OTT MOTORCYCLES 29 RE LEGISLATION ALERT ONTARIO BILL 109
From: aa728@no-spam (Blair Dean)
Subject: Re: LEGISLATION ALERT!!!:: Ontario Bill 109
Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2003 15:51:17 -0400


All that and I forgot to urge you to contact your MPP and putt some presure on him/her to vote against this bill.

Blair Dean wrote:
> Bill 109, text below, aimed directly at motorcyclists passed 1st reading > in the Legislative Assembly of Ontario on June 18, 2003. This bill would > require a motorcyclist and/or passanger surrender their helmet(s) for > inspection upon the demand of a police officer.
> > This is what the Honourable Mr Rick Bartolucci, MPP Sudbury, had to say > when he introduced the bill: "The police of the province of Ontario have > asked me to introduce this bill. It amends the Highway Traffic Act to > require motorcyclists to surrender their helmets for police inspection > on request. This will save police forces across Ontario numerous hours > that they have to wait in the courts processing these types of violations."
> > What scares me about this bill is the potential for abuse that it > creates. Imagine if you will, an event after this bill gains royal > assent, let's call it Blair's International Motorcycle Rodeo. Hey, it > could happen. :) Once you have that, can you imagine the police presence > that would be drwn to such an event? Now have the police pulling over > all the attendees for helmet inspection. That would put a name on every > face that they already take pictures of. Don't think it would happen? > Anyone in Ottawa remember that OPP officer that the city brought in just > to do sound checks on our bikes a few years back?? Thisa legislation > will be abused and we will get harrassed.
> > A couple of other things I would like to know.
> > What training do police officers in Ontario get to conduct a valid > helmet inspection? Are they going to get any instruction on what they > are looking at?
> > What does the phrase "reasonable inspection" mean?
> > ========================================================================
> Bill 109 2003
> > An Act to amend the > Highway Traffic Act > with respect to > motorcycle helmets > > Her Majesty, by and with the advice and consent of the Legislative > Assembly of the Province of Ontario, enacts as follows:
> > 1. Section 104 of the Highway Traffic Act, as amended by the Statutes > of Ontario, 1993, chapter 18, section 1, is amended by adding the > following subsection:
> > Surrender of helmet for inspection > > (2.3) Every rider on or operator of a motorcycle shall, upon the demand > of a police officer, surrender his or her helmet for reasonable inspection.
> > Commencement > > 2. This Act comes into force on the day it receives Royal Assent.
> > Short title > > 3. The short title of this Act is the Highway Traffic Amendment Act > (Motorcycle Helmets), 2003.
> > ______________
> > EXPLANATORY NOTE > > The Bill amends the Highway Traffic Act to require motorcyclists to > surrender their helmets for police inspection on request.
> ========================================================================
> > > Legislative Assembly of Ontario web site: > http://gateway.ontla.on.ca/index.htm > > Bill 109 Web page: > http://gateway.ontla.on.ca/documents/Bills/37_Parliament/Session4/b109_e.htm > > > The debate in the Assembly June 18, 2003: > http://gateway.ontla.on.ca/hansard/house_debates/37_parl/Session4/L028.htm >
-- Blair Dean Ottawa, Ontario 1999 Harley-Davidson XL1200C 2CEWL

From: "Wayne Jones" (wayne.jones.nospam@no-spam)
Subject: Re: LEGISLATION ALERT!!!:: Ontario Bill 109
Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2003 01:50:59 GMT

What would they be checking for?
Wayne "Blair Dean" <aa728@no-spam> wrote in message news:3F01E243.1030408@no-spam > Bill 109, text below, aimed directly at motorcyclists passed 1st reading > in the Legislative Assembly of Ontario on June 18, 2003. This bill would > require a motorcyclist and/or passanger surrender their helmet(s) for > inspection upon the demand of a police officer.
>
> This is what the Honourable Mr Rick Bartolucci, MPP Sudbury, had to say > when he introduced the bill: "The police of the province of Ontario have > asked me to introduce this bill. It amends the Highway Traffic Act to > require motorcyclists to surrender their helmets for police inspection > on request. This will save police forces across Ontario numerous hours > that they have to wait in the courts processing these types of violations."
>
> What scares me about this bill is the potential for abuse that it > creates. Imagine if you will, an event after this bill gains royal > assent, let's call it Blair's International Motorcycle Rodeo. Hey, it > could happen. :) Once you have that, can you imagine the police presence > that would be drwn to such an event? Now have the police pulling over > all the attendees for helmet inspection. That would put a name on every > face that they already take pictures of. Don't think it would happen?
> Anyone in Ottawa remember that OPP officer that the city brought in just > to do sound checks on our bikes a few years back?? Thisa legislation > will be abused and we will get harrassed.
>
> A couple of other things I would like to know.
>
> What training do police officers in Ontario get to conduct a valid > helmet inspection? Are they going to get any instruction on what they > are looking at?
>
> What does the phrase "reasonable inspection" mean?
>
> ========================================================================
> Bill 109 2003
>
> An Act to amend the > Highway Traffic Act > with respect to > motorcycle helmets >
> Her Majesty, by and with the advice and consent of the Legislative > Assembly of the Province of Ontario, enacts as follows:
>
> 1. Section 104 of the Highway Traffic Act, as amended by the Statutes > of Ontario, 1993, chapter 18, section 1, is amended by adding the > following subsection:
>
> Surrender of helmet for inspection >
> (2.3) Every rider on or operator of a motorcycle shall, upon the demand > of a police officer, surrender his or her helmet for reasonable inspection.
>
> Commencement >
> 2. This Act comes into force on the day it receives Royal Assent.
>
> Short title >
> 3. The short title of this Act is the Highway Traffic Amendment Act > (Motorcycle Helmets), 2003.
>
> ______________
>
> EXPLANATORY NOTE >
> The Bill amends the Highway Traffic Act to require motorcyclists to > surrender their helmets for police inspection on request.
> ========================================================================
>
>
> Legislative Assembly of Ontario web site:
> http://gateway.ontla.on.ca/index.htm >
> Bill 109 Web page:
>
http://gateway.ontla.on.ca/documents/Bills/37_Parliament/Session4/b109_e.htm >
> The debate in the Assembly June 18, 2003:
> http://gateway.ontla.on.ca/hansard/house_debates/37_parl/Session4/L028.htm >
> --
> Blair Dean > Ottawa, Ontario > 1999 Harley-Davidson XL1200C 2CEWL >


From: birdonawire_59@no-spam (Crow)
Subject: Re: LEGISLATION ALERT!!!:: Ontario Bill 109
Date: 1 Jul 2003 18:56:18 -0700

No offence... (pun intended) but this one's been done to death. Search threads from last November for the outcome.

and good luck with the MPP thing,

Crow