In article <slrn3vsbgr763.81te.kybyrd@no-spam>, kybyrd@no-spam
(Karen Y Byrd) writes:
>On 10 Jul 2003 16:07:14 GMT, John H. Fisher <taxservice@no-spam>
>wrote:
>
>>Somewhat presumptious of you, Karen!!! Are you a gay veteran??
>>Have you ever served in the military?? What experience have you
>>to make such a pronouncement and why do you presume to characterize
>>me as being unpatriotic for an assessment I have made from personal
>>experience in the military??? You offend too easily (IMVHO)!!=:) I've
>>had gay friends who did die as a result of war. Others were greatly
>>impaired. I had known of unions, as far back as the '50's (in the military)
>>where there was a bonding and a commitment (albeit few) between officers
>>and enlisted personnel alike. Some were career military and I expect they
>>survived in spite of the rules that were in place. That's over 50 years ago
>
>>and I've lost track of most of them!!=(:
>
>If you aware of all these facts, and have a personal history
>with this, why is there still so much, unsubstantiated,
>belief that the sky will fall if we simply let gay people
>be gay and still serve ?
Belief is a funny thing. Some still believe in Santa, the
tooth fairy, and that Bush was elected by the majority of
the people in this country!!!=(: The sky may not fall, for
you, but there are those who believe they will go to hell if
they champion gay rights (or any human rights not
enveloped in their belief systems!!! SAD = TRUE!!!=(:
>As far as gay marriage is concerned, all the gay couples
>I know are about as ordinary as can be except for one thing.
>In fact these people can be absolutely boring in their
>styles of living and approaches to life. That makes
>them very similar to all the straight people I know
>who are officially married.
That's more common, these days, than it was until about 1980.
The outbreak of AIDS drew individuals closer together and fear
had much to do with strengthening the arguments for a single
partner. I certainly wouldn't want to speak for the majority but,
as a bartender in the first (primarily black) gay bar, my experience
was that most had a different partner at every turn. I was also
instrumental in the formation of the city's first bar for gay women.
There was more fidelity amongst the gals than the boys but, even
there, a switch in partners was more common than most gay
people might care to admit.
>Unless some kind of overwhelming Christian jihad in this
>country prevents it, and we get this gay marriage ban
>through a constitutional amendment, I could see
>legal gay marriage happening in my lifetime.
>
If that's what you want, Karen, take a trip across the border
into Canada!!=) In the meantime, the best you have is to
constantly barrage your congress critters, and other politicos,
to champion the cause!!!=:)
"Jack" - John H. Fisher - TaxService@no-spam
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