PDX GENERAL 45 RE ON BELMONT BICYCLISTS
From: "John Lienhart" (John@no-spam)
Subject: Re: On Belmont Bicyclists
Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 14:53:09 GMT


"gatt" <gatt@no-spam> wrote in message news:23pOa.20182$C43.1807@no-spam >
> "Bill Shatzer" <bshatzer@no-spam> wrote in message >
> > But still, bicycle lanes are a good idea. And well worth spending > > the 1% or so of highway dollars which we spend on such things.
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> What do you think about requiring registration fees for commuter-quality > bikes? (Ie, not the little pink one with the white tires that the little > girl is riding out in front of my house, or the BMX bike that the little > dude down the street rides out in the field?)
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> It seems like a modest registration would help cyclists justify the expense > of additional bike lanes, and it would prevent people from suggesting that > bike lanes are subsidized by drivers.
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Would you actually want a registration and the costs that it would entail or maybe just a fee or tax or whatever on bicycle sales, which would be earmarked toward bicycle paths, etc. The question I am asking is if the costs of the registration bureaucracy outweigh the benefits it could provide? Certainly I wouldn't mind spending another $10-$20 bucks on a new bike, but I'd hate to keep paying registration fees as it sits in the garage while I sit on the couch.


From: "Baxter" (lbax01.spaminator@no-spam)
Subject: Re: On Belmont Bicyclists
Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 22:10:53 -0700

Actually, they didn't. They just didn't want to second-guess the people on the scene. Pretty obvious to all except you right-wingnuts that the situation was poorly handled.

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"sinistersteve" <sinistersteve@no-spam> wrote in message news:M5LOa.12322$Ph3.1130@no-spam > I'm not justifying the police shooting....the Grand Jury did that for me.
In > fact, I don't like the idea of police using deadly force, but sometimes the > have to.
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> "Baxter" <lbax01.spaminator@no-spam> wrote in message > news:vgmpev9bb01532@no-spam > > In this case, and many like it, we're not talking about criminals pursuing > > their occupation. But YOU are definitely talking about a Police State > when > > you justify a person's death because she "wasn't cooperating with the > > police".
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> > "sinistersteve" <sinistersteve@no-spam> wrote in message > > news:_GIOa.9321$wk6.2271@no-spam > > > Occupational hazard of being employed as a criminal. All jobs have > certain > > > hazards that can harm you.
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> > > "Baxter" <lbax01.spaminator@no-spam> wrote in message > > > news:vgj0ca45bipafd@no-spam > > > > And that's more important to you than life?
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> > > > "sinistersteve" <sinistersteve@no-spam> wrote in > message > > > > news:4n8Oa.23347$Ey6.11274@no-spam > > > > > She sure as hell wasn't cooperating with the police.
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> > > > > "Baxter" <lbax01.spaminator@no-spam> wrote in message > > > > > news:vgb8cuc681jcb9@no-spam > > > > > > --
> > > > > > Let's see - the cop was half-way into the car on the driver's side > > and > > > > his > > > > > > bullet entered James near the hip and traveled up her abdomen --
> and > > > > > you're > > > > > > trying to tell me that she was in the driver's seat driving off.
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From: "sinistersteve" (sinistersteve@no-spam)
Subject: Re: On Belmont Bicyclists
Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2003 18:33:08 GMT

Another thing that is obvious is the fact that the police chief is recommending a suspension to the officer solely on the principle that the blacks will burn down their neighborhoods if they get his head on a silver platter.

"Baxter" <lbax01.spaminator@no-spam> wrote in message news:vgn8uvip2p7a1e@no-spam > Actually, they didn't. They just didn't want to second-guess the people on > the scene. Pretty obvious to all except you right-wingnuts that the > situation was poorly handled.