OR POLITICS 6 RE THE UNITED NATIONS
From: "alohacyberian" (alohacyberian@no-spam)
Subject: Re: The United Nations
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2003 18:43:35 GMT


"Thomas" <mauicop@no-spam> wrote in message news:t10qfv8slpkgrs7sof4in8jkifvve1ocvd@no-spam > On Thu, 26 Jun 2003 22:56:38 -0700, Bill Shatzer > <bshatzer@no-spam> wrote:
> >On Fri, 27 Jun 2003, alohacyberian wrote:
> >I'd think that I'm running a very poor second to yerself in > >the "erroneous 'facts'" department.
>
> Well, that last load has put you back in first place. You keep > repeating blather about a so-called Palestinian "diaspora",
> notwithstanding that in actuality, there's no such thing as an > indigenous "Palestinian", they're all rejects from Tunisia, Syria,
> Trans-Jordan, Morocco et. al.
> Twice you have carefully side-stepped and ducked my original question > about the validity of the figures you posted. What's your source?
> ALOHA >

You notice how Shatzer always pounces on the exception as though that proves the rule and leaps on the arcane and irrelevant as though it strengthens his unsupportable positions. Oh, well, it's what happens at the polls that counts, maybe someday that'll sink into his noggin. KM -- (-:alohacyberian:-) At my website there are 3000 live cameras or visit NASA, play games, read jokes, send greeting cards & connect to CNN news, NBA, the White House, Academy Awards or learn all about Hawaii, Israel and more: http://keith.martin.home.att.net/


Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2003 06:21:32 GMT
From: john bailo (jabailo@no-spam)
Subject: Re: The United Nations


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From: usenet@no-spam (Paul Mitchum)
Subject: Re: The United Nations
Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 00:31:32 -0700

Thomas <mauicop@no-spam> wrote:

> On Thu, 3 Jul 2003 08:40:57 -0700, "WinGuru" <anonymous> wrote:
[..]
> >BT ... The SCOTUS clearly ruled incorrectly because the FL Constitution > >(say aren't you this big State's rights person - so why do you support > >the SCOTUS interfering in a State issue?) says that the paramount > >principle is that the voter's intent be determined and all votes counted.
> >The Dec 18 date is an arbitrary and unnecessary administrative rule that > >really doesn't apply in today's culture of instant communication.
> > What a bunch of gobbledygook. Bottom line: The Democrats wish to > count, and recount, and recount ballots until they win was ruled > redundant and unnecessary by the Supreme Court.

BZZT. The Democrats were within the law, and the USSC ruled that everything was going exactly as it should before Bush sued. The trouble was that the Republicans wanted to *stop* counting since they had counted enough to spell victory for Bush, which they managed to do.

> The Democrats strategy of endless court challenges until they could > manipulate themselves into the winner failed miserably, and the fact that > there are still whining crybabies howling about it three years later is > g'damned funny. It makes those who are still whining look like nutcases,
> so keep it up, thanks to you and your ilk, GWB is a lock for a second > term. Again, thanks.

The sad part is that you're willing to appear so ignorant about the workings of your government.


From: "Baxter" (lbax01.spaminator@no-spam)
Subject: Re: The United Nations
Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 08:39:13 -0700

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"alohacyberian" <alohacyberian@no-spam> wrote in message news:I3cNa.35336$3o3.2583209@no-spam > "Paul Mitchum" <usenet@no-spam> wrote in message > news:1fxjqff.1w3dmgn12bdx9jN%usenet@no-spam > > Thomas <mauicop@no-spam> wrote:
> > > On Thu, 3 Jul 2003 08:40:57 -0700, "WinGuru" <anonymous> wrote:
> > [..]
> > > The Democrats strategy of endless court challenges until they could > > > manipulate themselves into the winner failed miserably, and the fact > that > > > there are still whining crybabies howling about it three years later is > > > g'damned funny. It makes those who are still whining look like nutcases,
> > > so keep it up, thanks to you and your ilk, GWB is a lock for a second > > > term. Again, thanks.
> >
> > The sad part is that you're willing to appear so ignorant about the > > workings of your government.
> >
> Paul, we can always count on you for a bellylaugh. What Thomas sees and > discusses is what actually happened and why George W. Bush is in the White > House while Al Gore is in the outhouse. What Thomas outlines is what > happened! And now you come, hat in hand, asking him to enter your world of > "what-if" and "if-only" fantasy? And a pessimistic dreamworld at that!
No > thanks. But, keep up the good work, your adversaries enjoy the laughs and > your confederates will continue to be disappointed at election returns.
> Nobody could give your side worse publicity than you readily supply all by > yourselves. KM
Bush said God told him to go into Afghanistan. Bush said God told him to go into Iraq. What is God going to tell Bush to do next?


