OR POLITICS 35 RE THE UNITED NATIONS
From: Bob Tiernan (zulu.pacifier.com@no-spam)
Subject: Re: The United Nations
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 23:53:02 -0700


Thomas wrote:

> Not to mention that history abounds with treaties and demands by the > indigenous Native Americans from Oregon to Massachusetts laying claim,
> and demanding the return of lands that were in fact, "stolen" from > them.

Who gets the Black Hills, the Sioux, or the tribe they stole it from?

Bob t












From: "alohacyberian" (alohacyberian@no-spam)
Subject: Re: The United Nations
Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2003 07:18:41 GMT

"Thomas" <mauicop@no-spam> wrote in message news:7gj1gvgolpo78ucah2guosvbbpju18nsrs@no-spam > On Sun, 29 Jun 2003 20:49:18 -0700, Bill Shatzer > <bshatzer@no-spam> wrote:
> >On Sun, 29 Jun 2003, Baxter wrote:
> >> "nobody" <nobody@no-spam> wrote in message > >> news:nobody-2426E6.22122528062003@no-spam > >> > In article <vfomff1hu2u5b6@no-spam>,
> >> > "Baxter" <lbax01.spaminator@no-spam> wrote:
> >> Really? Do point to what tribe is clamoring for Portland to be turned over > >> to them (Casinos don't count).
> >
> >No, but there are several tribes currently laying claim to about > >two-thirds of New York State. Though I 'spect they'd be happy > >to take the money rather than the land.
>
> Not to mention that history abounds with treaties and demands by the > indigenous Native Americans from Oregon to Massachusetts laying claim,
> and demanding the return of lands that were in fact, "stolen" from > them. The fact that even at this date many of those claims were never > even addressed tends to make them technically "current".
>

You ask Baxter about tribes demanding Portland and he talks about New York.
Typical evasion. So when is Baxter giving HIS land back to Native Americans?
KM -- (-:alohacyberian:-) At my website there are 3000 live cameras or visit NASA, play games, read jokes, send greeting cards & connect to CNN news, NBA, the White House, Academy Awards or learn all about Hawaii, Israel and more: http://keith.martin.home.att.net/


From: "Baxter" (lbax01.spaminator@no-spam)
Subject: Re: The United Nations
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 08:29:14 -0700

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"alohacyberian" <alohacyberian@no-spam> wrote in message news:lBaMa.31228$0v4.2290246@no-spam > "Thomas" <mauicop@no-spam> wrote in message > news:7gj1gvgolpo78ucah2guosvbbpju18nsrs@no-spam > > On Sun, 29 Jun 2003 20:49:18 -0700, Bill Shatzer > > <bshatzer@no-spam> wrote:
> > >On Sun, 29 Jun 2003, Baxter wrote:
> > >> "nobody" <nobody@no-spam> wrote in message > > >> news:nobody-2426E6.22122528062003@no-spam > > >> > In article <vfomff1hu2u5b6@no-spam>,
> > >> > "Baxter" <lbax01.spaminator@no-spam> wrote:
> > >> Really? Do point to what tribe is clamoring for Portland to be turned > over > > >> to them (Casinos don't count).
> > >
> > >No, but there are several tribes currently laying claim to about > > >two-thirds of New York State. Though I 'spect they'd be happy > > >to take the money rather than the land.
> >
> > Not to mention that history abounds with treaties and demands by the > > indigenous Native Americans from Oregon to Massachusetts laying claim,
> > and demanding the return of lands that were in fact, "stolen" from > > them. The fact that even at this date many of those claims were never > > even addressed tends to make them technically "current".
> >
>
> You ask Baxter about tribes demanding Portland and he talks about New York.
> Typical evasion. So when is Baxter giving HIS land back to Native Americans?

You're a liar hula-boy - I said nothing about New York. And I know of no Indian that's asking for my land back. I've asked YOU to inform me of any such tribe, and you've failed to do so - preferring to talk about New York instead. So again: just what tribe is asking for Portland land back?


From: "Baxter" (lbax01.spaminator@no-spam)
Subject: Re: The United Nations
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 21:01:45 -0700

