:
>>
>> >I always thought that Americans had a bit more freedom than >> >Australians...for example, an American wouldn't get their door kicked >down >> >for keeping a pet bearded dragon...and that an American had the right to >> >defend themselves using the most effective way - by carry concealed >> >firearms...
>> Up until recently Australians were freer than Americans. Now we have >> Jackboot Johnny who started another great gun grab (the little weasel >> is afraid of assination)
>
>no stupid, he wants to get the guns off the streets.

Well I hate to tell you this but the only guns I see in the streets are in the possess of the police and the military. Why aren't they turning in their weapons???
>
>that takes guts.

Yah right and Jackboot Johnny is going door to door himself or is he having other people do his dirty work for him, like he and bush have young soldiers do their dirty work overseas. By the way I don't see any of Howards kids on the front lines or anyone of the front benchers kids there either. Of course you don't see any of these guys wearing medals on ANZAC Day either. Cowards and chicken hawks, the lot of them.

THOM >
>
>
>
>> Thats the whole idea of JB Johnny's gun grab. He wants to make >> Australians docile and defenceless so he and his right wing jackboots >> can ban unions etc etc.
>
>LOL! now that IS funny!
>
>
>> The latest con game is that he wants the gun clubs to collect all the >> guns and they have told him to shove it up his right wing ass. The >> gun grab starts today and most I know will resist and buy their guns >> in freedom tubes in the garden.
>
>you can buy guns in you garden?
>
>wow!
>
>
>
>


From: "The stuffed gay dragon" (dragoon@no-spam)
Subject: Re: AUSTRALIANS : the most spied on people in the Western world !
Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 12:20:27 +1000

"Thom" <thomandpam@no-spam> wrote in message news:3f04bcab.3681661@no-spam > On Thu, 3 Jul 2003 10:51:34 +1000, "The stuffed gay dragon"
> <dragoon@no-spam> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Thom" <thomandpam@no-spam> wrote in message > >news:3f0376ec.4460589@no-spam > >> On Wed, 2 Jul 2003 19:19:39 +1000, "The stuffed gay dragon"
> >> <dragoon@no-spam> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >"Benjamina" <anonymous@no-spam> wrote in message > >> >news:7986b2b4fcbc0140bb5bc922809fd934@no-spam > >> >> I always thought that Americans had a bit more freedom than > >> >> Australians.
> >> >
> >> >Wrong.
> >> >
> >> >We dont live in with the fear of a nut case carrying a concealed weapon > >and > >> >shooting us when we go to the corner store.
> >> >
> >> well we do now more than ever.
> >
> >nonsense.
> >
> >please cite one example.
>
> look at the line at the police station as Jackboot Johnny steals more > and more of the peoples ability to protect themselves.

ok, i looked at my local police station.

guess what?

nothing there, just some cops.

now, can you please cite a REAL example?

TIA
> Then look at > the world and terrorism and the fact people should be arming > themselves against these nut cases.

so .222 could have shot down those two airliners that flew into the twin towers?

> Its called personal > responsibility plus won't won't see pussy boy Howard running out to > protect you.

can you please re-type that in english this time?

> >
> >
> >> Gun control means that only criminals > >> have guns and they know it.
> >
> >and when was the last "criminal" you shot?
>
> 1980

LOL! and then you woke up.

> >
> >
> >
> >> After the Kennett/Howard gun grab crime > >> shot up 14% the first month in my State and went to 24% within 6
> >> months.
> >
> >gee, you got love how guys who are falt out reading the form guide are > >suddenly transformed into statisticians overnight.
>
> The people who have been victims of those crimes might want to hear > you say such things.

no problems, "bring them on".......:)


From: "The stuffed gay dragon" (dragoon@no-spam)
Subject: Re: AUSTRALIANS : the most spied on people in the Western world !
Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 12:22:34 +1000

"Thom" <thomandpam@no-spam> wrote in message news:3f04bdcc.3970646@no-spam > On Thu, 3 Jul 2003 10:40:37 +1000, "The stuffed gay dragon"
> <dragoon@no-spam> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Thom" <thomandpam@no-spam> wrote in message > >news:3f037490.3856794@no-spam > >> On Wed, 02 Jul 2003 05:01:04 GMT, "Benjamina"
> >> <anonymous@no-spam> wrote:
> >>
> >> >I always thought that Americans had a bit more freedom than > >> >Australians...for example, an American wouldn't get their door kicked > >down > >> >for keeping a pet bearded dragon...and that an American had the right to > >> >defend themselves using the most effective way - by carry concealed > >> >firearms...
> >> Up until recently Australians were freer than Americans. Now we have > >> Jackboot Johnny who started another great gun grab (the little weasel > >> is afraid of assination)
> >
> >no stupid, he wants to get the guns off the streets.
>
> Well I hate to tell you this but the only guns I see in the streets > are in the possess of the police and the military.

thanks for making my point.

