"Ed Conrad" <edconrad@no-spam> wrote in message
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>
> The evolution of ma.
> 'Tis the greatest conspiracy against truth in the history of science.
If no one has ever seen this guy in other newsgroups - let me just say he is
a crank of the first order. He regularly trolls Talk.origins with his
fascinating (loony) take on the evolution of life on this planet. Go to his
website if you want a good laugh be aware that he is out looking for hits on
his site and has probably trolled every other newsgroup.
On Fri, 27 Jun 2003 10:53:39 -0700, Dave Thompson wrote:
>"Ed Conrad" <edconrad@no-spam> wrote in message
>news:3efc10bf.44850555@no-spam
>>
>> The evolution of ma.
>> 'Tis the greatest conspiracy against truth in the history of science.
>
>If no one has ever seen this guy in other newsgroups - let me just say he is
>a crank of the first order. He regularly trolls Talk.origins with his
>fascinating (loony) take on the evolution of life on this planet. Go to his
>website if you want a good laugh be aware that he is out looking for hits on
>his site and has probably trolled every other newsgroup.
>
>
Ah, don't take it so serious. Once in a while you need nonsense like his just
to lighten the load.
:-)
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"Wolf Kirchmeir" <wwolfkir@no-spam> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 27 Jun 2003 10:53:39 -0700, Dave Thompson wrote:
>
> >"Ed Conrad" <edconrad@no-spam> wrote in message
> >news:3efc10bf.44850555@no-spam
> >>
> >> The evolution of ma.
> >> 'Tis the greatest conspiracy against truth in the history of science.
> >
> >If no one has ever seen this guy in other newsgroups - let me just say he
is
> >a crank of the first order. He regularly trolls Talk.origins with his
> >fascinating (loony) take on the evolution of life on this planet. Go to
his
> >website if you want a good laugh be aware that he is out looking for hits
on
> >his site and has probably trolled every other newsgroup.
> >
> >
>
> Ah, don't take it so serious. Once in a while you need nonsense like his
just
> to lighten the load.
>
True, but you do need to know that it's nonsense.
edconrad@no-spam (Ed Conrad) wrote in message news:<3efc10bf.44850555@no-spam>...
> The evolution of ma.
> 'Tis the greatest conspiracy against truth in the history of science.
>
> ================================================
>
> > ~~ MAN AS OLD AS COAL ~~
> > (Evolution in Trouble in the Wake of Startling New Evidence)
>
> ================================================
Well, of course, there's nothing "new" about this "evidence." You've
been posting it for years.
Here's just one article that refutes it:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=35fa3772.0306111624.39df8505%40posting.google.com&output=gplain
This article was written by me and, Ed, I'm the LEAST qualified to
refute you from the scientific standpoint.
Now, Ed, here's the most recent challenge from which you have been
running:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=35fa3772.0306250135.409c9c56%40posting.google.com&output=gplain
I also sweetened the pot and offered to pay full costs of a polygraph
and, if any of the experts agree that any of your specimens are
genuine - even ONE of them - I said I'd get you that special on Fox.
If you were really that confident in your claims, you'd jump at this
chance.
So why are you running from it?
< snip >
"Wolf Kirchmeir" <wwolfkir@no-spam> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 27 Jun 2003 10:53:39 -0700, Dave Thompson wrote:
>
> >"Ed Conrad" <edconrad@no-spam> wrote in message
> >news:3efc10bf.44850555@no-spam
> >>
> >> The evolution of ma.
> >> 'Tis the greatest conspiracy against truth in the history of science.
> >
> >If no one has ever seen this guy in other newsgroups - let me just say he
is
> >a crank of the first order. He regularly trolls Talk.origins with his
> >fascinating (loony) take on the evolution of life on this planet. Go to
his
> >website if you want a good laugh be aware that he is out looking for hits
on
> >his site and has probably trolled every other newsgroup.