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"nobody" <nobody@no-spam> wrote in message news:nobody-CE4DBB.22030801072003@no-spam > In article <vg3a6ca01oe0d0@no-spam>,
> "Baxter" <lbax01.spaminator@no-spam> wrote:
> >
> > "alohacyberian" <alohacyberian@no-spam> wrote in message > > news:lBaMa.31228$0v4.2290246@no-spam > > > "Thomas" <mauicop@no-spam> wrote in message > > > news:7gj1gvgolpo78ucah2guosvbbpju18nsrs@no-spam > > > > On Sun, 29 Jun 2003 20:49:18 -0700, Bill Shatzer > > > > <bshatzer@no-spam> wrote:
> > > > >On Sun, 29 Jun 2003, Baxter wrote:
> > > > >> "nobody" <nobody@no-spam> wrote in message > > > > >> news:nobody-2426E6.22122528062003@no-spam > > > > >> > In article <vfomff1hu2u5b6@no-spam>,
> > > > >> > "Baxter" <lbax01.spaminator@no-spam> wrote:
> > > > >> Really? Do point to what tribe is clamoring for Portland to be > > turned > > > over > > > > >> to them (Casinos don't count).
> > > > >
> > > > >No, but there are several tribes currently laying claim to about > > > > >two-thirds of New York State. Though I 'spect they'd be happy > > > > >to take the money rather than the land.
> > > >
> > > > Not to mention that history abounds with treaties and demands by the > > > > indigenous Native Americans from Oregon to Massachusetts laying claim,
> > > > and demanding the return of lands that were in fact, "stolen" from > > > > them. The fact that even at this date many of those claims were never > > > > even addressed tends to make them technically "current".
> > > >
> > >
> > > You ask Baxter about tribes demanding Portland and he talks about New > > York.
> > > Typical evasion. So when is Baxter giving HIS land back to Native > > Americans?
> >
> > You're a liar hula-boy - I said nothing about New York. And I know of no > > Indian that's asking for my land back.
>
>
> Because your ancestors killed them all.

Not in Oregon - my ancestors -may- have had something to do with the Indians in New England and possibly New Jersey (I can trace back to the Mayflower),
and at least one of my ancestors was in the Civil War, but there is no history of them ever fighting Indians. You lose again.


Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2003 04:59:30 GMT
From: Yin Duo Lai (tze@no-spam)
Subject: Re: The United Ntions

> Not in Oregon - my ancestors -may- have had something to do with the Indians > in New England and possibly New Jersey (I can trace back to the Mayflower),

the mayflower was a pirate ship

Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2003 05:02:23 GMT
From: senaca (senaca@no-spam)
Subject: Re: The United Nations

hawaii is an island
-- http://www.3wk.com underground radio

From: "alohacyberian" (alohacyberian@no-spam)
Subject: Re: The United Nations
Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2003 07:50:01 GMT

"nobody" <nobody@no-spam> wrote in message news:nobody-CE4DBB.22030801072003@no-spam > In article <vg3a6ca01oe0d0@no-spam>,
> "Baxter" <lbax01.spaminator@no-spam> wrote:
> > "alohacyberian" <alohacyberian@no-spam> wrote in message > > news:lBaMa.31228$0v4.2290246@no-spam > > > "Thomas" <mauicop@no-spam> wrote in message > > > news:7gj1gvgolpo78ucah2guosvbbpju18nsrs@no-spam > > > > On Sun, 29 Jun 2003 20:49:18 -0700, Bill Shatzer > > > > <bshatzer@no-spam> wrote:
> > > > >On Sun, 29 Jun 2003, Baxter wrote:
> > > > >> "nobody" <nobody@no-spam> wrote in message > > > > >> news:nobody-2426E6.22122528062003@no-spam > > > > >> > In article <vfomff1hu2u5b6@no-spam>,
> > > > >> > "Baxter" <lbax01.spaminator@no-spam> wrote:
> > >
> > > You ask Baxter about tribes demanding Portland and he talks about New > > York.
> > > Typical evasion. So when is Baxter giving HIS land back to Native > > Americans?
> >
> > You're a liar hula-boy - I said nothing about New York. And I know of no > > Indian that's asking for my land back.
>
> Because your ancestors killed them all.
>
ROTFLMAO. Baxter is the kinda guy who would go steal something and rationalize that such behavior is OK so long as the victim doesn't ask for it back. KM -- (-:alohacyberian:-) At my website there are 3000 live cameras or visit NASA, play games, read jokes, send greeting cards & connect to CNN news, NBA, the White House, Academy Awards or learn all about Hawaii, Israel and more: http://keith.martin.home.att.net/


From: "alohacyberian" (alohacyberian@no-spam)
Subject: Re: The United Nations
Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2003 07:50:03 GMT

"senaca" <senaca@no-spam> wrote in message news:1e2151070f6a8f3d52c93d04d32558f1@no-spam >
> hawaii is an island >

Hawaii was also a nation and is now a state. The nation became known as Hawaii because the king who consolidated all the islands under one rule was from the Island of Hawaii. Once he solidified the kingdom, he moved his capital to Oahu and it remains there to this day. KM -- (-:alohacyberian:-) At my website there are 3000 live cameras or visit NASA, play games, read jokes, send greeting cards & connect to CNN news, NBA, the White House, Academy Awards or learn all about Hawaii, Israel and more: http://keith.martin.home.att.net/


From: nobody (nobody@no-spam)
Subject: Re: The United Nations
Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2003 01:15:24 GMT

In article <vg4m9dm95guh42@no-spam>,
"Baxter" <lbax01.spaminator@no-spam> wrote:

