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"nobody" <nobody@no-spam> wrote in message
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> In article <vfjcnp4cqq12d2@no-spam>,
> "Baxter" <lbax01.spaminator@no-spam> wrote:
>
> >
> > "alohacyberian" <alohacyberian@no-spam> wrote in message
> > news:76eKa.20412$3o3.1610260@no-spam
> > > "nobody" <nobody@no-spam> wrote in message
> > >> >
> > > > Yeah, some peace and justice. Your ancectors steal lands and it's
OK,
> > > > but you salve your conscience by telling the Israelis to give back
their
> > > > lands. What a fucking hypocrite.
> > > >
> > > Did you notice how he totally missed your point of millions of people
> > being
> > > dispossessed of their lands and changing the subject, quibbled about
the
> > > population? Amazing blinders! But, is anyone surprised? KM
> >
> > Keep in mind that what happened in the Americas happened centuries ago
and
> > we are not in a position to prevent it.
>
>
> You're in a position to rectify it. Just give your land back to the
> Indians. Why not? Let me guess, it would require you to make a
> sacrifice instead of insisting someone else make the sacrifice? What a
> hypocrite!
I see that you lead by example - NOT! Fact is, I don't hear any Indians
clamoring for my land, or anything of that nature. I do hear the Kamath
Indians asking for their water, and I firmly support their ownership of that
water - do you?
In article
<Pine.LNX.4.44.0306262146240.13271-100000@no-spam>,
Bill Shatzer <bshatzer@no-spam> wrote:
> On Fri, 27 Jun 2003, nobody wrote:
>
> > In article <vfibq8t16ann9d@no-spam>,
> > "Baxter" <lbax01.spaminator@no-spam> wrote:
>
> -snips-
>
> > > So now you want to compare Palestinian land with two continents?
> >
> > Huh? Why not? Your ancestors stole the land you occupy and you aren't
> > willing to give it back. Why do you feel justified demanding that the
> > Israelis give back the land you claim their ancestors stole? Yes, I am
> > comparing Palestine to North and South America. Try explaining why the
> > laws are different between the three continents.
>
> The laws have changed....
How convenient for you. Sorry bozo, we're not talking laws here, we're
talking about morals, and moral authority has a longer life than laws.
You've just reduced your case to what a sleazy bottom dwelling lawyer
could argue. Why am I not supprised you'd take that route? If it's
immoral for Israel to steal land from the palestinians in 1948 or 1967
it was equally immoral for the Europeans to steal land from the native
Americans in the 18th, 19th, and 20th centuries, and for them to steal
land from the Maoris and Aborigines as well. Laws have nothing to do
with it, morality does. But it's telling that you choose to try to hide
your theft behind the "law". Try again.
In article <vfomff1hu2u5b6@no-spam>,
"Baxter" <lbax01.spaminator@no-spam> wrote:
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> "nobody" <nobody@no-spam> wrote in message
> news:nobody-E310D1.21441126062003@no-spam
> > In article <vfjcnp4cqq12d2@no-spam>,
> > "Baxter" <lbax01.spaminator@no-spam> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > "alohacyberian" <alohacyberian@no-spam> wrote in message
> > > news:76eKa.20412$3o3.1610260@no-spam
> > > > "nobody" <nobody@no-spam> wrote in message
> > > >> >
> > > > > Yeah, some peace and justice. Your ancectors steal lands and it's
> OK,
> > > > > but you salve your conscience by telling the Israelis to give back
> their
> > > > > lands. What a fucking hypocrite.
> > > > >
> > > > Did you notice how he totally missed your point of millions of people
> > > being
> > > > dispossessed of their lands and changing the subject, quibbled about
> the
> > > > population? Amazing blinders! But, is anyone surprised? KM
> > >
> > > Keep in mind that what happened in the Americas happened centuries ago
> and
> > > we are not in a position to prevent it.
