PHL MEDIA 12 RE IT DIDN T TAKE SANTORUM LONG
From: "D.F. Manno" (dommanno@no-spam)
Subject: Re: It didn't take Santorum long...
Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2003 17:15:32 -0400


In article <look-BBCEFF.16145906072003@no-spam>,
The Expatriate <look@no-spam> wrote:

> "D.F. Manno" <dommanno@no-spam> wrote:
> > > The Expatriate <look@no-spam> wrote:
> > > > > Those responsible for overturning the sodomy laws are opening the door > > > to legalized incest.
> > > > Let's say for argument's sake that that happens. As long as the > > participants are consenting adults, what's the problem?
> > Do you really want me to explain "the problem" with a society that > allows marriage between siblings, or parent and child?

Yes, I do. That's why I asked. I want to see if you have an argument that doesn't boil down to "God says it's wrong."

> Too bad your question wasn't published in a forum where a significant > number of people will actually read it. It shows your side's true > colors, and would have done much to silence this mindless, knee-jerk > criticism of Santorum.

I said "for argument's sake." That doesn't mean I endorse the idea.
-- D.F. Manno dommanno@no-spam "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." (Benjamin Franklin)


From: "D.F. Manno" (dommanno@no-spam)
Subject: Re: It didn't take Santorum long...
Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2003 18:39:43 -0400

In article <look-5E6812.11462207072003@no-spam>,
The Expatriate <look@no-spam> wrote:

> This isn't a high school debate class.

No, it's Usenet, which is debate class on steroids.

> I don't have to prove an axiom.
It's not axiomatic that incest between consenting adults should be illegal.

> Few people these days deny the right of gay couples the right to sleep > with whom they please
Until the Supreme Court ruled in Lawrence v. Texas, 13 states _did_ deny gays the right to sleep with whom they please. That was the whole point of the case, remember?

> but I don't notice a big rush to defend > incestuous couples. Society realizes it's taboo
taboo 1. A ban or an inhibition resulting from social custom or emotional aversion.

So you're saying it's wrong because people say it's wrong. You're arguing in circles.

> and no one, with the > exception of you, is willing to waste time and energy trying to prove > incest is just another "lifestyle choice."

I'm not trying to prove anything. I'm just trying to make you defend your opinion, something you seem unable or unwilling to do.
-- D.F. Manno dommanno@no-spam "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." (Benjamin Franklin)