>.Why aren't they > turning in their weapons???

because our society appoints and employs them to enforce the law and defend its citizens.

> >
> >that takes guts.
>
> Yah right and Jackboot Johnny is going door to door himself or is he > having other people do his dirty work for him, like he and bush have > young soldiers do their dirty work overseas.

ok man, lay off the bong.


From: thomandpam@no-spam (Thom)
Subject: Re: AUSTRALIANS : the most spied on people in the Western world !
Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2003 14:44:49 GMT

On Fri, 4 Jul 2003 12:20:27 +1000, "The stuffed gay dragon"
<dragoon@no-spam> wrote:

>
>"Thom" <thomandpam@no-spam> wrote in message >news:3f04bcab.3681661@no-spam >> On Thu, 3 Jul 2003 10:51:34 +1000, "The stuffed gay dragon"
>> <dragoon@no-spam> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >"Thom" <thomandpam@no-spam> wrote in message >> >news:3f0376ec.4460589@no-spam >> >> On Wed, 2 Jul 2003 19:19:39 +1000, "The stuffed gay dragon"
>> >> <dragoon@no-spam> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >"Benjamina" <anonymous@no-spam> wrote in message >> >> >news:7986b2b4fcbc0140bb5bc922809fd934@no-spam >> >> >> I always thought that Americans had a bit more freedom than >> >> >> Australians.
>> >> >
>> >> >Wrong.
>> >> >
>> >> >We dont live in with the fear of a nut case carrying a concealed >weapon >> >and >> >> >shooting us when we go to the corner store.
>> >> >
>> >> well we do now more than ever.
>> >
>> >nonsense.
>> >
>> >please cite one example.
>>
>> look at the line at the police station as Jackboot Johnny steals more >> and more of the peoples ability to protect themselves.
>
>ok, i looked at my local police station.
>
>guess what?
>
>nothing there, just some cops.
>
>now, can you please cite a REAL example?

Gee could it be that Australians have had enough of gun control and are refusing to be disarmed??? Is there a sudden run on Freedom Tubes at Bunnings?
>
>TIA >
>> Then look at >> the world and terrorism and the fact people should be arming >> themselves against these nut cases.
>
>so .222 could have shot down those two airliners that flew into the twin >towers?
>
>
>> Its called personal >> responsibility plus won't won't see pussy boy Howard running out to >> protect you.
>
>can you please re-type that in english this time?

Certainly...
1) Howard is a coward 2) He never served, he is a chicken hawk 3) His sons will never serve just like all the Brush brats will never serve 4) he sends other men's sons to fight and die.
5) if the great gun grab is successful; and millions more tax payers'
money is wasted, you will not see the little lieing troll protecting you.... let us not forget "there will never ever be a GST" and his promise to have a debate before sending troops to the Gulf lies.
>
>
>> >
>> >
>> >> Gun control means that only criminals >> >> have guns and they know it.
>> >
>> >and when was the last "criminal" you shot?
>>
>> 1980
>
>LOL! and then you woke up.

No, it was in Colorado and it was with a bow. I caught some assholes stealing gas from my car and they fled with one of my arrows in their car.
>
>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >> After the Kennett/Howard gun grab crime >> >> shot up 14% the first month in my State and went to 24% within 6
>> >> months.
>> >
>> >gee, you got love how guys who are falt out reading the form guide are >> >suddenly transformed into statisticians overnight.
>>
>> The people who have been victims of those crimes might want to hear >> you say such things.
>
>
>no problems, "bring them on".......:)

yes the chickenhawks are quite happy for their troops to be attacked and killed to prove how macho they are.

By the way did you see in the paper that another one of Kennettes Privatizations has been a failure and the American company that bought part of the SECV sold it off for a $1.7 loss? Funny that when the government ran it they made between $140 and 190 million a year and employed 25,000 people but private enterprise lays off half that and looses over 700 million a year. Proof positive that socialism works better than greed based capitalism.