> >
> >
>
> Ah, don't take it so serious. Once in a while you need nonsense like his
just
> to lighten the load.
As an example of his lunacy he exhibits a calcified rock in an old cowboy
boot as evidence that fossils can form in a few years.
"Dave Thompson" <dav13795@no-spam> wrote in message
> As an example of his lunacy he exhibits a calcified rock in an old cowboy
> boot as evidence that fossils can form in a few years.
I got sucked into a book at Powell's showing a bullet hole in the fossilized
skull of HomoSomethingorothericus with all sorts of forensic mumbo jumbo and
whatnot. Really fascinated me until I realized the whole thing was a subtle
attack on evolution.
Man descended from chupacabras, period.
-c
There is no Dana, only Zule.
On Tue, 1 Jul 2003 10:35:49 -0700, "Dave Thompson"
<dav13795@no-spam> wrote:
>When I was a kid I eagerly read all the Von Danaken(Sp.) books about finding
>skulls with bullet holes and hundred thousand year old batteries
The battery was one of the few genuine items von Daniken ever
described. I was wondering lately if it had been looted from Baghdad
Museum (it was prominently displayed, as the only exhibit most
Westerners had heard of)
.
Von Daniken is opening a theme park in Switzerland
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,6903,915242,00.html
Left-Right Coalition Rises to Oppose USA Patriot Act Provisions
Thu Mar 24,11:20 AM ET
Abid Aslam, OneWorld US
WASHINGTON, D.C., Mar 24 (OneWorld) - A novel coalition of conservatives
and liberals normally at each other's throats over the nature of
government and free speech have made common cause to oppose key parts of
the USA Patriot Act anti-terrorism law.
The American Civil Liberties Union (news - web sites) (ACLU), long
vilified by conservatives, has joined forces with right-wing groups the
American Conservative Union, Americans for Tax Reform, and the Free
Congress Foundation to spearhead the ''Patriots to Restore Checks and
Balances'' coalition.
The Patriot Act's supporters have said it has kept America safe since 2001
but opponents have said the law is intrusive and threatens to let the
government spy on innocent Americans. The new coalition will lobby
Congress to roll back provisions allowing law enforcement agents to look
at library users' records and to conduct unannounced searches of homes and
private offices.
''Checks and balances are absolutely essential, even and especially during
times of threat,'' said coalition leader Bob Barr, a former Republican
Congressman from Georgia who voted for the law in 2001. ''Our message is
universal. Liberty is not divisible, even in the face of terrorism, and we
must not allow any part of it to be sacrificed in our efforts to defeat
acts of terrorism.''
Administration and Justice Department (news - web sites) officials have
said that the law contains strong civil liberties safeguards and that no
civil liberties complaints have been filed against the legislation itself.
Rather, they said, many of the complaints offered by civil libertarians
have nothing to do with the law's provisions.
The coalition came together to prevent politicians from branding Patriot
Act opponents un-American or suggesting they are willing to help
terrorists, as happened when the law first was debated, coalition members
said at a news conference.
''We don't want this argument to be obscured by those who would suggest
that anyone who is for more and more government power is somehow on the
side of the right, and those who are against it or are skeptical of such
grants are on the side of the wrong,'' said David Keene of the American
Conservative Union. ''This is an important question for all Americans on
the left, the right, or in the middle.''
Key Patriot Act provisions are scheduled to expire on Dec. 31. The Senate
and House Judiciary committees plan to open hearings in the next month on
whether they should be renewed.
The coalition focused on three of the law's most controversial provisions,
asking that the wording of each be clarified to limit its scope to
fighting terrorists and to prevent law enforcement agencies from using the
law to silence dissent or go on fishing expeditions.
It urged that a provision giving agencies access to library, medical, and
gun purchase records be modified to require law enforcement officials to
present evidence to a federal judge supporting a link with suspected
It sought similar limits on a provision allowing so-called ''sneak and
peek'' searches of homes, businesses, and personal property without
property owners' or residents' knowledge and with warrants delivered
afterwards.
