As of today -- at long last -- truth no longer will play second fiddle
to the fiction, fantasy and fairy tales that have been dished out
for more than a century about man's origin and ancestry.
It marks the official end of the deceit, deception, collusion and
conspiracy that has long been perpetrated by arrogant, egotistical
members of the Scientific Establshment in and out of its hallowed
Halls of Learning.
Their monumental hoax on mankind has met its match with the
presentation of undeniable physical evidence that, multi-millions of
years ago, the good earth wasn't anything like what has long
been depicted by the scientific community.
For one thing, man -- in almost our present form -- existed while
coal was being formed, and our ancestors lived alongside
giant scorpions, dinosaurs and beasts with six-inch-high canine
teeth.
And man and animals had one thing in common. Both were
annihilated in some incredible catastrophe that blew them limb
from limb and scattered their bones, teeth and soft organs
in all directions..
What happened next is a testament to the late, great Immanuel
Velikovsky who, more than a half-century ago, said the true story
of earth's -- and man's -- past is written in the rocks, visible for
all to see as part of the fossil record.
Eons ago -- before coal hardened -- some sort of fluid engulfed the
bones, teeth and soft organs just after the great catastrophe, causing
them to petrifiy and now offer a mindboggling horror story of
mankind's distant past.
That man existed during the Carboniferous Period also offers
proof that we could not possibly have evolved as suggested
by the Darwin Theory.
Rightly so, because the theory of the evolution of man never
possessed a shred of physical evidence in the first place.
Man could not -- and did not -- become such a magnificent machine
by a series of incredible accidents of nature since it's an
astronomical mathematical absurdity.
Even Charles Darwin had a sneaky suspicion his theory was full
of hot air.
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/truth/tosuppose.gif
But, since we were spoon-fed such pablum -- the evolution of man --
by members of the omniscient Scientific Establishment, most of us
ate up every word. These pompous asses were neither to be
questioned nor challenged.
About a year after finding my first specimen of petrified bone between
coal veins in June 1981, I couldn't believe the incedible resistence
I was encountering in my pursuit of honest investigation.
My longtime friend, Clayton Lennon (1900-1996), warned me it
wouldn't be easy and one day, between puffs of his cigar,
summed up my despair quite eloquently .
> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/coalbones/edyournot.gif
Meanwhile, as their noses continued to grow, so also did the
arrogance of members of the Scientific Establishment who had
long lost the goal of a search for truth. The only important thing
to them, I soon learned, was to make no waves and concentrate
on protecting their vested interests.
Over time, they had become incredibly ruthless and bold, really
believing that -- as members of omnipotent Acadamia -- they could
do anything they damn well pleased and answer to no one..
Since I have had a ringside seat over these past 22 years, I assure
you that it has included not only denial of physical evidence that
could -- would -- destroy the theory of the evolution of man but
actually tampering with that evidence -- and I have come right out
and named names.
Then, with brass testacles, the criminals were actually belitting
the victim, with character assassination leveled like a Gatling gun.
And even worse, the assault on truth was adamantly defended by
their colleagues.
Fortunately, for your grandchildren and mine, that day is over.
The pseudoscientists' day of reckoning has finally arrived.
But it comes as no surprise. After all, they had been forewarned:
>> http://edconrad.com/canals/hooton.gif
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TRUTH FINALLY CATCHES UP TO THE PERPETRATORS
OF DECEIT, DECEPTION, COLLUSION AND CONSPIRACY
===================================================
>> MAN AS OLD AS COAL
>> All Specimens Found Between Anthracite Veins
(Strata geologically dated at a minimum of 280 million years)
Here are just a few of the thousands upon thousands of specimens
of petrified bones, teeth and/or even soft organs -- some human --
that I have discovered between two separate anthracite veins
in Northeastern Pennsylvania over the past 22 years.
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith/z11calv.jpg
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Petrified/z8femur.jpg
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Petrified/z5gall.jpg
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Petrified/newtibia.jpg
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Petrified/skullb.jpg
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Petrified/z9lung.jpg
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/brain/MVC-001S.JPG
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Petrified/1tooth.jpg
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Newpix3/z3dino.jpg
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Petrified/MVC-013F.JPG
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/pp/MVC-022S.JPG
Strange, according to scientific doctrine, they couldn't possibly
have been found in Carboniferous strata, dated at a minimum
of 280 million years.
You see, every scientific tex book insists that no large land
animals, let alone man, existed back then. Hell, man wouldn't begin
evolving until multi-millions of years later, the pseudos proclaimed.
But the incredible arsenal of petrified bones, teeth and even soft
organs proves -- beyond doubt -- that man and large land animals
indeed had been around when coal was being formed. Otherwise,
their mortal remains could not have been preserved between layers
of anthracite as the result of a catastrophe beyond our wildest
imagination.
And, since this is the grim evidence that a catastrophe happened
before, there is NO question that it could happen again.
Velikovsky provided evidence of catastrophes in his two books,
"Worlds in Collision" and "Earth in Upheaval," published back
in the early 1950s. In them, he offered undeniable evidence of
calamities beyond human comprehension but was ridiculed
and badmouthed by members of the Scientific Establishment.
Here's a copy of these two books, in paperback, and an explanation
why Velikovsky was treated with scorn and contempt, which is how
members of the Scientific Establishment have treated me for the last
21 1/2 years.
>> ====================================================
>> http://edconrad.com/ebay/Petrifiedx/MVC-010S.JPG
>> http://edconrad.com/ebay/Petrifiedx/MVC-011S.JPG
>> ====================================================
A longtime newspaperman, I figured -- when realizing I was getting
the shaft from the Scientific Establishment -- I'd get a fair shake
from newspapers in an effort to tell my story.
I thought the editors would be genuinely interested in what might've
sounded like a farfetched story, except that it was backed up by
petrified bones, teeth and soft organs as old as coal.
Reporters from the Allentown (Pa.) Call-Chronicle and Las Vegas
Sun, to mention just two, were greatly impressed. But when their
stories appeared in print, it took my breath away. The articles were
completely negative, making me look like that proverbial horse's
ass.
Naturally, there was nothing I could do about it, so I had to give up
on newspapers completely. I had long known the New York Times,
Washington Post and Philadelphia Inquirer wouldn't touch it because
they had several opportunities to do so but bowed to their vested
interests and ignored me.
Ditto for the TV network news shows like "60 Minutes."
For the longest time, it appeared the world would never know the truth
about the catastrophe that decimated both man and animal while coal
was being formed.
Then a miracle happened -- along came the Internet. It gave me a way
to reach the pubic but, of course, the public wasn't paying attention
because members of the Scientific Establishment kept making me
look like a fool and an imbecile.
And, if you recall, they had been doing a mighty fine job of it
right up until yesterday. That's when members of the Scientific
Establishment got the second biggest shock of their lives, dwarfed
only by the attack on the Twin Towers.
Suddenly overnight, with the presentation of an arsenal of physical
evidence, the ridicule and character assassination have eased
somewhat.
Suddenly, their cannons ran out of ammunition, accusations that
I'm a liar and a fraud.
Suddenly, these Clown Princes of Sciences -- long having made
a joke at the expense of sacred Science -- finally realized that
their involvement in deceit, deception, collusion and conspiracy
has caught up with them.
These Omniscient Buffoons have defended their colleagues
who, with incredible audacity, have made a mockery of physical
evidence, totally ignoring it and sometimes even tampering with it.
Thomas Alva Edison probably put in a nutshell what they were
doing for so long, and my dear friend Clayton was right on target,
too.
> http://edconrad.com/oldascoal/images/quotesnew.gif
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>========= SOME OF THE SPECIMENS =========
===========================================
The following is the very first discovery of petrified bone in
coal-bearing Carboniferous strata in June 1981.
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith1/first.jpg
The specimen, which I found by accident, resembled a giant skull
and the Smithsonian expressed an interest after receiving a photo,
inviting me to bring it down to Washington so it could be examined
firsthand.
Three of its "experts" -- an anthropologist, a paleontologist and a
geologist -- looked it over carefully but, after a few minutes,
concurred that it was nothing more than a rock or concretion,
certainly nothng that had ever lived.
No one mentioned that a microscopic study of the specimen's
cellular structure would accurately identify whether it is or is not
bone. (I had no knowledge of this fact at the time and wouldn't
be aware of it until many months later)
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/brain/textbook.gif
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Newpix3/thefactthat.gif
In any event, while preparing to leave the Smithsonian, I politely
asked if they would want to keep the specimen, perhaps to break
apart the jaw-like area to see if teeth could be found inside. The
three "experts" -- Joseph Brown and Robert McCurdy, the only
two names I remember -- laughed at me and said it would be
an absolute waste of their time.
About a month later -- rather discouraged -- I decided to search
the interior of the jaw-like area on my own. It began with a nail
to penetrate the rock hardness, then using all sorts of small tools
to reach inside and, strangely, begin pulling out what resembled
brownish dirt.
I was mysified that some sort of cavity existed and contacted
the Smithsonian about this -- but was ignored.
After several weeks of part-time labor, I found a pair of peculiar
objects inside. Photos were taken, greatly enlarged and sent to
Krogman, the bone expert.
Our friendship had begun months previous when I had driven
to Lancaster to show him the first strange secimen I had found
that had come from between coal veins -- the large skull that
the Smithsonian later dismissed as a rock.
Krogman studied the photo of the inclusion and then told me over
the phone that the object is definitely a premolar tooth because
"I can see a pair of cusps."
Here's the photo that Krogman had examined, with the dime
offering an indication of size.
>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Tool/MVC-014S.JPG
The photo below shows another view of where the premolar was
attached.
>>> http://edconrad.com/oldascoal/images/z1.jpg
Krogman suggested an infrared scan be performed and it was done
at American Medical Laboratories in Chantilly, Va. Here's the result
of the test:
>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/coalbones/graph.gif
This is what the laboratory stated in its official report:
>> http://edconrad.com/ebay/Newpix3/result.gif
It meant that the inclusion in the jaw-like area was neither rock
nor concretion but something that once lived.
When the scan was interpreted later, this fact was confirmed.
>> http://edconrad.com/oldascoal/images/compatible.gif
It also should be emphasized that microscopic study of the
skull-like object was conducted and Haversian canals -- miniscule
circles, the tell-tale sign of bone -- were visible.
It had prompted Krogman, at one point, to offer great encourgement,
as he followed the discoveries with great interest.:
>> http://www.edconrad.com/oldascoal/images/krogquote.gif
>>============================================
The following specimen was identified by Krogman as a petrified
human calvarium -- a skull with the eyesockets broken off -- after
he personally had examined it and even measured it with
caliphers, expressing pleasure with the results..
Krogman, who was personally invited by the Egyptian government
to be present when a Pharoah's tomb was opened years before, is
shown holding the calvarium in the second photo.
>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith/z11calv.jpg
>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith/krogwskull.jpg
Moments after this photo was taken of Krogman with the specimen,
an associate -- a medical doctor -- walked into his office at the
Cooper Clinic in Lancaster, Pa., and he told him to come closer
to see "the oldest human skull ever found."
Two other photos of the specimen:
>>
>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith/MVC-006S.JPG
>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith/MVC-007S.JPG
Meanwhile, a CATscan revealed a second protrusion not visible
o the naked eye but located precisely where it would be expected
to be found in a human cranium.
Here's a copy of that scan:
>> http://www.edconrad.com/images/catcalv.jpg
This specimen also tested positive for the presence of Haversian
canals under microscopic scrutiny.
Additionally, American Medical Laboratories performed testing
of calculus analysis by crystallography on the specimen and
found "a composition of dried blood intermingled with a few
small crystals resembling calcium oxalate dihydrate."
>>
The laboratory's official report follows:
>>
>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/AML/MVC-012S.JPG
>>=============================================
Another petrified human cranium was found approximately
a year later only a short distance from where the human
calvarium was discovered.
