OR POLITICS 39 RE OREGON GAS
From: upstart23@no-spam (Heck's Kitchen)
Subject: Re: Oregon Gas
Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2003 14:56:43 GMT


Bill Shatzer <bshatzer@no-spam> wrote:

>Nothing but cushy days off from here on in, hank.

Congrats on your retirement. I guess my first assumption was correct:

"I'm thinking that Bill is either enjoying another cushy day-off, ...
at the expense of City taxpayers again!"


















From: upstart23@no-spam (Heck's Kitchen)
Subject: Re: Oregon Gas
Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2003 16:52:29 GMT

"Dave Thompson" <dav13795@no-spam> wrote:

>And I believe everybody should have equal protection and a right to privacy >no matter what state they live in.

A right to privacy for sex, or a right to privacy that extends to gun ownership, banking, travel within one's own nation?


From: "Dave Thompson" (dav13795@no-spam)
Subject: Re: Oregon Gas
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 10:03:51 -0700

"Heck's Kitchen" <upstart23@no-spam> wrote in message news:3f03bbbf.65824271@no-spam > "Dave Thompson" <dav13795@no-spam> wrote:
>
> >And I believe everybody should have equal protection and a right to privacy > >no matter what state they live in.
>
> A right to privacy for sex, or a right to privacy that extends to gun > ownership, banking, travel within one's own nation?

Right to privacy in context with the off-topic discussion of this thread,
which would be sex. The rest are completely different topics.


From: clw@no-spam
Subject: Re: Oregon Gas
Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2003 19:56:40 -0700

In article <Pine.GSO.4.53MAILDIR.0307011853350.28267@no-spam>,
Bob Tiernan <zulu.pacifier.com@no-spam> wrote:

> Dave Thompson wrote:

> > Right to privacy in context with the off-topic discussion > > of this thread, which would be sex. The rest are completely > > different topics.
> > > In other words, your dedication to the right to privacy > is as limited as the justice who coined the phrase.

Cummon, BT, you know that the phrase "Right to privacy " is based on the Fourth Amendment and the Fourteenth Amendment. Like many other personal freedoms (marriage, procreation, right to earn a living etc), privacy does not stand alone as a constitutional concept. But, its basis is an absolute constitutional requirement, liberty as protected by due process.

That it has been applied only to sexual matters ( and indirectly in Sullivan) is a manifestation of no other cases having come before the court where such a concept need be applied. It is not limited to sexual matters, it has only been interpreted to apply to sexual matters so far.


From: "Dave Thompson" (dav13795@no-spam)
Subject: Re: Oregon Gas
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 21:50:15 -0700

"Bob Tiernan" <zulu.pacifier.com@no-spam> wrote in message news:Pine.GSO.4.53MAILDIR.0307011853350.28267@no-spam >
> Dave Thompson wrote:
>
> > "Heck's Kitchen" wrote:
>
> > > "Dave Thompson" wrote:
>
>
> > > > And I believe everybody should have equal protection > > > > and a right to privacy no matter what state they live in.
>
>
> > > A right to privacy for sex, or a right to privacy that > > > extends to gun ownership, banking, travel within one's > > > own nation?
>
>
> > Right to privacy in context with the off-topic discussion > > of this thread, which would be sex. The rest are completely > > different topics.
>
>
> In other words, your dedication to the right to privacy > is as limited as the justice who coined the phrase.

No, I limited it to the discussion. Maybe you should consider doing such yourself.