> >
> >
> > You're in a position to rectify it. Just give your land back to the
> > Indians. Why not? Let me guess, it would require you to make a
> > sacrifice instead of insisting someone else make the sacrifice? What a
> > hypocrite!
>
> I see that you lead by example - NOT!
non sequitor, try again.
> Fact is, I don't hear any Indians
> clamoring for my land, or anything of that nature.
Fact is, you must be blind and deaf.
"nobody" <nobody@no-spam> wrote in message
news:nobody-482ADA.22112028062003@no-spam
> In article
> <Pine.LNX.4.44.0306262146240.13271-100000@no-spam>,
> Bill Shatzer <bshatzer@no-spam> wrote:
> > On Fri, 27 Jun 2003, nobody wrote:
> > > In article <vfibq8t16ann9d@no-spam>,
> > > "Baxter" <lbax01.spaminator@no-spam> wrote:
> > -snips-
> > > > So now you want to compare Palestinian land with two continents?
> > >
> > > Huh? Why not? Your ancestors stole the land you occupy and you aren't
> > > willing to give it back. Why do you feel justified demanding that the
> > > Israelis give back the land you claim their ancestors stole? Yes, I am
> > > comparing Palestine to North and South America. Try explaining why the
> > > laws are different between the three continents.
> >
> > The laws have changed....
>
> How convenient for you. Sorry bozo, we're not talking laws here, we're
> talking about morals, and moral authority has a longer life than laws.
> You've just reduced your case to what a sleazy bottom dwelling lawyer
> could argue. Why am I not supprised you'd take that route? If it's
> immoral for Israel to steal land from the palestinians in 1948 or 1967
> it was equally immoral for the Europeans to steal land from the native
> Americans in the 18th, 19th, and 20th centuries, and for them to steal
> land from the Maoris and Aborigines as well. Laws have nothing to do
> with it, morality does. But it's telling that you choose to try to hide
> your theft behind the "law". Try again.
>
It's interesting that a man who blathers on about laws, blithely excuses the
Arabs for the plethora of international laws they've ignored. Double
standard? It's what we've come to expect from Leftwing Liberals. KM
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"nobody" <nobody@no-spam> wrote in message
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> In article <vfomff1hu2u5b6@no-spam>,
> "Baxter" <lbax01.spaminator@no-spam> wrote:
> > "nobody" <nobody@no-spam> wrote in message
> > news:nobody-E310D1.21441126062003@no-spam
> > > In article <vfjcnp4cqq12d2@no-spam>,
> > > "Baxter" <lbax01.spaminator@no-spam> wrote:
> > > > "alohacyberian" <alohacyberian@no-spam> wrote in message
> > > > news:76eKa.20412$3o3.1610260@no-spam
> > > > > "nobody" <nobody@no-spam> wrote in message
> > >
> > > You're in a position to rectify it. Just give your land back to the
> > > Indians. Why not? Let me guess, it would require you to make a
> > > sacrifice instead of insisting someone else make the sacrifice? What a
> > > hypocrite!
>
> > Fact is, I don't hear any Indians
> > clamoring for my land, or anything of that nature.
>
> Fact is, you must be blind and deaf.
>
But, he DOES listen to North Africans who are clamoring for Israel's land,
claiming it belongs to "Palestinians" who never existed prior to Yasser
Arafat's coining the term in 1967! Why won't he give his land back to the
Indians? Double Standard? KM
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"nobody" <nobody@no-spam> wrote in message
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> In article <vfomff1hu2u5b6@no-spam>,
> "Baxter" <lbax01.spaminator@no-spam> wrote:
>
>
> > Fact is, I don't hear any Indians
> > clamoring for my land, or anything of that nature.
>
>
> Fact is, you must be blind and deaf.
Really? Do point to what tribe is clamoring for Portland to be turned over
to them (Casinos don't count).