> --
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> > > "nobody" <nobody@no-spam> wrote in message > news:nobody-CE4DBB.22030801072003@no-spam > > In article <vg3a6ca01oe0d0@no-spam>,
> > "Baxter" <lbax01.spaminator@no-spam> wrote:
> > >
> > > "alohacyberian" <alohacyberian@no-spam> wrote in message > > > news:lBaMa.31228$0v4.2290246@no-spam > > > > "Thomas" <mauicop@no-spam> wrote in message > > > > news:7gj1gvgolpo78ucah2guosvbbpju18nsrs@no-spam > > > > > On Sun, 29 Jun 2003 20:49:18 -0700, Bill Shatzer > > > > > <bshatzer@no-spam> wrote:
> > > > > >On Sun, 29 Jun 2003, Baxter wrote:
> > > > > >> "nobody" <nobody@no-spam> wrote in message > > > > > >> news:nobody-2426E6.22122528062003@no-spam > > > > > >> > In article <vfomff1hu2u5b6@no-spam>,
> > > > > >> > "Baxter" <lbax01.spaminator@no-spam> wrote:
> > > > > >> Really? Do point to what tribe is clamoring for Portland to be > > > turned > > > > over > > > > > >> to them (Casinos don't count).
> > > > > >
> > > > > >No, but there are several tribes currently laying claim to about > > > > > >two-thirds of New York State. Though I 'spect they'd be happy > > > > > >to take the money rather than the land.
> > > > >
> > > > > Not to mention that history abounds with treaties and demands by the > > > > > indigenous Native Americans from Oregon to Massachusetts laying > claim,
> > > > > and demanding the return of lands that were in fact, "stolen" from > > > > > them. The fact that even at this date many of those claims were > never > > > > > even addressed tends to make them technically "current".
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > You ask Baxter about tribes demanding Portland and he talks about New > > > York.
> > > > Typical evasion. So when is Baxter giving HIS land back to Native > > > Americans?
> > >
> > > You're a liar hula-boy - I said nothing about New York. And I know of > no > > > Indian that's asking for my land back.
> >
> >
> > Because your ancestors killed them all.
> > Not in Oregon - my ancestors -may- have had something to do with the Indians > in New England and possibly New Jersey (I can trace back to the Mayflower),
> and at least one of my ancestors was in the Civil War, but there is no > history of them ever fighting Indians.

They didn't bring in smallpox and similar diseases?

> You lose again.

Nope, sorry, you do, as usual.


From: nobody (nobody@no-spam)
Subject: Re: The United Nations
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 00:45:01 GMT

In article <vg4m9dm95guh42@no-spam>,
"Baxter" <lbax01.spaminator@no-spam> wrote:

> --
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Free software - Baxter Codeworks www.baxcode.com > -------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > "nobody" <nobody@no-spam> wrote in message > news:nobody-CE4DBB.22030801072003@no-spam > > In article <vg3a6ca01oe0d0@no-spam>,
> > "Baxter" <lbax01.spaminator@no-spam> wrote:
> > >
> > > "alohacyberian" <alohacyberian@no-spam> wrote in message > > > news:lBaMa.31228$0v4.2290246@no-spam > > > > "Thomas" <mauicop@no-spam> wrote in message > > > > news:7gj1gvgolpo78ucah2guosvbbpju18nsrs@no-spam > > > > > On Sun, 29 Jun 2003 20:49:18 -0700, Bill Shatzer > > > > > <bshatzer@no-spam> wrote:
> > > > > >On Sun, 29 Jun 2003, Baxter wrote:
> > > > > >> "nobody" <nobody@no-spam> wrote in message > > > > > >> news:nobody-2426E6.22122528062003@no-spam > > > > > >> > In article <vfomff1hu2u5b6@no-spam>,
> > > > > >> > "Baxter" <lbax01.spaminator@no-spam> wrote:
> > > > > >> Really? Do point to what tribe is clamoring for Portland to be > > > turned > > > > over > > > > > >> to them (Casinos don't count).
> > > > > >
> > > > > >No, but there are several tribes currently laying claim to about > > > > > >two-thirds of New York State. Though I 'spect they'd be happy > > > > > >to take the money rather than the land.
> > > > >
> > > > > Not to mention that history abounds with treaties and demands by the > > > > > indigenous Native Americans from Oregon to Massachusetts laying > claim,
> > > > > and demanding the return of lands that were in fact, "stolen" from > > > > > them. The fact that even at this date many of those claims were > never > > > > > even addressed tends to make them technically "current".
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > You ask Baxter about tribes demanding Portland and he talks about New > > > York.
> > > > Typical evasion. So when is Baxter giving HIS land back to Native > > > Americans?
> > >
> > > You're a liar hula-boy - I said nothing about New York. And I know of > no > > > Indian that's asking for my land back.
> >
> >
> > Because your ancestors killed them all.
> > Not in Oregon - my ancestors -may- have had something to do with the Indians > in New England and possibly New Jersey (I can trace back to the Mayflower),
> and at least one of my ancestors was in the Civil War, but there is no > history of them ever fighting Indians. You lose again.

so all those Isrealis who can't be shown to have actually fought the palestinians can stay in their settlements on the west bank, right?