PA POLITICS 35 RE IT DIDN T TAKE SANTORUM LONG
From: "D.F. Manno" (dommanno@no-spam)
Subject: Re: It didn't take Santorum long...
Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2003 18:39:43 -0400


In article <look-5E6812.11462207072003@no-spam>,
The Expatriate <look@no-spam> wrote:

> This isn't a high school debate class.

No, it's Usenet, which is debate class on steroids.

> I don't have to prove an axiom.
It's not axiomatic that incest between consenting adults should be illegal.

> Few people these days deny the right of gay couples the right to sleep > with whom they please
Until the Supreme Court ruled in Lawrence v. Texas, 13 states _did_ deny gays the right to sleep with whom they please. That was the whole point of the case, remember?

> but I don't notice a big rush to defend > incestuous couples. Society realizes it's taboo
taboo 1. A ban or an inhibition resulting from social custom or emotional aversion.

So you're saying it's wrong because people say it's wrong. You're arguing in circles.

> and no one, with the > exception of you, is willing to waste time and energy trying to prove > incest is just another "lifestyle choice."

I'm not trying to prove anything. I'm just trying to make you defend your opinion, something you seem unable or unwilling to do.
-- D.F. Manno dommanno@no-spam "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." (Benjamin Franklin)


Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2003 21:58:32 -0400
From: Mischa Gelman (mgelman@no-spam)
Subject: Re: It didn't take Santorum long...

"D.F. Manno" wrote:

> I don't believe _anything_ the anti-abortion nuts have to say on the subject.
> They lie.

Well, there you go, an exemplary view of the open-minded, even-handed pro-choice
movement. As long as ideologues discount everything from the other side, they never have to bother opening their minds and considering that they might be wrong.


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