From: "alohacyberian" (alohacyberian@no-spam)
Subject: Re: The United Nations
Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2003 04:52:00 GMT

"Baxter" <lbax01.spaminator@no-spam> wrote in message news:vgb7t27jk6umca@no-spam > "alohacyberian" <alohacyberian@no-spam> wrote in message > news:I3cNa.35336$3o3.2583209@no-spam > > "Paul Mitchum" <usenet@no-spam> wrote in message > > news:1fxjqff.1w3dmgn12bdx9jN%usenet@no-spam > > > Thomas <mauicop@no-spam> wrote:
> > > > On Thu, 3 Jul 2003 08:40:57 -0700, "WinGuru" <anonymous> wrote:
> > > [..]
> > > > The Democrats strategy of endless court challenges until they could > > > > manipulate themselves into the winner failed miserably, and the fact > > that > > > > there are still whining crybabies howling about it three years later > is > > > > g'damned funny. It makes those who are still whining look like > nutcases,
> > > > so keep it up, thanks to you and your ilk, GWB is a lock for a second > > > > term. Again, thanks.
> > >
> > > The sad part is that you're willing to appear so ignorant about the > > > workings of your government.
> > >
> > Paul, we can always count on you for a bellylaugh. What Thomas sees and > > discusses is what actually happened and why George W. Bush is in the White > > House while Al Gore is in the outhouse. What Thomas outlines is what > > happened! And now you come, hat in hand, asking him to enter your world > of > > "what-if" and "if-only" fantasy? And a pessimistic dreamworld at that!
> No > > thanks. But, keep up the good work, your adversaries enjoy the laughs and > > your confederates will continue to be disappointed at election returns.
> > Nobody could give your side worse publicity than you readily supply all by > > yourselves. KM >
> Bush said God told him to go into Afghanistan. Bush said God told him to go > into Iraq. What is God going to tell Bush to do next?
>

If you really believe that bit of satire posted out of context from "Ha'aretz" you're welcome to yet another fantasy. Bush didn't act alone,
both houses of Congress were solidly behind him, as were bothh Bill and Hillary Clinton. Are you also concerned with what God told them? And fantasy won't determine the outcome of the next election, either. KM -- (-:alohacyberian:-) At my website there are 3000 live cameras or visit NASA, play games, read jokes, send greeting cards & connect to CNN news, NBA, the White House, Academy Awards or learn all about Hawaii, Israel and more: http://keith.martin.home.att.net/


Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2003 05:59:32 GMT
From: a gay blade (a@no-spam)
Subject: Re: The United Nations

On Sat, 05 Jul 2003 04:52:00 +0000, alohacyberian wrote:

> "Ha'aretz" you're welcome to yet another fantasy. Bush didn't act alone,
> both houses of Congress were solidly behind him,
I'm solidly behind our President!

Or at least I wish I were.

He's so -- in control and all.


From: "alohacyberian" (alohacyberian@no-spam)
Subject: Re: The United Nations
Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2003 07:22:21 GMT

"Baxter" <lbax01.spaminator@no-spam> wrote in message news:vgdu08d037lebb@no-spam > "alohacyberian" <alohacyberian@no-spam> wrote in message > news:QPsNa.36738$0v4.2690182@no-spam > > "Baxter" <lbax01.spaminator@no-spam> wrote in message >
> The Clintons haven't gone around claiming that 'God told them to ...'.
>
> Bush is a nutcase and no amount of whitewashing is going to cover that up > for long.
>

Neither has Bush claimed that God told him to do anything. A foreign newspaper, "Ha'aretz" printed a satire that didn't claim any such thing either, but, the Leftwing Liberals have become so desperate to grasp any hallucinatory straw they can find, they're frothing at the mouth and messing themselves to start yet another tidbit of propaganda which will backfire, as usual. They've worked themselves up to the same fever pitch that was demonstrated when Ronald Reagan ran for re-election. The Leftwing Liberal strategy really paid off. But, not for the Leftwing Liberals. Ronald Reagan received more popular votes than any other presidential candidate in the history of the United States had ever or has ever gotten and he landed more Electoral Votes than any presidential candidate had ever received or has ever obtained. Keep up the good work - maybe Bush can beat Reagan's records. KM -- (-:alohacyberian:-) At my website there are 3000 live cameras or visit NASA, play games, read jokes, send greeting cards & connect to CNN news, NBA, the White House, Academy Awards or learn all about Hawaii, Israel and more: http://keith.martin.home.att.net/