It was -- still is -- embedded in a boulder that must weigh at
least 3,000 pounds.
>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith/skulla.jpg
>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith/skullb.jpg
>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith1/other1.jpg
>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith/z2_2.jpg
The Smithsonian was sent a photograph and Raymond Rye,
musem specialist, replied in writing: "The object ... does resemble
the outline of a human skull ... We must do a microscopic study
of the outer rind to determine if it has the structure of bone."
>
>> http://edconrad.com/oldascoal/images/rr072782.gif
>
The Smithsonian had been mailed granules, as requested, then
weeks later replied: "X-ray analysis of the material reveals it to be
quartz, the most abundant material of the earth's crust. So, although
the enigmatic object exposed in the boulder may resemble a hominid
skull, its mineral compostion is definitely not that of bone."
>> http://edconrad.com/oldascoal/images/rr090982.gif
The fact is, "x-ray analysis" is NOTan appropriate test to identify
the presence or absence of cellular structure.
Later, a microcopic photo of granules removed from the specimen
revealed the presence of Haversian canals. (Actually, I knew they
did ahead of time because I had examined other granules
microscopically before sending them to the Smithsonian.)
Here's one of those microscopic photos of the cell structure:
>> http://www.edconrad.com/oldascoal/images/proof1.jpg
>==================================================
This is a petrified human femur still embedded in shale, a near-cousin
of coal. Portions of the bulb ends have broken off.
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith/z6femur.jpg
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith/z8femur.jpg
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith1/z7femur.jpg
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Spec/MVC-001S.JPG
Since a femur measures approximately one-fourth of a human
being's height, the femur belonged to someone at least 7 1/2-foot
tall.
>>=====================================================
This specimen was identified as a portion of a tibia by Krogman
and was subjected to one of the greatest cover-ups in the history
of science.
>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith/newtibia.jpg
Andrew Macrae, then of Calgary University, performed fraudulent
testing when entrusted to examine its cellular structure and publish
the microscopic photos on his web page. Instead. he posted
microscopic photos of a rock or a concretion.
Macrae undoubtedly was advised and assisted by Paul Myers, then
of Temple University in Philadelphia and now at the University of
Minnesota.
When charged with participating in the scam, Myers adamantly denied
it. Then, when I suggested officials of Temple University check their
long-distance telephone calls during the time that Macrae was
"testing" the specimen in the summer of 1996, Myers suddenly admitted
in the talk.origins news group that he had made many phone calls
to Calgary University in that time span but on other business.
>>
It didn't end there. Myers later admitted in talk.origins that he had
FLOWN to Calgary one weekend during that same time period and had
spent time on campus. He said he didn't even have a chance to say
hello to Macrae, claiming he was there on other business.
Here are two additional photos of the portion of the petrified tibia,
(known as EC96-001 for Macrae's fraudulent testing purposes).
>>
>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/fossil/z15tib2.jpg
>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/fossil/z15tib1.jpg
In addition, a scanning electronic microscope (SEM) was used
to examine the interior surface features of this specimen and then
compare it with cadaver bone at the same power magnification. These
are the photos at 2,000-times magnification:.
>>> http://edconrad.com/oldascoal/images/bones.jpg
(They would look incredibly similiar if the grains were lying in
exactly the same direction.)
The left photo in the first URL below shows what Andrew Macrae
posted on his web page, claiming it was the cell structure of
C96-001 and nothing like bone should look like (in the right photo).
The next two photos show EC96-001's true cell structure.
>>> http://www.edconrad.com/canals/ts_compare1.jpg
>>> http://edconrad.com/canals/slide1.jpg
>>> http://www.edconrad.com/canals/0505160x.jpg
>>
It was just one of several fraudulent maneuvers perpetrated
by members of the Scientifiic Establishment over the past 21 1/2
years when the first specimen -- the large petrified skull -- was
discovered.
Additionally, American Medical Laboratories performed calculus
analysis by crystallography on EC96-001 and determined that it
"consisted predominately of dried blood and protein."
That report follows:
>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/AML/MVC-006S.JPG
>>==============================================
Here's an assorment of miscellaneous specimens, primarily portions
of petrified mandibles (jaw bones), found between the same coal veins:
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Bones/MVC-006S.JPG
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Bones/MVC-010S.JPG
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Bones/MVC-003S.JPG
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Bones/MVC-004S.JPG
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Bones/MVC-005S.JPG
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Bones/MVC-007S.JPG
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Bones/MVC-008S.JPG
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Bones/MVC-009S.JPG
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Bones/MVC-011S.JPG
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Here's a petrified human lung found between coal veins.
>>
>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Tool/MVC-015S.JPG
>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Tool/MVC-016S.JPG
>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Tool/MVC-017S.JPG
>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Tool/MVC-018S.JPG
>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Tool/MVC-019S.JPG
A lung is a soft organ and, as such, many cnotend it can never
petrify. However, in recent years it was established conclusively
that soft organs can indeed be subjected to the petrification process.
>>============================================
Here's a petrified gall bladder, and a CATscan revealed the presence
of a gall stone inside.
>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith/z5gall.jpg
This is one of the specimens that also was tested at American
Medical Laboratories via calculus analysis by crystallography.
It revealed the specimen "consists of a few small pieces of dried
blood," adding that "none of the constituents normally found
in urinary calculi are present." (which comes as no surprise since
the specimen it tested is petrified).
That report follows:
>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/AML/MVC-010S.JPG
>==============================================
This is a petrified human brain (one hemisphere):
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/brain/MVC-001S.JPG
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/brain/MVC-002S.JPG
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/brain/MVC-003S.JPG
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/brain/MVC-004S.JPG
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/brain/MVC-005S.JPG
>============================================
Here's another petrified bone (a knee?):
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/brain/MVC-012S.JPG
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/brain/MVC-013S.JPG
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/brain/MVC-014S.JPG
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/brain/MVC-015S.JPG
>=============================================
Here are a pair of petrified fetuses.The large one, which has
been transformed to a coal-like substance, measures 6 1/2
inches in length.
>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Tool/MVC-010S.JPG
>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Tool/MVC-011S.JPG
>===============================================
Here's a portion of a dinosaur foot embedded in slate (or shale):
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Newpix3/z3dino.jpg
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Tool/MVC-013S.JPG
It should be noted that a third "toe" was later found embedded
in the slate where it would be expected to be. A video tape exists
showing the top cover of slate patiently being removed, revealing
the third "toe" just beneath the surface.
I should mention that the petrified femur and petrifed dinosaur
foot remain as you see them -- still embedded in slate (or shale)
-- the way they were steamshoveled from between coal veins.
They are somewhere in this photo, taken from approximately five
miles up, of scar-marked land that was strip-mined of its coal. But
those remarkable discoveries are still there if you'd like to search.
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/coalbones/MVC-015S.JPG
>=============================================
Here's a petrified handcrafted wooden handle which has been
transformed to anthracite. It also was found between the same
two coal veins.
>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Tool/MVC-001S.JPG
>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Tool/MVC-002S.JPG
>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Tool/MVC-004S.JPG
>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Tool/MVC-003S.JPG
>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Tool/MVC-005S.JPG
>>============================================
Here's a portion of petrified bone still embedded in slate,
confirming that it's older than the material in which it was encased.
Obviously, that material had to be fluid or in a fluidy state for
something to harden around it.
>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith1/MVC-014S.JPG
>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith1/MVC-015S.JPG
>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith1/MVC-016S.JPG
>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith1/MVC-017S.JPG
>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith1/MVC-018S.JPG
>>============================================
Here's a giant canine tooth, found between the same coal veins:
>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Petrified/1tooth.jpg
>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Vel1/MVC-009S.JPG
>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Vel1/MVC-007S.JPG
>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Vel1/MVC-008S.JPG
>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Vel1/MVC-006S.JPG
>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Vel1/MVC-010S.JPG
(I accidentally dropped the giant tooth on the sidewalk in Hazleton,
Pa. -- too heavy for the paper bag --and the tip broke off but the
two pieces fit together almost perfectly.)
>>==================================================
Here's another petrified fetus, this one still embedded in slate (or
shale).
>>http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Day/MVC-005S.JPG
>>http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Day/MVC-002S.JPG
>>http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Day/MVC-004S.JPG
>================================================
The following is a portion of a giant prehistoric scorpion that was
identified as such by Wilton Krogman.
When the world famous bone expert examined this specimen
found between coal veins, he first urned to me and mentioned
that he had performed countless disections of scorpions in college.
"What you have, Mr. Conrad (never Ed), is a portion of a giant
prehistoric scorpion," he told me.
When discovered, the specimen was broken in two parts but they
fit together perfectly.
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Scorpion/MVC-001S.JPG
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Scorpion/MVC-022S.JPG
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Scorpion/MVC-020S.JPG
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Scorpion/MVC-008S.JPG
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Scorpion/MVC-017S.JPG
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/fossilxx/MVC-006S.JPG
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Scorpion/MVC-021S.JPG
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Scorpion/MVC-009S.JPG
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Scorpion/MVC-019S.JPG
This particular specimen was the subject of another cover-up
by members of the Scientific Establishment -- the Department of
Entomology at Penn State University.
Penn State actually has batted 0-for-3 with its attempted
cover-ups of my specimens: First, its Department of Paleontology
(Roger Cuffey); Second, its Department of Anthropology (Robert
Eckardt). Third, its Department of Entomology (Charles Pitts).
>>===========================================
One of the specimens found between anthracite veins was positively
identified as petrified bone by the Yerkes Regional Primate Research
Center at Emory University in Atlanta, Ga., which Krogman described
as "the most prestigious institution of its kind in the world."
Jeremy Dahl, one of its bone experts who examined and tested it,
even put it in writing and signed his name, also making a drawing
of the specimen that he had examined and tested..
>>
>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith/YERKES1.TIF
>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith/YERKES2.TIF
>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith/YERKES3.TIF
Dahl definitely had examined the specimen's cell structure because
he had cut off a slice while it was is possession.
>=================================================
Here's another petrified hominid jaw, the frontal portion. Inclusions
are embedded in it, possibly teeth or even part of the tongue.
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Newpix5/MVC-002S.JPG
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Newpix5/MVC-001S.JPG
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Newpix5/MVC-003S.JPG
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Newpix5/MVC-004S.JPG
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Newpix5/MVC-005S.JPG
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Newpix5/MVC-006S.JPG
>>================================================
This is a piece of petrified wood that had been transformed into
coal-like material. It was handcarved, probably to make a tool
or a weapon.
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Petrified/MVC-001S.JPG
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Petrified/MVC-002S.JPG
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Petrified/MVC-003S.JPG
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Petrified/MVC-004S.JPG
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Petrified/MVC-005S.JPG
Here's another soft organ that had petrified:
>>
>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/fossilx/MVC-008S.JPG
>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/fossilx/MVC-011S.JPG
>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/fossilx/MVC-010S.JPG
>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/fossilx/MVC-009S.JPG
>>=============================================
Here are what appear to be petrified eggs. About eight of them
were found together more than 200 feet below the original
surface of the ground (on the side wall of a stripping pit).
>>
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/AML/MVC-021F.JPG
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/AML/MVC-022F.JPG
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/AML/MVC-023F.JPG
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/AML/MVC-024F.JPG
Here's where they were found: (that's a bulldozer):
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/quote/MVC-015S.JPG
>>==========================================
Here are other specimens of petrified bone embedded in slate.
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith1/MVC-014S.JPG
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith1/MVC-015S.JPG
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith1/MVC-018S.JPG
>===========================================
Here are two strange specimens, almost similiar. What makes them
so intriguing is that they were found between anthracite veins some
40 miles apart -- one near Shenandoah and the other near Wilkes-Barre.
