I'm making a site stats script and I'm trying to figure out how an Opera
string is built, specifically looking at the version number. Do most of the
unedited user agent strings have Opera x.x in them? Or is it Opera/x.x? Is
this at the end? Maybe giving me some samples would help more. (I know, lots
of requests, sorry).
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It is said, on Fri, 11 Jul 2003 16:28:04 GMT Michael Wilcox spoke the
words:
> I'm making a site stats script and I'm trying to figure out how an Opera
> string is built, specifically looking at the version number. Do most of
> the
> unedited user agent strings have Opera x.x in them? Or is it Opera/x.x?
> Is
> this at the end? Maybe giving me some samples would help more. (I know,
> lots
> of requests, sorry).
For 7.20 on Windows:
When IDing normally, Opera reports:
User-Agent: Opera/7.20 (Windows NT 5.1; U) [en]
When IDing as MSIE:
User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1) Opera 7.20
[en]
When IDing as Mozilla 5:
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; U) Opera 7.20 [en]
Summarizing, the version always follows the word Opera -- with a slash when
IDing normally, and with a space as seperator when pretending to be Mozilla
or MSIE. (note that MSIE's UA string itself is a lie that it is a version
of Mozilla)
PS: your signature delimiter is wrong, it should be dash-dash-space, not
dash-dash
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Jor
Jor <darkelf-at-operamail-dot-com@no-spam> wrote:
> Summarizing, the version always follows the word Opera -- with a
> slash when IDing normally, and with a space as seperator when
> pretending to be Mozilla or MSIE. (note that MSIE's UA string itself
> is a lie that it is a version of Mozilla)
Thanks much, that helped :-)
> PS: your signature delimiter is wrong, it should be dash-dash-space,
> not dash-dash
It is dash dash space. Copy it into notepad and see.
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It is said, on Fri, 11 Jul 2003 17:12:06 GMT Michael Wilcox spoke the
words:
> It is dash dash space. Copy it into notepad and see.
Well, let me put it this way -- the post received does not include the
space. So I only get the dashes ☺
But that's a known bug with your user agent (Outlook Express).
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Jor
Jor <darkelf-at-operamail-dot-com@no-spam> wrote:
> It is said, on Fri, 11 Jul 2003 17:12:06 GMT Michael Wilcox spoke the
> words:
>
>> It is dash dash space. Copy it into notepad and see.
>
> Well, let me put it this way -- the post received does not include the
> space. So I only get the dashes ?
> But that's a known bug with your user agent (Outlook Express).
Well that's sure dumb of OE. Sorry bout that. Now, how did you get that
smilie face?
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It is said, on Fri, 11 Jul 2003 17:34:45 GMT Michael Wilcox spoke the
words:
> Well that's sure dumb of OE. Sorry bout that. Now, how did you get that
> smilie face?
Seen at Hixie's natural log (1). I copied it as a Note for use elsewhere ☺
It's Unicode char 263A (hex) [the Miscellaneous Symbols range], so you can
easily call it with ☺
Now excuse me, I'm going to create a Notes collection of funny Unicode
chars ✌
1: <URL:http://ln.hixie.ch/?start=1057498349&count=1>
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Jor
Somebody claiming to be "Michael Wilcox" <mjwilcoCANTHAVESPAM@no-spam>
wrote in news:beFPa.95703$Io.8243687@no-spam
>I am using the QuoteFix, and I thought I had changed this. *sigh*
Better to change the email utility you use, of course. :-)
ObOpera: Of course, if you switch to Opera as your emailer, you won't be
able to compose HTML email. No comments on whether this is A Good Thing
or A Bad Thing, as I don't feel like starting *that* flame war again. :-)
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Ted S. wrote:
> "Michael Wilcox" wrote
>
[the well-known OE vs sig-sep problem]
> >I am using the QuoteFix, and I thought I had changed this. *sigh*
>
> Better to change the email utility you use, of course. :-)
>
But what good would that do for his Usenet posts?
Regards,
Wimjan (using Pegasus Mail for e-mail but thinks that's kind of
irrelevant info in this discussion)
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Somebody claiming to be news@no-spam (Wimjan) wrote in
news:MPG.19796c1c7b1cb50e98a26b@no-spam
>
>Ted S. wrote:
>>"Michael Wilcox" wrote
>>
>[the well-known OE vs sig-sep problem]
>
>>>I am using the QuoteFix, and I thought I had changed this. *sigh*
>>
>>Better to change the email utility you use, of course. :-)
>>
>But what good would that do for his Usenet posts?
I *did* mention M2 later in my post; M2 can handle Usenet. And since
Usenet shuns HTML posting, M2 would be good for this. ;-)
But you're right that I was careless in my response.
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