And it asked that the language of a provision allowing surveillance of
protests be rewritten to require a definite connection with suspected
terrorism.
''The Patriot Act went too far, too fast, and now is the time to determine
what freedoms have been unnecessarily lost in the name of national
security,'' said the ACLU's Laura Murphy. ''Now is the time for Congress
to restore those freedoms.''
Short for the ''Uniting and Strengthening America by Providing Appropriate
Tools Required to Intercept and Obstruct Terrorism Act of 2001,'' the USA
Patriot Act originally passed by 357-66 in the House of Representatives
and 98-1 in the Senate.
President George W. Bush (news - web sites)'s administration proposed the
law, shepherded it through Congress, and enacted it in the immediate
aftermath of the Sep. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks and the U.S. Senate's
evacuation because of anthrax.
The measure passed with neither chamber issuing the usual reviews of
proposed legislation. ''As a result, it lacks background legislative
history that often retrospectively provides necessary statutory
interpretation,'' according to a detailed analysis of the law prepared by
the Washington, D.C.-based Electronic Privacy Information Center.
Bush and Attorney General Alberto Gonzales, whose powers the law has
greatly expanded, have called for the act's renewal. Gonzales has
suggested that provisions expanding the government's surveillance and
prosecutorial powers against suspected terrorists, their associates, and
financiers should be strengthened.
''Debate about government exercise of powers that might infringe upon
privacy or civil liberties, I think that's an appropriate debate,''
Gonzales told a recent meeting of the National Association of Counties.
''But it's got to be a real debate, one based on facts. And I've yet to
hear a strong argument as to why the Patriot Act should not be
reauthorized.''
The coalition faces a difficult fight in making changes to the law, Barr
told reporters. The ACLU's Murphy, however, said grassroots opposition to
the law is growing.
Some 375 local and state governments representing more than 56 million
Americans have passed resolutions opposing the law or some of its
provisions, the ACLU said.
While many of these resolutions have no practical effect, proponents have
said the measures serve to notify federal policymakers and agencies of
public disapproval. Most of the resolutions called upon Congress to bring
the Patriot Act back in line with the Constitution.
Foreign governments also have looked askance at the law, which gave the
government new authority to collect information not only about U.S.
citizens but also about visitors to the United States.
Last year, Latin American countries objected to sending census data and
voter records to U.S. law enforcement agencies and Canadian officials
warned that complying with the Patriot Act would violate Canadian law.
Other groups in the new coalition include the American Policy Center,
Citizens' Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms, the Second
Amendment Foundation, and the Association of American Physicians and
Surgeons.
On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 17:33:27 -0800, Bob Tiernan
<zulu.pacifier.com@no-spam> wrote:
>
>Left-Right Coalition Rises to Oppose USA Patriot Act Provisions
>
>Thu Mar 24,11:20 AM ET
>
>Abid Aslam, OneWorld US
>
>WASHINGTON, D.C., Mar 24 (OneWorld) - A novel coalition of conservatives
>and liberals normally at each other's throats over the nature of
>government and free speech have made common cause to oppose key parts of
>the USA Patriot Act anti-terrorism law.
>
>The American Civil Liberties Union (news - web sites) (ACLU), long
>vilified by conservatives, has joined forces with right-wing groups the
>American Conservative Union, Americans for Tax Reform, and the Free
>Congress Foundation to spearhead the ''Patriots to Restore Checks and
>Balances'' coalition....
This is good news!
The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
That's an Arab aphorism, but it seems to be on point here.
Thanks!
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 17:58:10 -0800
Don Homuth wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 17:33:27 -0800, Bob Tiernan
> <zulu.pacifier.com@no-spam> wrote:
>
>
>>Left-Right Coalition Rises to Oppose USA Patriot Act Provisions
>>
>>Thu Mar 24,11:20 AM ET
>>
>>Abid Aslam, OneWorld US
>>
>>WASHINGTON, D.C., Mar 24 (OneWorld) - A novel coalition of conservatives
>>and liberals normally at each other's throats over the nature of
>>government and free speech have made common cause to oppose key parts of
>>the USA Patriot Act anti-terrorism law.