>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/fossilx/MVC-016S.JPG
>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/fossilx/MVC-017S.JPG
>>===============================================
Here are three intriguing specimens:
(For the kids' sake, let's call 'em the three tenors.)
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Vel1/MVC-004S.JPG
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Vel1/MVC-005S.JPG
>>===============================================
The late, great Raymond Dart, MD., relished the opportunity to examine
some of the specimens after Krogman had informed him about them.
This photo shows Dart holding what Krogman identified as a calvarium,
a human cranium with the eye sockets broken off.
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/fossilx/dart.jpg
Here's Raymond Dart's letter:
> ===============================================
>>>
>>> 28 October, 1983
>>>
>>> Dear Mr. Conrad:
>>>
>>> This is being written as a follow-up to our meeting here in
>>> Philadelphia on Saturday, Oct. 15, during which I had the
>>> opportunity to examine many of the rock-like objects you
>>> had discovered in the coal fields of Pennsylvania, near
>>> Shenandoah.
>>>
>>> In my opinion, the vast majority bear the contour of bone
>>> and may well be petrified bone.
>>>
>>> I was particularly intrigued by one of your specimens which
>>> I agree bears a distinct resemblance to a dainosaur head
>>> or a homind skullcap, heavily petrified.
>>>
>>> Based on our vast ignorance about vulconology, as regards
>>> both anatomy and anthropology, I am of the opinion that your
>>> findings definitely warrant intense investigation by that subject's
>>> foremost experts, especially here in America where so many
>>> volcanic disturbances occur even today.
>>>
>>> Yours sincerely,
>>> Raymond A. Dart (signed)
>>>
>>> Raymond A. Dart, M.D.
>>> Institute of Man
>>> The Institutes for the Achievement of Human Potential
>>> 8801 Stenton Avenue
>>> Philadelphia, Pa. 19118
Here's a photo of Raymond Dart with Ed Conrad (the photo was
taken by a house painter who obliged by decending a ladder
to do so.)
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/coalbones/wdart.jpg
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Vel1/MVC-002S.JPG
> ===============================================
That man co-existed with dinosaurs -- back while anthracite was
being formed -- gains credence with these photos of a petrified
dinosaur foot embedded in slate.
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith/z3dino.jpg
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/fossilxx/Dfoot.jpg
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/fossil/MVC-039S.JPG
>>===========================================
Another petrified fetus, still embedded in slate:
>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/fossilxx/MVC-001S.JPG
>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/fossilxx/MVC-002S.JPG
>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/fossilxx/MVC-003S.JPG
>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/fossilxx/MVC-004S.JPG
>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/fossilxx/MVC-005S.JPG
>===============================================
Another specimen embedded in slate:
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/coalbones/inslate1.jpg
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/coalbones/inslate5.jpg
The original Easter bunny? Then, again, it might be the head
of a petrified jackass. And, IF it is, it would be rather appropriate.
The Scientific Establishment -- led by its worldwide brood of
arrogant, defiant tenured fossils -- has long been treating
John Q. Public, and his kids, like a jackass, promoting fairy tales
and molesting truth.
Over the past 22 years, it has engaged in deceit, deception, collusion
and conspiracy -- of MONUMENTAL proportions -- and one of the
ringleaders has been the Smithsonian Institution.
>================================================
>================================================
And here's my final thought (three pictures should be worth
2,000 words):
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Vel1/MVC-001S.JPG
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Vel1/MVC-002S.JPG
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Vel1/MVC-003S.JPG
No question, members of the scientific establishment academia
-- professors, students and alumni -- have long been fearful
of me and my discoveries because of the dire consequences
they realized what truth would bring.
And well they should have been because now that time has
come. They're finally being put in their place and recognized
for the total disgrace to science that they have been.
NOW they're not just *afraid* of Ed Conrad. They're terrified.
Ed Conrad
> http://www.edconrad.com
Man as Old as Coal
and
Proof of Life After Death
P.S.:
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/quote/MVC-014S.JPG
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/quote/MVC-008S.JPG
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/quote/MVC-013S.JPG
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/quote/MVC-011S.JPG
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/quote/MVC-012S.JPG
>> http://edconrad.com/ebay/coalbones/zedjaw.jpg
"Go USA! Go Israel!" <makemewell75@no-spam> wrote in message
news:10077089.0307040602.561f7263@no-spam
> Adam and Eve were said to have many sons and daughters.
How did Adam and Eve get to have grandchildren? Did their sons and
daughters have sex with each other? They must have, there was no one else
to have sex with.
> In both cases, it's 1/3 of the angels that were kicked out of
> heaven with satan, when he rebelled.
Is this in the Bible? Would you mind providing chapter and verse?
Ed: Get your crap out of <ott.general>! Why on earth pick on
Canuckistanians???
"Ed Conrad" <edconrad@no-spam> wrote in message
news:3f04d8a1.9553191@no-spam
As of today -- at long last -- truth no longer will play second fiddle
to the fiction, fantasy and fairy tales that have been dished out
for more than a century about man's origin and ancestry.
It marks the official end of the deceit, deception, collusion and
conspiracy that has long been perpetrated by arrogant, egotistical
members of the Scientific Establshment in and out of its hallowed
Halls of Learning.
Their monumental hoax on mankind has met its match with the
presentation of undeniable physical evidence that, multi-millions of
years ago, the good earth wasn't anything like what has long
been depicted by the scientific community.
For one thing, man -- in almost our present form -- existed while
coal was being formed, and our ancestors lived alongside
giant scorpions, dinosaurs and beasts with six-inch-high canine
teeth.
And man and animals had one thing in common. Both were
annihilated in some incredible catastrophe that blew them limb
from limb and scattered their bones, teeth and soft organs
in all directions..
What happened next is a testament to the late, great Immanuel
Velikovsky who, more than a half-century ago, said the true story
of earth's -- and man's -- past is written in the rocks, visible for
all to see as part of the fossil record.
Eons ago -- before coal hardened -- some sort of fluid engulfed the
bones, teeth and soft organs just after the great catastrophe, causing
them to petrifiy and now offer a mindboggling horror story of
mankind's distant past.
That man existed during the Carboniferous Period also offers
proof that we could not possibly have evolved as suggested
by the Darwin Theory.
Rightly so, because the theory of the evolution of man never
possessed a shred of physical evidence in the first place.
Man could not -- and did not -- become such a magnificent machine
by a series of incredible accidents of nature since it's an
astronomical mathematical absurdity.
Even Charles Darwin had a sneaky suspicion his theory was full
of hot air.
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/truth/tosuppose.gif
But, since we were spoon-fed such pablum -- the evolution of man --
by members of the omniscient Scientific Establishment, most of us
ate up every word. These pompous asses were neither to be
questioned nor challenged.
About a year after finding my first specimen of petrified bone between
coal veins in June 1981, I couldn't believe the incedible resistence
I was encountering in my pursuit of honest investigation.
My longtime friend, Clayton Lennon (1900-1996), warned me it
wouldn't be easy and one day, between puffs of his cigar,
summed up my despair quite eloquently .
> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/coalbones/edyournot.gif
Meanwhile, as their noses continued to grow, so also did the
arrogance of members of the Scientific Establishment who had
long lost the goal of a search for truth. The only important thing
to them, I soon learned, was to make no waves and concentrate
on protecting their vested interests.
Over time, they had become incredibly ruthless and bold, really
believing that -- as members of omnipotent Acadamia -- they could
do anything they damn well pleased and answer to no one..
Since I have had a ringside seat over these past 22 years, I assure
you that it has included not only denial of physical evidence that
could -- would -- destroy the theory of the evolution of man but
actually tampering with that evidence -- and I have come right out
and named names.
Then, with brass testacles, the criminals were actually belitting
the victim, with character assassination leveled like a Gatling gun.
And even worse, the assault on truth was adamantly defended by
their colleagues.
Fortunately, for your grandchildren and mine, that day is over.
The pseudoscientists' day of reckoning has finally arrived.
But it comes as no surprise. After all, they had been forewarned:
>> http://edconrad.com/canals/hooton.gif
==================================================
TRUTH FINALLY CATCHES UP TO THE PERPETRATORS
OF DECEIT, DECEPTION, COLLUSION AND CONSPIRACY
===================================================
>> MAN AS OLD AS COAL
>> All Specimens Found Between Anthracite Veins
(Strata geologically dated at a minimum of 280 million years)
Here are just a few of the thousands upon thousands of specimens
of petrified bones, teeth and/or even soft organs -- some human --
that I have discovered between two separate anthracite veins
in Northeastern Pennsylvania over the past 22 years.
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith/z11calv.jpg
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Petrified/z8femur.jpg
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Petrified/z5gall.jpg
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Petrified/newtibia.jpg
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Petrified/skullb.jpg
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Petrified/z9lung.jpg
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/brain/MVC-001S.JPG
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Petrified/1tooth.jpg
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Newpix3/z3dino.jpg
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Petrified/MVC-013F.JPG
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/pp/MVC-022S.JPG
Strange, according to scientific doctrine, they couldn't possibly
have been found in Carboniferous strata, dated at a minimum
of 280 million years.
You see, every scientific tex book insists that no large land
animals, let alone man, existed back then. Hell, man wouldn't begin
evolving until multi-millions of years later, the pseudos proclaimed.
But the incredible arsenal of petrified bones, teeth and even soft
organs proves -- beyond doubt -- that man and large land animals
indeed had been around when coal was being formed. Otherwise,
their mortal remains could not have been preserved between layers
of anthracite as the result of a catastrophe beyond our wildest
imagination.
And, since this is the grim evidence that a catastrophe happened
before, there is NO question that it could happen again.
Velikovsky provided evidence of catastrophes in his two books,
"Worlds in Collision" and "Earth in Upheaval," published back
in the early 1950s. In them, he offered undeniable evidence of
calamities beyond human comprehension but was ridiculed
and badmouthed by members of the Scientific Establishment.
Here's a copy of these two books, in paperback, and an explanation
why Velikovsky was treated with scorn and contempt, which is how
members of the Scientific Establishment have treated me for the last
21 1/2 years.
>> ====================================================
>> http://edconrad.com/ebay/Petrifiedx/MVC-010S.JPG
>> http://edconrad.com/ebay/Petrifiedx/MVC-011S.JPG
>> ====================================================
A longtime newspaperman, I figured -- when realizing I was getting
the shaft from the Scientific Establishment -- I'd get a fair shake
from newspapers in an effort to tell my story.
I thought the editors would be genuinely interested in what might've
sounded like a farfetched story, except that it was backed up by
petrified bones, teeth and soft organs as old as coal.
Reporters from the Allentown (Pa.) Call-Chronicle and Las Vegas
Sun, to mention just two, were greatly impressed. But when their
stories appeared in print, it took my breath away. The articles were
completely negative, making me look like that proverbial horse's
ass.
Naturally, there was nothing I could do about it, so I had to give up
on newspapers completely. I had long known the New York Times,
Washington Post and Philadelphia Inquirer wouldn't touch it because
they had several opportunities to do so but bowed to their vested
interests and ignored me.
Ditto for the TV network news shows like "60 Minutes."
For the longest time, it appeared the world would never know the truth
about the catastrophe that decimated both man and animal while coal
was being formed.
Then a miracle happened -- along came the Internet. It gave me a way
to reach the pubic but, of course, the public wasn't paying attention
because members of the Scientific Establishment kept making me
look like a fool and an imbecile.
And, if you recall, they had been doing a mighty fine job of it
right up until yesterday. That's when members of the Scientific
Establishment got the second biggest shock of their lives, dwarfed
only by the attack on the Twin Towers.
Suddenly overnight, with the presentation of an arsenal of physical
evidence, the ridicule and character assassination have eased
somewhat.