In article <vfua24qqkd9qf3@no-spam>,
"Baxter" <lbax01.spaminator@no-spam> wrote:
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> "nobody" <nobody@no-spam> wrote in message
> news:nobody-2426E6.22122528062003@no-spam
> > In article <vfomff1hu2u5b6@no-spam>,
> > "Baxter" <lbax01.spaminator@no-spam> wrote:
> >
> >
> > > Fact is, I don't hear any Indians
> > > clamoring for my land, or anything of that nature.
> >
> >
> > Fact is, you must be blind and deaf.
>
> Really?
Really.
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"nobody" <nobody@no-spam> wrote in message
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> In article <vfua24qqkd9qf3@no-spam>,
> "Baxter" <lbax01.spaminator@no-spam> wrote:
>
> >
> > "nobody" <nobody@no-spam> wrote in message
> > news:nobody-2426E6.22122528062003@no-spam
> > > In article <vfomff1hu2u5b6@no-spam>,
> > > "Baxter" <lbax01.spaminator@no-spam> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > > Fact is, I don't hear any Indians
> > > > clamoring for my land, or anything of that nature.
> > >
> > >
> > > Fact is, you must be blind and deaf.
> >
> > Really?
>
> Really.
Your one-liner dodges the question: "Do point to what tribe is clamoring
for Portland to be turned over to them (Casinos don't count)."
Until you can address that issue, your "really" is just another neo-con lie.
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"Baxter" <lbax01.spaminator@no-spam> wrote:
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> "nobody" <nobody@no-spam> wrote in message
> news:nobody-26039B.18052729062003@no-spam
> > In article <vfua24qqkd9qf3@no-spam>,
> > "Baxter" <lbax01.spaminator@no-spam> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > "nobody" <nobody@no-spam> wrote in message
> > > news:nobody-2426E6.22122528062003@no-spam
> > > > In article <vfomff1hu2u5b6@no-spam>,
> > > > "Baxter" <lbax01.spaminator@no-spam> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Fact is, I don't hear any Indians
> > > > > clamoring for my land, or anything of that nature.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Fact is, you must be blind and deaf.
> > >
> > > Really?
> >
> > Really.
>
> Your one-liner dodges the question: "Do point to what tribe is clamoring
> for Portland to be turned over to them (Casinos don't count)."
Why don't casinos count?
In article
<gcyLa.27532$0v4.2074146@no-spam>,
"alohacyberian" <alohacyberian@no-spam> wrote:
> "nobody" <nobody@no-spam> wrote in message
> news:nobody-482ADA.22112028062003@no-spam
> > In article
> > <Pine.LNX.4.44.0306262146240.13271-100000@no-spam>,
> > Bill Shatzer <bshatzer@no-spam> wrote:
> > > On Fri, 27 Jun 2003, nobody wrote:
> > > > In article <vfibq8t16ann9d@no-spam>,
> > > > "Baxter" <lbax01.spaminator@no-spam> wrote:
> > > -snips-
> > > > > So now you want to compare Palestinian land with two continents?
> > > >
> > > > Huh? Why not? Your ancestors stole the land you occupy and you aren't
> > > > willing to give it back. Why do you feel justified demanding that the
> > > > Israelis give back the land you claim their ancestors stole? Yes, I am
> > > > comparing Palestine to North and South America. Try explaining why the
> > > > laws are different between the three continents.
> > >
> > > The laws have changed....
> >
> > How convenient for you. Sorry bozo, we're not talking laws here, we're
> > talking about morals, and moral authority has a longer life than laws.
> > You've just reduced your case to what a sleazy bottom dwelling lawyer
> > could argue. Why am I not supprised you'd take that route? If it's
> > immoral for Israel to steal land from the palestinians in 1948 or 1967
> > it was equally immoral for the Europeans to steal land from the native
> > Americans in the 18th, 19th, and 20th centuries, and for them to steal
> > land from the Maoris and Aborigines as well. Laws have nothing to do
> > with it, morality does. But it's telling that you choose to try to hide
> > your theft behind the "law". Try again.
