OR POLITICS 44 RE OREGON GAS
From: Bob Tiernan (zulu.pacifier.com@no-spam)
Subject: Re: Oregon Gas
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 18:55:42 -0700


Dave Thompson wrote:

> "Heck's Kitchen" wrote:

> > "Dave Thompson" wrote:

> > > And I believe everybody should have equal protection > > > and a right to privacy no matter what state they live in.

> > A right to privacy for sex, or a right to privacy that > > extends to gun ownership, banking, travel within one's > > own nation?

> Right to privacy in context with the off-topic discussion > of this thread, which would be sex. The rest are completely > different topics.

In other words, your dedication to the right to privacy is as limited as the justice who coined the phrase.

Bob Tiernan
NOW is able to overlook wife-beating and murder in the case of someone who's a role model for young black men and the sexual exploitation of subordinates in the case of someone who can help the organization politically and financially.

-- Tammy Bruce Past President Now (Los Angeles Chapter)


From: Bill Shatzer (bshatzer@no-spam)
Subject: Re: Oregon Gas
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 21:16:19 -0700

On Tue, 1 Jul 2003, Heck's Kitchen wrote:

> Bill Shatzer <bshatzer@no-spam> wrote:

> >Nothing but cushy days off from here on in, hank.

> Congrats on your retirement. I guess my first assumption was correct:

> "I'm thinking that Bill is either enjoying another cushy day-off, ...
> at the expense of City taxpayers again!"

Hate speech? Or just envy?

Peace and justice,


From: Bob Tiernan (zulu.pacifier.com@no-spam)
Subject: Liberty protections [Was: Oregon Gas]
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 23:59:20 -0700

CLW wrote:

> Cummon, BT, you know that the phrase "Right to privacy" is based on the > Fourth Amendment and the Fourteenth Amendment. Like many other personal > freedoms (marriage, procreation, right to earn a living etc), privacy > does not stand alone as a constitutional concept. But, its basis is an > absolute constitutional requirement, liberty as protected by due > process.

In other words, it's not much of a right to you. Like I said,
people like Shatzer (just to name one) have no problem at all with a right being denied so long as the person has his day in court (as a formality I guess).

Bob t