Suddenly, their cannons ran out of ammunition, accusations that
I'm a liar and a fraud.
Suddenly, these Clown Princes of Sciences -- long having made
a joke at the expense of sacred Science -- finally realized that
their involvement in deceit, deception, collusion and conspiracy
has caught up with them.
These Omniscient Buffoons have defended their colleagues
who, with incredible audacity, have made a mockery of physical
evidence, totally ignoring it and sometimes even tampering with it.
Thomas Alva Edison probably put in a nutshell what they were
doing for so long, and my dear friend Clayton was right on target,
too.
> http://edconrad.com/oldascoal/images/quotesnew.gif
===========================================
>========= SOME OF THE SPECIMENS =========
===========================================
The following is the very first discovery of petrified bone in
coal-bearing Carboniferous strata in June 1981.
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith1/first.jpg
The specimen, which I found by accident, resembled a giant skull
and the Smithsonian expressed an interest after receiving a photo,
inviting me to bring it down to Washington so it could be examined
firsthand.
Three of its "experts" -- an anthropologist, a paleontologist and a
geologist -- looked it over carefully but, after a few minutes,
concurred that it was nothing more than a rock or concretion,
certainly nothng that had ever lived.
No one mentioned that a microscopic study of the specimen's
cellular structure would accurately identify whether it is or is not
bone. (I had no knowledge of this fact at the time and wouldn't
be aware of it until many months later)
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/brain/textbook.gif
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Newpix3/thefactthat.gif
In any event, while preparing to leave the Smithsonian, I politely
asked if they would want to keep the specimen, perhaps to break
apart the jaw-like area to see if teeth could be found inside. The
three "experts" -- Joseph Brown and Robert McCurdy, the only
two names I remember -- laughed at me and said it would be
an absolute waste of their time.
About a month later -- rather discouraged -- I decided to search
the interior of the jaw-like area on my own. It began with a nail
to penetrate the rock hardness, then using all sorts of small tools
to reach inside and, strangely, begin pulling out what resembled
brownish dirt.
I was mysified that some sort of cavity existed and contacted
the Smithsonian about this -- but was ignored.
After several weeks of part-time labor, I found a pair of peculiar
objects inside. Photos were taken, greatly enlarged and sent to
Krogman, the bone expert.
Our friendship had begun months previous when I had driven
to Lancaster to show him the first strange secimen I had found
that had come from between coal veins -- the large skull that
the Smithsonian later dismissed as a rock.
Krogman studied the photo of the inclusion and then told me over
the phone that the object is definitely a premolar tooth because
"I can see a pair of cusps."
Here's the photo that Krogman had examined, with the dime
offering an indication of size.
>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Tool/MVC-014S.JPG
The photo below shows another view of where the premolar was
attached.
>>> http://edconrad.com/oldascoal/images/z1.jpg
Krogman suggested an infrared scan be performed and it was done
at American Medical Laboratories in Chantilly, Va. Here's the result
of the test:
>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/coalbones/graph.gif
This is what the laboratory stated in its official report:
>> http://edconrad.com/ebay/Newpix3/result.gif
It meant that the inclusion in the jaw-like area was neither rock
nor concretion but something that once lived.
When the scan was interpreted later, this fact was confirmed.
>> http://edconrad.com/oldascoal/images/compatible.gif
It also should be emphasized that microscopic study of the
skull-like object was conducted and Haversian canals -- miniscule
circles, the tell-tale sign of bone -- were visible.
It had prompted Krogman, at one point, to offer great encourgement,
as he followed the discoveries with great interest.:
>> http://www.edconrad.com/oldascoal/images/krogquote.gif
>>============================================
The following specimen was identified by Krogman as a petrified
human calvarium -- a skull with the eyesockets broken off -- after
he personally had examined it and even measured it with
caliphers, expressing pleasure with the results..
Krogman, who was personally invited by the Egyptian government
to be present when a Pharoah's tomb was opened years before, is
shown holding the calvarium in the second photo.
>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith/z11calv.jpg
>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith/krogwskull.jpg
Moments after this photo was taken of Krogman with the specimen,
an associate -- a medical doctor -- walked into his office at the
Cooper Clinic in Lancaster, Pa., and he told him to come closer
to see "the oldest human skull ever found."
Two other photos of the specimen:
>>
>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith/MVC-006S.JPG
>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith/MVC-007S.JPG
Meanwhile, a CATscan revealed a second protrusion not visible
o the naked eye but located precisely where it would be expected
to be found in a human cranium.
Here's a copy of that scan:
>> http://www.edconrad.com/images/catcalv.jpg
This specimen also tested positive for the presence of Haversian
canals under microscopic scrutiny.
Additionally, American Medical Laboratories performed testing
of calculus analysis by crystallography on the specimen and
found "a composition of dried blood intermingled with a few
small crystals resembling calcium oxalate dihydrate."
>>
The laboratory's official report follows:
>>
>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/AML/MVC-012S.JPG
>>=============================================
Another petrified human cranium was found approximately
a year later only a short distance from where the human
calvarium was discovered.
It was -- still is -- embedded in a boulder that must weigh at
least 3,000 pounds.
>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith/skulla.jpg
>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith/skullb.jpg
>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith1/other1.jpg
>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith/z2_2.jpg
The Smithsonian was sent a photograph and Raymond Rye,
musem specialist, replied in writing: "The object ... does resemble
the outline of a human skull ... We must do a microscopic study
of the outer rind to determine if it has the structure of bone."
>
>> http://edconrad.com/oldascoal/images/rr072782.gif
>
The Smithsonian had been mailed granules, as requested, then
weeks later replied: "X-ray analysis of the material reveals it to be
quartz, the most abundant material of the earth's crust. So, although
the enigmatic object exposed in the boulder may resemble a hominid
skull, its mineral compostion is definitely not that of bone."
>> http://edconrad.com/oldascoal/images/rr090982.gif
The fact is, "x-ray analysis" is NOTan appropriate test to identify
the presence or absence of cellular structure.
Later, a microcopic photo of granules removed from the specimen
revealed the presence of Haversian canals. (Actually, I knew they
did ahead of time because I had examined other granules
microscopically before sending them to the Smithsonian.)
Here's one of those microscopic photos of the cell structure:
>> http://www.edconrad.com/oldascoal/images/proof1.jpg
>==================================================
This is a petrified human femur still embedded in shale, a near-cousin
of coal. Portions of the bulb ends have broken off.
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith/z6femur.jpg
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith/z8femur.jpg
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith1/z7femur.jpg
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Spec/MVC-001S.JPG
Since a femur measures approximately one-fourth of a human
being's height, the femur belonged to someone at least 7 1/2-foot
tall.
>>=====================================================
This specimen was identified as a portion of a tibia by Krogman
and was subjected to one of the greatest cover-ups in the history
of science.
>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith/newtibia.jpg
Andrew Macrae, then of Calgary University, performed fraudulent
testing when entrusted to examine its cellular structure and publish
the microscopic photos on his web page. Instead. he posted
microscopic photos of a rock or a concretion.
Macrae undoubtedly was advised and assisted by Paul Myers, then
of Temple University in Philadelphia and now at the University of
Minnesota.
When charged with participating in the scam, Myers adamantly denied
it. Then, when I suggested officials of Temple University check their
long-distance telephone calls during the time that Macrae was
"testing" the specimen in the summer of 1996, Myers suddenly admitted
in the talk.origins news group that he had made many phone calls
to Calgary University in that time span but on other business.
>>
It didn't end there. Myers later admitted in talk.origins that he had
FLOWN to Calgary one weekend during that same time period and had
spent time on campus. He said he didn't even have a chance to say
hello to Macrae, claiming he was there on other business.
Here are two additional photos of the portion of the petrified tibia,
(known as EC96-001 for Macrae's fraudulent testing purposes).
>>
>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/fossil/z15tib2.jpg
>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/fossil/z15tib1.jpg
In addition, a scanning electronic microscope (SEM) was used
to examine the interior surface features of this specimen and then
compare it with cadaver bone at the same power magnification. These
are the photos at 2,000-times magnification:.
>>> http://edconrad.com/oldascoal/images/bones.jpg
(They would look incredibly similiar if the grains were lying in
exactly the same direction.)
The left photo in the first URL below shows what Andrew Macrae
posted on his web page, claiming it was the cell structure of
C96-001 and nothing like bone should look like (in the right photo).
The next two photos show EC96-001's true cell structure.
>>> http://www.edconrad.com/canals/ts_compare1.jpg
>>> http://edconrad.com/canals/slide1.jpg
>>> http://www.edconrad.com/canals/0505160x.jpg
>>
It was just one of several fraudulent maneuvers perpetrated
by members of the Scientifiic Establishment over the past 21 1/2
years when the first specimen -- the large petrified skull -- was
discovered.
Additionally, American Medical Laboratories performed calculus
analysis by crystallography on EC96-001 and determined that it
"consisted predominately of dried blood and protein."
That report follows:
>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/AML/MVC-006S.JPG
>>==============================================
Here's an assorment of miscellaneous specimens, primarily portions
of petrified mandibles (jaw bones), found between the same coal veins:
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Bones/MVC-006S.JPG
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Bones/MVC-010S.JPG
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Bones/MVC-003S.JPG
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Bones/MVC-004S.JPG
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Bones/MVC-005S.JPG
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Bones/MVC-007S.JPG
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Bones/MVC-008S.JPG
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Bones/MVC-009S.JPG
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Bones/MVC-011S.JPG
==============================================
Here's a petrified human lung found between coal veins.
>>
>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Tool/MVC-015S.JPG
>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Tool/MVC-016S.JPG
>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Tool/MVC-017S.JPG
>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Tool/MVC-018S.JPG
>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Tool/MVC-019S.JPG
A lung is a soft organ and, as such, many cnotend it can never
petrify. However, in recent years it was established conclusively
that soft organs can indeed be subjected to the petrification process.
>>============================================
Here's a petrified gall bladder, and a CATscan revealed the presence
of a gall stone inside.
>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith/z5gall.jpg
This is one of the specimens that also was tested at American
Medical Laboratories via calculus analysis by crystallography.
It revealed the specimen "consists of a few small pieces of dried
blood," adding that "none of the constituents normally found
in urinary calculi are present." (which comes as no surprise since
the specimen it tested is petrified).
That report follows:
>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/AML/MVC-010S.JPG
>==============================================
This is a petrified human brain (one hemisphere):
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/brain/MVC-001S.JPG
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/brain/MVC-002S.JPG
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/brain/MVC-003S.JPG
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/brain/MVC-004S.JPG
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/brain/MVC-005S.JPG
>============================================
Here's another petrified bone (a knee?):
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/brain/MVC-012S.JPG
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/brain/MVC-013S.JPG
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/brain/MVC-014S.JPG
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/brain/MVC-015S.JPG
>=============================================
Here are a pair of petrified fetuses.The large one, which has
been transformed to a coal-like substance, measures 6 1/2
inches in length.
>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Tool/MVC-010S.JPG
>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Tool/MVC-011S.JPG
>===============================================
Here's a portion of a dinosaur foot embedded in slate (or shale):
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Newpix3/z3dino.jpg
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Tool/MVC-013S.JPG
It should be noted that a third "toe" was later found embedded
in the slate where it would be expected to be. A video tape exists
showing the top cover of slate patiently being removed, revealing
the third "toe" just beneath the surface.
I should mention that the petrified femur and petrifed dinosaur
foot remain as you see them -- still embedded in slate (or shale)
-- the way they were steamshoveled from between coal veins.
They are somewhere in this photo, taken from approximately five
miles up, of scar-marked land that was strip-mined of its coal. But
those remarkable discoveries are still there if you'd like to search.
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/coalbones/MVC-015S.JPG
>=============================================
Here's a petrified handcrafted wooden handle which has been
transformed to anthracite. It also was found between the same
two coal veins.