> >
> It's interesting that a man who blathers on about laws, blithely excuses the
> Arabs for the plethora of international laws they've ignored. Double
> standard?
Is there any other kind for the looney left?
In article
<icyLa.27533$0v4.2076163@no-spam>,
"alohacyberian" <alohacyberian@no-spam> wrote:
> "nobody" <nobody@no-spam> wrote in message
> news:nobody-2426E6.22122528062003@no-spam
> > In article <vfomff1hu2u5b6@no-spam>,
> > "Baxter" <lbax01.spaminator@no-spam> wrote:
> > > "nobody" <nobody@no-spam> wrote in message
> > > news:nobody-E310D1.21441126062003@no-spam
> > > > In article <vfjcnp4cqq12d2@no-spam>,
> > > > "Baxter" <lbax01.spaminator@no-spam> wrote:
> > > > > "alohacyberian" <alohacyberian@no-spam> wrote in message
> > > > > news:76eKa.20412$3o3.1610260@no-spam
> > > > > > "nobody" <nobody@no-spam> wrote in message
> > > >
> > > > You're in a position to rectify it. Just give your land back to the
> > > > Indians. Why not? Let me guess, it would require you to make a
> > > > sacrifice instead of insisting someone else make the sacrifice? What a
> > > > hypocrite!
> >
> > > Fact is, I don't hear any Indians
> > > clamoring for my land, or anything of that nature.
> >
> > Fact is, you must be blind and deaf.
> >
> But, he DOES listen to North Africans who are clamoring for Israel's land,
> claiming it belongs to "Palestinians" who never existed prior to Yasser
> Arafat's coining the term in 1967! Why won't he give his land back to the
> Indians? Double Standard? KM
Well, now he's arguing that he can't find any Indians asking for their
land back. Well, yeah, if you kill them all off, of course there are
none left to complain. Wonder what he'd say if the Israelis tried the
sort of genocide that allows him to occupy stolen land without having to
put up with complaints from the people his ancestors stole it from.
On Sun, 29 Jun 2003, Baxter wrote:
> "nobody" <nobody@no-spam> wrote in message
> news:nobody-2426E6.22122528062003@no-spam
> > In article <vfomff1hu2u5b6@no-spam>,
> > "Baxter" <lbax01.spaminator@no-spam> wrote:
> > > Fact is, I don't hear any Indians
> > > clamoring for my land, or anything of that nature.
> > Fact is, you must be blind and deaf.
> Really? Do point to what tribe is clamoring for Portland to be turned over
> to them (Casinos don't count).
No, but there are several tribes currently laying claim to about
two-thirds of New York State. Though I 'spect they'd be happy
to take the money rather than the land.
Peace and justice,
"nobody" <nobody@no-spam> wrote in message
news:nobody-A7E0CC.23220129062003@no-spam
> In article
> <gcyLa.27532$0v4.2074146@no-spam>,
> "alohacyberian" <alohacyberian@no-spam> wrote:
> > "nobody" <nobody@no-spam> wrote in message
> > news:nobody-482ADA.22112028062003@no-spam
> > > In article
> > > <Pine.LNX.4.44.0306262146240.13271-100000@no-spam>,
> > > Bill Shatzer <bshatzer@no-spam> wrote:
> > > > On Fri, 27 Jun 2003, nobody wrote:
> > > > > In article <vfibq8t16ann9d@no-spam>,
> > > > > "Baxter" <lbax01.spaminator@no-spam> wrote:
> > > > -snips-
> > > with it, morality does. But it's telling that you choose to try to
hide
> > > your theft behind the "law". Try again.
> > >
> > It's interesting that a man who blathers on about laws, blithely excuses
the
> > Arabs for the plethora of international laws they've ignored. Double
> > standard?
>
> Is there any other kind for the looney left?
>
Yes, actually, in many matters, a great deal of them have no standards
whatever. KM
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