Further to my statement of yesterday: Now that Apple has released the G5
starting at 1999 USD his G4 400 is worth even less.
In article
<realaddress-053E3B.22084723062003@no-spam>,
Opps <realaddress@no-spam> wrote:
> In article <3EF76756.23B4D7CB@no-spam>, Spot <see@no-spam> wrote:
>
> > You may want to rethink those offers...
> > http://www.apple.com/powermac/
> >
>
> You'll never get this "Punk" to change. I've been trying to negotiate
> with him for a few days. His major problem is: He believes his own
> bullshit, or he bought wrong and he'll be squeeking at the loss.
> I tried to explain that a G4/400 with few toys is just not worth his
> price. A 21 inch Nokia of that vintage will heat your Computer room
> like an oven. Now that could be fine in the winter, but if we have a
> summer like last year, well....
> >
> > Sugarite wrote:
> >
> > > For Sale:
> > > PowerMac G4 tower
> > > 400MHz
> > > AGP graphics (stock 16MB Rage 128 Pro)
> > > 40x Lite-On CD-RW (fully compatible with OS X, bootable etc) 6 month
> > > warranty remaining*
> > > 40GB 7200rpm Maxtor HD, 6 months warranty remaining
> > > 320MB RAM
> > > ZIP drive*
> > > Keyboard, original mouse, and scrollwheel two-button mouse
> > > Software packages for St Lawrence College graphics program are installed
> > > (lots)
> > > Excellent cosmetic condition
> > > *changed from initial post
> > >
> > > All other specs are stock:
> > > http://everymac.com/systems/apple/powermac_g4/stats/powermac_g4_400.html
> > > * Not the gigabit ethernet model as originally posted (my mistake).
> > > This one can operate on an easily modified ATX power supply, so it can be
> > > put into a larger case with stronger power supply and more media bays.
> > >
> > > 21" Nokia monitor
> > > from 1997, cabinet is deep, but great picture, no signs of significant
> > > wear
> > >
> > > Owners are leaving country, located near Kingston ON
> > >
> > > It turns out I'm driving to Toronto on Tuesday the 24th, so let's skip
> > > some
> > > negotiational steps here:
> > > - I know it's frustrating, but even as higher models decline, these
> > > models
> > > are holding their value surprisingly well, and will continue to do so
> > > thanks
> > > to the AGP interface and the fact that there's many more people with
> > > $1200
> > > to spend on a G4 than those with $2000.
> > > - I highly recommend upgrading a Sawtooth G4 like this rather than
> > > getting a
> > > Quicksilver. Many Quicksilvers have a bug in the DDR ram architechture
> > > that
> > > hits Aqua performance hard. I know, I had an 800MHz Quicksilver with
> > > 768mb
> > > ram and a 32mb Radeon 7500, and this Sawtooth ran the Aqua interface just
> > > as
> > > fast in a side-by-side comparison. It was enough to drive me to an
> > > Athlon.
> > > In retrospect I really wish I'd upgraded a Sawtooth, now I'm stuck with
> > > XP...
> > >
> > > New price is $1000 firm on the tower, $1200 including monitor.
> > > After Tuesday it goes on eBay and will very likely fetch $700+US for the
> > > tower since I don't mind driving it down to Watertown NY so US bidders
> > > save
> > > on shipping and no duty.
> > >
> > > 800MHz G4 upgrades are down to around $400, and here's a rom update that
> > > allegedy lets you use a PC Radeon 8500 in a Mac (no guarantees there):
> > > http://www.ati.com/support/drivers/mac/ati-radeon8500-mac-rom-126.html
> > >
> > > Contact sugarite at cogeco dot ca
> > >
> > > Other Mac items coming up for sale (I think...)
> > > G3 All-In-One 266MHz (safely clocked to 292/83.3), 13GB, ZIP, cd-rom, USB
> > > 800MHz G3 Zif upgrade, never opened
> > > Powerbook 2400C 180MHz sub-notebook with ethernet card
> >
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m@no-spam
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 17:34:57 -0400
Hence my post with a link to same.
Manny Pinsky wrote:
> Further to my statement of yesterday: Now that Apple has released the G5
> starting at 1999 USD his G4 400 is worth even less.