>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Tool/MVC-001S.JPG
>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Tool/MVC-002S.JPG
>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Tool/MVC-004S.JPG
>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Tool/MVC-003S.JPG
>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Tool/MVC-005S.JPG
>>============================================
Here's a portion of petrified bone still embedded in slate,
confirming that it's older than the material in which it was encased.
Obviously, that material had to be fluid or in a fluidy state for
something to harden around it.
>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith1/MVC-014S.JPG
>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith1/MVC-015S.JPG
>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith1/MVC-016S.JPG
>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith1/MVC-017S.JPG
>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith1/MVC-018S.JPG
>>============================================
Here's a giant canine tooth, found between the same coal veins:
>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Petrified/1tooth.jpg
>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Vel1/MVC-009S.JPG
>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Vel1/MVC-007S.JPG
>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Vel1/MVC-008S.JPG
>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Vel1/MVC-006S.JPG
>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Vel1/MVC-010S.JPG
(I accidentally dropped the giant tooth on the sidewalk in Hazleton,
Pa. -- too heavy for the paper bag --and the tip broke off but the
two pieces fit together almost perfectly.)
>>==================================================
Here's another petrified fetus, this one still embedded in slate (or
shale).
>>http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Day/MVC-005S.JPG
>>http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Day/MVC-002S.JPG
>>http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Day/MVC-004S.JPG
>================================================
The following is a portion of a giant prehistoric scorpion that was
identified as such by Wilton Krogman.
When the world famous bone expert examined this specimen
found between coal veins, he first urned to me and mentioned
that he had performed countless disections of scorpions in college.
"What you have, Mr. Conrad (never Ed), is a portion of a giant
prehistoric scorpion," he told me.
When discovered, the specimen was broken in two parts but they
fit together perfectly.
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Scorpion/MVC-001S.JPG
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Scorpion/MVC-022S.JPG
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Scorpion/MVC-020S.JPG
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Scorpion/MVC-008S.JPG
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Scorpion/MVC-017S.JPG
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/fossilxx/MVC-006S.JPG
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Scorpion/MVC-021S.JPG
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Scorpion/MVC-009S.JPG
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Scorpion/MVC-019S.JPG
This particular specimen was the subject of another cover-up
by members of the Scientific Establishment -- the Department of
Entomology at Penn State University.
Penn State actually has batted 0-for-3 with its attempted
cover-ups of my specimens: First, its Department of Paleontology
(Roger Cuffey); Second, its Department of Anthropology (Robert
Eckardt). Third, its Department of Entomology (Charles Pitts).
>>===========================================
One of the specimens found between anthracite veins was positively
identified as petrified bone by the Yerkes Regional Primate Research
Center at Emory University in Atlanta, Ga., which Krogman described
as "the most prestigious institution of its kind in the world."
Jeremy Dahl, one of its bone experts who examined and tested it,
even put it in writing and signed his name, also making a drawing
of the specimen that he had examined and tested..
>>
>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith/YERKES1.TIF
>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith/YERKES2.TIF
>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith/YERKES3.TIF
Dahl definitely had examined the specimen's cell structure because
he had cut off a slice while it was is possession.
>=================================================
Here's another petrified hominid jaw, the frontal portion. Inclusions
are embedded in it, possibly teeth or even part of the tongue.
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Newpix5/MVC-002S.JPG
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Newpix5/MVC-001S.JPG
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Newpix5/MVC-003S.JPG
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Newpix5/MVC-004S.JPG
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Newpix5/MVC-005S.JPG
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Newpix5/MVC-006S.JPG
>>================================================
This is a piece of petrified wood that had been transformed into
coal-like material. It was handcarved, probably to make a tool
or a weapon.
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Petrified/MVC-001S.JPG
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Petrified/MVC-002S.JPG
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Petrified/MVC-003S.JPG
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Petrified/MVC-004S.JPG
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Petrified/MVC-005S.JPG
Here's another soft organ that had petrified:
>>
>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/fossilx/MVC-008S.JPG
>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/fossilx/MVC-011S.JPG
>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/fossilx/MVC-010S.JPG
>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/fossilx/MVC-009S.JPG
>>=============================================
Here are what appear to be petrified eggs. About eight of them
were found together more than 200 feet below the original
surface of the ground (on the side wall of a stripping pit).
>>
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/AML/MVC-021F.JPG
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/AML/MVC-022F.JPG
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/AML/MVC-023F.JPG
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/AML/MVC-024F.JPG
Here's where they were found: (that's a bulldozer):
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/quote/MVC-015S.JPG
>>==========================================
Here are other specimens of petrified bone embedded in slate.
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith1/MVC-014S.JPG
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith1/MVC-015S.JPG
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith1/MVC-018S.JPG
>===========================================
Here are two strange specimens, almost similiar. What makes them
so intriguing is that they were found between anthracite veins some
40 miles apart -- one near Shenandoah and the other near Wilkes-Barre.
>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/fossilx/MVC-016S.JPG
>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/fossilx/MVC-017S.JPG
>>===============================================
Here are three intriguing specimens:
(For the kids' sake, let's call 'em the three tenors.)
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Vel1/MVC-004S.JPG
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Vel1/MVC-005S.JPG
>>===============================================
The late, great Raymond Dart, MD., relished the opportunity to examine
some of the specimens after Krogman had informed him about them.
This photo shows Dart holding what Krogman identified as a calvarium,
a human cranium with the eye sockets broken off.
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/fossilx/dart.jpg
Here's Raymond Dart's letter:
> ===============================================
>>>
>>> 28 October, 1983
>>>
>>> Dear Mr. Conrad:
>>>
>>> This is being written as a follow-up to our meeting here in
>>> Philadelphia on Saturday, Oct. 15, during which I had the
>>> opportunity to examine many of the rock-like objects you
>>> had discovered in the coal fields of Pennsylvania, near
>>> Shenandoah.
>>>
>>> In my opinion, the vast majority bear the contour of bone
>>> and may well be petrified bone.
>>>
>>> I was particularly intrigued by one of your specimens which
>>> I agree bears a distinct resemblance to a dainosaur head
>>> or a homind skullcap, heavily petrified.
>>>
>>> Based on our vast ignorance about vulconology, as regards
>>> both anatomy and anthropology, I am of the opinion that your
>>> findings definitely warrant intense investigation by that subject's
>>> foremost experts, especially here in America where so many
>>> volcanic disturbances occur even today.
>>>
>>> Yours sincerely,
>>> Raymond A. Dart (signed)
>>>
>>> Raymond A. Dart, M.D.
>>> Institute of Man
>>> The Institutes for the Achievement of Human Potential
>>> 8801 Stenton Avenue
>>> Philadelphia, Pa. 19118
Here's a photo of Raymond Dart with Ed Conrad (the photo was
taken by a house painter who obliged by decending a ladder
to do so.)
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/coalbones/wdart.jpg
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Vel1/MVC-002S.JPG
> ===============================================
That man co-existed with dinosaurs -- back while anthracite was
being formed -- gains credence with these photos of a petrified
dinosaur foot embedded in slate.
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith/z3dino.jpg
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/fossilxx/Dfoot.jpg
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/fossil/MVC-039S.JPG
>>===========================================
Another petrified fetus, still embedded in slate:
>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/fossilxx/MVC-001S.JPG
>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/fossilxx/MVC-002S.JPG
>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/fossilxx/MVC-003S.JPG
>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/fossilxx/MVC-004S.JPG
>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/fossilxx/MVC-005S.JPG
>===============================================
Another specimen embedded in slate:
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/coalbones/inslate1.jpg
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/coalbones/inslate5.jpg
The original Easter bunny? Then, again, it might be the head
of a petrified jackass. And, IF it is, it would be rather appropriate.
The Scientific Establishment -- led by its worldwide brood of
arrogant, defiant tenured fossils -- has long been treating
John Q. Public, and his kids, like a jackass, promoting fairy tales
and molesting truth.
Over the past 22 years, it has engaged in deceit, deception, collusion
and conspiracy -- of MONUMENTAL proportions -- and one of the
ringleaders has been the Smithsonian Institution.
>================================================
>================================================
And here's my final thought (three pictures should be worth
2,000 words):
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Vel1/MVC-001S.JPG
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Vel1/MVC-002S.JPG
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Vel1/MVC-003S.JPG
No question, members of the scientific establishment academia
-- professors, students and alumni -- have long been fearful
of me and my discoveries because of the dire consequences
they realized what truth would bring.
And well they should have been because now that time has
come. They're finally being put in their place and recognized
for the total disgrace to science that they have been.
NOW they're not just *afraid* of Ed Conrad. They're terrified.
Ed Conrad
> http://www.edconrad.com
Man as Old as Coal
and
Proof of Life After Death
P.S.:
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/quote/MVC-014S.JPG
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/quote/MVC-008S.JPG
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/quote/MVC-013S.JPG
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/quote/MVC-011S.JPG
>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/quote/MVC-012S.JPG
>> http://edconrad.com/ebay/coalbones/zedjaw.jpg
>> Adam and Eve were said to have many sons and daughters.
>How did Adam and Eve get to have grandchildren? Did their sons and
>daughters have sex with each other? They must have, there was no
one else
>to have sex with.
As I mentioned in a more detailed post, with each other. If you think
that's strange, then how about Adam marrying his own RIB :-)
>>In both cases, it's 1/3 of the angels that were kicked out of
>>heaven with satan, when he rebelled.
>Is this in the Bible? Would you mind providing chapter and verse?
"How you are fallen from the heavens, O shining star, son of the
morning! How you are cut down to the ground, you who weakened the
nations! For you have said in your heart, I will go up to the heavens,
I will exalt my throne above the stars of God; I will also sit on the
mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north. I will go up
above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the Most High. Yet you
shall be brought down to hell, to the sides of the Pit. Those who see
you shall stare and closely watch you, saying, Is this the man who
made the earth to tremble; who shook kingdoms;"
(Isaiah 14:12-16)
Satan was and still is a spoiled brat.
"You were the anointed cherub that covers, and I had put you in the
holy height of God where you were; you have walked up and down in the
midst of the stones of fire. You were perfect in your ways from the
day that you were created, until iniquity was found in you. By the
multitude of your goods they have filled your midst with violence, and
you have sinned. So I cast you profaned from the height of God, and I
destroy you, O covering cherub, from among the stones of fire. Your
heart was lifted up because of your beauty; you have spoiled your
wisdom because of your brightness. I will cast you to the ground; I
will put you before kings, that they may behold you. By the host of
your iniquities, by the iniquity of your trade, you have profaned your
holy places; so I brought a fire from your midst; it shall devour you,
and I will give you for ashes on the earth, before the eyes of all who
see you. All who know you among the peoples shall be astonished at
you; you shall be terrors, and you will not be forever."
(Eze 28:14-19)
He had it all.
"And He said to them, I saw Satan fall from Heaven like lightning."
(Luk 10:18)
He got put out of his butt swiftly.. way to go God!
"And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and cast
them onto the earth. And the dragon stood before the woman being about
to bear, so that when she bears he might devour her child." (Rev 12:4)
Satan clearly poisioned more than just his own deluded mind up there.
"And there was war in Heaven. Michael and his angels warring against
the dragon. And the dragon and his angels warred, but did not prevail.
Nor was place found for them in Heaven any more. And the great dragon
was cast out, the old serpent called Devil, and Satan, who deceives
the whole world. He was cast out into the earth, and his angels were
cast out with him."
(Rev 12:7-9)
I hope this is enough proof for you.
