ONT POLITICS 25 RE HOW MUCH TAXES IS FAIR
From: (nshinede@no-spam)
Subject: Re: How much taxes is fair?
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 18:27:25 GMT


Don't worry, the goat is our secretary! His primary job is policing our spelling.

Since he has no original ideas, no logic, no facts, he is really quite harmless.
"Mountain Goat" <rmgoatNO@no-spam> wrote in message news:qpftev059g0a343om44gm2diuu42t88mo2@no-spam > On 16 Jun 2003 14:49:38 -0700, david_l_simpson@no-spam (Dave > Simpson) wrote:
>
> >Bit Head wrote:
> >
> >> Let's see about this.
> >> Carrick, tell us what you think I should be contriuting in terms of > >> income. 25%? 35%? 50%?
> >>
> >> At what point do taxes become excessive?
> >
> > If you have any money to spare for other than politically correct > >and approved expenditures, taxes are too low. (* grin *)
> >
> > If J.C. says it depends on how much you have, he's little more than > >a thief.
> >
> >
> > Dave Smipson >
> Another learned right wing crackpot. He can't even spell his own name > correctly !


From: John Carrick (jcarr@no-spam)
Subject: Re: How much taxes is fair?
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 19:47:53 GMT

On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 18:21:58 GMT, Good Guy <GoodGuysFinishFirst@no-spam> wrote:

>John Carrick wrote:

>> We remit taxes to governments at different levels so that they can >> carry out various activities on our behalf.

>> You see, most of appreciate having roads, police and fire departments,
>> schools, hospitals, air traffic control...

>Most people don't have a problem with paying taxes to pay for these things.

No doubt, but if you took the time to read the post to which I was replying, you saw that it equated all taxation with *slavery*.

He was saying that anyone who agreed to be taxed was volunteering to be enslaved.

And that is certainly anarchistic nonsense.

>...and the thousands of other things offered by government, that permit us to live productive lives.

>
>It is these 'thousands' of things that people don't like.

You don't like government providing services that help you to make your life more productive?

How very strange.

I think you meant to say something else, didn't you?


From: Good Guy (GoodGuysFinishFirst@no-spam)
Subject: Re: How much taxes is fair?
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 22:39:51 GMT

John Carrick wrote:
> On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 18:21:58 GMT, Good Guy > <GoodGuysFinishFirst@no-spam> wrote:
> > >>John Carrick wrote:
> > >>>We remit taxes to governments at different levels so that they can >>>carry out various activities on our behalf.
>>
> >>>You see, most of appreciate having roads, police and fire departments,
>>>schools, hospitals, air traffic control...
>>
> >>Most people don't have a problem with paying taxes to pay for these things.
> > > No doubt, but if you took the time to read the post to which I was > replying, you saw that it equated all taxation with *slavery*.
> > He was saying that anyone who agreed to be taxed was volunteering to > be enslaved.
> > And that is certainly anarchistic nonsense.
> > >>...and the thousands of other things offered by government, that permit us to live productive lives.

>>
>>It is these 'thousands' of things that people don't like.
> > > You don't like government providing services that help you to make > your life more productive?
> > How very strange.
> > I think you meant to say something else, didn't you?

No, that is what I meant. I don't need the government to do everything for me.

Things like the metric system, bilingualism, multiculturalism the CBC, etc. don't do anything for making my life more productive.

These thousands of things that the government is doing is usually focused on some small interest group.

