any recomendations for someone who will recharge r12 system would be
appreciated.
Can't do Gary. Against the law.
I submitted a post last week sometime to another asking the same question.
Please give it a read.
"gary" <gary1234@no-spam> wrote in message news:3f00b22c$1_2@no-spam
> any recomendations for someone who will recharge r12 system would be
> appreciated.
>
>
Incorrect info to whoever told you that, r134a is now available for r-12
systems that won't damage the seals. You no longer need to convert to 134a.
"Likebrews" <likebrews@no-spam> wrote in message
news:OjmMa.36300$x4o.23582@no-spam
> Can't do Gary. Against the law.
>
> I submitted a post last week sometime to another asking the same question.
>
> Please give it a read.
>
> "gary" <gary1234@no-spam> wrote in message news:3f00b22c$1_2@no-spam
> > any recomendations for someone who will recharge r12 system would be
> > appreciated.
> >
> >
>
>
Sorry Mustang; semantics I guess.
Sure we can retro-fit the old R12 AC system to the new R134 gas. First a
leak test is performed to isolate the part that caused the system to be
empty, and then replace it. Changing the seals is a matter of practise to
continue with a leak free system. Retro kits include a special oil that
helps to stabilize the old R12 oil with the R134 gas; otherwise it turns to
acid and eats out the system from inside! Also highly recommended is the
replacement of the receiver/dryer, or some call it an accumulator as it
carries most of the old oil in it.
Not a problem.
Thanks for catching my mistake
"Mustangbrad" <brad@no-spam> wrote in message
news:_SqMa.38728$x4o.19232@no-spam
> Incorrect info to whoever told you that, r134a is now available for r-12
> systems that won't damage the seals. You no longer need to convert to
134a.
>
>
>
>
> "Likebrews" <likebrews@no-spam> wrote in message
> news:OjmMa.36300$x4o.23582@no-spam
> > Can't do Gary. Against the law.
> >
> > I submitted a post last week sometime to another asking the same
question.
> >
> > Please give it a read.
> >
> > "gary" <gary1234@no-spam> wrote in message news:3f00b22c$1_2@no-spam
> > > any recomendations for someone who will recharge r12 system would be
> > > appreciated.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
I don't know where you guys get your information from, but its not illegal
to sell R12. Alot of shops say that, but it's not true. Most DEALERSHIPS
still carry r12. If you don't believe me, go ahead and call. I have a
friend that works for the GM dealership on St Laurent (I'll let you figure
out which)... he not only filled his own car with the r12 gas a few weeks
back, but the gas is readily available. It's mostly used for people who do
engine rebuilds and the compressor has to be disconnected (previously
working), so the r12 gas is purged in a responsible manner first... Since
they cannot legally FORCE the customer to switch to r134a, they have to fill
it with r12.
And anyways, I know a shop in Quebec that still has 16 pounds of r12 last
time I checked... that's the last of it... if you need the name, contact me
by email, as I don't think he'd appreciate me posting it ;)
"Likebrews" <likebrews@no-spam> wrote in message
news:KiKMa.46683$x4o.26931@no-spam
> Sorry Mustang; semantics I guess.
> Sure we can retro-fit the old R12 AC system to the new R134 gas. First a
> leak test is performed to isolate the part that caused the system to be
> empty, and then replace it. Changing the seals is a matter of practise to
> continue with a leak free system. Retro kits include a special oil that
> helps to stabilize the old R12 oil with the R134 gas; otherwise it turns
to
> acid and eats out the system from inside! Also highly recommended is the
> replacement of the receiver/dryer, or some call it an accumulator as it
> carries most of the old oil in it.
> Not a problem.
> Thanks for catching my mistake
>
> "Mustangbrad" <brad@no-spam> wrote in message
> news:_SqMa.38728$x4o.19232@no-spam
> > Incorrect info to whoever told you that, r134a is now available for r-12
> > systems that won't damage the seals. You no longer need to convert to
> 134a.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Likebrews" <likebrews@no-spam> wrote in message
> > news:OjmMa.36300$x4o.23582@no-spam
> > > Can't do Gary. Against the law.