Some people believe this is to be a future event.. it's really hard to
tell in the prophetic books like Revelation.. but its clear that
already we know that Satan and 1/3rd of the heavenly host were and are
still rebellious, given that we already have it in writing.
i know i was pointing out that we didn't even know how to do dna back
then... so how could we know how to do carbon dating right back then/
"Ramboyd" <Ramboyd@no-spam> wrote in message
news:3F0AFEAA.B1D32A28@no-spam
> thevoice@no-spam wrote:
>
> > look at the dates he gave for his explanation. before dna was
introduced.
> > give us examples like that from 1990 and and on.
> >
>
> DNA would only establish species and family ties. Carbon dating does not
rely
> on DNA once so ever.
>
> Ramboyd
>
I am the voice of YOUR faith ( science ) you are the reprobate that your
mother shoulda swallowed. Ignorant idiot. Add something to the
conversation *intelligence* other than being a fucking dummy!
The fish egg that shoulda been laid to rest on a sandy beach and dried of
all of existence. Despicable little puke.
<thevoice@no-spam> wrote in message
news:vYzOa.5855$ru2.481772@no-spam
> I am the voice of god, BOW DOWN TO ME AND SUCK MY COCK!
> "Go USA! Go Israel!" <makemewell75@no-spam> wrote in message
> news:10077089.0307080535.72ce7130@no-spam
> > >You obviously either have me confused with someone else, or you never
> > >read my reply to you a couple of weeks ago that dealt with the big
> > bang
> > >(You didn't reply to it, which suggested you are afraid of my own
> > >interpretation of God's actions in the multiverse)
> >
> > You interpretation suggests that God created life gradually over long
> > periods of time involving mutations and much death. That's not
> > suggested at all in Genesis. Why not take God at His Word and not the
> > ever-changing theories of the day.
> >
> > >Just to recap: The Big Bang is already pretty much proven.
> >
> > Wow, I'm convinced. Thanks. "pretty much proven" translates
> > "I have faith that its true".
> >
> > >Do you even understand how carbon dating works?
> >
> > Enough to know that there are certainly gross errors (when dating live
> > organisms, etc) without an explanation that are ignored, so not to tip
> > that
> > apple cart. I'm not convinced it is reliable beyond a couple thousand
> > years. You also assume conditions on earth were always the same.
> >
> > I'm not here to debate this point to death, but only state the
> > obvious:
> > a theory is as much a "religion" or "faith" as Christianity.
> >
> > >As it stands, if the Earth were only 6,000 years old, then that would
> > >suggest the Sun is a lot less than the ~ 4 billion years of age it is
> > now
> > >- if our Sun were only 6000 years old, we'd all be in a _HEAP_ of
> > trouble
> > >(not to mention never having existed)
> >
> > What I don't understand is if you believe in God, why is it so hard to
> > believe, he couldn't make the sun the way it is as we see it now?
> >
> > >Did you happen to miss out on the story of the Human Genome Mapping ?
> > >Here human beings were originally assumed to have millions and
> > millions
> > >of important genes making us tick - turns out there are really only
> > >30,000 of them that actually make us function and dictate our design.
> > The
> > >proof of evolution is the fact that there are thousands of bits of
> > DNA
> > >that are not originally human - they are viral and bacterial in
> > originan,
> > >which shows that we have, indeed, evolved over time. If we were
> > simply
> > >magically created, as your simplistic version of God is supposed to
> > have
> > >done, this DNA would have never had a chance to become a part of the
> > >human genome.
> >
> > Why is there no proof of macro-evolution.. surely something would have
> > turned up by now?
> >
> >
> > >God's a lot smarter than you give Him credit for - He certainly
> > wouldn't
> > >have wasted his time in creating a ready-made Earth, along with it's
> > >population and history - both organic and non-.
> >
> > Putting words in God's mouth is disrespecting him.
> >
> > >>Bottom line is, evolution gives folks no reason to believe in God,
> > >>which gives them no reason to accept moral absolutes, which explains
> > >>why each generation is growing worse and worse in behavior.
> > >Oh, come on, now - you're showing here that you are a superficial
> > >Christian - and a hypocritical one at that. Evolution, if _ANYTHING_
> > >gives even _more_ reason to believe in a creator.
> >
> > I'm happy that you believe in God, albiet in a way not even suggested
> > by
> > His Own Words, but not everyone shares your viewpoint.
> >
> > >Heck, go out into your yard and start pulling up some dandylions.
> > Take a
> > >good, long look at their design and their growth behaviour. Take a
> > look
> > >at what dandylions do right after you mow your lawn. Think a plant
> > that
> > >is as amazing as a dandylion (although equally annoying and
> > parasitic,
> > >but no less amazing) is a product of pure, random chance ? Or,
> > perhaps,
> > >you believe that God, the almighty and most powerful beings, has
> > nothing
> > >better to do with His universe, other than to sit around watching
> > this
> > >one planet out of trillions, creating new plant species out of
> > boredom.
> >
> > You assume much about God who's explained and demonstrated much about
> > who, what, where, when and why he is. Why not stick to his word and
> > have
> > faith that he created the world in 7 days. Jesus quoted him later in
> > the
> > New Testament and suggested nothing beyond what God The Father
> > originally
> > stated.
> >
> > >>If everyone was a Christian who feared the Lord and knew what the
> > Lord
> > >>expected of them.. do you think the world would be a better place..
> > or
> > >>worse? I think the answer is fairly obvious.
> > >Anyone who 'fears' God is an idiot and does not understand what God's
> > >role in our lives truly is.
> >
> > I think you need to read your bible again. To fear God is to respect
> > God
> > which plays a part in the first and most important commandment: To
> > love the Lord with all your heart.
> >
> > >Then again, you've already stated that you believe in Hell and Satan
> > -
> >
> > And..
> >
> > >you're the perfect little Christian,
> >
> > Apparently you've missed the many occasions I've stated that
> > Christians are not perfect, only forgiven.
> >
> > >at least insofar as the Church is concerned: You've lapped up the
> > dogma and
> > >are easily controlled.
> >
> > Please don't confuse Christianity with Catholism... you're starting to
> > come across as ignorant.
> >
> > >It's a sad, sad thing that God has given you not only a brain, but
> > the freedom
> > >to use it to think for yourself and you so obviously choose not to
> > use
> > >His gift to it's fullest.
> >
> > If you knew the bible at all you'd also know that mans own Wisdom is
> > foolish.
> >
> > It sounds to me like you've got a very subjective wishy washy version
> > of God. If you can believe in a God, you should also be able to
> > believe He is Perfect, and if you can belive He is Perfect, you should
> > have absolutely no trouble believing that He would leave us with a
> > sure-fire way of KNOWING him personally.
> >
> > That sure-fire way is Christianity.
> >
> > I've already posted a thread showing how Israels rebirth of a nation
> > can be calculated down to the Month and Year. Rather than scoff at
> > it, why not do the homework yourself. Open your heart, put aside your
> > pride and really give it a shot.
> >
> > If you are sincere, you will find an answer beyond any shadow of a
> > doubt, and a faith that won't change.. like say the age of the
> > universe, which just seems to be getting bigger and bigger.
> >
> > Wishy washy theories passing it self off as science, don't cut it, and
> > frankly puts me off to sleep. Wake me up when they find a clear and
> > concise observable, and reproduceable evidence: that my friend is true
> > science.
> >
> > Until then, I'm happy with my faith.. as are you with own faith.
>
>
Classic case of back pedaling fool!
<thevoice@no-spam> wrote in message
news:J9EOa.6330$ru2.509734@no-spam
> i know i was pointing out that we didn't even know how to do dna back
> then... so how could we know how to do carbon dating right back then/
>
> "Ramboyd" <Ramboyd@no-spam> wrote in message
> news:3F0AFEAA.B1D32A28@no-spam
> > thevoice@no-spam wrote:
> >
> > > look at the dates he gave for his explanation. before dna was
> introduced.
> > > give us examples like that from 1990 and and on.
> > >
> >
> > DNA would only establish species and family ties. Carbon dating does
not
> rely
> > on DNA once so ever.
> >
> > Ramboyd
> >
>
>
"Stephen Bigelow" <sbigelowXLS@no-spam> wrote in
news:ihEOa.83908$a51.79477@no-spam
> "Marc Bissonnette" <dragnet@no-spam> wrote in message
> news:Xns93B2742CD76B5dragnetinternalysisc@no-spam
>> Because the bible is not His word: It is a work of fiction created by
>> man to impose fear and control over others by suggesting that God is
>> some form of hateful creature that will cast your soul to hell at the
>> slightest transgression (exagguration, paraphrase)
>
> Suddenly, I feel all goose-pimpley....RB, is that _you_?
>
>:)
>
>
Oh, <irony> God, </irony> no :)
--
Marc Bissonnette
Perl CGI. MySQL Databases. Dynamic Web Content Control.
http://www.internalysis.com
Looking for a new ISP? http://www.canadianisp.com
get a clue buddy i was trying to be funny obviously you didn't get a sense
of humor .
why bother adding shit to the converstation every time you add something it
gets discounted by the god fearing friend of the israelies
"SamIam" <thisis@no-spam> wrote in message
news:FnEOa.10004$Tx.439453@no-spam
> I am the voice of YOUR faith ( science ) you are the reprobate that your
> mother shoulda swallowed. Ignorant idiot. Add something to the
> conversation *intelligence* other than being a fucking dummy!
>
> The fish egg that shoulda been laid to rest on a sandy beach and dried of
> all of existence. Despicable little puke.
>
>
>
> <thevoice@no-spam> wrote in message
> news:vYzOa.5855$ru2.481772@no-spam
> > I am the voice of god, BOW DOWN TO ME AND SUCK MY COCK!
> > "Go USA! Go Israel!" <makemewell75@no-spam> wrote in message
> > news:10077089.0307080535.72ce7130@no-spam
> > > >You obviously either have me confused with someone else, or you never
> > > >read my reply to you a couple of weeks ago that dealt with the big
> > > bang
> > > >(You didn't reply to it, which suggested you are afraid of my own
> > > >interpretation of God's actions in the multiverse)
> > >
> > > You interpretation suggests that God created life gradually over long
> > > periods of time involving mutations and much death. That's not
> > > suggested at all in Genesis. Why not take God at His Word and not the
> > > ever-changing theories of the day.
> > >
> > > >Just to recap: The Big Bang is already pretty much proven.
> > >
> > > Wow, I'm convinced. Thanks. "pretty much proven" translates
> > > "I have faith that its true".
> > >
> > > >Do you even understand how carbon dating works?
> > >
> > > Enough to know that there are certainly gross errors (when dating live
> > > organisms, etc) without an explanation that are ignored, so not to tip
> > > that
> > > apple cart. I'm not convinced it is reliable beyond a couple thousand
> > > years. You also assume conditions on earth were always the same.
> > >
> > > I'm not here to debate this point to death, but only state the
> > > obvious:
> > > a theory is as much a "religion" or "faith" as Christianity.
> > >
> > > >As it stands, if the Earth were only 6,000 years old, then that would
> > > >suggest the Sun is a lot less than the ~ 4 billion years of age it is
> > > now
> > > >- if our Sun were only 6000 years old, we'd all be in a _HEAP_ of
> > > trouble
> > > >(not to mention never having existed)
> > >
> > > What I don't understand is if you believe in God, why is it so hard to
> > > believe, he couldn't make the sun the way it is as we see it now?
> > >
> > > >Did you happen to miss out on the story of the Human Genome Mapping ?
> > > >Here human beings were originally assumed to have millions and
> > > millions
> > > >of important genes making us tick - turns out there are really only
> > > >30,000 of them that actually make us function and dictate our design.
> > > The
> > > >proof of evolution is the fact that there are thousands of bits of
> > > DNA
> > > >that are not originally human - they are viral and bacterial in
> > > originan,
> > > >which shows that we have, indeed, evolved over time. If we were
> > > simply
> > > >magically created, as your simplistic version of God is supposed to
> > > have
> > > >done, this DNA would have never had a chance to become a part of the
> > > >human genome.