Todder

From: "Tickle Mi" (ticklish@no-spam)
Subject: Re: How much taxes is fair?
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 22:55:19 GMT

"John Carrick" <jcarr@no-spam> wrote in message news:r6m8hvk9qcpuqpp2kdtgjbade6egp4ue6f@no-spam > On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 18:21:58 GMT, Good Guy > <GoodGuysFinishFirst@no-spam> wrote:
>
> >John Carrick wrote:
>
> >> We remit taxes to governments at different levels so that they can > >> carry out various activities on our behalf.
>
> >> You see, most of appreciate having roads, police and fire departments,
> >> schools, hospitals, air traffic control...
>
> >Most people don't have a problem with paying taxes to pay for these things.
>
> No doubt, but if you took the time to read the post to which I was > replying, you saw that it equated all taxation with *slavery*.
>
> He was saying that anyone who agreed to be taxed was volunteering to > be enslaved.
>
> And that is certainly anarchistic nonsense.
>
> >...and the thousands of other things offered by government, that permit us to live productive lives.
> >
> >It is these 'thousands' of things that people don't like.
>
> You don't like government providing services that help you to make > your life more productive?

I think you misunderstood the man. He said he does not have a problem paying for those things. In other words, he does not need to be forced to pay.
There is no need to threaten him in federal court, he wants to have the services and will pay.

> How very strange.

Yes, you are very strange old bird.

> I think you meant to say something else, didn't you?

He did say something else. You need to sharpen your reading skills and learn to stop seeing 'neo-cons' behind every bush.


From: aztecsrnus@no-spam (KenB)
Subject: Re: How much taxes is fair?
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 10:44:29 GMT

In article <rD%Qa.438227$3C2.11951727@no-spam>, "Tickle Mi" <ticklish@no-spam> wrote:


>Yes, you are very strange old bird.
>
>> I think you meant to say something else, didn't you?
>
>He did say something else. You need to sharpen your reading skills and learn >to stop seeing 'neo-cons' behind every bush.

Anyone who "knows" John via these means know he is quite insane. He covers his
own mediocrity by highlighting spelling faults and delving into the ad hominum. He attempts to make himself appear as a kind and generous person by mentioning his charitable donations all the while failing to realize that he does that of his own volition, while criticizing those who argue that is exactly the choice that all who wish to help should have, vice the imposed "help" implemented via the various taxes and levies under which many of the middle class find their own quality of life suffering. He is an old man who reaped the benefits of lower taxation, lower property values and fairly stable
employment of the 60's and 70's to make himself comfortable while attempting to chastize those of us working now to pay for his utopia, and the debt incurred in the support of the security he now enjoys. He is a hypocrite and, above all, among the most dangerous of the selfish - one who doesn't think that he is. He is sad and pathetic and should be sympathized, not hated, for the shallow and selfish person that he is.

Ken >
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From: "labatyd" (gerald.c1@no-spam)
Subject: Re: How much taxes is fair?
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 12:04:22 -0600

"KenB" <aztecsrnus@no-spam> wrote in message news:21aRa.3617$eP6.556601@no-spam > In article <rD%Qa.438227$3C2.11951727@no-spam>, "Tickle Mi"
<ticklish@no-spam> wrote:
>
> >Yes, you are very strange old bird.
> >
> >> I think you meant to say something else, didn't you?
> >
> >He did say something else. You need to sharpen your reading skills and learn > >to stop seeing 'neo-cons' behind every bush.
>
> Anyone who "knows" John via these means know he is quite insane. He covers his >
> own mediocrity by highlighting spelling faults and delving into the ad > hominum. He attempts to make himself appear as a kind and generous person by > mentioning his charitable donations all the while failing to realize that he > does that of his own volition, while criticizing those who argue that is > exactly the choice that all who wish to help should have, vice the imposed > "help" implemented via the various taxes and levies under which many of the > middle class find their own quality of life suffering. He is an old man who > reaped the benefits of lower taxation, lower property values and fairly stable >
> employment of the 60's and 70's to make himself comfortable while attempting > to chastize those of us working now to pay for his utopia, and the debt > incurred in the support of the security he now enjoys. He is a hypocrite and,
> above all, among the most dangerous of the selfish - one who doesn't think > that he is. He is sad and pathetic and should be sympathized, not hated,
for > the shallow and selfish person that he is.
>
> Ken > >

Carrick comes to mind.

It is the business of little minds to shrink.
-- Carl Sandburg