>>
>>The American Civil Liberties Union (news - web sites) (ACLU), long
>>vilified by conservatives, has joined forces with right-wing groups the
>>American Conservative Union, Americans for Tax Reform, and the Free
>>Congress Foundation to spearhead the ''Patriots to Restore Checks and
>>Balances'' coalition....
>
>
> This is good news!
>
> The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
>
> That's an Arab aphorism, but it seems to be on point here.
>
> Thanks!
Some of never will believe ANYTHING that communist bunch as to say. Ever
trace their roots?
Don Homuth wrote:
> The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
>
> That's an Arab aphorism
But very selectively applied by them, and therefore
meaningless.
Bob T
In article <0dCdnQUu68S67d7fRVn-vw@no-spam>,
Scratch <Little-time@no-spam> wrote:
> Don Homuth wrote:
> > On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 17:33:27 -0800, Bob Tiernan
> > <zulu.pacifier.com@no-spam> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Left-Right Coalition Rises to Oppose USA Patriot Act Provisions
> >>
> >>Thu Mar 24,11:20 AM ET
> >>
> >>Abid Aslam, OneWorld US
> >>
> >>WASHINGTON, D.C., Mar 24 (OneWorld) - A novel coalition of conservatives
> >>and liberals normally at each other's throats over the nature of
> >>government and free speech have made common cause to oppose key parts of
> >>the USA Patriot Act anti-terrorism law.
> >>
> >>The American Civil Liberties Union (news - web sites) (ACLU), long
> >>vilified by conservatives, has joined forces with right-wing groups the
> >>American Conservative Union, Americans for Tax Reform, and the Free
> >>Congress Foundation to spearhead the ''Patriots to Restore Checks and
> >>Balances'' coalition....
> >
> >
> > This is good news!
> >
> > The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
> >
> > That's an Arab aphorism, but it seems to be on point here.
> >
> > Thanks!
>
>
> Some of never will believe ANYTHING that communist bunch as to say. Ever
> trace their roots?
"commies?" I thought the new villians were 'Islamo-fascists.'
I wonder what the bOregonian's resident wing nut David Winehard will
make of it?
--
"I toke over the live!"
hobgoblin24@no-spam
On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 21:31:48 -0800, Bob Tiernan
<zulu.pacifier.com@no-spam> wrote:
>Don Homuth wrote:
>
>> The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
>>
>> That's an Arab aphorism
>
>But very selectively applied by them, and therefore
>meaningless.
Hey, BT -- it's still Good News.
Muttering darkly about how it's maybe not all That good to a
doctrinaire Libertoonian doesn't lessen that a bit.
Cheer up, guy. It's Friday!
Don Homuth <dhomuth1@no-spam> wrote:
>On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 21:31:48 -0800, Bob Tiernan
><zulu.pacifier.com@no-spam> wrote:
>
>>Don Homuth wrote:
>>
>>> The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
>>>
>>> That's an Arab aphorism
>>
>>But very selectively applied by them, and therefore
>>meaningless.
>
>Hey, BT -- it's still Good News.
>
>Muttering darkly about how it's maybe not all That good to a
>doctrinaire Libertoonian doesn't lessen that a bit.
>
>Cheer up, guy. It's Friday!
It's Good Friday, and there is death in the air.
On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 12:47:21 -0800, ߀µµ€++ £. <ace5646@no-spam>
wrote:
>Don Homuth <dhomuth1@no-spam> wrote:
>>Cheer up, guy. It's Friday!
>
>It's Good Friday, and there is death in the air.
Always has been, on Good Friday.
Wait till the weekend's over, if it's a problem.