> > >
> > > Why is there no proof of macro-evolution.. surely something would have
> > > turned up by now?
> > >
> > >
> > > >God's a lot smarter than you give Him credit for - He certainly
> > > wouldn't
> > > >have wasted his time in creating a ready-made Earth, along with it's
> > > >population and history - both organic and non-.
> > >
> > > Putting words in God's mouth is disrespecting him.
> > >
> > > >>Bottom line is, evolution gives folks no reason to believe in God,
> > > >>which gives them no reason to accept moral absolutes, which explains
> > > >>why each generation is growing worse and worse in behavior.
> > > >Oh, come on, now - you're showing here that you are a superficial
> > > >Christian - and a hypocritical one at that. Evolution, if _ANYTHING_
> > > >gives even _more_ reason to believe in a creator.
> > >
> > > I'm happy that you believe in God, albiet in a way not even suggested
> > > by
> > > His Own Words, but not everyone shares your viewpoint.
> > >
> > > >Heck, go out into your yard and start pulling up some dandylions.
> > > Take a
> > > >good, long look at their design and their growth behaviour. Take a
> > > look
> > > >at what dandylions do right after you mow your lawn. Think a plant
> > > that
> > > >is as amazing as a dandylion (although equally annoying and
> > > parasitic,
> > > >but no less amazing) is a product of pure, random chance ? Or,
> > > perhaps,
> > > >you believe that God, the almighty and most powerful beings, has
> > > nothing
> > > >better to do with His universe, other than to sit around watching
> > > this
> > > >one planet out of trillions, creating new plant species out of
> > > boredom.
> > >
> > > You assume much about God who's explained and demonstrated much about
> > > who, what, where, when and why he is. Why not stick to his word and
> > > have
> > > faith that he created the world in 7 days. Jesus quoted him later in
> > > the
> > > New Testament and suggested nothing beyond what God The Father
> > > originally
> > > stated.
> > >
> > > >>If everyone was a Christian who feared the Lord and knew what the
> > > Lord
> > > >>expected of them.. do you think the world would be a better place..
> > > or
> > > >>worse? I think the answer is fairly obvious.
> > > >Anyone who 'fears' God is an idiot and does not understand what God's
> > > >role in our lives truly is.
> > >
> > > I think you need to read your bible again. To fear God is to respect
> > > God
> > > which plays a part in the first and most important commandment: To
> > > love the Lord with all your heart.
> > >
> > > >Then again, you've already stated that you believe in Hell and Satan
> > > -
> > >
> > > And..
> > >
> > > >you're the perfect little Christian,
> > >
> > > Apparently you've missed the many occasions I've stated that
> > > Christians are not perfect, only forgiven.
> > >
> > > >at least insofar as the Church is concerned: You've lapped up the
> > > dogma and
> > > >are easily controlled.
> > >
> > > Please don't confuse Christianity with Catholism... you're starting to
> > > come across as ignorant.
> > >
> > > >It's a sad, sad thing that God has given you not only a brain, but
> > > the freedom
> > > >to use it to think for yourself and you so obviously choose not to
> > > use
> > > >His gift to it's fullest.
> > >
> > > If you knew the bible at all you'd also know that mans own Wisdom is
> > > foolish.
> > >
> > > It sounds to me like you've got a very subjective wishy washy version
> > > of God. If you can believe in a God, you should also be able to
> > > believe He is Perfect, and if you can belive He is Perfect, you should
> > > have absolutely no trouble believing that He would leave us with a
> > > sure-fire way of KNOWING him personally.
> > >
> > > That sure-fire way is Christianity.
> > >
> > > I've already posted a thread showing how Israels rebirth of a nation
> > > can be calculated down to the Month and Year. Rather than scoff at
> > > it, why not do the homework yourself. Open your heart, put aside your
> > > pride and really give it a shot.
> > >
> > > If you are sincere, you will find an answer beyond any shadow of a
> > > doubt, and a faith that won't change.. like say the age of the
> > > universe, which just seems to be getting bigger and bigger.
> > >
> > > Wishy washy theories passing it self off as science, don't cut it, and
> > > frankly puts me off to sleep. Wake me up when they find a clear and
> > > concise observable, and reproduceable evidence: that my friend is true
> > > science.
> > >
> > > Until then, I'm happy with my faith.. as are you with own faith.
> >
> >
>
>
i think john is gay.....he sure seems to want a "man"
don't mind him......
"SamIam" <thisis@no-spam> wrote in message
news:FnEOa.10004$Tx.439453@no-spam
> I am the voice of YOUR faith ( science ) you are the reprobate that your
> mother shoulda swallowed. Ignorant idiot. Add something to the
> conversation *intelligence* other than being a fucking dummy!
>
> The fish egg that shoulda been laid to rest on a sandy beach and dried of
> all of existence. Despicable little puke.
>
>
>
> <thevoice@no-spam> wrote in message
> news:vYzOa.5855$ru2.481772@no-spam
> > I am the voice of god, BOW DOWN TO ME AND SUCK MY COCK!
> > "Go USA! Go Israel!" <makemewell75@no-spam> wrote in message
> > news:10077089.0307080535.72ce7130@no-spam
> > > >You obviously either have me confused with someone else, or you never
> > > >read my reply to you a couple of weeks ago that dealt with the big
> > > bang
> > > >(You didn't reply to it, which suggested you are afraid of my own
> > > >interpretation of God's actions in the multiverse)
> > >
> > > You interpretation suggests that God created life gradually over long
> > > periods of time involving mutations and much death. That's not
> > > suggested at all in Genesis. Why not take God at His Word and not the
> > > ever-changing theories of the day.
> > >
> > > >Just to recap: The Big Bang is already pretty much proven.
> > >
> > > Wow, I'm convinced. Thanks. "pretty much proven" translates
> > > "I have faith that its true".
> > >
> > > >Do you even understand how carbon dating works?
> > >
> > > Enough to know that there are certainly gross errors (when dating live
> > > organisms, etc) without an explanation that are ignored, so not to tip
> > > that
> > > apple cart. I'm not convinced it is reliable beyond a couple thousand
> > > years. You also assume conditions on earth were always the same.
> > >
> > > I'm not here to debate this point to death, but only state the
> > > obvious:
> > > a theory is as much a "religion" or "faith" as Christianity.
> > >
> > > >As it stands, if the Earth were only 6,000 years old, then that would
> > > >suggest the Sun is a lot less than the ~ 4 billion years of age it is
> > > now
> > > >- if our Sun were only 6000 years old, we'd all be in a _HEAP_ of
> > > trouble
> > > >(not to mention never having existed)
> > >
> > > What I don't understand is if you believe in God, why is it so hard to
> > > believe, he couldn't make the sun the way it is as we see it now?
> > >
> > > >Did you happen to miss out on the story of the Human Genome Mapping ?
> > > >Here human beings were originally assumed to have millions and
> > > millions
> > > >of important genes making us tick - turns out there are really only
> > > >30,000 of them that actually make us function and dictate our design.
> > > The
> > > >proof of evolution is the fact that there are thousands of bits of
> > > DNA
> > > >that are not originally human - they are viral and bacterial in
> > > originan,
> > > >which shows that we have, indeed, evolved over time. If we were
> > > simply
> > > >magically created, as your simplistic version of God is supposed to
> > > have
> > > >done, this DNA would have never had a chance to become a part of the
> > > >human genome.
> > >
> > > Why is there no proof of macro-evolution.. surely something would have
> > > turned up by now?
> > >
> > >
> > > >God's a lot smarter than you give Him credit for - He certainly
> > > wouldn't
> > > >have wasted his time in creating a ready-made Earth, along with it's
> > > >population and history - both organic and non-.
> > >
> > > Putting words in God's mouth is disrespecting him.
> > >
> > > >>Bottom line is, evolution gives folks no reason to believe in God,
> > > >>which gives them no reason to accept moral absolutes, which explains
> > > >>why each generation is growing worse and worse in behavior.
> > > >Oh, come on, now - you're showing here that you are a superficial
> > > >Christian - and a hypocritical one at that. Evolution, if _ANYTHING_
> > > >gives even _more_ reason to believe in a creator.
> > >
> > > I'm happy that you believe in God, albiet in a way not even suggested
> > > by
> > > His Own Words, but not everyone shares your viewpoint.
> > >
> > > >Heck, go out into your yard and start pulling up some dandylions.
> > > Take a
> > > >good, long look at their design and their growth behaviour. Take a
> > > look
> > > >at what dandylions do right after you mow your lawn. Think a plant
> > > that
> > > >is as amazing as a dandylion (although equally annoying and
> > > parasitic,
> > > >but no less amazing) is a product of pure, random chance ? Or,
> > > perhaps,
> > > >you believe that God, the almighty and most powerful beings, has
> > > nothing
> > > >better to do with His universe, other than to sit around watching
> > > this
> > > >one planet out of trillions, creating new plant species out of
> > > boredom.
> > >
> > > You assume much about God who's explained and demonstrated much about
> > > who, what, where, when and why he is. Why not stick to his word and
> > > have
> > > faith that he created the world in 7 days. Jesus quoted him later in
> > > the
> > > New Testament and suggested nothing beyond what God The Father
> > > originally
> > > stated.
> > >
> > > >>If everyone was a Christian who feared the Lord and knew what the
> > > Lord
> > > >>expected of them.. do you think the world would be a better place..
> > > or
> > > >>worse? I think the answer is fairly obvious.
> > > >Anyone who 'fears' God is an idiot and does not understand what God's
> > > >role in our lives truly is.
> > >
> > > I think you need to read your bible again. To fear God is to respect
> > > God
> > > which plays a part in the first and most important commandment: To
> > > love the Lord with all your heart.
> > >
> > > >Then again, you've already stated that you believe in Hell and Satan
> > > -
> > >
> > > And..
> > >
> > > >you're the perfect little Christian,
> > >
> > > Apparently you've missed the many occasions I've stated that
> > > Christians are not perfect, only forgiven.
> > >
> > > >at least insofar as the Church is concerned: You've lapped up the
> > > dogma and
> > > >are easily controlled.
> > >
> > > Please don't confuse Christianity with Catholism... you're starting to
> > > come across as ignorant.
> > >
> > > >It's a sad, sad thing that God has given you not only a brain, but
> > > the freedom
> > > >to use it to think for yourself and you so obviously choose not to
> > > use
> > > >His gift to it's fullest.
> > >
> > > If you knew the bible at all you'd also know that mans own Wisdom is
> > > foolish.
> > >
> > > It sounds to me like you've got a very subjective wishy washy version
> > > of God. If you can believe in a God, you should also be able to
> > > believe He is Perfect, and if you can belive He is Perfect, you should
> > > have absolutely no trouble believing that He would leave us with a
> > > sure-fire way of KNOWING him personally.
> > >
> > > That sure-fire way is Christianity.
> > >
> > > I've already posted a thread showing how Israels rebirth of a nation
> > > can be calculated down to the Month and Year. Rather than scoff at
> > > it, why not do the homework yourself. Open your heart, put aside your
> > > pride and really give it a shot.
> > >
> > > If you are sincere, you will find an answer beyond any shadow of a
> > > doubt, and a faith that won't change.. like say the age of the
> > > universe, which just seems to be getting bigger and bigger.
> > >
> > > Wishy washy theories passing it self off as science, don't cut it, and
> > > frankly puts me off to sleep. Wake me up when they find a clear and
> > > concise observable, and reproduceable evidence: that my friend is true
> > > science.
> > >
> > > Until then, I'm happy with my faith.. as are you with own faith.
> >
> >
>
>
I think the snipped portion of your reply explains much about why you
apparently don't embrance Christianity, and suggests a lifestyle you
choose over eternal life.