From: "Baxter" (lbax01.spaminator@no-spam)
Subject: Re: The United Nations
Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2003 12:33:48 -0700

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"alohacyberian" <alohacyberian@no-spam> wrote in message news:N6QNa.38372$0v4.2803431@no-spam > "Baxter" <lbax01.spaminator@no-spam> wrote in message > news:vgdu08d037lebb@no-spam > > "alohacyberian" <alohacyberian@no-spam> wrote in message > > news:QPsNa.36738$0v4.2690182@no-spam > > > "Baxter" <lbax01.spaminator@no-spam> wrote in message > >
> > The Clintons haven't gone around claiming that 'God told them to ...'.
> >
> > Bush is a nutcase and no amount of whitewashing is going to cover that up > > for long.
> >
>
> Neither has Bush claimed that God told him to do anything. A foreign > newspaper, "Ha'aretz" printed a satire that didn't claim any such thing > either,

Do show that it was satire. I've got references that say Ha'aretz is Israel's most reputable newspaper.

Do explain too, why the American news hasn't call Bush to account on this?
They'd better - this is starting to get a lot of traction on the Internet.

Are we returning to the era of Divine Right of Kings?


From: Bob Tiernan (zulu.pacifier.com@no-spam)
Subject: Re: The United Nations
Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2003 13:15:18 -0700

alohacyberian wrote:

> Neither has Bush claimed that God told him to do anything. A foreign > newspaper, "Ha'aretz" printed a satire that didn't claim any such thing > either, but, the Leftwing Liberals have become so desperate to grasp any > hallucinatory straw they can find
The second part is correct, but the first part isn't.
The conversation in which the comment was alleged to have been uttered was behind closed doors, and was not recorded on tape or video. But the PLO leader who was the recipient of the comment (supposedly) later told about this (he was apparently impressed). So we don't know yet if this was really said as the information is second hand, and through translators.
We also don't know if this comment, if it was said, was made because it's the kind of thing that would impress a Muslim. We just don't know. But you're right about the fact that the lefty people have run with this story far longer than the evidence can back it up. But that's the nature of such stories as used by the right and left when it's convenient. What's worse is that when any stories are later proven to be false, or only partially correct, there's rarely a retraction.

Bob t

From: Bill Shatzer (bshatzer@no-spam)
Subject: Re: The United Nations
Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2003 14:26:53 -0700

On Sun, 6 Jul 2003, alohacyberian wrote:

> Neither has Bush claimed that God told him to do anything. A foreign > newspaper, "Ha'aretz" printed a satire that didn't claim any such thing > either,

That would be a foreign -Israeli- newpaper. About Isreal's equivelent of the Washington Post or the LA Times. Not, in other words, a "fringe"
news source.

And it certainly wasn't printed as a "satire" but rather as a straight news article.

Peace and justice,


From: "Baxter" (lbax01.spaminator@no-spam)
Subject: Re: The United Nations
Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2003 17:51:26 -0700

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"Bob Tiernan" <zulu.pacifier.com@no-spam> wrote in message news:Pine.GSO.4.53MAILDIR.0307061308490.22335@no-spam >
> alohacyberian wrote:
>
> > Neither has Bush claimed that God told him to do anything. A foreign > > newspaper, "Ha'aretz" printed a satire that didn't claim any such thing > > either, but, the Leftwing Liberals have become so desperate to grasp any > > hallucinatory straw they can find >
>
> The second part is correct, but the first part isn't.
> The conversation in which the comment was alleged to have > been uttered was behind closed doors, and was not > recorded on tape or video. But the PLO leader who > was the recipient of the comment (supposedly) later > told about this (he was apparently impressed). So > we don't know yet if this was really said as the > information is second hand, and through translators.
> We also don't know if this comment, if it was said, was > made because it's the kind of thing that would > impress a Muslim. We just don't know. But you're > right about the fact that the lefty people have > run with this story far longer than the evidence > can back it up. But that's the nature of > such stories as used by the right and left when > it's convenient. What's worse is that when > any stories are later proven to be false, or > only partially correct, there's rarely a > retraction.
>
Do the "lefties" get to spend 80 million dollars investigating whether he said it or not?