>
> In article
> <realaddress-053E3B.22084723062003@no-spam>,
> Opps <realaddress@no-spam> wrote:
>
> > In article <3EF76756.23B4D7CB@no-spam>, Spot <see@no-spam> wrote:
> >
> > > You may want to rethink those offers...
> > > http://www.apple.com/powermac/
> > >
> >
> > You'll never get this "Punk" to change. I've been trying to negotiate
> > with him for a few days. His major problem is: He believes his own
> > bullshit, or he bought wrong and he'll be squeeking at the loss.
> > I tried to explain that a G4/400 with few toys is just not worth his
> > price. A 21 inch Nokia of that vintage will heat your Computer room
> > like an oven. Now that could be fine in the winter, but if we have a
> > summer like last year, well....
> > >
> > > Sugarite wrote:
> > >
> > > > For Sale:
> > > > PowerMac G4 tower
> > > > 400MHz
> > > > AGP graphics (stock 16MB Rage 128 Pro)
> > > > 40x Lite-On CD-RW (fully compatible with OS X, bootable etc) 6 month
> > > > warranty remaining*
> > > > 40GB 7200rpm Maxtor HD, 6 months warranty remaining
> > > > 320MB RAM
> > > > ZIP drive*
> > > > Keyboard, original mouse, and scrollwheel two-button mouse
> > > > Software packages for St Lawrence College graphics program are installed
> > > > (lots)
> > > > Excellent cosmetic condition
> > > > *changed from initial post
> > > >
> > > > All other specs are stock:
> > > > http://everymac.com/systems/apple/powermac_g4/stats/powermac_g4_400.html
> > > > * Not the gigabit ethernet model as originally posted (my mistake).
> > > > This one can operate on an easily modified ATX power supply, so it can be
> > > > put into a larger case with stronger power supply and more media bays.
> > > >
> > > > 21" Nokia monitor
> > > > from 1997, cabinet is deep, but great picture, no signs of significant
> > > > wear
> > > >
> > > > Owners are leaving country, located near Kingston ON
> > > >
> > > > It turns out I'm driving to Toronto on Tuesday the 24th, so let's skip
> > > > some
> > > > negotiational steps here:
> > > > - I know it's frustrating, but even as higher models decline, these
> > > > models
> > > > are holding their value surprisingly well, and will continue to do so
> > > > thanks
> > > > to the AGP interface and the fact that there's many more people with
> > > > $1200
> > > > to spend on a G4 than those with $2000.
> > > > - I highly recommend upgrading a Sawtooth G4 like this rather than
> > > > getting a
> > > > Quicksilver. Many Quicksilvers have a bug in the DDR ram architechture
> > > > that
> > > > hits Aqua performance hard. I know, I had an 800MHz Quicksilver with
> > > > 768mb
> > > > ram and a 32mb Radeon 7500, and this Sawtooth ran the Aqua interface just
> > > > as
> > > > fast in a side-by-side comparison. It was enough to drive me to an
> > > > Athlon.
> > > > In retrospect I really wish I'd upgraded a Sawtooth, now I'm stuck with
> > > > XP...
> > > >
> > > > New price is $1000 firm on the tower, $1200 including monitor.
> > > > After Tuesday it goes on eBay and will very likely fetch $700+US for the
> > > > tower since I don't mind driving it down to Watertown NY so US bidders
> > > > save
> > > > on shipping and no duty.
> > > >
> > > > 800MHz G4 upgrades are down to around $400, and here's a rom update that
> > > > allegedy lets you use a PC Radeon 8500 in a Mac (no guarantees there):
> > > > http://www.ati.com/support/drivers/mac/ati-radeon8500-mac-rom-126.html
> > > >
> > > > Contact sugarite at cogeco dot ca
> > > >
> > > > Other Mac items coming up for sale (I think...)
> > > > G3 All-In-One 266MHz (safely clocked to 292/83.3), 13GB, ZIP, cd-rom, USB
> > > > 800MHz G3 Zif upgrade, never opened
> > > > Powerbook 2400C 180MHz sub-notebook with ethernet card
> > >
>
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> m@no-spam