THOM >
>
>


From: "The stuffed gay dragon" (dragoon@no-spam)
Subject: Re: AUSTRALIANS : the most spied on people in the Western world !
Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2003 07:45:52 +1000

"Thom" <thomandpam@no-spam> wrote in message news:3f0590e8.25431437@no-spam > On Fri, 4 Jul 2003 12:20:27 +1000, "The stuffed gay dragon"
> <dragoon@no-spam> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Thom" <thomandpam@no-spam> wrote in message > >news:3f04bcab.3681661@no-spam > >> On Thu, 3 Jul 2003 10:51:34 +1000, "The stuffed gay dragon"
> >> <dragoon@no-spam> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >"Thom" <thomandpam@no-spam> wrote in message > >> >news:3f0376ec.4460589@no-spam > >> >> On Wed, 2 Jul 2003 19:19:39 +1000, "The stuffed gay dragon"
> >> >> <dragoon@no-spam> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >"Benjamina" <anonymous@no-spam> wrote in message > >> >> >news:7986b2b4fcbc0140bb5bc922809fd934@no-spam > >> >> >> I always thought that Americans had a bit more freedom than > >> >> >> Australians.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Wrong.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >We dont live in with the fear of a nut case carrying a concealed > >weapon > >> >and > >> >> >shooting us when we go to the corner store.
> >> >> >
> >> >> well we do now more than ever.
> >> >
> >> >nonsense.
> >> >
> >> >please cite one example.
> >>
> >> look at the line at the police station as Jackboot Johnny steals more > >> and more of the peoples ability to protect themselves.
> >
> >ok, i looked at my local police station.
> >
> >guess what?
> >
> >nothing there, just some cops.
> >
> >now, can you please cite a REAL example?
>
> Gee could it be that Australians have had enough of gun control and > are refusing to be disarmed???

no.

its more liklely you're just another delusional usenet idiot.


From: ZekeGregory@no-spam (Gregory Shearman)
Subject: Re: AUSTRALIANS : the most spied on people in the Western world !
Date: 5 Jul 2003 01:12:01 GMT

On Fri, 4 Jul 2003 12:20:27 +1000, The stuffed gay dragon wrote:
>>
>> look at the line at the police station as Jackboot Johnny steals more >> and more of the peoples ability to protect themselves.
>
>ok, i looked at my local police station.
>
>guess what?
>
>nothing there, just some cops.

Gee, you are lucky. We don't even have cops at our station.
Haven't had any for years....
--
Regards,

Gregory.

"Ding-a-Ding Dang, My Dang-a-Long Ling Long."

From: thomandpam@no-spam (Thom)
Subject: Re: AUSTRALIANS : the most spied on people in the Western world !
Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2003 01:14:36 GMT

On Sat, 5 Jul 2003 07:45:52 +1000, "The stuffed gay dragon"
<dragoon@no-spam> wrote:

>
>"Thom" <thomandpam@no-spam> wrote in message >news:3f0590e8.25431437@no-spam >> On Fri, 4 Jul 2003 12:20:27 +1000, "The stuffed gay dragon"
>> <dragoon@no-spam> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >"Thom" <thomandpam@no-spam> wrote in message >> >news:3f04bcab.3681661@no-spam >> >> On Thu, 3 Jul 2003 10:51:34 +1000, "The stuffed gay dragon"
>> >> <dragoon@no-spam> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >"Thom" <thomandpam@no-spam> wrote in message >> >> >news:3f0376ec.4460589@no-spam >> >> >> On Wed, 2 Jul 2003 19:19:39 +1000, "The stuffed gay dragon"
>> >> >> <dragoon@no-spam> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >"Benjamina" <anonymous@no-spam> wrote in message >> >> >> >news:7986b2b4fcbc0140bb5bc922809fd934@no-spam >> >> >> >> I always thought that Americans had a bit more freedom than >> >> >> >> Australians.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Wrong.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >We dont live in with the fear of a nut case carrying a concealed >> >weapon >> >> >and >> >> >> >shooting us when we go to the corner store.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> well we do now more than ever.
>> >> >
>> >> >nonsense.
>> >> >
>> >> >please cite one example.
>> >>
>> >> look at the line at the police station as Jackboot Johnny steals more >> >> and more of the peoples ability to protect themselves.
>> >
>> >ok, i looked at my local police station.
>> >
>> >guess what?
>> >
>> >nothing there, just some cops.
>> >
>> >now, can you please cite a REAL example?
>>
>> Gee could it be that Australians have had enough of gun control and >> are refusing to be disarmed???
>
>no.
>
>its more liklely you're just another delusional usenet idiot.

If you want dellusional, go to Canberra and the Lodge. We have this little fool who thinks George Bush is god, that we're going to get a fair trade deal from Bush, that everyone with a gun is out to get him (well they are now) and that war is good and things like National Health and public transport are bad.

he also lives in the 19th century, wastes millions on his personal trips to Sydney in his new 737 flying palace because he thinks the Lodge isn't good enough for him and believes that working people who organize are doing so to personally hurt him and his rich mates.

He is also dellussional enough to think that he got all the guns the first time when in fact he got 15% if he'se lucky and he will get a similar amount this time.

FREE MEN OWN GUNS! Slaves, like Howard wants us to be, don't and I agree with the thing by Ben Franklin (was it franklin?) that said anyone who will give up freedom for security deserves neither!

THOM >
>