> I am the voice of god, *snip*
> "Go USA! Go Israel!" <makemewell75@no-spam> wrote in message
> news:10077089.0307080535.72ce7130@no-spam
> > >You obviously either have me confused with someone else, or you never
> > >read my reply to you a couple of weeks ago that dealt with the big
> bang
> > >(You didn't reply to it, which suggested you are afraid of my own
> > >interpretation of God's actions in the multiverse)
> >
> > You interpretation suggests that God created life gradually over long
> > periods of time involving mutations and much death. That's not
> > suggested at all in Genesis. Why not take God at His Word and not the
> > ever-changing theories of the day.
> >
> > >Just to recap: The Big Bang is already pretty much proven.
> >
> > Wow, I'm convinced. Thanks. "pretty much proven" translates
> > "I have faith that its true".
> >
> > >Do you even understand how carbon dating works?
> >
> > Enough to know that there are certainly gross errors (when dating live
> > organisms, etc) without an explanation that are ignored, so not to tip
> > that
> > apple cart. I'm not convinced it is reliable beyond a couple thousand
> > years. You also assume conditions on earth were always the same.
> >
> > I'm not here to debate this point to death, but only state the
> > obvious:
> > a theory is as much a "religion" or "faith" as Christianity.
> >
> > >As it stands, if the Earth were only 6,000 years old, then that would
> > >suggest the Sun is a lot less than the ~ 4 billion years of age it is
> now
> > >- if our Sun were only 6000 years old, we'd all be in a _HEAP_ of
> trouble
> > >(not to mention never having existed)
> >
> > What I don't understand is if you believe in God, why is it so hard to
> > believe, he couldn't make the sun the way it is as we see it now?
> >
> > >Did you happen to miss out on the story of the Human Genome Mapping ?
> > >Here human beings were originally assumed to have millions and
> millions
> > >of important genes making us tick - turns out there are really only
> > >30,000 of them that actually make us function and dictate our design.
> The
> > >proof of evolution is the fact that there are thousands of bits of
> DNA
> > >that are not originally human - they are viral and bacterial in
> originan,
> > >which shows that we have, indeed, evolved over time. If we were
> simply
> > >magically created, as your simplistic version of God is supposed to
> have
> > >done, this DNA would have never had a chance to become a part of the
> > >human genome.
> >
> > Why is there no proof of macro-evolution.. surely something would have
> > turned up by now?
> >
> >
> > >God's a lot smarter than you give Him credit for - He certainly
> wouldn't
> > >have wasted his time in creating a ready-made Earth, along with it's
> > >population and history - both organic and non-.
> >
> > Putting words in God's mouth is disrespecting him.
> >
> > >>Bottom line is, evolution gives folks no reason to believe in God,
> > >>which gives them no reason to accept moral absolutes, which explains
> > >>why each generation is growing worse and worse in behavior.
> > >Oh, come on, now - you're showing here that you are a superficial
> > >Christian - and a hypocritical one at that. Evolution, if _ANYTHING_
> > >gives even _more_ reason to believe in a creator.
> >
> > I'm happy that you believe in God, albiet in a way not even suggested
> > by
> > His Own Words, but not everyone shares your viewpoint.
> >
> > >Heck, go out into your yard and start pulling up some dandylions.
> Take a
> > >good, long look at their design and their growth behaviour. Take a
> look
> > >at what dandylions do right after you mow your lawn. Think a plant
> that
> > >is as amazing as a dandylion (although equally annoying and
> parasitic,
> > >but no less amazing) is a product of pure, random chance ? Or,
> perhaps,
> > >you believe that God, the almighty and most powerful beings, has
> nothing
> > >better to do with His universe, other than to sit around watching
> this
> > >one planet out of trillions, creating new plant species out of
> > boredom.
> >
> > You assume much about God who's explained and demonstrated much about
> > who, what, where, when and why he is. Why not stick to his word and
> > have
> > faith that he created the world in 7 days. Jesus quoted him later in
> > the
> > New Testament and suggested nothing beyond what God The Father
> > originally
> > stated.
> >
> > >>If everyone was a Christian who feared the Lord and knew what the
> Lord
> > >>expected of them.. do you think the world would be a better place..
> or
> > >>worse? I think the answer is fairly obvious.
> > >Anyone who 'fears' God is an idiot and does not understand what God's
> > >role in our lives truly is.
> >
> > I think you need to read your bible again. To fear God is to respect
> > God
> > which plays a part in the first and most important commandment: To
> > love the Lord with all your heart.
> >
> > >Then again, you've already stated that you believe in Hell and Satan
> > -
> >
> > And..
> >
> > >you're the perfect little Christian,
> >
> > Apparently you've missed the many occasions I've stated that
> > Christians are not perfect, only forgiven.
> >
> > >at least insofar as the Church is concerned: You've lapped up the
> dogma and
> > >are easily controlled.
> >
> > Please don't confuse Christianity with Catholism... you're starting to
> > come across as ignorant.
> >
> > >It's a sad, sad thing that God has given you not only a brain, but
> the freedom
> > >to use it to think for yourself and you so obviously choose not to
> use
> > >His gift to it's fullest.
> >
> > If you knew the bible at all you'd also know that mans own Wisdom is
> > foolish.
> >
> > It sounds to me like you've got a very subjective wishy washy version
> > of God. If you can believe in a God, you should also be able to
> > believe He is Perfect, and if you can belive He is Perfect, you should
> > have absolutely no trouble believing that He would leave us with a
> > sure-fire way of KNOWING him personally.
> >
> > That sure-fire way is Christianity.
> >
> > I've already posted a thread showing how Israels rebirth of a nation
> > can be calculated down to the Month and Year. Rather than scoff at
> > it, why not do the homework yourself. Open your heart, put aside your
> > pride and really give it a shot.
> >
> > If you are sincere, you will find an answer beyond any shadow of a
> > doubt, and a faith that won't change.. like say the age of the
> > universe, which just seems to be getting bigger and bigger.
> >
> > Wishy washy theories passing it self off as science, don't cut it, and
> > frankly puts me off to sleep. Wake me up when they find a clear and
> > concise observable, and reproduceable evidence: that my friend is true
> > science.
> >
> > Until then, I'm happy with my faith.. as are you with own faith.
lol and you are dyke
"IndividuAL" <indivi@no-spam> wrote in message
news:JPEOa.86881$x4o.44664@no-spam
> i think john is gay.....he sure seems to want a "man"
>
> don't mind him......
>
>
> "SamIam" <thisis@no-spam> wrote in message
> news:FnEOa.10004$Tx.439453@no-spam
> > I am the voice of YOUR faith ( science ) you are the reprobate that your
> > mother shoulda swallowed. Ignorant idiot. Add something to the
> > conversation *intelligence* other than being a fucking dummy!
> >
> > The fish egg that shoulda been laid to rest on a sandy beach and dried
of
> > all of existence. Despicable little puke.
> >
> >
> >
> > <thevoice@no-spam> wrote in message
> > news:vYzOa.5855$ru2.481772@no-spam
> > > I am the voice of god, BOW DOWN TO ME AND SUCK MY COCK!
> > > "Go USA! Go Israel!" <makemewell75@no-spam> wrote in message
> > > news:10077089.0307080535.72ce7130@no-spam
> > > > >You obviously either have me confused with someone else, or you
never
> > > > >read my reply to you a couple of weeks ago that dealt with the big
> > > > bang
> > > > >(You didn't reply to it, which suggested you are afraid of my own
> > > > >interpretation of God's actions in the multiverse)
> > > >
> > > > You interpretation suggests that God created life gradually over
long
> > > > periods of time involving mutations and much death. That's not
> > > > suggested at all in Genesis. Why not take God at His Word and not
the
> > > > ever-changing theories of the day.
> > > >
> > > > >Just to recap: The Big Bang is already pretty much proven.
> > > >
> > > > Wow, I'm convinced. Thanks. "pretty much proven" translates
> > > > "I have faith that its true".
> > > >
> > > > >Do you even understand how carbon dating works?
> > > >
> > > > Enough to know that there are certainly gross errors (when dating
live
> > > > organisms, etc) without an explanation that are ignored, so not to
tip
> > > > that
> > > > apple cart. I'm not convinced it is reliable beyond a couple
thousand
> > > > years. You also assume conditions on earth were always the same.
> > > >
> > > > I'm not here to debate this point to death, but only state the
> > > > obvious:
> > > > a theory is as much a "religion" or "faith" as Christianity.
> > > >
> > > > >As it stands, if the Earth were only 6,000 years old, then that
would
> > > > >suggest the Sun is a lot less than the ~ 4 billion years of age it
is
> > > > now
> > > > >- if our Sun were only 6000 years old, we'd all be in a _HEAP_ of
> > > > trouble
> > > > >(not to mention never having existed)
> > > >
> > > > What I don't understand is if you believe in God, why is it so hard
to
> > > > believe, he couldn't make the sun the way it is as we see it now?
> > > >
> > > > >Did you happen to miss out on the story of the Human Genome Mapping
?
> > > > >Here human beings were originally assumed to have millions and
> > > > millions
> > > > >of important genes making us tick - turns out there are really only
> > > > >30,000 of them that actually make us function and dictate our
design.
> > > > The
> > > > >proof of evolution is the fact that there are thousands of bits of
> > > > DNA
> > > > >that are not originally human - they are viral and bacterial in
> > > > originan,
> > > > >which shows that we have, indeed, evolved over time. If we were
> > > > simply
> > > > >magically created, as your simplistic version of God is supposed to
> > > > have
> > > > >done, this DNA would have never had a chance to become a part of
the
> > > > >human genome.
> > > >
> > > > Why is there no proof of macro-evolution.. surely something would
have
> > > > turned up by now?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >God's a lot smarter than you give Him credit for - He certainly
> > > > wouldn't
> > > > >have wasted his time in creating a ready-made Earth, along with
it's
> > > > >population and history - both organic and non-.
> > > >
> > > > Putting words in God's mouth is disrespecting him.
> > > >
> > > > >>Bottom line is, evolution gives folks no reason to believe in God,
> > > > >>which gives them no reason to accept moral absolutes, which
explains
> > > > >>why each generation is growing worse and worse in behavior.
> > > > >Oh, come on, now - you're showing here that you are a superficial
> > > > >Christian - and a hypocritical one at that. Evolution, if
_ANYTHING_
> > > > >gives even _more_ reason to believe in a creator.
> > > >
> > > > I'm happy that you believe in God, albiet in a way not even
suggested
> > > > by
> > > > His Own Words, but not everyone shares your viewpoint.
> > > >
> > > > >Heck, go out into your yard and start pulling up some dandylions.
> > > > Take a
> > > > >good, long look at their design and their growth behaviour. Take a
> > > > look
> > > > >at what dandylions do right after you mow your lawn. Think a plant
> > > > that
> > > > >is as amazing as a dandylion (although equally annoying and
> > > > parasitic,
> > > > >but no less amazing) is a product of pure, random chance ? Or,
> > > > perhaps,
> > > > >you believe that God, the almighty and most powerful beings, has
> > > > nothing
> > > > >better to do with His universe, other than to sit around watching
> > > > this
> > > > >one planet out of trillions, creating new plant species out of
> > > > boredom.
> > > >
> > > > You assume much about God who's explained and demonstrated much
about
> > > > who, what, where, when and why he is. Why not stick to his word and
> > > > have
> > > > faith that he created the world in 7 days. Jesus quoted him later
in
> > > > the
> > > > New Testament and suggested nothing beyond what God The Father
> > > > originally
> > > > stated.
> > > >
> > > > >>If everyone was a Christian who feared the Lord and knew what the
> > > > Lord
> > > > >>expected of them.. do you think the world would be a better
place..
> > > > or
> > > > >>worse? I think the answer is fairly obvious.
> > > > >Anyone who 'fe