> > >
> > > I submitted a post last week sometime to another asking the same
> question.
> > >
> > > Please give it a read.
> > >
> > > "gary" <gary1234@no-spam> wrote in message
news:3f00b22c$1_2@no-spam
> > > > any recomendations for someone who will recharge r12 system would be
> > > > appreciated.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
Walmart in States - R134A conversion kit around $40
gary wrote:
> any recomendations for someone who will recharge r12 system would be
> appreciated.
>
>
I will say it again: it is ILLEGAL to fill/refill a refrigerant system with
R12 (Freon) gas, in Ontario.
I happen to carry a license provided by the Ontario Gov't, and enforced by
the CDN Gov't, in the use of refrigerants.
If you know anyone still filling systems with it, you should go around the
corner to the more responsible station, and have your work done there...
The place where I work carries some poundage of R12, it's not much, but it
is all recovered from retrofitted systems. None is introduced to any system
that requires repair. Some day it will all have to go to get reclaimed and
broken down to elements that are not environmentally dangerous.
Have you not noticed that supplies of R12 gas are dwindling? That's because
the manufacturers(eg: GM, Dupont) have been specifically told that they
can't make it anymore(since 1996), and if they do, they will face stiff
penalties. I'm well aware that R12 gas sells for around $200/pound right
now, and that's only because it is an illegal item. At that price it's
actually cheaper to repair the leaking part and retro-fit! After this
summer, supplies will all have gone to atmosphere, to encourage the ozone
hole. After that, there will not be much choice but to upgrade to the newer,
safer gas, that is readily available at a price around $10/pound.
Please don't get mad at me for being environmentally concious. It's my job,
and possibly our future...
"Vyacheslav L Zavadsky" <zavadsky@no-spam> wrote in message
news:3F0391FE.6000904@no-spam
> Walmart in States - R134A conversion kit around $40
>
>
> gary wrote:
> > any recomendations for someone who will recharge r12 system would be
> > appreciated.
> >
> >
>
I don't blame you. But what I'm saying is that it's not illegal to sell it
to consumers, its just illegal to produce it, and sell it to garages.
"Likebrews" <likebrews@no-spam> wrote in message
news:0KMMa.49439$x4o.39167@no-spam
> I will say it again: it is ILLEGAL to fill/refill a refrigerant system
with
> R12 (Freon) gas, in Ontario.
>
> I happen to carry a license provided by the Ontario Gov't, and enforced by
> the CDN Gov't, in the use of refrigerants.
>
> If you know anyone still filling systems with it, you should go around the
> corner to the more responsible station, and have your work done there...
>
> The place where I work carries some poundage of R12, it's not much, but it
> is all recovered from retrofitted systems. None is introduced to any
system
> that requires repair. Some day it will all have to go to get reclaimed and
> broken down to elements that are not environmentally dangerous.
>
> Have you not noticed that supplies of R12 gas are dwindling? That's
because
> the manufacturers(eg: GM, Dupont) have been specifically told that they
> can't make it anymore(since 1996), and if they do, they will face stiff
> penalties. I'm well aware that R12 gas sells for around $200/pound right
> now, and that's only because it is an illegal item. At that price it's
> actually cheaper to repair the leaking part and retro-fit! After this
> summer, supplies will all have gone to atmosphere, to encourage the ozone
> hole. After that, there will not be much choice but to upgrade to the
newer,
> safer gas, that is readily available at a price around $10/pound.
>
> Please don't get mad at me for being environmentally concious. It's my
job,
> and possibly our future...
>
> "Vyacheslav L Zavadsky" <zavadsky@no-spam> wrote in message
> news:3F0391FE.6000904@no-spam
> > Walmart in States - R134A conversion kit around $40
> >
> >
> > gary wrote:
> > > any recomendations for someone who will recharge r12 system would be
> > > appreciated.
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>