From: nobody (nobody@no-spam)
Subject: Re: The United Nations
Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2003 00:52:10 GMT

In article <vggucvfr5gs94c@no-spam>,
"Baxter" <lbax01.spaminator@no-spam> wrote:

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> > > "alohacyberian" <alohacyberian@no-spam> wrote in message > news:N6QNa.38372$0v4.2803431@no-spam > > "Baxter" <lbax01.spaminator@no-spam> wrote in message > > news:vgdu08d037lebb@no-spam > > > "alohacyberian" <alohacyberian@no-spam> wrote in message > > > news:QPsNa.36738$0v4.2690182@no-spam > > > > "Baxter" <lbax01.spaminator@no-spam> wrote in message > > >
> > > The Clintons haven't gone around claiming that 'God told them to ...'.
> > >
> > > Bush is a nutcase and no amount of whitewashing is going to cover that > up > > > for long.
> > >
> >
> > Neither has Bush claimed that God told him to do anything. A foreign > > newspaper, "Ha'aretz" printed a satire that didn't claim any such thing > > either,
> > Do show that it was satire. I've got references that say Ha'aretz is > Israel's most reputable newspaper.

Reuptable newspapers don't print satires? Is the Miami Herald, for instance, not a reputable newspaper?


From: "alohacyberian" (alohacyberian@no-spam)
Subject: Re: The United Nations
Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2003 22:41:56 GMT

"nobody" <nobody@no-spam> wrote in message news:nobody-152D9B.20540706072003@no-spam > In article <vggucvfr5gs94c@no-spam>,
> "Baxter" <lbax01.spaminator@no-spam> wrote:
> > "alohacyberian" <alohacyberian@no-spam> wrote in message > > news:N6QNa.38372$0v4.2803431@no-spam > > > "Baxter" <lbax01.spaminator@no-spam> wrote in message > > > news:vgdu08d037lebb@no-spam > > > > "alohacyberian" <alohacyberian@no-spam> wrote in message > > > > news:QPsNa.36738$0v4.2690182@no-spam > > > > > "Baxter" <lbax01.spaminator@no-spam> wrote in message > > > >
> > > > The Clintons haven't gone around claiming that 'God told them to ...'.
> > > >
> > > > Bush is a nutcase and no amount of whitewashing is going to cover that > > up > > > > for long.
> > >
> > > Neither has Bush claimed that God told him to do anything. A foreign > > > newspaper, "Ha'aretz" printed a satire that didn't claim any such thing > > > either,
> >
> > Do show that it was satire. I've got references that say Ha'aretz is > > Israel's most reputable newspaper.
>
> Reuptable newspapers don't print satires? Is the Miami Herald, for > instance, not a reputable newspaper?
>
Ha'aretz is the Israeli broadsheet with the highest circulation. You can find links on my webiste at: http://keith.martin.home.att.net/page7.html -
and the newspaper is also printed in English as well as other languages. KM -- (-:alohacyberian:-) At my website there are 3000 live cameras or visit NASA, play games, read jokes, send greeting cards & connect to CNN news, NBA, the White House, Academy Awards or learn all about Hawaii, Israel and more: http://keith.martin.home.att.net/


From: nobody (nobody@no-spam)
Subject: Re: The United Nations
Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 03:10:24 GMT

In article <vgj0v2joqdmbf1@no-spam>,
"Baxter" <lbax01.spaminator@no-spam> wrote:

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> > > "nobody" <nobody@no-spam> wrote in message > news:nobody-152D9B.20540706072003@no-spam > > In article <vggucvfr5gs94c@no-spam>,
> > "Baxter" <lbax01.spaminator@no-spam> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > "alohacyberian" <alohacyberian@no-spam> wrote in message > > > news:N6QNa.38372$0v4.2803431@no-spam > > > > "Baxter" <lbax01.spaminator@no-spam> wrote in message > > > > news:vgdu08d037lebb@no-spam > > > > > "alohacyberian" <alohacyberian@no-spam> wrote in message > > > > > news:QPsNa.36738$0v4.2690182@no-spam > > > > > > "Baxter" <lbax01.spaminator@no-spam> wrote in message > > > > >
> > > > > The Clintons haven't gone around claiming that 'God told them to > ...'.
> > > > >
> > > > > Bush is a nutcase and no amount of whitewashing is going to cover > that > > > up > > > > > for long.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Neither has Bush claimed that God told him to do anything. A foreign > > > > newspaper, "Ha'aretz" printed a satire that didn't claim any such > thing > > > > either,
> > >
> > > Do show that it was satire. I've got references that say Ha'aretz is > > > Israel's most reputable newspaper.
> >
> >
> > Reuptable newspapers don't print satires? Is the Miami Herald, for > > instance, not a reputable newspaper?
> > Read it for yourself - straight news reporting:
> > <http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=310788&contrassID=2&s > ubContrassID=1&sbSubContrassID=0&listSrc=Y>

And that had to do with the Miami Herald, how?


Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 05:01:53 GMT
From: a gay blade (a@no-spam)
Subject: Re: The United Nations

Rabid Mets fan, alohacyberian, cheered ...

> Ha'aretz is the Israeli broadsheet with the highest circulation. You can > find links on my webiste at: http://keith.martin.home.att.net/page7.html -
> and the newspaper is also printed in English as well as other languages. KM
dredel dredel dredel o dredal made of clay...

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From: nobody (nobody@no-spam)
Subject: Re: The United Nations
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 00:30:43 GMT

In article <vgm4ff9u8gdca3@no-spam>,
"Baxter" <lbax01.spaminator@no-spam> wrote:

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> > > "nobody" <nobody@no-spam> wrote in message > news:nobody-F4A3D5.23122307072003@no-spam > > In article <vgj0v2joqdmbf1@no-spam>,
> > "Baxter" <lbax01.spaminator@no-spam> wrote:
> >
> > > "nobody" <nobody@no-spam> wrote in message > > > news:nobody-152D9B.20540706072003@no-spam > > > > In article <vggucvfr5gs94c@no-spam>,
> > > > "Baxter" <lbax01.spaminator@no-spam> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "alohacyberian" <alohacyberian@no-spam> wrote in message > > > > > news:N6QNa.38372$0v4.2803431@no-spam > > > > > > "Baxter" <lbax01.spaminator@no-spam> wrote in message > > > > > > news:vgdu08d037lebb@no-spam > > > > > > > "alohacyberian" <alohacyberian@no-spam> wrote in message > > > > > > >
> news:QPsNa.36738$0v4.2690182@no-spam > > > > > > > > "Baxter" <lbax01.spaminator@no-spam> wrote in message > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The Clintons haven't gone around claiming that 'God told them to > > > ...'.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Bush is a nutcase and no amount of whitewashing is going to > cover > > > that > > > > > up > > > > > > > for long.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Neither has Bush claimed that God told him to do anything. A > foreign > > > > > > newspaper, "Ha'aretz" printed a satire that didn't claim any such > > > thing > > > > > > either,
> > > > >
> > > > > Do show that it was satire. I've got references that say Ha'aretz > is > > > > > Israel's most reputable newspaper.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Reuptable newspapers don't print satires? Is the Miami Herald, for > > > > instance, not a reputable newspaper?
> > >
> > > Read it for yourself - straight news reporting:
> > >
> > >
> <http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=310788&contrassID=2&s > > > ubContrassID=1&sbSubContrassID=0&listSrc=Y>
> >
> >
> > And that had to do with the Miami Herald, how?
> > I thought the issue was about whether the Ha'aretz report was satire.

You thought wrong. What else is new?


From: "alohacyberian" (alohacyberian@no-spam)
Subject: Re: The United Nations
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 10:47:17 GMT

"nobody" <nobody@no-spam> wrote in message news:nobody-CF421B.20324509072003@no-spam > In article <vgm4ff9u8gdca3@no-spam>,
> "Baxter" <lbax01.spaminator@no-spam> wrote:
> > "nobody" <nobody@no-spam> wrote in message > > news:nobody-F4A3D5.23122307072003@no-spam > > > In article <vgj0v2joqdmbf1@no-spam>,
> > > "Baxter" <lbax01.spaminator@no-spam> wrote:
> > > > "nobody" <nobody@no-spam> wrote in message > > > > news:nobody-152D9B.20540706072003@no-spam > > > > > In article <vggucvfr5gs94c@no-spam>,
> > > > > "Baxter" <lbax01.spaminator@no-spam> wrote:
> > > > > > "alohacyberian" <alohacyberian@no-spam> wrote in message > > > > > >
news:N6QNa.38372$0v4.2803431@no-spam > > > > > > > "Baxter" <lbax01.spaminator@no-spam> wrote in message > > > > > > > news:vgdu08d037lebb@no-spam > > > > > > > > "alohacyberian" <alohacyberian@no-spam> wrote in message > > news:QPsNa.36738$0v4.2690182@no-spam > > > > > > > > > "Baxter" <lbax01.spaminator@no-spam> wrote in message > >
> > I thought the issue was about whether the Ha'aretz report was satire.
>
> You thought wrong. What else is new?
>
That's what he gets for thinking when he's not used to it. KM -- (-:alohacyberian:-) At my website there are 3000 live cameras or visit NASA, play games, read jokes, send greeting cards & connect to CNN news, NBA, the White House, Academy Awards or learn all about Hawaii, Israel and more: http://keith.martin.home.att.net/